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September 05, 2024, 11:44:39 AM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
I am not a gambler who spends 2x for 2 accounts. Because besides the risk of breaking the rules, it makes me very ambitious, it is better to be rational with 1 account and only need to make a deposit 1x. In addition, with the same casino, this is not an ideal way to take advantage, there will always be one loser.

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September 05, 2024, 09:14:25 PM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
I am not a gambler who spends 2x for 2 accounts. Because besides the risk of breaking the rules, it makes me very ambitious, it is better to be rational with 1 account and only need to make a deposit 1x. In addition, with the same casino, this is not an ideal way to take advantage, there will always be one loser.
Even myself does have this kind of impression on which on the time that i do play up gambling on any platform then i dont really like to create another account just for any other reason. There are indeed users who do make out some new account neither just because they do want on doing so whenever they got unlucky on a certain amount. Yes, there are gamblers whom i know to have this kind of beliefs that creating
new account will really be that might changing up their luck rate on which there's no solid proof that this works. lol. but well its their call since their their money to spend out so they do have the full rights on doing so.

The main thing that you should really be looking on this case is that you should really that make sure to yourself that you arent that violating any terms and conditions on which we know that when it comes to this aspect then it would really be that so hard to make out some reasoning on why you had created multi accounts or any violations that you had committed out with having that particular reason.

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September 05, 2024, 09:23:34 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

Perhaps some of these folks with two gambling accounts feel that perhaps it would give them an edge on the house if they could fool them they are two different entities. Why else would they make two accounts!? A husband and wife that gamble together on the same IP address or even off of the same device? I suppose it isn’t impossible.

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September 05, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

Perhaps some of these folks with two gambling accounts feel that perhaps it would give them an edge on the house if they could fool them they are two different entities. Why else would they make two accounts!? A husband and wife that gamble together on the same IP address or even off of the same device? I suppose it isn’t impossible.
I also think the hunger for getting more casino bonuses lure the cheating gamblers tho getting more than one accounts in order to enjoy these bonuses more than once.

That's cheating of course and should be punished. I am also of the opinion that the casinos should have the awareness against gambling from restricted regions and double accounts displayed body on the landing pages before you can register an account so that the gamblers who don't read terms and conditions would have a first-hand information of these regularly broken rules.











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September 05, 2024, 10:23:00 PM
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Never created several accounts in one casino because I have long known that this practice is not welcome, and not only in gambling. And frankly, I do not see the point in it, because in the pursuit of free bonuses the probability that you will make a mistake that will later lead to the loss of large winnings is very high. To lose a large winnings because of such a ridiculous mistake will be very frustrating. Therefore, do not use multiple accounts and follow the rules of the gambling site where you play gambling.

This should be the golden rule of opening an account with a casino or sportsbook. In no conditions should we open more than one account and if mistakenly we do that with or without fully knowing, you can report yourself to the customer care for one account to be closed before it causes you a fortune in the future.  By reporting yourself, you also have evidence of you trying to close one account incase you get denied access in the future. I can not imagine losing the money I won because of a silly mistake like this. Another one is to not register on a casino that does not allow registration from your country because they both have the same punishment. You can lose access to your account and this always happens when you have hit the jackpot.

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September 05, 2024, 10:33:38 PM
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Never created several accounts in one casino because I have long known that this practice is not welcome, and not only in gambling. And frankly, I do not see the point in it, because in the pursuit of free bonuses the probability that you will make a mistake that will later lead to the loss of large winnings is very high. To lose a large winnings because of such a ridiculous mistake will be very frustrating. Therefore, do not use multiple accounts and follow the rules of the gambling site where you play gambling.

We know for sure that creating multiple accounts is not the right thing to do because all gambling sites prohibit it. In fact, what if, for example, you have a friend with whom you shared a referral link where the IP address you used is? It's the same with the wifi provider he used because he just happened to visit your house and just connected to the wifi. Can it be considered a multiple account or a dummy?

I have already read this topic, and many people gave their opinions and divided their opinions. Sometimes,  because other gambling platforms also seem unfair, it is okay for them to make a deposit even if they see that you have done something wrong, and when they see that you will release money, then they will say that you have a violation. Isn't that unfair?

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September 05, 2024, 10:57:46 PM
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It's always important that we tey to Make out some times ro read some of this terms on thw sites, some of them do appear lengthy which turns out to become the excuse for which some persons don't want to read or go through them, but they have to suffer it in the long run of which they could have been able to prevent only by reading it before they started placing their bets on such platforms.

What I do most times is to make sure I skim through the term then I may come across some that may really catch my attention then I will quickly read them and sometimes they do help guies me so I don't default any of them at the end of the day.  Like op stated it's good to pay attention to this things as they may not matter untill you have got a huge payout to claim

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September 05, 2024, 11:51:24 PM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
I am not a gambler who spends 2x for 2 accounts. Because besides the risk of breaking the rules, it makes me very ambitious, it is better to be rational with 1 account and only need to make a deposit 1x. In addition, with the same casino, this is not an ideal way to take advantage, there will always be one loser.

It is better to make sure you are not violating any protocol of the site so you don't need to look over your shoulder every time you feel you are breaking some of their terms. If you want you can always create a new account to another casino or bookie and try to place bets that you feel will encounter your losses from the other site.

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September 05, 2024, 11:51:35 PM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using.
No one will read that.  Tongue

Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
If someone is a newbie and then it happened by accident, there's a possibility upon talking to the rep of the casino, they may be forgiven if there are no actions of abuse and cheating. But if someone has done that on a purpose, the casino will eventually know about that and there's no escape about that with any excuse. Those that are showing that they have a problem against the casino that they've played and have held their withdrawal, that is because they've been caught that they've done it with multiple accounts and has that initiation to really cheat the casino and system.

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September 05, 2024, 11:55:27 PM
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Op, if you have won with those accounts and you're about to withdraw it. There is for sure an stoppage for you by that casino because it is probably in their rules that only 1 account is allowed.
The rules would normally be like this, " 1 account per household".
Yeah, like that - no more no less.

But if all of those are losing, there's no problem for them with that thing because it is in their favor. To all of the scam accusations that don't admit their mistakes that they've done multi accounts.

The casino that they are accusing will still find it out. If they have really done something like that.
But they are just doing what they think would increase their profit. It may sound unfair, but at the end of the day, it's still our fault because we are not reading the TOS, hence we violated it without knowing.
Exactly.

They're a business so what can we expect if they're winning on their end as a business because that's the sole purpose. Some might have done honest mistakes but if it's an obvious thing, there's no excuse with that.

In general, our ignorance does not excuse us, so we have to pay for our mistake.
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Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.
How come having two or more account help to win more ? More accounts = more to deposit = more to lose, when chance to win is the same for every gambler. I can only understand if the situation was about users trying to cheat with welcome bonuses if there were any. But correct me if I am wrong, nobody now gives free bets or free spins just for a registration. I could understand if a person creates another account, because his first was banned, but it is a risky move, because chances for second account to be banned are increased. I can accept that someone create multiple accounts because he wants to get low level up bonuses, because wagering several thousands is always easy than, for example, wager from 50k to 100k to get free 10$. But that is also illogical. While trying to get $10, it easy to lose much more.
You are right, playing with more accounts at the same time will be the same as using much more money and losing more money, if gambler understands how gambling works with all the risks involved then I am sure they will not do something like that.
Only people who may have been desperate and tried to win more do it, but they will be able to realize that all that was mistake when they have felt the many losses that exist.

But for more precise reason, the prohibition on using multiple accounts or more than one account is about utilizing bonuses, and this can be condition that is detrimental to the casino.
For bonuses such as deposit bonuses and various other bonuses, those who like to hunt for bonuses will definitely complete them even though they are not bonuses that can be obtained for free.
In addition, the existence of weekly and monthly bonuses from VIP accounts is special attraction for those who like to chase bonuses, the requirements vary and of course they will use casinos with VIP account upgrade requirements that are quite easy to meet.

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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using.
No one will read that.  Tongue

Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
If someone is a newbie and then it happened by accident, there's a possibility upon talking to the rep of the casino, they may be forgiven if there are no actions of abuse and cheating. But if someone has done that on a purpose, the casino will eventually know about that and there's no escape about that with any excuse. Those that are showing that they have a problem against the casino that they've played and have held their withdrawal, that is because they've been caught that they've done it with multiple accounts and has that initiation to really cheat the casino and system.
99% of even 100% on which there would be no gambler will really be that willing to read up that whole pile of text on which it is really that something that will make you bored on doing so.
Somehow if you are really that serious on trying to look for those important information then you could really just that simply look out for specific information on which you could be able
to have such kind of awareness about on what are the things which are prohibited and which are allowed. Its not really that hard to spot out on which one is really that something not allowed.
Just like the rest been saying that people would really be that only reading up things on the moment that they are experiencing problems. On the moment that they are facing issues
then this is the time that they will really be that reading up those things.

Its really that important that you should really know the importance on reading up at least a bit of those information and this is something that you do really need to consider all the time.
We do know that when it comes to this aspect which people doesnt really learn up things not until they would really be able to experience shit conditions and this is where people do really
need to realize at least on what are the things that needs to avoid so that to have that no problems in the future.

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September 06, 2024, 04:07:26 AM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using.
No one will read that.  Tongue
99% of even 100% on which there would be no gambler will really be that willing to read up that whole pile of text on which it is really that something that will make you bored on doing so.
Somehow if you are really that serious on trying to look for those important information then you could really just that simply look out for specific information on which you could be able
to have such kind of awareness about on what are the things which are prohibited and which are allowed. Its not really that hard to spot out on which one is really that something not allowed.
It's fine to take a look and read a bit of it but no one really does that. It's not a document of ours that we own and that's why we feel that we're not obliged to read it.

Just like the rest been saying that people would really be that only reading up things on the moment that they are experiencing problems. On the moment that they are facing issues
then this is the time that they will really be that reading up those things.
This is for sure, we tend to read the guides and TOS and everything when we encounter a problem. And that's why most of the complains that we're seeing is all about the multi accounting which is in the books written. The violator should have understood that it's not allowed but still, continued to go on because they have not read the terms.

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September 06, 2024, 04:38:06 AM
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It is better to make sure you are not violating any protocol of the site so you don't need to look over your shoulder every time you feel you are breaking some of their terms. If you want you can always create a new account to another casino or bookie and try to place bets that you feel will encounter your losses from the other site.
I agree with you, it's better for us to break any site protocol and indeed if possible we should probably be able to read and understand the ToS of the casino we visit, even though this is relatively small or trivial but I think this is quite important, it's just that not all gamblers do this, maybe only gamblers who have a detailed nature of everything because I think most gamblers are reluctant and don't take the time for this.
Moreover, in my opinion having two accounts in one casino might be a violation, and also I think it won't be easy because on the other hand there could be KYC regulations which of course only apply to individuals, unless maybe two people have the same account in one casino and the other person gives their account to someone else, but when you get a win to do KYC there might be difficulties when making a withdrawal.

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September 06, 2024, 04:56:51 AM
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Never created several accounts in one casino because I have long known that this practice is not welcome, and not only in gambling. And frankly, I do not see the point in it, because in the pursuit of free bonuses the probability that you will make a mistake that will later lead to the loss of large winnings is very high. To lose a large winnings because of such a ridiculous mistake will be very frustrating. Therefore, do not use multiple accounts and follow the rules of the gambling site where you play gambling.

We know for sure that creating multiple accounts is not the right thing to do because all gambling sites prohibit it. In fact, what if, for example, you have a friend with whom you shared a referral link where the IP address you used is? It's the same with the wifi provider he used because he just happened to visit your house and just connected to the wifi. Can it be considered a multiple account or a dummy?

I have already read this topic, and many people gave their opinions and divided their opinions. Sometimes,  because other gambling platforms also seem unfair, it is okay for them to make a deposit even if they see that you have done something wrong, and when they see that you will release money, then they will say that you have a violation. Isn't that unfair?

I said above that this practice is considered an abuse because of the impossibility of establishing the truth of the matter.

After a casino user wins money, the security system automatically checks his account for possible abuse to eliminate problems with regulators, fraud, etc. Therefore, when you gamble from several accounts you do not have any problems. As soon as you win a large amount of money, the security system will immediately connect and begin the process of checking the account.

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September 06, 2024, 05:13:28 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
Even as tiring as it may be sometimes , reading of TOS of any gambling site is very much important because you never can tell what is fixed down there in their rules and regulations because some casino are just straight out crazy and you will be shocked although the fault will definitely be from you because you fail to get the terms of service and whatever penalty would suit as justice because it's something that has already been there to guide you not to make such error.

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September 06, 2024, 05:28:40 AM
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I agree with that, if they can take the time from the beginning to read and understand the ToS then maybe there won't be a problem but even with those who understand the ToS there are some who experience problems but it is better if we can take the time to understand the casino's terms and conditions or ToS first because we should also do that which aims to minimize problems when gambling because I am sure it is very uncomfortable to have problems when we are busy gambling. Having more than two accounts in one casino can be done, if the casino does not provide more detailed requirements such as KYC which requires facial recognition of players, but for casinos that submit KYC with one of them the player must go through a facial recognition process, maybe having two accounts in one casino cannot be done.
When people read and understand the ToS, they will know what they can and can not so they will not break the ToS because that can give problem to them. They will playing gambling with carefully and don't want to spend much time in gambling as gambling is only a way to have fun in their spare time. They know that having multiple account is prohibit so they will not create more accounts because the casino will know that easily. The casino have the data of all of their members and log file from all members so from that data, the casino can investigate everything and see the connection so casino will freeze or ban the accounts. If gamblers think that having multiple accounts will help them to win, that will not be right because casino is the last winner and will takes the money from the lose gamblers.

How come having two or more account help to win more ? More accounts = more to deposit = more to lose, when chance to win is the same for every gambler. I can only understand if the situation was about users trying to cheat with welcome bonuses if there were any. But correct me if I am wrong, nobody now gives free bets or free spins just for a registration. I could understand if a person creates another account, because his first was banned, but it is a risky move, because chances for second account to be banned are increased. I can accept that someone create multiple accounts because he wants to get low level up bonuses, because wagering several thousands is always easy than, for example, wager from 50k to 100k to get free 10$. But that is also illogical. While trying to get $10, it easy to lose much more.
As @ultrloa, @Adbitco, and @Hirose UK said, having multiple accounts can benefit gamblers especially in referral. They can get more amount as the reward if they use all of their account in different time. But casino will know and will investigate it furthermore to proves that they are not cheat the casino. They will use one account and playing gambling and they don't mind to deposit more money because they have a reason why they use multiple accounts. We never know what is their reason because those people will not telling clearly the goals. For us, that will not make sense but for them, that still make sense especially if they are often doing that in the other casinos. We just don't know how and what they will do.

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September 06, 2024, 05:38:25 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
Even as tiring as it may be sometimes , reading of TOS of any gambling site is very much important because you never can tell what is fixed down there in their rules and regulations because some casino are just straight out crazy and you will be shocked although the fault will definitely be from you because you fail to get the terms of service and whatever penalty would suit as justice because it's something that has already been there to guide you not to make such error.

I totally agree. It's your own responsibility to dig into the fine print that is given to you.
Some people just don't have the time/desire to do so, and sometimes, it leads to bad consequences.
It should be noted and talked about.

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September 06, 2024, 06:01:28 AM
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I agree with that, if they can take the time from the beginning to read and understand the ToS then maybe there won't be a problem but even with those who understand the ToS there are some who experience problems but it is better if we can take the time to understand the casino's terms and conditions or ToS first because we should also do that which aims to minimize problems when gambling because I am sure it is very uncomfortable to have problems when we are busy gambling. Having more than two accounts in one casino can be done, if the casino does not provide more detailed requirements such as KYC which requires facial recognition of players, but for casinos that submit KYC with one of them the player must go through a facial recognition process, maybe having two accounts in one casino cannot be done.
When people read and understand the ToS, they will know what they can and can not so they will not break the ToS because that can give problem to them. They will playing gambling with carefully and don't want to spend much time in gambling as gambling is only a way to have fun in their spare time. They know that having multiple account is prohibit so they will not create more accounts because the casino will know that easily. The casino have the data of all of their members and log file from all members so from that data, the casino can investigate everything and see the connection so casino will freeze or ban the accounts. If gamblers think that having multiple accounts will help them to win, that will not be right because casino is the last winner and will takes the money from the lose gamblers.
For those who do read the Tos first, they will likely understand the rules set by the casino and will not break them except with naughty people, but I think when they have read the Tos, they will not dare to break them. Because there will be problems too and of course it is something unpleasant and does not make us comfortable. Besides, I think it is impossible for a player to have two accounts in one casino, but I don't know for sure but I myself don't.
If there are players who think like that by having more than one account can make them win I think they are wrong, because it will not have any effect on gambling but it is clear that there may be problems and the casino can freeze both of their accounts because they have violated the casino rules that have been set.

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A user can open multiple accounts for gambling it is his personal matter but it is safe not to open multiple accounts from the same device. The mistake we make before making an account in gambling sites is that before making an account some conditions are given which we must read but without reading them we just click on the tick mark and sign up so what is written there but we  don't read. Many casino sites say that a user can only use a single account on a particular casino site when we do not read such conditions and create multiple accounts on that casino site without reading the conditions but our account may be suspended. So even if you are concerned about the security of your account, it is safer to use an account with one of our devices.

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