Owner of Telegram has been arrested recently

[bestof2005]

It's all over the news, his names Pavel Durov

Just came back here to tell y'all to be careful if you use telegram who knows what the feds will do

[Oshosondy]

It is true that Telegram owner has been arrested https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-allegedly-arrested-in-france

According to the reports, Durov was arrested when his plane landed at the Bourget airport outside Paris. He allegedly faces charges of terrorism, trafficking, conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and more.

France has been the country people should not travel to. You can see how they seize Nigeria presidential plane and two other planes or so belonging to Nigeria recently. Also now arrested Telegram CEO.

[Cantsay]

I just read an article and it said that he was arrested for not censoring contents on his apps - does that relates to speech or illegal dealings?


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Just came back here to tell y'all to be careful if you use telegram who knows what the feds will do

People like us who just use telegram to join channels to get information  won’t be too bothered about news like this.  

[FinneysTrueVision]

Even when he bends the knee for western governments and refuses to co-operate with the Russian government they still come after him. This is like the arrests of the Samourai and Tornado Cash developers. Durov is obviously not a terrorist or a money launderer. If France didn’t like the content that is on Telegram they could have just blocked the service in their country, but trying to impose censorship on a worldwide platform is real authoritarian behavior.

[logfiles]

Goes to show you who the real devils in this world are. I mean the actual terrorists. Maybe one day, at least half of the human race will wake up and realize that all they have been telling us were mostly lies to maintain the current world order.

People like us who just use telegram to join channels to get information  won’t be too bothered about news like this. 

Sure but you should be worried about your privacy though.

[nelson4lov]

Pavel is one of the last few persons still around that are able to fight censorship from government and I think this news is particularly bullish for Crypto. Everyone is rushing to open a short forgetting that historically, it is bullish for a dev to be arrested simply because they don't bend the knee. Well, this isn't the first time that TON has been in a legal issue with the government. It happened initially with its ICO and now with the CEO for censorship reasons.

We are slowly running out of platforms that are truly censorship free. What a time to be alive.

[Orpichukwu]

People like us who just use telegram to join channels to get information  won’t be too bothered about news like this. 

Sure but you should be worried about your privacy though.

Privacy when it comes to personal data, like our mobile number and the information we might have shared with this miniapp that exists on Telegram. Recently, I  deleted my main account, which I use my local number to open since I began to hunt for airdrops.
 
I use a foreign number I bought online only for Telegram and other online apps that need mobile number verification. That way, I can reduce the level to which I expose my personal number.

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He has been arrested in France. He was apprehended at Le Bourget airport in the outskirts of Paris after arriving via private jet. While the exact reasons for his arrest remain unclear, there are speculations that it might be related to the app’s possible use in money laundering, drug trafficking, or sharing of child sex abuse content. Telegram, with its focus on privacy and end-to-end encryption, has gained popularity worldwide, but it has also faced controversies due to its use by various groups and movements. As always, staying informed and cautious is essential when using any online platform.

[Agbe]

It is true that Telegram owner has been arrested https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-allegedly-arrested-in-france

According to the reports, Durov was arrested when his plane landed at the Bourget airport outside Paris. He allegedly faces charges of terrorism, trafficking, conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and more.

France has been the country people should not travel to. You can see how they seize Nigeria presidential plane and two other planes or so belonging to Nigeria recently. Also now arrested Telegram CEO.

Wow!!! The charges are numerous and I think this will not affect the operation of the social media.. because there are many businesses that are going on in that social media handle. Casinos are there and AirDrops and other businesses are going on there. And I checked the link you provided and it is not a pleasant news. Telegram from the onset was a scammers den where scammers hide and do their unthinkable activities. So if that handle is shut down, it won't be better. Though they will look for another platforms to start their operations.

[Zaguru12]

Wow!!! The charges are numerous and I think this will not affect the operation of the social media.. because they many businesses that are going in that social media handle. Casinos are there and AirDrops and other businesses are going there. I checked the link you provided and it is not a pleasant news. Telegram from the onset was a scammers den where scammers hide and do their unthinkable activities. So if that handle has been shut down, it will be better. Though they will look for another platforms to start their operations.

Not trying to defend Durov here but by saying that the media platforms is a scammers den and should be shutdown simply means that the entire social media platforms needs to be shutdown because everyone of them is been used by the scammers to carry out there scams. Having to run a non censorship platform like telegram will only get you this kind of attention just like cryptocurrency has been charged long ago.

My only problem here is Durov himself was said to be aware that he is persona non grata to the France nation and has been away from Europe itself for a long term and all of a sudden goes there, you can’t simply ignore or fight the government like that. This charges are many and nobody knows what next, but my belief is he would secretly be requested to release some data to the government

[coin-investor]

Even when he bends the knee for western governments and refuses to co-operate with the Russian government they still come after him. This is like the arrests of the Samourai and Tornado Cash developers. Durov is obviously not a terrorist or a money launderer. If France didn’t like the content that is on Telegram they could have just blocked the service in their country, but trying to impose censorship on a worldwide platform is real authoritarian behavior.

That's the right thing to do, do they have jurisdiction over Durov on this matter they are acting like an international police they should have an official charge on this before they arrest him.

If they don't want Telegram in their country, they should block access; other countries welcome its use. We need more updates on this case. This is terrible timing. Just when Dogs is getting listed on top exchanges, Ton dropped 15% because of this news.

Durov's arrest is bad for societies that embrace freedom and liberty and it may harm other platforms with integration with Telegram.

[Hispo]

Well, this is something I was not ready to read at all ...
How come they can accuse him of terrorism and money laundering if he has stakes in the second most popular messaging application on the planet? Something is fishy here.
Perhaps some of you are right and this has more to do with Telegram being one of the last standing keeps of freedom there is in the clear internet,.hopefully not, otherwise this could be the beginning of the end of Telegram how we know it and obviously this is going to negatively affect the future of Ton and the integrations it was supposed to have with the Application  

Funny thing, this news just breaks when I was about to buy some TON last night, I sure did miss a bullet here, for now. 

[yahoo62278]

Wow!!! The charges are numerous and I think this will not affect the operation of the social media.. because they many businesses that are going in that social media handle. Casinos are there and AirDrops and other businesses are going there. I checked the link you provided and it is not a pleasant news. Telegram from the onset was a scammers den where scammers hide and do their unthinkable activities. So if that handle has been shut down, it will be better. Though they will look for another platforms to start their operations.

Not trying to defend Durov here but by saying that the media platforms is a scammers den and should be shutdown simply means that the entire social media platforms needs to be shutdown because everyone of them is been used by the scammers to carry out there scams. Having to run a non censorship platform like telegram will only get you this kind of attention just like cryptocurrency has been charged long ago.

My only problem here is Durov himself was said to be aware that he is persona non grata to the France nation and has been away from Europe itself for a long term and all of a sudden goes there, you can’t simply ignore or fight the government like that. This charges are many and nobody knows what next, but my belief is he would secretly be requested to release some data to the government

I have to agree that calling the platform scammers den is a bit harsh as I feel you are also correct in saying that labeling one means you must give them all the same label.

Scammers are going to frequent any platform that they can make money from. Whether that be Skype, telegram, Instagram, tiktok, Facebook, or even the forum.

[stompix]

Something is fishy here.

Nothing is fishy, french prosecutors have in the past asked Telegram to close hundreds of channels because of child pornography, but telegram staff did nothing or when they acted they did after months. In May French authorities issued a list of those changes to be blocked, some ISP actually went further and blocked the whole t.me domain, it was quite a mess, it was after the largest pedo bust in France this year.

Durov knew about this, he was cited about this, he has been a French citizen since 2021, yet he never did one thing to clear his image or that of Telegram with the Frech prosecutors and now he thought, what the hell, I'll just visit France again and pretend nothing has happened despite being actually on the wanted list.
He did it knowingly, had he stayed in Dubai he would have not been arrested, had he not ignored that warrant and challenged it in court he wouldn't have ended up on the wanted list.

That's the right thing to do, do they have jurisdiction over Durov on this matter they are acting like an international police they should have an official charge on this before they arrest him.

He is a French citizen arrested on French soil, of course, they have jurisdiction!

This is terrible timing. Just when Dogs is getting listed on top exchanges, Ton dropped 15% because of this news.

Oh the irony, crypto which was supposed to be decentralized drops 20% when a guy is arrested.
Talking about a single point of failure.

[nutildah]

I didn't know these details but I can see that happening as its a pretty unrestricted platform. Yes, too bad they don't have better measures in place to counter that kind of stuff. I hope they do in the future; other than that, it would be a shame for Telegram to change or disappear. Its one of the few social medial platforms that can't be spied on from the backend so easily.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Nothing is fishy, french prosecutors have in the past asked Telegram to close hundreds of channels because of child pornography, but telegram staff did nothing or when they acted they did after months. In May French authorities issued a list of those changes to be blocked, some ISP actually went further and blocked the whole t.me domain, it was quite a mess, it was after the largest pedo bust in France this year.

Durov knew about this, he was cited about this, he has been a French citizen since 2021, yet he never did one thing to clear his image or that of Telegram with the Frech prosecutors and now he thought, what the hell, I'll just visit France again and pretend nothing has happened despite being actually on the wanted list.
He did it knowingly, had he stayed in Dubai he would have not been arrested, had he not ignored that warrant and challenged it in court he wouldn't have ended up on the wanted list.

Durov tried at his best to avoid visiting France recent years but he thought something different this time and it's his mistake. Only he knew what he did this dangerous flight to France.

He is a French citizen arrested on French soil, of course, they have jurisdiction!

He has multiple citizenship, not only French.

Who is Pavel Durov, CEO of messaging app Telegram?

* Russian-born Durov, 39, is founder and owner of messaging app Telegram, a free to use platform that competes with other social media platforms such as Facebook's WhatsApp, or Instagram, TikTok and Wechat. The platform aims to surpass one billion active monthly users within a year.

* Durov became a French citizen in August 2021. He moved himself and Telegram to Dubai in 2017, and according to French media he has also received United Arab Emirates citizenship. He is also a citizen of St. Kitts and Nevis, a dual-island nation in the Caribbean, according to media reports.

France has been the country people should not travel to. You can see how they seize Nigeria presidential plane and two other planes or so belonging to Nigeria recently. Also now arrested Telegram CEO.

You must know reasons why they seized that plane. If there are solid reasons for the seizure, it's fine.

Generally speaking, I dislike censorship by governments.

[hd49728]

it would be a shame for Telegram to change or disappear. Its one of the few social medial platforms that can't be spied on from the backend so easily.

There are some privacy messaging applications but I did not try them. Anyone here already used them, please share your experience that they are good or not. Maybe we will need to find some applications as alternatives to Telegram.

https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-messaging
End-to-end encrypted
https://getsession.org/
https://status.im/

For mobile https://signal.org/
For emails https://threema.ch/

[bestof2005]

For everyone wanting to move to another privacy app; I recommend checking out "Element" it's similar to Telegram, My friend uses it, although I haven't yet. I recommend doing your own research or asking other members about this website
https://element.io/

All of this news was indeed sudden and unexpected but thankfully I do not live in France.

I've cut all ties with users on telegram and wiped all chats(none of which were illegal, but the feds dont need to see that), going to uninstall the app soon.
I won't be on long as usual. The people here on Bitcointalk made me learn alot about privacy which was my new goal to be on the site and without their help I would've been absolutely lost regarding Privacy. I owed the community for helping me achieve my goal, which was why I'm even here right now. May not be anywhere near enough, but better than being a freeloader and doing nothing.

[mindrust]

The west accuses Putin of being a dictator and then they jail the devs of decentralized mixing/wallet services and free speech platforms. Something tells me the west isn’t what they claim to be anymore.

I have no problems if they are fighting bad people but just a few months ago samurai wallet devs were also arrested and as far as I know they only coded the platform.

And this one happened in France. France, supposedly the home of free speech. Another French revolution is on the way it seems.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The French government is trying to make the argument that the use of disposable numbers and cryptocurrencies is somehow inherently criminal. The claim that there is no moderation on Telegram is also a lie. Channels with illegal or questionable content get removed all the time but when you have hundreds of millions of users it is impossible to remove these things entirely. Once you ban one group, a dozen more will be created to replace it. That is the struggle of every open platform which allows user generated content. This is not really about trying to fight against criminal activity, that is just the excuse they will use to justify censorship and surveillance. It will not surprise me if they demand that Telegram create a backdoor which allows them to scan encrypted private communication in order to “protect the children”.