what are the excuses casino's use to withhold your legit winnings?

[AmoreJaz]

I agree reputable casinos often block withdrawal due to possible breaches of terms aside from KYC requirements.  Most I read where reputable casino block withdrawal is multi-accounting. geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

In short, if the casino is reputable - mostly it is because you violated one of their terms or you haven't completed their kyc yet. But if you already completed those, then, better ask the site why they are holding your winnings? A reputable one won't ruin their image by one complaint from their players.

It is different if the site is a known scammer, they will find so many reasons not to pay big winnings to their players. So if you believe you have no violations at all, it means, the site is scamming you and before they delete your record, better get all the snapshots that you think can help you when you file or publish your complaint. Lucky if the site has active thread here as people can help you out resolve your case.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

That's true, some players are already aware why their account got restricted but they create an accusation thread and act like they don't know their fault. Once a casino discovers that a player have violated their TOs, they rustic the account without giving any warning or without asking the player to withdraw the money in their balance.

[Russlenat]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?

They have countless tricks to scam you, which is why it's important to choose a reputable casino if you want to avoid problems in the future. Even reputable casinos might face these issues occasionally, but at least it's not rampant, allowing you to minimize the risk.

What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Post a scam accusation; they scammed you, so you can also damage their reputation. By sharing your experience, you can help others learn and make them aware to stay away from a scam casino. This way, you seek justice for what they've done to you.

[shield132]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Some casinos use KYC as an excuse to not let you withdraw your winnings. For example, imagine that you made a deposit, won a huge amount of money and want to withdraw, then casinos ask you to submit KYC because they think your funds are suspicious but in reality, they gamble with you with the hope that you'll give up on your winning because of KYC requirement. Sometimes, even when you submit KYC, they still make the withdrawal procedure very hard for you and ask for additional proofs, video calls and etc...
All of these usually get resolved when you open a scam accusation thread on Bitcointalk but in that case, the casino must be active here and should be oriented about their trust here.

Use trustworthy casino. Read the casino terms of service. Get verified first before you deposit. Do not have more than one account.

FortuneJack is considered to be a trustworthy casino but one user was complaining about not casino not letting him to get verified first before making a deposit.

[Akbarkoe]

geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

That's true, some players are already aware why their account got restricted but they create an accusation thread and act like they don't know their fault. Once a casino discovers that a player have violated their TOs, they rustic the account without giving any warning or without asking the player to withdraw the money in their balance.

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

[arwin100]

geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

That's true, some players are already aware why their account got restricted but they create an accusation thread and act like they don't know their fault. Once a casino discovers that a player have violated their TOs, they rustic the account without giving any warning or without asking the player to withdraw the money in their balance.

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

Its stated on TOS that those players located on restricted regions are not allowed to gamble in their casino. So with those cases they have nothing to complain since at first place it was written and they choose to take a risk then gamble. If there's written rule that they can confiscate the funds of the user who violate their rules then they cannot do anything with it. That's the reason how important to read the TOS so that they could able to see what is allowed and what are those thing has been restricted by those casino so they can avoid to have a issue with them.

If the gambler is not on restricted region but still they used it as reason then this is clear indication  that the casino is scam and don't really have any plans to pay those people who win huge from their casino.

[bitcampaign]

I agree reputable casinos often block withdrawal due to possible breaches of terms aside from KYC requirements.  Most I read where reputable casino block withdrawal is multi-accounting. geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

In short, if the casino is reputable - mostly it is because you violated one of their terms or you haven't completed their kyc yet. But if you already completed those, then, better ask the site why they are holding your winnings? A reputable one won't ruin their image by one complaint from their players.

It is different if the site is a known scammer, they will find so many reasons not to pay big winnings to their players. So if you believe you have no violations at all, it means, the site is scamming you and before they delete your record, better get all the snapshots that you think can help you when you file or publish your complaint. Lucky if the site has active thread here as people can help you out resolve your case.

It is true that if it is an official site, even the reasons given are very clear and even that often happens when doing KYC or in providing suspicious data can be the cause, but unlike sites that may not be too big, usually the reasons given are unreasonable and even make it difficult for users, and in the end end up blocking user funds and causing fraud or the like.

[Coin_trader]

geo location breaches since some players are to hard-headed even with the terms stating that their country is banned, they circumvent their location by using VPN and whine about the reputable casino not letting them withdraw.

If the casino is a scammer, there is no need for a reason, they just block the player and give false statements but often these scam casinos just don't bother.

That's true, some players are already aware why their account got restricted but they create an accusation thread and act like they don't know their fault. Once a casino discovers that a player have violated their TOs, they rustic the account without giving any warning or without asking the player to withdraw the money in their balance.

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

You just re-echo what the 2 user been discussing and pointed out above. Your post just stating the obvious here.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

This statement is valid but it’s easy to spot of the casino is telling the truth or not since they will be hesitant to provide supporting evidence about their claim for restrictions. Casino like scammer 1xbit usually just ignore the discussion once they are ask for evidence.

[Peanutswar]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

If you are playing with a reputable casino it seems you don't need to get worried that they will freeze your account but of course there's a possible reason behind on it, possible issues if that you will encounter of course if you haven't read their Terms and condition if you are an active gambler you want to make yourself safe too so its your rights to read those. Possible common issues of the accounts suspicious activity in different form, abusing the game, multiple account using same IP, and etc. If you think you didn't do anything wrong you don't need to worry. If you are playing a casino that has an existing ANN thread here you can easily reach out their representative with your concern but of course with an evidence.

[TribalBob]

from my experience, it is using a VPN where in my country there are many gambling sites that are restricted, so one time when I wanted to withdraw my winnings my account was restricted because I used a VPN when submitting an application to CS and I read from casino opinions on this forum on average On average, they don't recommend not using a VPN

[erep]

It is true that if it is an official site, even the reasons given are very clear and even that often happens when doing KYC or in providing suspicious data can be the cause, but unlike sites that may not be too big, usually the reasons given are unreasonable and even make it difficult for users, and in the end end up blocking user funds and causing fraud or the like.

Official casinos will not look for user errors to freeze assets or other things without clear reasons that are detrimental to users, official casinos will consistently implement the rules of conditions and requirements as important indicators to provide the best service to users. However, bad reputation casinos as you have explained above, they have hidden rules to blame user activities and they will complicate KYC verification such as asking for passport data, manipulating games, and others, so we must be wise in choosing a top reputation casino that has been recommended in the list that has been posted on the thread on this board.

[Akbarkoe]

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

You just re-echo what the 2 user been discussing and pointed out above. Your post just stating the obvious here.

Sometimes in argumentation it is necessary to have affirmation from many parties to strengthen an argument to ensure its credibility.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

This statement is valid but it’s easy to spot of the casino is telling the truth or not since they will be hesitant to provide supporting evidence about their claim for restrictions. Casino like scammer 1xbit usually just ignore the discussion once they are ask for evidence.

It may be easy to know, but users will find it difficult to determine and get confirmation of cases, if there are not many cases piling up, we experience together 1xbit not a few people who experience the same thing even though there are people who have complained about the same problem first and there is evidence.

Sometimes we also see that a case is delayed or in his language “under review and takes time” so that many of the same things happen.

[Coin_trader]

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

You just re-echo what the 2 user been discussing and pointed out above. Your post just stating the obvious here.

Sometimes in argumentation it is necessary to have affirmation from many parties to strengthen an argument to ensure its credibility.

But there’s no argument on the conversation that quote. Both of them agreed and come up to the same point which you reply. No need to prolong it here as this is the common spam on gambling discussion. I’m just suggesting to avoid it since this is the common comment for Stake sig participants.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

This statement is valid but it’s easy to spot of the casino is telling the truth or not since they will be hesitant to provide supporting evidence about their claim for restrictions. Casino like scammer 1xbit usually just ignore the discussion once they are ask for evidence.

It may be easy to know, but users will find it difficult to determine and get confirmation of cases, if there are not many cases piling up, we experience together 1xbit not a few people who experience the same thing even though there are people who have complained about the same problem first and there is evidence.

Sometimes we also see that a case is delayed or in his language “under review and takes time” so that many of the same things happen.

Not really, Reputable casino always deal the issue promptly especially on case like this that requires validation on their side. Do hang out regularly on scam accusation board to witness it personally.

[Franctoshi]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Me, particularly I haven't had any personal experience with any casino platform out there withholding my funds, but I have heard of my friends funds withheld story but basically because of KYC because during initially of registration, this particular casino site wasn't demanding/didn't demand any documents from him as of the time of his registration with the site, but later asked him to provide his identification documents when they saw he had won a huge amount of money.

[livingfree]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

I have not experienced any problems like this from any casino that I have gambled. They're all genuine and quick, and that's why I have nothing to say if it's about my experience.

But with those that I have read about their accusations to the casinos, first of all, the users are mostly the problems with what they're throwing to the casino. It's either they have broken a rule like multi accounting or have done any other rule that's against the casino.

Some are genuine with the users that have accused the casinos and what the casinos are doing is they delay the withdrawal and does a lot of verification before releasing the outright winning of those users.

[BABY SHOES]

If the casino is legit then there are no sneaky tricks, unless the casino is a scam then sneaky tricks will be used.

When the casino holds your winnings and suspects your activities, the casino will ask the slot provider whether your winnings are valid or not, and after that you will be required KYC to redeem your winnings, usually the casino will take a long time with the investigation.

I am sure that a reputable casino will not withhold your winnings for no reason, so read the TOS in the casino so as to avoid unwanted problems.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In short, if the casino is reputable - mostly it is because you violated one of their terms or you haven't completed their kyc yet. But if you already completed those, then, better ask the site why they are holding your winnings? A reputable one won't ruin their image by one complaint from their players.

It is very true that statement, when we play in a casino that is 100% reliable , a casino is not going to throw dirty water for an amount that we say is small or not so high, no matter how bad they are, they will not do it , now, where I have come across casinos that are a fraud and are a scam, the first indication is when they say that the withdrawals are manual, there when they say that I totally walk away and never come back, and I think that is the excuse of a casino when it is seen that it is going to scam.

[Wiwo]

In short, if the casino is reputable - mostly it is because you violated one of their terms or you haven't completed their kyc yet. But if you already completed those, then, better ask the site why they are holding your winnings? A reputable one won't ruin their image by one complaint from their players.

It is very true that statement, when we play in a casino that is 100% reliable , a casino is not going to throw dirty water for an amount that we say is small or not so high, no matter how bad they are, they will not do it , now, where I have come across casinos that are a fraud and are a scam, the first indication is when they say that the withdrawals are manual, there when they say that I totally walk away and never come back, and I think that is the excuse of a casino when it is seen that it is going to scam.

Most times, when gambling site withhold player's money it's either the gambler have indeed committed an offense such as violation of the casino site or the gambling site itself is a fraud, although in most cases the gambler is guilty, because sometime when gamblers complain about blocked account with funds in it, they will not explain the part that they did wrong and try to just pant themselves as innocent.

Although we have 1xbit which is a known scam casino and they way of operation is by selectively block accounts of gamblers that won big amount.

[uneng]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

One of the main tricks is to claim you are scamming them, even if you aren't. They can demand KYC from you, and then keep rejecting it always you send your personal documents, or they can claim you are using multiple accounts on the platform to take advantage from it. When a casino wants to play dirty with players, they will always find an excuse to difficult the whole process and never let the gambler withdraw his funds. That is why casinos which such histories must be avoided at all costs by gamblers.

And in case you face a situation like that, I fear you have to be patient and follow all their instructions, while creating and sharing the situation in a public thread on this forum, for an example, so other members will also pressure the casino to solve the situation as faster as possible. This strategy can work, because the casino will fear to lose their reputation, so they will feel forced to not create any further issues with the withdrawal requirement.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

But that case is not a fraud committed by the Casino because basically the wrong person is the gambler, they are too forced to gamble without reading the rules in the casino, it is a clear case if the casino does not pay them.

But this method may also be done by fraudulent casinos where no restrictions are violated by users but they block user accounts when making withdrawals and do not provide any explanation to consumers, it is definitely a fraudulent casino.

You probably can not tell if the player is lying or not after they must have come up with a cooked up story to act innocent and accuse the casino of committing fraud while they were the one that committed the bad act. The forum doesn't judge blindly and before they condemn any casino, it must have been proven beyond every reasonable doubt that the casino is bad.