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August 29, 2024, 11:08:18 AM
Last edit: August 29, 2024, 11:31:17 AM by Squaremile777
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.

The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world.
We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.

Even tho you working at the Job the goverment should always guarantee for you no matter what you have food and housing what ever you work yourself that's for extra.
I belive it's all possible with AI and with more automated world when robots can produce a lot things cheaper and way faster then human workers.

Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.

Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.

So If robots and ai machines coming then it could be possible that goverments can support us fully no matter what right now there is too much money chasing by everybody and person don't put his energy nowhere else then just chasing the money it's like the shadow you never catch that If goverment become on full aid for people then many people can live without that fear that they not getting enough money and people can focus on their talents skills energy and time to be more creative and useful for society instead of just chasing the money.
Maybe it's even ban money for indviduals and instead of money you get "tokens for food travel and clothing "
Im sure If we eliminate use of money people will be less evil and more happy also the fact that you own something and i don't own it's unfair and If your life is better by luck that you had maybe some wealthy parents so you live better life that's unfair and it's not based on person own merits in society....maybe it's better If nobody owns nothing or If they own that would very very exdronary case

Im not sure but it seems that Kamala Harris moving on that direction slowly.
Also the state of California in USA.


I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have.
It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them.
We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
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August 29, 2024, 11:16:37 AM
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The government has to spend money in order to provide us food and housing. There are two ways for the government to get money.
1.Money printing by the central bank. This leads to hyperinflation.
2.Taxes and government debt. The government needs to gather taxes from the people and businesses. If you want the government to give you something, you will have to be willing to pay higher taxes. Nothing comes for free in this reality.
Money is a necessary evil because the economy needs a medium of exchange and a store of value. Going back to barter deals is not an option.
Life has always been stressful for the majority of the people. The economic system doesn't matter. Do you think that people, who were living in a feudal or a slave-owning system were less stressed out?

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The saying "money is the root of all evil" suggests that the pursuit of wealth can lead to unethical behavior & moral corruption. Money itself is a neutral tool but its misuse can generate greed, fear & conflict. Fear often arises from scarcity as people worry about losing their financial stability or compare themselves to others. Money can actually facilitate good, enabling positive change & support for communities. At the end of the day it's the values & choices of individuals that determine whether money leads to negative or positive outcomes.

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August 29, 2024, 12:16:26 PM
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The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world.
We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.
it requires money to live comfortably in today's world. If the government had assisted in setting up the right system in place so that you don't need to think too much about what will happen if you cease to work in your current job worry too much when things become a bit deficult for you, it would have been much better.

Money is not the root of all evil but rather, the love for too much money is the root of evil. When you make it look like you must acquire wealth by all means, it's at that point that evil thought starts springing in your mind and you can then go on to execute all the unthinkable tendencies that's in your mind just to make money. The government has a role to play in making life more easy and comfortable so you don't leave your life as though it's all about making money but if you build the right foundation and get the necessary skills, you will make easy money and wouldn't have to rely on the amenities the government can give you as an aid that will lessen the load of making money by all means.

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August 29, 2024, 12:33:38 PM
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It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them.
We do lose sense of humanity more and more.

This situation occurs everywhere and I admit that the sense of sociality in society is fading day by day. Even hospital services that are required to provide services regardless of rich or poor status are no longer valid because the government itself implements a service system of stages 1, 2, and 3 which ultimately results in differentiated views and actions.

Is the point that we or society in general have been enslaved by money and money has now become their god because they are pursuing social status in order to be considered to have honor and special treatment? The root of the problem is not money but where we place money as its status in life. I don't want to be hypocritical about money but at least until now I realize that money is not the only thing that determines the status of people, especially those around us, but this is about our social soul which must continue to be maintained.

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August 29, 2024, 12:42:19 PM
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You are not an alt account of Fullbear777 are you?

This post looks a lot like it was written by him.

But anyway, well wars are not fought over money, they are fought over natural resources. The money itself is controlled by a clique of people who run the banks and they lend it to countries who want money to finance their wars. The people at the bottom of the pyramid get scraps, and most of the times have a hard time getting up on their feet.

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August 29, 2024, 12:51:12 PM
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When you make it look like you must acquire wealth by all means, it's at that point that evil thought starts springing in your mind and you can then go on to execute all the unthinkable tendencies that's in your mind just to make money.

I'm not sure about this. Chances are that evil was already there, and acquiring wealth by all means is simply one of the multiple expressions of it. And what would be the germ of that behaviour? Biology? Culture? perhaps a mix of both, but I think that it is clear that if you live in a place where you receive constant impacts showing you that success comes from having more wealth than others, no matter how you made it, you may not even consider that different alternatives are possible.

About sharing everything and not owning a thing, that's one of communism's pillars and it didn't work, but it was even worse in terms of freedom and violation of other rights.

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August 29, 2024, 02:12:51 PM
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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have.
It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them.
We do lose sense of humanity more and more.

What you are requesting could be very hard to implement or do per say, because the government can't take care of the masses although they can create employment opportunities where people go work and received their minimum and maximum wages. Talking of AI, yes they help to do some work but I don't they can be so perfect where they can do everything humans is needed in life although they can only reduce human work. You know if government keeps providing everything you would see that the poor rate would increase the more because they are solely relying on government to fixed up every little thing. Like you know already even from the creator you will see that not everyone got Rich or become successful wealthy, and then government weren't also taking care of everyone instead they could build hospital for free medical center where they would provide every necessary things needed to run human life.

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August 29, 2024, 02:16:58 PM
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.

The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world.
We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.

Even tho you working at the Job the goverment should always guarantee for you no matter what you have food and housing what ever you work yourself that's for extra.
I belive it's all possible with AI and with more automated world when robots can produce a lot things cheaper and way faster then human workers.

Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.

Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.

So If robots and ai machines coming then it could be possible that goverments can support us fully no matter what right now there is too much money chasing by everybody and person don't put his energy nowhere else then just chasing the money it's like the shadow you never catch that If goverment become on full aid for people then many people can live without that fear that they not getting enough money and people can focus on their talents skills energy and time to be more creative and useful for society instead of just chasing the money.
Maybe it's even ban money for indviduals and instead of money you get "tokens for food travel and clothing "
Im sure If we eliminate use of money people will be less evil and more happy also the fact that you own something and i don't own it's unfair and If your life is better by luck that you had maybe some wealthy parents so you live better life that's unfair and it's not based on person own merits in society....maybe it's better If nobody owns nothing or If they own that would very very exdronary case

Im not sure but it seems that Kamala Harris moving on that direction slowly.
Also the state of California in USA.


I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have.
It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them.
We do lose sense of humanity more and more.


The reason why a lot of people say that money is the root of all evil is because of what is going on in our society today, people are getting involved in so much atrocities just to get wealth. In my country we see how politicians get corrupt because they just want to keep those money for themselves. The phrase"money is the root of all evil" isn't entirely correct because money can do a lot of good. Trying to get it the wrong way out of desperation is what makes it evil. Don't stain your hands just because you want to make quick money, focus on whatever it is you are doing and be patient

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August 29, 2024, 03:18:20 PM
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
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In order for money not to be “the evil and the crown of all evil,” one must learn how to use it.
Money is just a tool, an essence.
Once people were afraid of fire. Then they realized how to get it and how to control it. Some began to use it to cook food, to heat their homes. Others to burn forests and other people's homes.... And so it is with money - for some it's a master, for some it's the purpose of life, for some it's an asset for which they would do anything... And there are those who use it for development, for investment, for increasing their capital.

Evil is the people themselves who use some solutions for evil, although they can use them for good.

PS And the task to dreamers about moneyless system of building society: model how the world and your life will look like if you remove the measure of value in the form of money ? Smiley




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August 29, 2024, 05:28:00 PM
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The saying "money is the root of all evil" suggests that the pursuit of wealth can lead to unethical behavior & moral corruption. Money itself is a neutral tool but its misuse can generate greed, fear & conflict. Fear often arises from scarcity as people worry about losing their financial stability or compare themselves to others. Money can actually facilitate good, enabling positive change & support for communities. At the end of the day it's the values & choices of individuals that determine whether money leads to negative or positive outcomes.
More precisely, the love of money is the root of all evil. Money is just a physical form of value, the value that humans give to money gives it the value they think it has, money is just a piece of paper or metal. Having it is fun, it helps us to get the things we need in life, but to be honest we will also suffer if we live without it. So, look for money to meet all needs, do not consider money as everything, let alone greed and love with money because it will lead us to evil because the root of all evil is love for Money.

Hopefully we all do not love money more than anything, including God. Because it will have a bad impact on ourselves. We all need money, but the definition of love for money is justifying all means to get money.
If money did not exist, money would not be a problem. We would all be equal. But in today's era that is impossible, because we all need money to live.

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August 29, 2024, 05:32:18 PM
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Yes we have all know this for most of our lives.

Look at all the wars and everything happening out there, what is the main root cause? Money obviously.

Many people get addicted to gambling because they want more money but instead of gaining money they usually end up losing their money and it makes their lives worse. People become jealous of others who have more money and they become depressed. They are jealous of people with bigger homes and luxury cars but many of those people are in debt for life. Money basically controls peoples lives. And that is why its the root of all evil pretty much.

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August 29, 2024, 05:42:59 PM
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Yes we have all know this for most of our lives.

Look at all the wars and everything happening out there, what is the main root cause? Money obviously.

Many people get addicted to gambling because they want more money but instead of gaining money they usually end up losing their money and it makes their lives worse. People become jealous of others who have more money and they become depressed. They are jealous of people with bigger homes and luxury cars but many of those people are in debt for life. Money basically controls peoples lives. And that is why its the root of all evil pretty much.

It's true, as you said, money is everything to us, when we don't have money it will also have a big impact on our minds, where our minds are confused due to not having money, what we do but don't make money for us, while our daily needs are days are not fulfilled, at times like that don't ever think about bad things, don't think you're reckless in doing a despicable job.

When we have a lot of money, we should never feel arrogant and arrogant, we see a lot of things when someone has a lot of money, they feel like they are the greatest, that's why money is the source of all problems, it depends on us how to manage it well so that we don't become arrogant and haughty person.

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More precisely, the love of money is the root of all evil.
Yes and according to the scriptures where this quote has come from it is the love of money and not money itself because the same Bible also says that money answers all things. Money is good, but the danger is in loving it too much and being so obsessed with it that you do not care the means you take to get it. When you love money too much, it will not be difficult for you to be involved with crime or illegal activities just to make sure you make money not minding the consequences on yourself or others.

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August 29, 2024, 10:40:11 PM
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More precisely, the love of money is the root of all evil.
Yes and according to the scriptures where this quote has come from it is the love of money and not money itself because the same Bible also says that money answers all things. Money is good, but the danger is in loving it too much and being so obsessed with it that you do not care the means you take to get it. When you love money too much, it will not be difficult for you to be involved with crime or illegal activities just to make sure you make money not minding the consequences on yourself or others.

How do you define love of money?
Sometimes we just use these words and not really place a concrete definition to it which would in some way, help people know when they are loving it in a way that could apply to this context.

Love of money simply puts for me; those things that you would do, which are not justifiable by nature, conscience and can put the life’s of other persons at risk. Once your about that with money, you really could be living it in a way that leads to evil.

Otherwise, you just need to live it to have it I would say but that has to be in a way that, is contrary to my definition.

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Money is not the root of all evil but rather, the love for too much money is the root of evil.
This is always the argument that I see at most times, they're telling that it is money that's the root of evil. But the bible says that it is the love for it that makes it evil.

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Because if someone says that it is money alone that's the root of evil, then no one does need money. But the greed that someone possesses because of the love for it can make that person do such things that we cannot imagine.

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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.

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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.

Do people create money or does money create people? You are right, money or bitcoin...any asset is inanimate, they are just tools created and used by humans, and using them for good or bad is up to each person. Therefore they are not the root of evil.
To put it bluntly, human thinking and behavior are the root of everything. Human is the root of all evil in this world but they dare not admit it and always find ways to blame whatever they see.


I dare say that if everyone could control their greed, not be jealous or envious of each other, there would be no more evil in this world. But that is just a hypothesis that never happens because human nature is greedy, jealous...they are part of us and only disappear when we die.

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Isn't it greed instead? I mean if money disappeared, it would simply be replaced by something else that resembles it or just go back to the past of bartering or something similar. At the end of the day money is simply a medium used by most people to achieve their goals and anything past that (which is what most people consider as bad) is just a product of greed.

Also, idk about the government giving out free stuff like that. They pretty much ask us to spend money to make the economy more alive, so if they start giving out vital necessities for free all the time, they are slowly bringing themselves to ruin.

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August 30, 2024, 07:39:03 AM
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This saying has a point but don't generalized not all people is evil when they have money and not all people will do bad doings because of money, fear is always there we can fell it when we don't have money we cannot buy things we wanted and we loss respect from the judgement society, but it always depend on us and not on sayings, there's a lot of ways and jobs to have money just don't dream too much to avoid disappointment.

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