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August 25, 2024, 10:03:43 AM
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Greeds and selfish interests in the mind of Bitcoin enthusiasts is the derivation of the market sentiments by which determines the prices of Bitcoin.

I actually came up with this thread after a Bitcoin fan tolde he has interest to invest on Bitcoin and after lecturing him about the volatility trends of the market, he said he can not invest on an asset that its value is Potential to be depreciated just so soon.
He literally did not consider that the value of his assets is potential to increase so soon as well but instead he is being grieved why it would depreciate but meanwhile... This is same guy who sets aside that he need the price to fall so that he could buy and hold against the markets appreciation.

Investors would only appreciate the market when there is market increase as much they are holding but yet this same investors some times wished for the market Dip so that they could buy high values of Bitcoin in cheap rates.

Their instincts is that once they have buy, the market should skyrocket so that they can place sell orders to make huge profits while beginners would be instigating at the opposite.
Everyone is based on selfish markets prediction strictly on self moderating interests.

The contrary other is literally the basics of the Bitcoin market sentiment amongst holders and beginners approaching the market.











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August 25, 2024, 10:57:21 AM
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Is good that you have told your friend about the volatility of Bitcoin because who knows his intention or understanding about Bitcoin investment for him to change his mind that way, perhaps he must have been thinking that Bitcoin investment is a quick way for him to start making money, however what he fails to understand is that Bitcoin volatility does not matter since it cannot prevent Bitcoin from reaching the goal.

In the case of wishing for the market to remain bullish is very common for almost all the investors especially those who have accumulated a lot of Bitcoin on there portion, so all there wish will just be that Bitcoin should continue increasing, so you shouldn't blame them because making profit at the end of our investment is the desire of every investors, however is very funny that while most of the investors wish for bulish market that's how other people who are just starting there investment are also hopping for the market to dip more further so that they would be able to accumulate a lot of Bitcoin.

 
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August 25, 2024, 11:05:30 AM
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Greeds and selfish interests in the mind of Bitcoin enthusiasts is the derivation of the market sentiments by which determines the prices of Bitcoin.
Price of Bitcoin firstly and mainly determined by value of Bitcoin that comes from its design: open source, decentralized and its utility and use cases. Market sentiment is another factor that comes after things decide value of Bitcoin. Without value, I beg that it's nearly no price on the market.

perhaps he must have been thinking that Bitcoin investment is a quick way for him to start making money, however what he fails to understand is that Bitcoin volatility does not matter since it cannot prevent Bitcoin from reaching the goal.
Investment means going with your capital and investment portfolio for long term. Investment is not a way to make money quickly or get rich quickly. Thinking of investment like this is wrong and won't lead to successful investment.

Because when people focus on short term, aim at get rick quickly, they will forget their investment target and turn to trading or worse trading with leverages or futures that are only bad for them with liquidations in this volatile market.

 
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August 25, 2024, 12:24:29 PM
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Investors would only appreciate the market when there is market increase as much they are holding but yet this same investors some times wished for the market Dip so that they could buy high values of Bitcoin in cheap rates.
Hahaha, such a person cannot be called an investor. A person can be called an investor when he has little knowledge of investment or has invested in an asset. These aspiring investors have refused to learn and understand that there is no magic in Bitcoin investment. Things don't go our way, whenever we want it. The first thing in Bitcoin investment knowledge is to understand the nature of Bitcoin, and how to store their coins and protect it from theft.

Tell your friend to go over and over again to lear the nature of Bitcoin because that is where he is missing out. When he understands that Bitcoin prices fluctuate it could be going up today and the next day is going down. Always expecting that the price should drop when they want to buy and when they buy it should start going up is not realistic at all. Tell him to wake up from his delusion if not he won't be able to buy any Bitcoin at all. The earlier he realized this the better for him.

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August 25, 2024, 12:53:23 PM
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I actually came up with this thread after a Bitcoin fan tolde he has interest to invest on Bitcoin and after lecturing him about the volatility trends of the market, he said he can not invest on an asset that its value is Potential to be depreciated just so soon.
This is what I always advocate for and you have done. Tell people the truth and reality of investing in the market. There's no pride in saying because of me they invested in Bitcoin yet they were not sufficiently informed about the highs and lows, the reds and greens of the market .

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Their instincts is that once they have buy, the market should skyrocket so that they can place sell orders to make huge profits while beginners would be instigating at the opposite.
Everyone is based on selfish markets prediction strictly on self moderating interests.
Well at the core of every human is self-centeredness and greed and the rest of them. For investors it is just how they are wired. That's why we have pump and dump and they don't care who losses out as long as it is not them. That's why we have pyramid and all types of ponzi schemes. It's more than an investor tendencies but core human tendencies.

The contrary other is literally the basics of the Bitcoin market sentiment amongst holders and beginners approaching the market.

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Assume he understood your explanation very well, to know that bull and dip are the major things that made investors to have interest on bitcoin investment, because there are some investors who will be waiting for the price to dump before they can buy and hold for long years while there are some investors who will be waiting for bull season to come before they can sell to make income. If you can understand those two things in bitcoin investment, there is nothing that will stop you not to have interest on bitcoin investment, I can still remember how my relative introduced me to bitcoin investment, and he make me to understand the basic of bitcoin market sentiment, and I was very happy to take the risk to use small funds to start the investment before I got to where I am now, and it has made me to like bitcoin investment than other cryptocurrencies investment.

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Assume he understood your explanation very well, to know that bull and dip are the major things that made investors to have interest on bitcoin investment
Investor's interest is profit.

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because there are some investors who will be waiting for the price to dump before they can buy and hold for long years while there are some investors who will be waiting for bull season to come before they can sell to make income.
All investors want profit but they can have different strategies for their investment. Strategies can be DCA and don't care of bull or bear market; or DCA in bear market mainly and nearly stop doing this in bull market when they only wait for time to take profit; or always wait for dips to buy and take profit after a good recovery, it's more like trading, no longer as investing.

Hahaha, such a person cannot be called an investor. A person can be called an investor when he has little knowledge of investment or has invested in an asset. These aspiring investors have refused to learn and understand that there is no magic in Bitcoin investment. Things don't go our way, whenever we want it. The first thing in Bitcoin investment knowledge is to understand the nature of Bitcoin, and how to store their coins and protect it from theft.
Using money for investment without due diligent research, lack of knowledge, understanding about market history, how a cycle works, and other things, will cause expensive cost on these people. As consequence of knowledge deficit, they will not have strong hands but weak hands instead. With weak hands, they will be panic, and fearfully exit the market in dips while smart and experienced investors wait for dips to get better entries and profits.

 
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August 25, 2024, 09:19:51 PM
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You know what they say if wishes were horses, beggars would ride, there is absolutely no one that doesn’t want a thing that doesn’t favours them, an investor would wishes for the market to be bullish while someone looking to either get into the market or someone looking to increase or add to their size will be hoping to add for a bearish sentiment while fuders will only be wishing for the opposite of the market and they still wouldn’t take advantage of it. So this are all human nature that cannot be changed


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Their instincts is that once they have buy, the market should skyrocket so that they can place sell orders to make huge profits while beginners would be instigating at the opposite.
Everyone is based on selfish markets prediction strictly on self moderating interests.

The contrary other is literally the basics of the Bitcoin market sentiment amongst holders and beginners approaching the market.
I don't really see the situation as greed because investors will always want to protect personal interests. The reason why people invest in any business is to make a profit. They want the market to always be favourable so that investments will bring profit within the shortest time. But that's not always a real-life situation since there will always be a risk of losses. Investing in Bitcoin is lucrative because if the price goes up, you make a profit; when it goes contrarily, it brings an opportunity to buy cheaper Bitcoin. Potential investors need to learn how the market works to stay away from avoidable losses.

To take full advantage of the Bitcoin market, new investors should be advised to consider using the DCA investment pattern.
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August 26, 2024, 10:23:06 AM
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The contrary other is literally the basics of the Bitcoin market sentiment amongst holders and beginners approaching the market.
That is exactly the point.
Every Bitcoin earners including traders and investors literally just want the fluctuation of the Bitcoin market to go on their ways but reverse of the sentiments be the case that there are oppositions in the market but meanwhile... They are all of the same goal which is making profits but quite unfortunate that despite that, a faction is hoping for a Dump in other to buy before holding in surge for interest while those whom are already holding are hoping for Pump still in other to make interest.

The good morning things about this Bitcoin market sentiment is that... There is no possibilities to manipulate the market. So, it is hence of no payouts of those investors who frowns over a current market condition by which it is not going as expected.

The only way is... Patient and buy at any given opportunity and then hold.
Then, every Investors would reach their goal but on different occasions depends on individual targets and time frame set aside either for a long or short term goal.











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August 26, 2024, 10:28:41 AM
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Then he is no investor, Bitcoin market is open to anyone but not everyone is bound to see the benefits and choose to become part of it. Bitcoin is volatile, that should even be the whole fun in the market where opportunities are taking to make good use of those down prices and accumulate more. I made a topic on why investors should value volatility especially while on it's Dips.

Your friend should have been more concerned on accumulating relatively with the period where the market is experiencing a down side to help him build up his portfolio instead of him worried just when to sell. Good thing you informed him earlier instead of blatantly giving him sweet stories which if he did invest and saw how his dollar value worth of Bitcoin keeps decreasing as a result of volatility then maybe would have been more serious to change his mind from selling.



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August 26, 2024, 10:30:28 AM
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The good morning things about this Bitcoin market sentiment is that... There is no possibilities to manipulate the market. So, it is hence of no payouts of those investors who frowns over a current market condition by which it is not going as expected.
Bitcoin market can be manipulated and you have enough time in this market to know this fact. "No possibilities to manipulate the market" is not true.

This market is volatile and by market manipulations, there are squeezes in up and down sides with Short squeeze and Long squeeze. This Bitcoin market is smaller a lot than stock market which is manipulable too.

Do you think stock market is impossible for manipulation too?

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August 26, 2024, 10:39:57 AM
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Greeds and selfish interests in the mind of Bitcoin enthusiasts is the derivation of the market sentiments by which determines the prices of Bitcoin.
My first time to know that selfishness relates to market sentiment. I knew that greed, fear, uncertainty are basic things contribute to market sentiment, but not selfishness.

https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/
https://www.binance.com/en/square/fear-and-greed-index
https://www.cointree.com/learn/crypto-fear-and-greed-index/
https://studio.glassnode.com/metrics?a=BTC&m=indicators.FearGreed

They don't define their Fear& Greed Index with any factor from Selfishness of investors.

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August 26, 2024, 04:33:50 PM
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You know what they say if wishes were horses, beggars would ride, there is absolutely no one that doesn’t want a thing that doesn’t favours them, an investor would wishes for the market to be bullish while someone looking to either get into the market or someone looking to increase or add to their size will be hoping to add for a bearish sentiment while fuders will only be wishing for the opposite of the market and they still wouldn’t take advantage of it. So this are all human nature that cannot be changed

It's our nature, but if a person (his friend, let's say) wants to succeed, he needs to learn that there is not only gloom, but doom sometimes ahead Grin

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August 26, 2024, 05:54:35 PM
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I used to be the person in that description of yours

When the market dipped, I bought some, hoping it will bounce back sooner, when eventually the market keep going down, I was becoming nervous, but bought some more in hope I will get  some more profit. Then, when the market finally on rise, I was waiting for the higher price, until eventually it went down again, even only slightest price reduction, I regretted it, "why didn't I sell it earlier?".

After awhile, I got exposed more information about Bitcoin and I keep educating myself about. Now, in order to maintain my mental stability, I choose to hold, that's what I learned from this forum so far.
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August 26, 2024, 07:45:30 PM
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I actually came up with this thread after a Bitcoin fan tolde he has interest to invest on Bitcoin and after lecturing him about the volatility trends of the market, he said he can not invest on an asset that its value is Potential to be depreciated just so soon.
He literally did not consider that the value of his assets is potential to increase so soon as well but instead he is being grieved why it would depreciate but meanwhile... This is same guy who sets aside that he need the price to fall so that he could buy and hold against the markets appreciation.

Maybe the guy was actually looking for short term trading strategy where he can buy at a DIP and sell when the price skyrockets, I don't see it as a greedy person but he lacks patience and i commend you opening up to him about the market fluctuations because this kind of people if you don't tell them about how the market works and they invest without knowing about the upwards and downwards movements in the price of bitcoin and such a person invest and the price starts DIPPING they will become so angry with you without knowing that the price will return again.  Even without thinking about the profits you stands to gain as a Bitcoin investor but owning a valuable asset like Bitcoin is worth being proud of.

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August 26, 2024, 10:26:47 PM
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All of us are the same after we purchase, we all want that the market should skyrocket already but that's not happening anytime soon. Another scenario is when we're selling, the market all of the sudden shoots up and I don't know if I am the only one that experienced that but I guess others have experienced that too.

Everyone is based on selfish markets prediction strictly on self moderating interests.
That is because we have invested our hard-earned money in the market and we're having biased predictions that shall be in favor of us. That's a normal thing to have predictions and self interests on this market when you have not just invested only money but also time to watch the market carefully.

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August 26, 2024, 11:24:41 PM
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Whoever buys an assets does so with the intent to sell at a much higher price. I wouldn't blame the hguy you onboarded if he decided not to get into bitcoin because of the potential losses he might incur. If anything, it's good that you exposed him to the risks involved in getting into Bitcoin so that he can make a well informed decision before proceeding. If anybody doesn't want to get involved because of the risks, it's their loss because a wise man once said — scared money makes no money.

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I actually came up with this thread after a Bitcoin fan tolde he has interest to invest on Bitcoin and after lecturing him about the volatility trends of the market, he said he can not invest on an asset that its value is Potential to be depreciated just so soon.
This is what I always advocate for and you have done. Tell people the truth and reality of investing in the market. There's no pride in saying because of me they invested in Bitcoin yet they were not sufficiently informed about the highs and lows, the reds and greens of the market .

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Their instincts is that once they have buy, the market should skyrocket so that they can place sell orders to make huge profits while beginners would be instigating at the opposite.
Everyone is based on selfish markets prediction strictly on self moderating interests.
Well at the core of every human is self-centeredness and greed and the rest of them. For investors it is just how they are wired. That's why we have pump and dump and they don't care who losses out as long as it is not them. That's why we have pyramid and all types of ponzi schemes. It's more than an investor tendencies but core human tendencies.

The contrary other is literally the basics of the Bitcoin market sentiment amongst holders and beginners approaching the market.

All investors are actually self-centered and are highly greedy to expect for quick gains. But as their experience grows in the market and becomes more understanding on the market volatility, that’s when they develop more patience because they now clearly understand that if they go more greedy, they will lose everything they have worked hard from the start. So it’s like they’re left with no choice but to be more patient and wait until the market signals them to sell, otherwise if they’ll sell at a lower price, they’ll end up at a big loss.

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August 26, 2024, 11:50:49 PM
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Those who fear the volatility of the market will never invest their money in Bitcoin or other crypto currencies, and it's always better to not suggest anything related to crypto to such people because their fearful and skeptical mind won't let them to invest in any crypto asset and wasting your precious time of such people isn't worth it at all.

I believe you were lucky that your friend who was fearful didn't invested in Bitcoin because if he had invested in Bitcoin and out of sudden Bitcoin's price had got a huge dip then that friend of yours would consider you responsible for it. And, such fearful investors are the ones who sell in fear to avoid more losses but actually they're preventing themselves from earning huge profits.

 
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