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August 26, 2024, 09:35:41 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
This may just be the real reason behind those account closures that we have seen this year across many casinos. I have been wondering why such things will happen even in some reputable casinos and sine no one even mention which section of the casinos TOS were violated, I have not thought it could be multiple account creation in the same casino.

It is not supposed to be difficult to know that using many accounts for casino that specify only one account will be a big problem especially when the casino makes KYC mandatory.

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August 26, 2024, 09:37:01 PM
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I do not see any good reason for them blocking multiple accounts in casino gambling by the casino platform because it has no negative effect to the platform. As long as those accounts do not go against the rules of the casino platform. They need more users and that is also part of getting new users into the system. The reason for banning multiple account in the Casino platform should be that they either violate the platform rules or cheat other users int he platform.

Majority of people that creates multiple account in a casino are doing it to cheat the system and not because they are hoping on getting a different experience from the account. Some of them create it to cheat in tournaments and also to abuse several NDBs - we have seen several cases of accounts being created so that they could get bonus and then tip their main account and they continue doing it till their account gets the minimum withdrawal amount.

I remember when I created a double account at bcgame to test out the self exclusion system and then got reminded by a user here in Bitcointalk that I should let them know about my other account and have them disable it to prevent future problems with the site.
And those people do really believe that they could milk out the casino but without knowing or they do make just make themselves being caught and locked up their funds. They would easily be detect out by the system
if ever they would really be tending out to cheat. We do know that these platforms are really that serious when it comes to security and if there would really be some breaches then it would be detected right away
and if its missed then that would really be their own deligence about on setting much better security measures but in speaking about multi accounts and other abuses then it would be something that easy to be
caught. Usually on the sites that im playing then they are really that allowing multi-accounts on which its good yet there are really people who do make new accounts specially on the time that they do feel out that they arent lucky on the current one or simply they had forgotten their account details and make another new one. Just like been said by others that as long you arent doing something stupid then i dont really see any issues with this but if you are making some accounts for the sake of abusing something then get prepared into those accounts to be blocked.

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August 26, 2024, 10:58:18 PM
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Reading TOCs is actually the best way to avoid future problems when using any product or service. The issue with reading TOCs is that it is very tedious and it is cumbersome to read especially if you have to do so for every website or app that you use. I do read some TOCs of gambling sites and if it becomes tiring, I just put it into an AI like Chatgpt for a summarize version. I believe it is a very important first-step with using any product or service but it is usually skipped.

Some of the issues that users have and come to forum to complain is due to a breach in TOCs.  Most TOCs breaches aren't checked until a big win because every casino wants to cross Ts and dot (i)s before making any payout. Very important imo.

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August 26, 2024, 11:17:17 PM
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However, as casino player user CTRL+F. You can find out important information in just under 30-60 seconds.
This is what I also do to save some time, and on top of that, skim through certain sections including the registration or account section where the prohibited countries are listed. There are still casinos that don't block their players properly and only catch them once they're about to withdraw their balance.

Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.
This problem could happen through the use of a VPN as well, even though you only have one account you could indirectly link your account because there's always a possibility for someone using the same VPN mostly the free ones.

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August 26, 2024, 11:34:10 PM
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And those people do really believe that they could milk out the casino but without knowing or they do make just make themselves being caught and locked up their funds.

They’re some that have been able to successfully pull off the scam - they don’t usually make any deposits, all they do is look for casinos that allow No Deposit Bonuses (NDBs) and try to create as much account as they want and then play with them and get a little balance after which they’ll send all the money they got from other accounts to one major account where they’ll withdraw from and if after withdrawing the accounts gets blocked they’ll just go on and create more accounts and continue trying to cheat the system. Personally, it seems like a waste of time and most casinos have a higher wagering requirement so they’ll have to first pass through that phase for several accounts which will take several days and then tip their main account (which will also take time depending on the number of accounts they’re using) and then withdraw from the main account (which most times is not a huge amount). It’s just a waste of time in my own opinion.

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August 26, 2024, 11:54:14 PM
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Yes, it's always recommended to read the terms and conditions of a gambling site before making an account at it. I've personally never created more than 1 account on any crypto casinos and that's why I may not face any issues regarding multi accounting.

But there are many people who create multiple accounts and casinos often consider such act as cheating because the ones creating multiple accounts might want to take advantage of a casino by availing the signup bonuses multiple times and no casino would allow something like that.

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August 26, 2024, 11:58:09 PM
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Question is how many people read terms of service naturally except when they encounter issues that requires reading it? literally just a few right?. Personally I don't care about reading any terms of service from gambling sites because it's usually very long to read when I have other things to. this is exactly happens to most of us here and that's why we do complain about accounts getting restricted or so.

If we can dedicate some few minutes to reading what the terms are saying we wouldn't be complaining anymore because the always make it obvious but sometimes they are always snicky with their terms and conditions because they know if people get hold of the information early they will probably escape the site traps.
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August 27, 2024, 12:08:18 AM
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Well the idea of multi account imo is not a good one in the first place , don't really know why you had to open multiple account, I mean some account do allow deletion but anyways you didn't read the TOC and the funniest part is they won't even notify you until you hit the jackpot  Grin Grin now they will claim you've broken one of the rules and regulations of their site and you have to go through the consequences... We've seen alot and we will continue to see more because people don't care about reading TOC(also guilty too sometimes , i tend to skip because I found it too long most  times  Smiley), don'treally know if they purposely make it long .... looks shady to me.
Personally I don't care about reading any terms of service from gambling sites because it's usually very long to read when I have other things to. this is exactly happens to most of us here and that's why we do complain about accounts getting restricted or so.

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It's pretty common. I mean, I don't think there are a LOT of people who read the ToS on their first visit. God knows how needlessly long and cluttered that thing can be. Yes it's necessary to avoid loopholes but at the very least, create one for the common person where the rules are simplified as much as possible. The realm of ToS is pretty much for when legal things happen, often lawsuits or whatnot, and not really something your average day to day gambler has to read lol.

 
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August 27, 2024, 01:40:02 AM
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Yes, it's always recommended to read the terms and conditions of a gambling site before making an account at it. I've personally never created more than 1 account on any crypto casinos and that's why I may not face any issues regarding multi accounting.

But there are many people who create multiple accounts and casinos often consider such act as cheating because the ones creating multiple accounts might want to take advantage of a casino by availing the signup bonuses multiple times and no casino would allow something like that.
it is indeed a small thing that is actually quite important to understand but most gamblers often ignore this because in my opinion many people ignore it because this is considered trivial even though it is quite important. some cases that occur there are gamblers who experience problems when they have gambled and that is sometimes because they do not read the terms and conditions of the gambling site, whether violating the rules or whatever but what is clear is that they do not understand everything properly.
some casinos do have a sign-up bonus feature, but I think that even then certain conditions are required so when they register and choose the bonus feature then there will be new rules that must be followed so not all gamblers will choose the sign-up bonus feature that the casino provides.

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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

And I don't know why people create more accounts in one casino though, logic says that we should only have one account, easy. And that's why many accusations has been raised by casino's and gamblers should be aware even if they have like someone from their household who plays and create another account.

They should know that it's against the TOS of many casinos, hence they should be aware of the said consequence. And someone in their household wants to play then why not used that account as well instead of creating a new one?

 
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August 27, 2024, 03:55:24 AM
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That is why before we register on the casino, we must makes sure to read the ToS so we can understand what we can do and don't. We don't have to create 2 account on the same casino because that will be too risky for us. The casino will knows those who have 2 account on their casino.

But people seems to be greedy so they create 2 accounts or more and hopes they can do something with that 2 accounts. You can playing gambling with all of your account but when you want to withdraw, the casino will make sure that you don't cheat them. If casino found you cheat them, they can do many things so you need to be ready with that.

To be safe, you don't have to create 2 accounts and only use one account for every casino. Reading the ToS is a must so we don't break any rules from the casino. Besides that, having 2 accounts can be confusing because you need to manage all of your funds but if the casino caught you have 2 accounts, the casino can close all of your accounts.

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August 27, 2024, 05:42:38 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
You can hardly find any gambling platform that allows for more than one account, for it is believed that multiple accounts are a cheating to the casino and fellow gamblers, and so therefore, they make it a strict rule in their ToS.

Some persons do open multiple accounts as a result that they didn't see a warning ToS against it after they must have dedicated time to peruse through the ToS. But assuming you read it's ToS and didn't see it doesn't mean they allow it. They can be so crafty giving no attention about it even after noticing, in as much as you're making losses with those accounts and putting the casinos in profits.

But the very moment the gambler start getting winnings with those accounts his attention will be called to with an instant ban/restriction and all funds forfeited to the casino. Such matters of multiple accounts has always ended in favour of the gambling site never minding if the act was done by the gambler out of ignorance or not, they give no room for excuse to thrive.

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For those who already experience to using online casinos i think they have already know this rule that having multiple accounts in the casinos is forbidden and i think this is general rules which usually every current casinos don't allowed it so i think those who involved in online casinos for a long time have already know this rule and not necessary to read the ToS everytime when they want to register to the particular casinos because they have already know this term

But i think sometimes people having multiple account not because they want to cheat the casinos because some people has been forgot their password and email to register and usually they created new account with using new email but indeed the casinos don't want to know about this reason because having more than 1 account is against their rules

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August 27, 2024, 07:39:02 AM
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If all gamblers follow what I mentioned above, I'm sure this will remove many complaints against casinos.

But i think sometimes people having multiple account not because they want to cheat the casinos because some people has been forgot their password and email to register and usually they created new account with using new email but indeed the casinos don't want to know about this reason because having more than 1 account is against their rules
Forgot for having an old account means it already happened for a long time and now you come back, you might already use a different ISP provider, different device or move to different location. In this case, the casino may likely not aware if you have an old account.

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All casinos and bookmakers that I know prohibit the use of multiple accounts. This is a completely reasonable practice, but in my opinion, casinos and bookmakers clearly abuse it. Bookmakers fight long-term profitable players, forcing them to create more and more new accounts and then block them again. The profitable player has no choice but to create new accounts. By the way, on some decentralized betting exchanges, multiple accounts are not prohibited. Indeed, it is difficult to prohibit a decentralized account, especially if it is created using modern anti-detect browsers.

 
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August 27, 2024, 09:00:40 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

In my point it is very important here that users of online gambling sites read and understand the ToS beforehand, prior to beginning any gambling activity. Several casinos have particularly stringent policies concerning having multiple accounts per user or per household and result in account suspension upon non-compliance, or even possibly leading to a ban. If a web site has many accounts going to the same customer-especially through bonuses or promotions-then it may block or cancel all accounts. Also, multiple accounts created via the same ISP can raise some flags in abusive behavior detectors. Therefore, by understanding the ToS and keeping in line with them, it would be possible to avoid such mistakes and further problems in the management or success of the booking.

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August 27, 2024, 09:18:51 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.
These are things you come to learn on this forum eventually because, most users don’t give a sh*t about the ToS until they’ve landed in some trouble and would have it quite to them. Some of the many reasons behind the many negligence is because, they don’t have a platform or forum that organizes and discuss on these issues. That’s why it’s a plus to be on the forum, you get to be met with other people’s problems and experiences.

There is nothing you would do on an alternative account that can’t be done on one account while gambling. Most of the reasons why people own that is to by pass certain rules to;

Not repeating same bet,
Staking well above maximum,
Withdrawing well beyond maximum,
Cheating bonus systems and many more.

For these reasons, multi accounts on gambling sites is frowned at. Find yourself in this situation, you have almost nothing to rely on for an escape.

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August 27, 2024, 09:40:31 AM
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Question is how many people read terms of service naturally except when they encounter issues that requires reading it? literally just a few right?. Personally I don't care about reading any terms of service from gambling sites because it's usually very long to read when I have other things to. this is exactly happens to most of us here and that's why we do complain about accounts getting restricted or so.

If we can dedicate some few minutes to reading what the terms are saying we wouldn't be complaining anymore because the always make it obvious but sometimes they are always snicky with their terms and conditions because they know if people get hold of the information early they will probably escape the site traps.
This is a general problem and I am glad a lot of persons are talking about it. Am also grateful to the forum because where would I have understood the importance of Tos and privacy in casinos? Not just in casinos alone, but in other platform it is important and should be read when signing up in any platform. Becuase it seems these platforms understand that people do not ay attention to the TOs and that is why they hide everything truth there.

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August 27, 2024, 10:03:30 AM
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All casinos and bookmakers that I know prohibit the use of multiple accounts. This is a completely reasonable practice, but in my opinion, casinos and bookmakers clearly abuse it. Bookmakers fight long-term profitable players, forcing them to create more and more new accounts and then block them again. The profitable player has no choice but to create new accounts. By the way, on some decentralized betting exchanges, multiple accounts are not prohibited. Indeed, it is difficult to prohibit a decentralized account, especially if it is created using modern anti-detect browsers.

Well it's 50/50 and they have their fraud department to monitor everything and once a accusations have been raised against this casino, it's going to be a case of "he say, she says". So really hard to see who's fault at it in the beginning, and once the casino shows proof that the accuser has two accounts and then there is a different story.

But there are cases that the casino's are wrong, I remember that there was one case against a reputable member here and he was accused of multi accounts and once they showed some proof, members quickly identified what could have been the mistakes and so the accusations has been dropped.

Most important thing is just to read the ToS or every casino that we are going to play.

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