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August 29, 2024, 05:43:48 AM
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This is the right verdict to such cases. Because how well does the casino know an individual that they will get to find out he has multiple account. What are their evidence. Because in Casinos that accepts kyc, each user does kyc with a different identity so how certain that these two accounts are from one user if the information provided correctly are different. They might end up freezing a different persons account who is not involved just because they are suspecting the account t be the second account of someone which is completely not fair. Meanwhile, freezing the account is much more better than when they get to banned the account. Oh thats such a wrong thing to do because they might end up banning the wrong user who is innocent of the crimes the other user did or the rules he broke.
Casino can easily to check every member on their casino because they are the casino owner. They can see the relation between one account to other account if they thinks that the account is related to the other account. Maybe you can safe for a short term but I don't think that you can use all of your account for a long time so the casino can find all of your account especially if they see something suspicious with the account. They can asks you to sends additional document just to make sure you don't cheat them or other things that can make you in trouble. Besides that, casino can easily freeze your account with the other account that you have. The member can try to use different document to verify their accounts but that doesn't mean the casino doesn't knows because casino can check using the other ways to finds if you trick them.

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August 29, 2024, 05:57:36 AM
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This is the right verdict to such cases. Because how well does the casino know an individual that they will get to find out he has multiple account. What are their evidence. Because in Casinos that accepts kyc, each user does kyc with a different identity so how certain that these two accounts are from one user if the information provided correctly are different. They might end up freezing a different persons account who is not involved just because they are suspecting the account t be the second account of someone which is completely not fair. Meanwhile, freezing the account is much more better than when they get to banned the account. Oh thats such a wrong thing to do because they might end up banning the wrong user who is innocent of the crimes the other user did or the rules he broke.
Casino can easily to check every member on their casino because they are the casino owner. They can see the relation between one account to other account if they thinks that the account is related to the other account. Maybe you can safe for a short term but I don't think that you can use all of your account for a long time so the casino can find all of your account especially if they see something suspicious with the account. They can asks you to sends additional document just to make sure you don't cheat them or other things that can make you in trouble. Besides that, casino can easily freeze your account with the other account that you have. The member can try to use different document to verify their accounts but that doesn't mean the casino doesn't knows because casino can check using the other ways to finds if you trick them.

I have the same thoughts about it - in the long run, you are cooked if you do really try to go into activities like that Grin Eventually, the truth comes out, and responsibility for it - too.

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August 29, 2024, 07:38:51 AM
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I do not see any good reason for them blocking multiple accounts in casino gambling by the casino platform because it has no negative effect to the platform. As long as those accounts do not go against the rules of the casino platform. They need more users and that is also part of getting new users into the system. The reason for banning multiple account in the Casino platform should be that they either violate the platform rules or cheat other users int he platform.

We'll creating or having two or multiple accounts should not be the reason why gambling sites choose to block accounts but yes sometimes some open multiple accounts to carry on illegal activities so I believe if it's in this perspective they ought to block more than one gambling accounts.

But nevertheless most people violate casinos rules and regulations, some don't even take time to read them to know what they are to do or not, so if such accounts violate the platform rules they shouldn't be exempted for blocking and banning permanently.
This things are occuring more often because they feel they can have their way through things before anyone is going into gambling you should be on the safer sides by reading terms and conditions so you'll not violate this rules.

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August 29, 2024, 07:55:43 AM
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The two account rule makes sense especially given that in most casinos you can register as a referral and the person who referred you keeps getting rewards based on how much you gambled. So especially for platforms that give a cut out of everything wagered or lost, this effectively means lower house edge advantage for them. With multi accounting this can be used against the casino, even more so with low house edge games it's an excessive risks.

I would say though it's kinda hypocritical that casinos enforce this rule sometimes to withhold big wins. At least they should close the account and teach a settlement with the punter to find an acceptable solution for both parties.

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August 29, 2024, 11:09:04 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling.

I always to curious to person that have more than one account in anything I mean what the purposes by having 2 account is there any benefit from it especially if you talk about gambling. Online casino might give a bonus to new user but with certain condition and mostly they need to top up and do bet for min amount.

By having 2 account is just pointless in my opinion

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August 29, 2024, 12:39:06 PM
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The two account rule makes sense especially given that in most casinos ...

I know the feeling, bro. Multi accounting can really mess things up, especially for those casinos that give rewards to the referrer based on how much you gamble. It's true, it can give an unfair advantage and mess with the house edge. But yeah, it does seem a bit two-faced for casinos to enforce this rule just when someone hits a big win. They should at least try to come to a fair agreement instead of just shutting down the account.

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August 29, 2024, 01:04:01 PM
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I think this is one crucial place where reading terms and conditions properly comes into play. I won't blame a lot of persons though because many people including gamblers usually ignore the idea of going through terms and conditions of gambling sites and casinos. Aside from reading it to prevent your account from being blocked like literally both accounts, sometimes the casinos may not take actions till the user hits a nice win or jackpot then boom they take actions of denying their withdrawal.
Some gamblers decide to create more than one account to have the ability to be able to place bets on both a VIP account and also a regular account but I really don't know why.

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August 29, 2024, 02:20:35 PM
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Nobody reads the Terms and conditions, even when repeated over and over again, not just in gambling but in any item consumerism.

However multiple accounts were commonly used in the past to take advantage of faucets and to abuse the faucet on primedice, eventually leading to its removal. Nowadays, I dont get the point of creating more than one account, maybe some criminals have been doing it for money laundering and hence the strict rules.

For law abiding users, I am curious to know what their reason for making more than one account is - dont give me that "unlucky curse on a certain username" concept, because its bogus.

 
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August 29, 2024, 07:01:55 PM
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I would say though it's kinda hypocritical that casinos enforce this rule sometimes to withhold big wins. At least they should close the account and teach a settlement with the punter to find an acceptable solution for both parties.

That's my problem with the casinos too as they mostly enforce this rules when someone has won a big sum from the casino. There are many other multi accounts but they aren't doing anything about them until they have a reason to denied a player of his win. They're being greedy because some gamblers won't know they have multi account because they have forgetting about them for many reasons. I have opened an account with a casino because of a giveaway I won and need my username to claim my price, after many years the casino became popular I wanted to gamble on their casino and can't remember my email or password hence I needed to create a new account with them. If I was to be lucky and win a large sum, they'll then use this rule of not having multi accounts to denied me of my money when I didn't do it Internationally but my side of the story won't be held then I lose.

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August 29, 2024, 07:15:20 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
I did make few accounts to places like bustabit, or what ever the original crash was, among other simple dice sites. But back then, people didn't take this so seriously. Nothing was regulated, and if they would have been, they wouldn't have got any customers. There was no usdt and everyone was playing with actual cryptos, so no one cared. And it's not like people would have benefited from double accounts anyway as sports betting with real bookies came later.

These days ToS is the first thing i am reading before even registering. I am not reading everything as that would be insane job with every casino, but few key points, and quickly skim if there's something odd or if they left sections out. Spelling errors and leaving stuff out while referencing them is usually is big enough red flag for me to stay away.

And one thing i am currently doing is revisiting ToS to find changes, as i have found out that some casinos seem to change their ToS without need of their customers to confirm that they accept the new ToS. So they can basically just throw in your country to restricted list without informing you, and when you finally get that big win, they can just close your account and keep the money. Because giving it to you would be against the law, and good luck fighting that in a court.

There are ton of other red flags as well, like when the ToS doesn't seem to fit to the casino. Like they would have bought a generic tos from a fiverr, or it would be done by chatgpt.

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August 29, 2024, 07:26:17 PM
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I would say though it's kinda hypocritical that casinos enforce this rule sometimes to withhold big wins. At least they should close the account and teach a settlement with the punter to find an acceptable solution for both parties.

That's my problem with the casinos too as they mostly enforce this rules when someone has won a big sum from the casino. There are many other multi accounts but they aren't doing anything about them until they have a reason to denied a player of his win. They're being greedy because some gamblers won't know they have multi account because they have forgetting about them for many reasons. I have opened an account with a casino because of a giveaway I won and need my username to claim my price, after many years the casino became popular I wanted to gamble on their casino and can't remember my email or password hence I needed to create a new account with them. If I was to be lucky and win a large sum, they'll then use this rule of not having multi accounts to denied me of my money when I didn't do it Internationally but my side of the story won't be held then I lose.
This would really be only happening into those casinos that arent that much popular or not known on which they would really be having those kind of shady requirement or enforcing KYC or possibly making up some issues
on the time that you would really be hitting up some jackpots or huge wins on which those reasons would really be keeping on piling up as if its obvious that they are really that trying out to not for you to be able to make those withdrawals. As for probabilities into those old and known sites then it could still actually happen because we've seen some platforms do still facing up some similar issues too but the good thing on dealing up with
reputable sites that it would really be that eventually getting that resolved out in compared into those new ones on which you cant really be having that assurance.

Most of platforms will really be that allowing 2 accounts or even more, just like been said by most people that as long you wont really be making use of those new accounts or other for the sake or purpose of cheating
or abuse then you should really be just that fine but if  you are doing it for cheating then expect that they would be locking up those accounts and the funds inside through it.
This is  why it would really be that important that making some self realizations on how things works and this is why it would really be that relevant on reading up TOS whenever you do
decide to gamble.

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August 29, 2024, 08:05:48 PM
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The two account rule makes sense especially given that in most casinos ...

I know the feeling, bro. Multi accounting can really mess things up, especially for those casinos that give rewards to the referrer based on how much you gamble. It's true, it can give an unfair advantage and mess with the house edge. But yeah, it does seem a bit two-faced for casinos to enforce this rule just when someone hits a big win. They should at least try to come to a fair agreement instead of just shutting down the account.


It's never black or white. Usually it's just like you said it.

On one hand users don't read ToS, abuse giveaways and free rolls and then when they get caught go public with accusations claiming they had no other accounts and the casino representatives are lying.

On the other hand, the casino knows they have 2 or more accounts but does nothing as long as the client keeps losing money. When he wins and tries to withdraw they bring up the VPN case, or multi accounting and deny payments.

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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.
It’s surprising to me, Why does anyone even need to have more than 1 account on a gambling site? What will the person be using the remaining accounts for? I think 1 account is just enough, you can place all your bets on 1 account, but I don’t know if there are other reasons why some people do decide to have more than 1 account on a gambling site, because I know that just 1 account can be used to place all your bets, no matter the amount that you decide to bet with. So having multiple accounts looks suspicious to me.

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August 29, 2024, 08:36:56 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling.

I always to curious to person that have more than one account in anything I mean what the purposes by having 2 account is there any benefit from it especially if you talk about gambling. Online casino might give a bonus to new user but with certain condition and mostly they need to top up and do bet for min amount.

By having 2 account is just pointless in my opinion
Maybe the goal is to test the luck of the accounts they have because both have different activity statuses, one of the goals may be that, if he feels that he is not lucky in his first account then he will try it in his second account, that's what I heard from my own friends, most likely like that.

For me it's hard if he pursues the VIP level where he has to spend twice the money to get priority at a casino and I think it's wasteful and unreasonable, whereas if he is unlucky in one session, just don't add to yourself so that you lose a lot of money by using two accounts.

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August 29, 2024, 09:00:20 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

I'm pretty sure that these type of "complaints" have been created in the scam section since the beginning of the forum and on other sites for far longer. It's almost universal, at least when monetary gain or loss is involved, that you should not expect to be able to create more than one account. The most obvious reason, besides following some basic common sense and conforming to the fairly reasonable terms that you agree to when signing up, is to avoid fraud. Many of these casinos and bookmakers will give a new account welcome bonus, so you always get people thinking it is possible to abuse those bonuses. However they often get caught out because there are many signals and obvious giveaways that can be used to catch these multiaccount makers.

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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling.

I always to curious to person that have more than one account in anything I mean what the purposes by having 2 account is there any benefit from it especially if you talk about gambling. Online casino might give a bonus to new user but with certain condition and mostly they need to top up and do bet for min amount.

By having 2 account is just pointless in my opinion

You can't really blame the players. Some casinos don't put the terms in their websites though this can't be an excuse of been ignorant as mostly casino are against the use of multi accounts but there are some casino that will allow multiple accounts and ignore the red flags from the users if they don't have much customer, they will do this and get customers they need before they unleash their rules and block all those multiple accounts for good.

The casino should ask make it a habit for letting users know, I mean the emails are there for something isn't it. Instead of spamming there customers with marketing offers and all other spot of gambling and encouraging their customers, they can use it to discourage their customers with the abuse of accounts but I guess some of the casino that does this don't really care about anything, they will be the ones that benefit since they get to hold the funds in those accounts.

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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling.

I always to curious to person that have more than one account in anything I mean what the purposes by having 2 account is there any benefit from it especially if you talk about gambling. Online casino might give a bonus to new user but with certain condition and mostly they need to top up and do bet for min amount.

By having 2 account is just pointless in my opinion

You can't really blame the players. Some casinos don't put the terms in their websites though this can't be an excuse of been ignorant as mostly casino are against the use of multi accounts but there are some casino that will allow multiple accounts and ignore the red flags from the users if they don't have much customer, they will do this and get customers they need before they unleash their rules and block all those multiple accounts for good.
As a gambler any casino that doesn't display it's terms and conditions of services it's provides it's sufficient to send a red flag message about such casino to avoid it by all means. How them would a gambler know when he's doing or has done what's contrary to the rules when he has no knowledge about what it looks like? There are certain flags we shouldn't ignore while using a casino, don't even try to manage the situation because at the end you're going to be the victim and they the victor as it's gonna be their words against you.

On a norm it doesn't feel right having multiple accounts in same casino, it's a general rule that almost every casino don't brace be it whether is clearly stated against it in their ToS or otherwise. 

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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

I also ask the same question on many gamblers that why do they have to open more than one account on a gambling platform, its more better to make a decision for doing this to several platforms than when we have only one in consideration, at least its not bad if we can select up to three gambling platforms instead of having three different accounts on the same platform, if we are to be in their own shoe as well, what could have come our mind for seeing such a behavior from gamblers.

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August 29, 2024, 10:09:36 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

If you are a careful gambler in any casino online, you have an attitude that should be done and that is to read the Tos of a gambling platform first. And when you confirm that the casino is legit and has a good reputation, there's no reason to create multiple accounts, right?

Others, because they are in a hurry to gamble, don't think to read the rules of dos and don'ts in a casino platform first, so usually in the end it gets blocked by something they didn't expect.

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August 29, 2024, 10:22:25 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

I also ask the same question on many gamblers that why do they have to open more than one account on a gambling platform, its more better to make a decision for doing this to several platforms than when we have only one in consideration, at least its not bad if we can select up to three gambling platforms instead of having three different accounts on the same platform, if we are to be in their own shoe as well, what could have come our mind for seeing such a behavior from gamblers.
What else will prompt a gambler to create duplicate accounts with thesame casino if not greed? They want to take advantage of bonuses, rewards and and all kinds of freebies meant for deserving gamblers. To my best of knowledge, casinos generally do not allow gamblers to create multiple accounts with them because such act means cheating. Most of these casinos clearly state these rules in their terms and conditions but gamblers who try to outsmart these casinos do not have the patience to read these rules. They only come out when there funds are withheld to call-out the casinos for treating them unjustly.

I just hope these gamblers will learn from their own mistakes and the mistakes of other gamblers. No one can outsmart the Casinos for too long.

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