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August 27, 2024, 07:59:26 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2024, 08:13:04 PM by Lanatsa
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Is that not self-Exclusion?

Its a great idea and its easy for non addicted people and gamblers to to such a act but I suspect
it would be harder if not all together impossible for someone addicted and who are chasing
losses to pull the plug so to say and opt for total Exclusion.

Also I think this is possible in a physical establishment but more difficult to do online because the
person can just open a second account when they feel they need to get back to gambling.
This is what im trying to say too on which this do turn out to be self-exclusion considering that you are really that excluding  yourself on going into these places or even on platforms or any place on which you dont really want for them to let you enter. This isnt really that inclusion on what OP is really that talking because if we do really tend to understand the whole context then it would really be clearly talks "exclusion" on this aspect.
So it would really be just that understandable that if you would really be not liking for those places to let you enter then all you do need to do is having some request or asking them and they would granting it out.
When it comes to this kind of situation then only a few could really be able to mind off about their condition specially on the time that they are really that playing gambling. Some would be aware that they are already losing that much and they've been dealing or involving with it for longer hours and make up some those unbalanced way of living then it would be impossible that you cant be able to notice it out. Just like been said by others that only a few would really be able to do such thing because we do know that not all would really be that good when it comes to self control and turned out to be blinded by greed on the time that they would be playing gambling. One of the most common problem for most gamblers is that they could be able to stop on the time that they are losing that much. This is indeed the main issue.

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August 27, 2024, 08:18:02 PM
 #42

Self excluding oneself is not a bad thing, as it's literally a feature which helps us to gamble responsibly. So judging from this scenario about him requesting the physical casino to exclude him from coming to gamble as usual, does it mean he/she also excluded himself from online casinos too? Because with the high rate at which people gamble comfortably from the comfort of their homes through the help of internet devices (i.e smartphone & laptops), it will be very unfair and of no use if the person in question only excluded himself from just only physical casino, while he is still having access to online casinos for gambling. Hence, for self exclusion to be effective, one needs to self exclude himself from all channels.


However, in response to the topic, if I was to be in his shoe of winning big, like a million dollar or half, I will definitely take a break from gambling, but that doesn't mean I'm going to openly self exclude myself. Because the best kind of self excluded is the one done within oneself (i.e personal willingfull adjustment of character and behavior), and not what's done publicly.

 
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August 27, 2024, 08:18:58 PM
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You can exclude yourself from becoming addicted like them, but this question may not be relevant for for those who are gamblers.
Any gambler may need to stop gambling when they no longer see gambling as entertainment. Gambling is not for earning income that they can win regularly, meaning they should gamble to entertain themselves and not for money.

If gambling is to entertain yourself, then you don't need to exclude yourself that strictly because of course you know how to do it responsibly. But if you basically don't want to be addicted, then don't even approach gambling from day one.

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August 27, 2024, 08:24:43 PM
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The concept of self-inclusion is smart, but with enough willpower, someone can easily bypass it. If the story you mentioned is a true event, choosing to be banned from the casino on purpose is a clever way to avoid being tempted to go back in, and I would personally do it myself. It's inevitable for someone who's won the jackpot with just a dollar to not think about going back to try their luck again, a few dollars at a time. We all know how easy it is to get carried away, and losing what you've earned can happen in the blink of an eye.

It still is a relatively safe way to protect yourself, but should you want to gamble again, you'll find ways to bypass it if you're desperate.

 
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August 27, 2024, 09:01:13 PM
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The concept of self-inclusion is smart, but with enough willpower, someone can easily bypass it. If the story you mentioned is a true event, choosing to be banned from the casino on purpose is a clever way to avoid being tempted to go back in, and I would personally do it myself. It's inevitable for someone who's won the jackpot with just a dollar to not think about going back to try their luck again, a few dollars at a time. We all know how easy it is to get carried away, and losing what you've earned can happen in the blink of an eye.

It still is a relatively safe way to protect yourself, but should you want to gamble again, you'll find ways to bypass it if you're desperate.
While reading your comments above, I then realized that it can be hard for a gambler to self exclude them self from an online gambling site. Because in most casino sites, after excluding yourself from the casino you can also contact the casino to unlock your bet account through the customer care service. Meanwhile on physical casinos, since you have excluded yourself from gambling on the casino I am not sure that you can gamble on that same casino unless you visit another casino. Although few casinos that are looking forward for customers might still allow the gambler.

 
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August 27, 2024, 09:06:18 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2024, 09:25:20 PM by AmoreJaz
 #46

The concept of self-inclusion is smart, but with enough willpower, someone can easily bypass it. If the story you mentioned is a true event, choosing to be banned from the casino on purpose is a clever way to avoid being tempted to go back in, and I would personally do it myself. It's inevitable for someone who's won the jackpot with just a dollar to not think about going back to try their luck again, a few dollars at a time. We all know how easy it is to get carried away, and losing what you've earned can happen in the blink of an eye.

It still is a relatively safe way to protect yourself, but should you want to gamble again, you'll find ways to bypass it if you're desperate.

If the person has indeed the desire to play, he will find alternative options on how to play and where to play. Though self-inclusion is one way to prevent further addiction, but at the end of the day, it is still the person who can really discipline himself from getting out of his restrictions.
Other ways that he can do to prevent from getting addicted : allocate budget per period, once depleted - need to stop and wait for another period, look for other activities such as hobbies that will divert your attention from gambling - this will occupy your free time other than playing games.

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August 27, 2024, 09:17:38 PM
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The fact is - many of the users here are gambling addicts regardless of whether they have a severe, moderate or normal addiction. After all - most of them are participant in gambling campaign, so self-exclusion as you ask is unlikely to be done by them. As long as gambling is profitable for them - then no exclusion is expected, meaning they will continue their gambling activities.

Self-exclusion is certainly necessary if you really do not want to be involved in gambling anymore. This means that you have really wanted to forget about gambling. Self-exclusion is also necessary for those who are undergoing a gambling addiction rehabilitation process - of course this is recommended by experts.

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August 27, 2024, 09:35:47 PM
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I would never willingly put my own responsibility in the hands of others and especially wouldn’t rely on it as a way to control my behavior. This sounds like some seriously mentally weak shit right here. I don’t know why people with addictions can’t just take responsibility for their actions. Some people just want to be deadbeats. No amount of help can change them. They have to want to change.

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Everybody knows what's best for them, gambling is a choice and the choices you make in gambling is in your own basic interest, so it's wise you make the best. That decision is his best since he knows he's kinda prone to over gambling if he continues going to the casino, hence putting an end to possible addiction before it even begun.

You can go extreme to protect yourself from the adverse effect of gambling if you know you're not emotionally strong to curb the excesses of gambling, it's advised that if your emotional strength is low, then don't gamble

For myself placing a ban isn't the best and I rarely, if at all visit physical casinos for some time now, I placed a ban on myself from visiting physical casinos . It's better online for me.














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I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Wow, this is the first time I'm coming across such idea of giving yourself a ban from a casino. Well it will definitely be a good idea for someone who really wants to change and not spend too much in gambling even when the temptation seem to be much. With such practice and determination its possible he might get to a level where he no longer need a ban on himself before he can gamble responsibly. I also know of a friend whom after winning in gambling, he make a fixed  deposit to a banking institution and locks the money for a duration of time, and that has been helping him. Any strategy that works best to a gambler in trying to avoid addition or irresponsible gambling should be applied because gamble can sometimes be tricky and mess with our emotions.
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And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

This is actually very hard for some gamblers, not everyone can do it but there is an option in casino where you can just deactivate your account and you are good to go and it wouldn't open again until the said time or duration has reach before the allow you to activate back the account. If an addicted gambler is serious about his self control, he will do this ASAP and practice lowkey way so he doesn't get Called out again.

Another option I think a gambler can do about all this is to get their self occupied by many work as possible. I have not seeing a gambler that will play a game in a casino the whole day. Used your time very well and do your thing, you will become a responsible casino person unless you don't do anything and you see gambling as way of making money.

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I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
There was a time when I was almost addicted to gambling most especially on sport bets and at that point I was going all in to target the bigger amount of winning and each time I try to stake high amount so that the outcome could be Worth it, but each time, I keep losing and almost going insane.


But since is an online casinos and I see the self exclusion feature on the said casin, I just decided to get myself excluded from the casino without any space to get back, so yes I have experienced this before and it helps a lot.

 
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I don't know what might happen in the nearest future but if it needs for me to do a self exclusion then all I am going to do is that choice. If it all it takes for me to get self excluded then I'll do that if I am too much and there's no way for me to stop. But so far, I am good and I can control myself and whenever I hit a jackpot, I am for sure going to spend that money first and won't allow the casino to take it back without me spending it first to anything that I wish to spend it to.

Another option I think a gambler can do about all this is to get their self occupied by many work as possible. I have not seeing a gambler that will play a game in a casino the whole day. Used your time very well and do your thing, you will become a responsible casino person unless you don't do anything and you see gambling as way of making money.
That's one way to get busy. All you have to do is to make yourself busy from the real world things that you do. Whether you go to the physical casino or online casino and you want to get stopped, do something for yourself and make not notice of it that you're able to skip gambling because of those activities that you do in real life.

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So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
Yes, I'm willing to do whatever it will take to keep myself from getting addicted to the game. One thing about winning big in most cases is that we might be tempted to go and try out our luck over and over again, and without self-control, the person can end up losing all that big win back to the casino again, so if leaving close to the casino scam attracts the person to visit their every day by day, the best thing to do is to either self-exclude himself from the casino or they should just relocate from that environment.

 
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So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Well, I am willing to self-exclude myself from gambling if that will save me from being a gambling addict.  But as much as I can, I will not make myself to go as far as that.  As much as possible I will implement responsible gambling on my gambling activity.  It is said that prevention is better than cure so I would rather discipline myself than to be in a situation where I have to exercise self-exclusion.


Another option I think a gambler can do about all this is to get their self occupied by many work as possible. I have not seeing a gambler that will play a game in a casino the whole day. Used your time very well and do your thing, you will become a responsible casino person unless you don't do anything and you see gambling as way of making money.

If one is hooked to gambling it is quite hard to divert one attention away from gambling because of the uncontrollable urge.  I still think seeking medical help is the best way to cure addiction, if the person fails to gamble responsibly and gets addicted.

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August 27, 2024, 11:41:24 PM
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So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
yeah, I would want to self-exclude in order to protect myself from going back to the casino and possibly getting addicted If I knew I couldn't control myself stopping to gamble all by myself. the guy on your post seems to be a responsible guy and wanted to make sure he doesn't end up addicted like his friends or his families. let's just hope he doesn't get attracted to online casinos.

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August 27, 2024, 11:56:32 PM
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And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
This is really not necessary if you ask me. One should be able to control himself and what he does with his time and money rather than going to the extent of requesting to be banned from gambling. I know there can be some pressures or forces that seems hard to deal with but one should make effort to develop that self control because it is highly needed in life and not only in gambling. Addiction can be fought in better ways and not through these mechanical ways that are not sustainable.











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August 27, 2024, 11:59:22 PM
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So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
Yes of course, I would do everything within my powers to get myself safe from becoming an addict which self exclusion is one of the things would do as long as it works for me not to get addicted to any kind of gambling habits because once you get addicted it becomes very hard to leave such habits.

OP what the person in the story did is the best thing anyone can do to help themselves especially when you know that people around you already got involved in what you are preventing yourself from becoming so you must do all that it takes even it takes you to get banned from all casino so you don't go there anymore it's still a good idea.
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I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Self-exclusion works if you are not yet an addicted gambler and need "tools" to overcome the temptation to gamble in a place whenever you have the opportunity.

However, keep in mind that this alone will not prevent you from giving in to temptation, as the desire to gamble may be so great that even though you are "blocked" at the casino near your home, you may get home and open your computer to play at an online casino, spending much more time and money than if you had gone to the physical casino near your home.

In other words... self-exclusion can help a lot, but self-awareness is much more important and essential for those who want to maintain healthy gambling habits.

Sometimes it is better to allow yourself to gamble and do so consciously, than to hold back this desire and at a certain point "blow up" your bank account balance in a few hours due to a withdrawal crisis.

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So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Yeah why not, I think this is a good idea for some and maybe they are thinking ahead of time. As I have remembered we have a thread that is something that if you win the jackpot it could be the start of the curse for you.

So in anticipation, this person decided to go to the casinos and avail of this self inclusion so in the future, he is not going to be addicted. This could be true for some online casinos as well, but there are a lot of crypto based platform, but I guess this is going to be effective in the end.

 
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