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August 25, 2024, 11:10:51 AM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor
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August 25, 2024, 11:33:23 AM
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Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor
The Soviet Union was never the dominant world power, though. When discussing dominant world powers, I think the situation is different. According to Strauss-Howe generational theory, history shows that dominant world powers tend to collapse roughly every 90 years. BTW, if the US collapses as a world power, then you should expect USD to plummet.

There is a good write-up from a Bitcoiner, which explains why this occurs: https://brandonquittem.com/bitcoin-rhythms-of-history/.

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How does that even matter? The collapse of USA might be beneficial for the people tbf, considering by collapse you mean : Government collapse ; they need a new system, when the choice is between Biden and Trump, what else would you imagine? One person is a convict and one person seems to have Alzheimers. The country is funding wars around the world where its own people complain about their tax money being used like this.

BRICS nations with India and China, dominating the supply of the world, taken they can keep it up and move up from being developing to developed nations, I don’t think they will collapse as well but then again there is a lot of internal issues, with India shaking hands with Russia and Ukraine at the same time, begging to be backed up be the USA, this is a whole loop.

The nations are just chess pieces of the rich, so be financially independent and have some independent income aside from big companies and bank and I think everyone will do just fine.
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August 25, 2024, 12:40:41 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years

You could grow on waiting for that collapse.
The USA is quite resilient,  It survived the cold war clearly as a winner.

And I'm not a US Citizen, far from it.
I think the US Financial Services are running wild and surf from bubble to bubble also due to government handouts.

China is the next Power in danger of collapsing, Russia started this adventure called special military operation in order to avoid a collapse.
Are you aware that politicians live and work under the premise that states cannot go bankrupt. They can only default. 

BRIC was born in 2009:
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with their governments meeting annually at formal summits and coordinating multilateral policies since 2009.
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August 25, 2024, 01:18:30 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor

Good luck, you'll be waiting a long time, especially if you are naive enough to compare it to the soviet union. You sound like a bitter russian. America may not always be the top super power and has done extremely well to hold that title for a long time. Previously it was a title held by the British empire, before that Romans, before that Genghis khan, the Chinese dynasties and all the other ones in between. America however is much more adaptable than countries like China, yet Russia is not even a contender in the top 50 to ever hold that title. So take your crying and whining, put it to use somewhere else because your dreams are never going to come true in your lifetime. Your conspiracy theories make you sound like a clown.

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August 25, 2024, 01:25:36 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor

Good luck, you'll be waiting a long time, especially if you are naive enough to compare it to the soviet union. You sound like a bitter russian. America may not always be the top super power and has done extremely well to hold that title for a long time. Previously it was a title held by the British empire, before that Romans, before that Genghis khan, the Chinese dynasties and all the other ones in between. America however is much more adaptable than countries like China, yet Russia is not even a contender in the top 50 to ever hold that title. So take your crying and whining, put it to use somewhere else because your dreams are never going to come true in your lifetime. Your conspiracy theories make you sound like a clown.


Russia is russia and soviet Union is soviet they are 2 different things.
Remember soviet Union was created by the USA.
Russia now it's not soviet but different place.
So USA is exacly like soviet union was but collapse can coming....the collapse it's not the end but it's good time to very cheap
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August 25, 2024, 01:41:18 PM
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Good luck, you'll be waiting a long time, especially if you are naive enough to compare it to the soviet union. You sound like a bitter russian. America may not always be the top super power and has done extremely well to hold that title for a long time. Previously it was a title held by the British empire, before that Romans, before that Genghis khan, the Chinese dynasties and all the other ones in between. America however is much more adaptable than countries like China, yet Russia is not even a contender in the top 50 to ever hold that title. So take your crying and whining, put it to use somewhere else because your dreams are never going to come true in your lifetime. Your conspiracy theories make you sound like a clown.

You said it yourself. There were many other dominant powers before USA and they all have one thing in common: all of them collapsed at some point.

I don’t know why are you angry at the OP that much but if you think USA will lead the world forever then I would say you were being unnecessarily emotional here.

USA won’t disappear when some other dominant power becomes the new cultural and financial center of the world just like how the Romans, Brits, Mongols etc didn’t disappear when they stopped becoming a super power. All of those people still exist today. It is just they ain’t sitting in the driver’s seat.

USA will follow the same fate of the others’. They won’t be the leading power but they will be a country like theUK, a soft power. The next super power will listen to what they have to say but ultimately the US won’t be making the decisions.

USA brought this onto itself anyway. What were they expecting when they outsourced their production to China? The Chinese now copied every patent and tech the US had and making their own stuff without giving a care in the world. 30 years ago the Chinese were poor as fuck, just a shitty crowded country and now they are as big or even a bigger economy than the US.

It is like 30 or 40 years ago some rich people got incredibly mad at US and they wanted to take revenge by helping China. I don’t see any other explanation to what happened.

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August 25, 2024, 01:54:59 PM
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Remember soviet Union was created by the USA.


Where is the Proof to that Statement?

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You should try you improve your topics a little bit and try participating in them yourself. So far, you keep creating new topics with a wall of text that doesn't have decent formatting and is hard to follow your thoughts. Then you barely participate in your own topics. Like your current 3 topics in this board that you created in the past 24 hours have 0 posts from yourself apart from the OP.

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My opinion is that empires, at the current stage of development, cannot collapse. Because globalization has connected all, or almost all, countries with each other. How can a state whose factories are in the hands of transnational corporations collapse?

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August 25, 2024, 03:38:58 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor



In as much as I try to read your post I can digest it enough to make my own contributions,tho your topic said "I want to be ready when USA collapse" before I continue I want to ask are you praying for the downfall of USA and how does it's collapse will be of great importance or help to you.

And another thing is your points aren't that clear enough to state the fact but one thing you should know is amidst all the happenings and the strong government policy and power USA is not likely to fall nor collapse like you said,if you don't know they are one of the top country with so much power and influence so it's collapse it's unlikely gonna happen.

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August 25, 2024, 04:12:37 PM
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Good luck, you'll be waiting a long time, especially if you are naive enough to compare it to the soviet union. You sound like a bitter russian. America may not always be the top super power and has done extremely well to hold that title for a long time. Previously it was a title held by the British empire, before that Romans, before that Genghis khan, the Chinese dynasties and all the other ones in between. America however is much more adaptable than countries like China, yet Russia is not even a contender in the top 50 to ever hold that title. So take your crying and whining, put it to use somewhere else because your dreams are never going to come true in your lifetime. Your conspiracy theories make you sound like a clown.

You said it yourself. There were many other dominant powers before USA and they all have one thing in common: all of them collapsed at some point.

I don’t know why are you angry at the OP that much but if you think USA will lead the world forever then I would say you were being unnecessarily emotional here.

USA won’t disappear when some other dominant power becomes the new cultural and financial center of the world just like how the Romans, Brits, Mongols etc didn’t disappear when they stopped becoming a super power. All of those people still exist today. It is just they ain’t sitting in the driver’s seat.

USA will follow the same fate of the others’. They won’t be the leading power but they will be a country like theUK, a soft power. The next super power will listen to what they have to say but ultimately the US won’t be making the decisions.

USA brought this onto itself anyway. What were they expecting when they outsourced their production to China? The Chinese now copied every patent and tech the US had and making their own stuff without giving a care in the world. 30 years ago the Chinese were poor as fuck, just a shitty crowded country and now they are as big or even a bigger economy than the US.

It is like 30 or 40 years ago some rich people got incredibly mad at US and they wanted to take revenge by helping China. I don’t see any other explanation to what happened.


Yes you said smart things everything works the same way and yes usa will be new UK what that means?
It means USD will be GBP what that means?
It means we see a lot higher USD against other countries currencies.
China is ready to become new USA yes.
But Im talking about collapse of dollar Im talking about COLLAPSE OF USA short time good dip to buy cheap with strong dollar
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Good luck, you'll be waiting a long time, especially if you are naive enough to compare it to the soviet union. You sound like a bitter russian. America may not always be the top super power and has done extremely well to hold that title for a long time. Previously it was a title held by the British empire, before that Romans, before that Genghis khan, the Chinese dynasties and all the other ones in between. America however is much more adaptable than countries like China, yet Russia is not even a contender in the top 50 to ever hold that title. So take your crying and whining, put it to use somewhere else because your dreams are never going to come true in your lifetime. Your conspiracy theories make you sound like a clown.

You said it yourself. There were many other dominant powers before USA and they all have one thing in common: all of them collapsed at some point.

I don’t know why are you angry at the OP that much but if you think USA will lead the world forever then I would say you were being unnecessarily emotional here.

USA won’t disappear when some other dominant power becomes the new cultural and financial center of the world just like how the Romans, Brits, Mongols etc didn’t disappear when they stopped becoming a super power. All of those people still exist today. It is just they ain’t sitting in the driver’s seat.

USA will follow the same fate of the others’. They won’t be the leading power but they will be a country like theUK, a soft power. The next super power will listen to what they have to say but ultimately the US won’t be making the decisions.

USA brought this onto itself anyway. What were they expecting when they outsourced their production to China? The Chinese now copied every patent and tech the US had and making their own stuff without giving a care in the world. 30 years ago the Chinese were poor as fuck, just a shitty crowded country and now they are as big or even a bigger economy than the US.

It is like 30 or 40 years ago some rich people got incredibly mad at US and they wanted to take revenge by helping China. I don’t see any other explanation to what happened.


Yes you said smart things everything works the same way and yes usa will be new UK what that means?
It means USD will be GBP what that means?
It means we see a lot higher USD against other countries currencies.
China is ready to become new USA yes.
But Im talking about collapse of dollar Im talking about COLLAPSE OF USA short time good dip to buy cheap with strong dollar

I don't think China is trying to be dominant like US and will spread its military influence everywhere. But in finance most probably they want every market to be cornered by them as they are merely the supplier of the world.

If you are not from US then you wouldn't have to worry about it if the collapse really happens but usually, it will take time and it may not even affect regular people in the US. They will begin to rebuild their manufacturing as well. The USD may collapse but only in the US which means your local currency will still be the same but higher conversion with USD.

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August 25, 2024, 04:41:47 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor

Basic data: Empire (from Latin imperium - power) is one of the historical types of state. According to historian Stephen Howe, an empire is characterized by the fact that it consists of a center and a subordinate periphery, and these peripheral areas are usually conquered.
It doesn't take much intelligence to realize that the United States is not an empire. The US is one of the world leaders, and that's the end of the manipulation Smiley

A few questions remain:
1. What gives you HOPE for the “collapse of the USA” ? What benefit will it bring to you and your country, your population ?
2. Have you ever thought that you should not wait for the collapse of the U.S., but should maximize your efforts to make YOUR COUNTRY better, and try to catch up with the U.S. ?
3. If the USA collapses - how do you think the situation on the world market will be and how it will affect YOUR country's economy ?

I am very hopeful, although I am not sure I will get answers Smiley

PS The Soviet Union collapsed for the very reason that it was an absolutely bastardized empire. Don't tell me about the USSR - I was born there and watched the collapse of that nasty empire Smiley

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August 25, 2024, 05:03:01 PM
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Empires don't necessarily collapse. Sometimes they get reshaped, sometimes they lose some power. France, the UK, Spain are examples of states that have been around continuously for many centuries. Their borders changed, their influence weakened, but they are still here. I believe the US can similarly keep existing for centuries to come, but it probably will be losing some global power over time.
So perhaps the USD will weaken, but that doesn't equal collapsing.

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August 25, 2024, 05:37:53 PM
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Empires don't necessarily collapse. Sometimes they get reshaped, sometimes they lose some power. France, the UK, Spain are examples of states that have been around continuously for many centuries. Their borders changed, their influence weakened, but they are still here. I believe the US can similarly keep existing for centuries to come, but it probably will be losing some global power over time.
So perhaps the USD will weaken, but that doesn't equal collapsing.

it has collapsed people don't understand that  the collapse is not want they think a collapse should be.


23 years in a row adding to the deficit is a collapse.

the next president will add to the deficits and eventually the 'official' collapse will have happened.

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August 25, 2024, 06:39:31 PM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.
So Every empires fall one day the BRICS nations will fall but not before 50-100 years
But collapse never happens from the outside but usually divided issues inside the group some leaders will move away to try to make their own agenda and some will Leave 100%
What could be the most suitable wealth measure on that time dollar lose value then it will be cryptocurrency and anyone who got crypto will come and buy usa for pennies cheap very cheap.
Look at the mobs the mafia when they grow big they collapse it's like the logical process.
When that day comes you want to be ready to pick up peaces from the ground floor.
And China and russia want usa to fall they can not attack usa directly but they can use their ways to influence over usa to make chaos ....what the putin can do its the usa revolution like the USA did for russia long time ago.
At the end any empire will fall that's only the question of time when it would be happening.
But Im not here to take sides Im here to collect peaces from the floor when everything collapses.
I LET the world elite fight and make their scams and manipulations while Im quetly in crypto and finances so i'll reap the fruits of volatility and my KARMA is clean i don't get involved of blackrock or other elite activities so i don't get enemies while Im watching when left overs will fall down and i go collect like smart RAT Smiley so let the bad and powerhungry people fight with each others and do the bad things to get money while Im quietly collect money also from their actions....for me the rotchilds and blackrocks are the ones who collect money and do all the work while Im using their system to get benefits aswell.
Look at the soviet union.....it collapsed....so we know the usa collapse soon but not the dollar just the economy will collapse so it's a gift you get everything from ground floor
History is way more complicated than that. I mean you are comparing US to Soviet union that lasted 9 years? Ok.
Enpires fall, or change, but it's rare that people would be living trough that in the same nation when it happens. Yet everyone seems to think that they are the ones living in the breaking point, because they don't have perspective more than their subjectivity, and majority don't seem to understand history and how everything affects everything. There's really no starting point where even start reading about it.

But sure, nothing prevents you to be doomsday-prepper. It was way more popular back in day with luxury bunkers people bought ticket for and rations they stacked up on their own bunkers. Survival skills were also a trend at some point. I mean it's a cool hobby to a point, but i feel that reality would look similar to "the road". And that's a dystopia where surviving isn't really worth it.

And when you see "elite" as an enemy, maybe look at the history books once more to see, in what uprisings "elite" has been the enemy before, and against whom. You might end up being on other end of the stick that you thought.

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August 25, 2024, 06:57:20 PM
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it has collapsed people don't understand that  the collapse is not want they think a collapse should be.

You knowledge into finance is astonishing. The Economy is set up with inflation in mind.
People grow, have a family, 3 kids, all those kids marry and have kids. How will you press that into a fixed amount money system?

You cannot. Bitcoin was not developed to conquer the world. It was developed as P2P.

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it has collapsed people don't understand that  the collapse is not want they think a collapse should be.


23 years in a row adding to the deficit is a collapse.

the next president will add to the deficits and eventually the 'official' collapse will have happened.
The collapse of the US. dollar's purchasing power has been existing for many decades, not in the last 23 years. It is a long term issue and no single President can fix it. In one or two presidencies, one President can halt the inflation and stop massive printing added to money supply, but next Presidents will restart money printing and the purchasing power of US. dollar will fall again.

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August 26, 2024, 05:45:56 AM
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Im waiting when usa collapse.

Good luck with your waiting! I am sure you are not going to see it in your lifetime and probably not even your grandchildren will see US collapsing! You probably don't have much idea about how war economy works. You read it right! "War economy" is a thing and US is king of it.

US can indeed collapse if it goes into a full blown war with China. But in thar case, not only US will collapse but some other big economies will collapse as well. But it's highly unlikely that US will go into a full blown war with China.

US economy thrives on war. If US sees a possibility of a economic downturn, they will start selling their high-technology war machines to the Asian nations which have not been sold yet to anyone. Countries are waiting with bags full of money to buy these war machines.

Also, another interesting fact, US is constantly reducing their military spending. It was around 11.3% of their GDP in 1954 and the projected spending in 2024 is only 2.4% of their GDP. If US sees an imminent collapse, they might suddenly find some new oil reserve in African countries. It's time for Africa! 

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