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money itself is not the root.. its the fruit but if the root is not fed the fruit wont grow
the root of the problem is human emotion, things like aspiration and strive(growth and progress) or envy, greed(usually desire of shiny products and property) for instance someone can have alot of money, and yet still an evil person, as can someone with no money at all be just as evil and vice versa
money however can by being the fruit, it can seed future events of roots of evil. but it can also fill someones cravings to prevent problems
people are not aggressive to others due to someones bank balance so its not the root of evil. its the greed and envy of aesthetics of someone showing off a rich lifestyle of goods, and property, so not so much about the money
someone can have a massive mansion and lambo's but be money poor, where by their aesthetics of their life are presented, but the owner is in debt with no money.. yet making others envy them or want to steal from them.. so its not about the money exactly.
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Most people dont have money spare, they get paid and have nothing within days because their bills are equal or more then the money they receive. The theoretical threat of this evil is kept far away and greed is a joke when you are close to not having anything. The few who profit to any excess make all the noise on this situation but the majority in the millions have little left.
Governments are not productive, they cost trillions to support and use up the resources of almost anything they touch. The only advantage to a government is to reduce infighting over those resources which can be the best for all on especially large scales.
Money by itself is a concept of wealth which we currently describe with bits of paper containing debt. Its quite ironic but money has the purpose of liquidity and as a language to enable transactions as easily as possible. The big point always missed on these discussions is that if you inhibit business then the whole country becomes poorer, at worst you make the 'enemies' of the nation stronger by allowing them to compete with ease vs your own companies tied up in red tape and the concept of 'fairness'.
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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.
Money can make us happy, and miserable, depending on our own way of thinking. If we love money too much or even worship money, it will be a crime. because we will do anything to get money, the most extreme may be killing. In essence, money is not the source of evil, and money does not cause evil. What causes evil is our way of thinking and our own hearts. If previously to get money we did anything, there are also those who already have a lot of money can also become evil because we will order money to do the right thing and can be ordered to do the wrong thing, which is our own command. So what is wrong is not money, or money is not the source of evil, but our way of thinking and our hearts are wrong in using and interpreting money.
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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
Humanity is an individual thing and not everyone possess this gift of man mind and as for rich profiling, that's has been happening for many years. It didn't start from us and I'm not sure if that is going to end either especially now that there is peer pressure on social media and everywhere. Everyone you see now value money more than anything in this life because that's what everyone is struggling to get, nobody is out of this war for wealth including the poor people. It's quite sad that people now want to associate with you because they see that your financial status is way above their own, that's when they respect you and they want to have anything to do with you. Some people are ready to worship another person because of money and this things has been in existence for long but the way it's reshaping is really amusing and not nice because humanity is going to extinction. However, we still have people who don't care about money.
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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
That's because we become too materialistic, we prioritize material things over our humanity, and because of this, we place those rich people or those with abundance in materials above, even if they have dubious characters. This is the reason why we elect corrupt officials because they shower us with money, which they will get back by stealing from the coffers of the government. The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer because the rich do not want to share their wealth or help their poor brothers, this has been the cycle ever since.
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The saying "money is the root of all evil" suggests that the pursuit of wealth can lead to unethical behavior & moral corruption. Money itself is a neutral tool but its misuse can generate greed, fear & conflict. Fear often arises from scarcity as people worry about losing their financial stability or compare themselves to others. Money can actually facilitate good, enabling positive change & support for communities. At the end of the day it's the values & choices of individuals that determine whether money leads to negative or positive outcomes.
To clarify: the original saying is "the love of money" is the root of all evil. Money itself is, as you point out, simply a tool. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. - Timothy 6:10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206%3A10&version=KJV
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Money as root of evil and root of fear. Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.
The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world. We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.
Even tho you working at the Job the goverment should always guarantee for you no matter what you have food and housing what ever you work yourself that's for extra. I belive it's all possible with AI and with more automated world when robots can produce a lot things cheaper and way faster then human workers.
Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.
Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.
So If robots and ai machines coming then it could be possible that goverments can support us fully no matter what right now there is too much money chasing by everybody and person don't put his energy nowhere else then just chasing the money it's like the shadow you never catch that If goverment become on full aid for people then many people can live without that fear that they not getting enough money and people can focus on their talents skills energy and time to be more creative and useful for society instead of just chasing the money. Maybe it's even ban money for indviduals and instead of money you get "tokens for food travel and clothing " Im sure If we eliminate use of money people will be less evil and more happy also the fact that you own something and i don't own it's unfair and If your life is better by luck that you had maybe some wealthy parents so you live better life that's unfair and it's not based on person own merits in society....maybe it's better If nobody owns nothing or If they own that would very very exdronary case
Im not sure but it seems that Kamala Harris moving on that direction slowly. Also the state of California in USA.
I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
So for me the concept of money in our lives and livelihoods raises serious questions about its consequences for human well-being and justice. Indeed, a strong argument can be made that money itself is a tool of oppression and exacerbates social injustice. As you yourself have said, incessant demand leads to global stress and depression, and you’ve pointed out how the government promises basic needs like food and housing. That alone can ease some of that pressure. This can allow people to start focusing on their own growth, creativity, and positive contributions to society without fear of economic growth. This was an idea to replace traditional currency with a "token" system for basic needs, where the emphasis would be on the additional value that individuals bring to their communities with their skills and abilities, rather than investing in their wealth in. It just reflects the country’s interest-that it’s just kind of weird. Thanks to AI and increased automation, such systems can be envisioned one day where robots and machines can move large amounts of resources quickly and reduce the need for individuals to chase money to survive under the table. People who think that their wealth is valuable and not their abilities are among the most critical of financial systems. It is also argued that it extends to substantive contemporary values that it is the economic representation of society and should determine its value, rather than individual contributions. Moreover, it means taking a more humane approach to caring for and raising each other’s children and showing compassion to one another.
I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
That's because we become too materialistic, we prioritize material things over our humanity, and because of this, we place those rich people or those with abundance in materials above, even if they have dubious characters. This is the reason why we elect corrupt officials because they shower us with money, which they will get back by stealing from the coffers of the government. The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer because the rich do not want to share their wealth or help their poor brothers, this has been the cycle ever since. I believe that, too often our pleasures of the material world overwhelm our sense of humanness, making us value possessions and wealth over privilege and integrity. This misplaced focus on our physical accomplishment sometimes can raise individuals of questionable character, merely because they possess wealth or have it. Such interests may also dictate policy decisions where the choice of corrupt rulers is favored with respect to their economic power and ability to distribute income, despite taking public wealth for personal benefit. It is a vicious circle of materialistic and greedy self-interests which makes the reconsideration of priorities necessary, shifting more focus on ethics and genuine contribution to society.
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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
I got what you are talking about at the last paragraph here, but your title is quite missleading, I wouldn't blame it on the money itself. Money is just a tool, just like a knife it can be used to cook a good meal, or to kill people, its we can't blame it on the knife, the blame is to the one holding it what they use it for. And I do agree that on todays society people were valued by the wealth that their own, but again it's not the wealth fault, even if there is no money people will still valued others by some other thing, their status, their ancestry etc. Even tho the number is small but there is still good people that has a lot of money, and the mentality to blame money is the one that discourage people from gaining it. The people who blame money for problem, unconsciously wouldn't want to make an effort to get money, those kind of people wouldn't gain wealth, and whether we accept it or not, the best way to contribute to humanity and to be useful for other needs money.
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August 31, 2024, 07:50:36 AM |
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The right statement as I know it is that it's is the love of money that is the root of all evil. Which underlying that when humans live with less love for money it's going to result to lesser tendencies of evil and strives in our world.
On one hand, if we are left with the government making provisions for food and housing accomodations for all without we having to work for money, can the government be capable of making these provisions available for everyone? Because come to think of it, the government are having it to the neck in their bid to provide these aids for the % population of people in the society that can't majorly afford it. How do you imagination the situation when those that are working to make a living to be able to provide these necessities for them and their family without waiting for government should they now stop working and adding to that population of dependants?
In every epoch in human society there has always been inequality and strives among the different class within the mode of production that existed, it didn't all started with the introduction of money to the system. Even with the idea proffered in the Op there will still exist a clash of interest between those who will want to be the people to live in the best accomodations and having the better portions of food as provided by the government.
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Money is a tool that you can use for a bad or good things and money is neutral depends on how we use that money. Money is like a knife which have two side that you can use. You can use money to buy anything you want but money can also buy someone if they can not think clear of what they will do. But not all things can be buy with money. We see many people in the government becomes corrupt when they see a large sum of money and they want to have more and more money from the illegal things. While in out side, people struggle to make money to fills their daily life.
We need to responsible on how we will use the money. If government just provide food and housing to their people, their people will becomes lazy because they don't have to do anything except waiting for the government gives them. Their life will not have a challenge and they will not change better and they just feels their life will not be colorful. Money can make people change and that is right because when people want to have more money, they will search from many ways including doing illegal things. If they can be wise to use money, they will see that money is the root of evil but money will just a tool that can help them to survive.
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August 31, 2024, 09:47:09 AM |
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Money as root of evil and root of fear. Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society..
As someone pointed it out, the love for money is root of all evil, not the money itself. Money is just useful tool to exchange goods and services , and one of foundations of healthy economy. OP I see that you are supporter of UBI - universal basic income, but remember that it comes with a price. We will pay with our freedoms if we accept it. Think about forced vaccination,forced isolation, ban of transportation, confiscation etc. Any you will be forced not to criticize it.
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August 31, 2024, 10:09:30 AM |
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Money as root of evil and root of fear. Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.
The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world. We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.
Even tho you working at the Job the goverment should always guarantee for you no matter what you have food and housing what ever you work yourself that's for extra. I belive it's all possible with AI and with more automated world when robots can produce a lot things cheaper and way faster then human workers.
Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.
Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.
So If robots and ai machines coming then it could be possible that goverments can support us fully no matter what right now there is too much money chasing by everybody and person don't put his energy nowhere else then just chasing the money it's like the shadow you never catch that If goverment become on full aid for people then many people can live without that fear that they not getting enough money and people can focus on their talents skills energy and time to be more creative and useful for society instead of just chasing the money. Maybe it's even ban money for indviduals and instead of money you get "tokens for food travel and clothing " Im sure If we eliminate use of money people will be less evil and more happy also the fact that you own something and i don't own it's unfair and If your life is better by luck that you had maybe some wealthy parents so you live better life that's unfair and it's not based on person own merits in society....maybe it's better If nobody owns nothing or If they own that would very very exdronary case
Im not sure but it seems that Kamala Harris moving on that direction slowly. Also the state of California in USA.
I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
Why do you have so many accounts on this forum? Your writing style and similar usernames are such a give away. Are you reselling them or something? Anyway, money is not the root of all evil, that is just something poor people lean on because they are often in a bad place mentally and want something to blame it on. The fact is that there is a massive spectrum of wealth out there, with many different economic systems and inevitably different qualities of government. The culture of a country that has evolved over centuries or generations of people also has an impact on your lifestyle. Some people might get access to a lot of money, but due to waste and/or ignorance, find ways to burn through it very quickly. Others might have little money but manage to use it very resourcefully and even propel themselves up a social tier.
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Money as root of evil and root of fear. Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society..
As someone pointed it out, the love for money is root of all evil, not the money itself. Money is just useful tool to exchange goods and services , and one of foundations of healthy economy. OP I see that you are supporter of UBI - universal basic income, but remember that it comes with a price. We will pay with our freedoms if we accept it. Think about forced vaccination,forced isolation, ban of transportation, confiscation etc. Any you will be forced not to criticize it. On the time or moment that you do become that having that kind of mindset or same as you said that love for money then this is where evil would really be that coming from. Although not all people who do loves money would really be going into this path but most likely you would really be doing so, just because you've been aiming to accumulate as much as you could. We cant really be able to deny that we would really be doing our very best for us to have a better life in terms of financial aspect. We are really that aiming on having a life on which there's no problem when it comes to money and since we know that having money could buy everything.Of course there would really be that limitations on everything yet too much greed would really be leading up into those actions which arent that good anymore because of that desperation. There's no wrong on trying out to achieve something specially on financial advancement or progress. Just make it sure that you wont really be that going through excessive approach because when things turns out to be like this then it would really be not ideal on having this approach. Money would really be that becomes evil on the moment that a certain person would really be making use of it on other means or simply into the time or moment that you wont really be doing those ethical decisions just because of being that too greedy.
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August 31, 2024, 10:29:12 AM |
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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have. At this level most humans lose morals, lose compassion and lose the meaning of a life that needs to take care of each other as a sense of humanity and when you or anyone has a lot of money we will be considered as quite influential people. It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them. We do lose sense of humanity more and more. In terms of help we often see neglect towards the poor and on the contrary people compete to help the rich. For example if a rich person experiences a house fire then people will flock to help. But if the poor are hit by a disaster, only a few people are willing to help and that is a phenomenon that often happens and we often witness now. The sense of humanity is lost and instead they talk about whose interests and what their position is in every assistance. Look at the big cases that happen widely and how children become victims of war crimes and innocent people become experimental materials for those who are immoral. The challenges of life become a joke and we can only watch without being able to provide any help and how the morals of individuals and groups begin to lose their direction in terms of social, cultural and religious relations.
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August 31, 2024, 10:33:14 AM |
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The human nature is to blame, what is money but a piece of paper with some pictures and numbers?
If humans want to do something bad, they will do it, it is not that they will try to find other methods to earn money that dont need bloodshed. That is why wars have waged and greedy people tried to fool others.
I dont agree with your AI argument, similar statements were made when computers first came in.
How a person is doing is not visible from their money, it also takes into account their health, mental state and so on. We should be careful not to judge people like that.
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August 31, 2024, 11:41:29 AM Last edit: August 31, 2024, 02:01:58 PM by ovcijisir |
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Money as root of evil and root of fear. Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society..
As someone pointed it out, the love for money is root of all evil, not the money itself. Money is just useful tool to exchange goods and services , and one of foundations of healthy economy. OP I see that you are supporter of UBI - universal basic income, but remember that it comes with a price. We will pay with our freedoms if we accept it. Think about forced vaccination,forced isolation, ban of transportation, confiscation etc. Any you will be forced not to criticize it. On the time or moment that you do become that having that kind of mindset or same as you said that love for money then this is where evil would really be that coming from. Although not all people who do loves money would really be going into this path but most likely you would really be doing so, just because you've been aiming to accumulate as much as you could. We cant really be able to deny that we would really be doing our very best for us to have a better life in terms of financial aspect. We are really that aiming on having a life on which there's no problem when it comes to money and since we know that having money could buy everything.Of course there would really be that limitations on everything yet too much greed would really be leading up into those actions which arent that good anymore because of that desperation. There's no wrong on trying out to achieve something specially on financial advancement or progress. Just make it sure that you wont really be that going through excessive approach because when things turns out to be like this then it would really be not ideal on having this approach. Money would really be that becomes evil on the moment that a certain person would really be making use of it on other means or simply into the time or moment that you wont really be doing those ethical decisions just because of being that too greedy. I really try to understand what are you saying but it is very hard to decipher it. It would be better if you would rephrase your reply in more simple and more understandable manner. Try writing simpler, shorter sentences instead one long and complex one.
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August 31, 2024, 12:35:02 PM |
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In terms of help we often see neglect towards the poor and on the contrary people compete to help the rich. For example if a rich person experiences a house fire then people will flock to help. But if the poor are hit by a disaster, only a few people are willing to help and that is a phenomenon that often happens and we often witness now. The sense of humanity is lost and instead they talk about whose interests and what their position is in every assistance.
Maybe that only happens where you live and I don't think that something like that also happens in other people's places, because in my place in terms of helping each other in disasters, it still looks the same between the rich and the poor. Although some people may still think that helping the rich will definitely get a very satisfying reward than helping the poor who can't give anything after that and if there are people who think like that at this time, it means that the person is not sincere in helping others who are being struck by disaster. Look at the big cases that happen widely and how children become victims of war crimes and innocent people become experimental materials for those who are immoral. The challenges of life become a joke and we can only watch without being able to provide any help and how the morals of individuals and groups begin to lose their direction in terms of social, cultural and religious relations.
This cannot be denied by anyone because it is also related to authority and power that should not be owned by others so that people who are able to do such things will continue to do so indiscriminately to anyone. However, I do not see such things in all countries except for a few countries where perhaps the leaders are still very cruel to their people and also to many people so that they do not have a sense of compassion for fellow human beings in this world.
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August 31, 2024, 02:59:04 PM |
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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.
Money can make us happy, and miserable, depending on our own way of thinking. If we love money too much or even worship money, it will be a crime. because we will do anything to get money, the most extreme may be killing. In essence, money is not the source of evil, and money does not cause evil. What causes evil is our way of thinking and our own hearts. If previously to get money we did anything, there are also those who already have a lot of money can also become evil because we will order money to do the right thing and can be ordered to do the wrong thing, which is our own command. So what is wrong is not money, or money is not the source of evil, but our way of thinking and our hearts are wrong in using and interpreting money. It is true that everything that happens of course depends on each individual and the greed that will make someone legalize all means to get money so that the person never thinks about whether it harms others or not and all that happens is not because of money but the mistakes of those who want money in the wrong way. We have also seen those who have a lot of money using the right way and also like to share with people in need and there are also some people who do not have money who commit crimes and we cannot blame money as the root of all evil but it really depends on a person's personality in using the money.
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August 31, 2024, 04:32:33 PM |
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But anyway, well wars are not fought over money, they are fought over natural resources. The money itself is controlled by a clique of people who run the banks and they lend it to countries who want money to finance their wars. The people at the bottom of the pyramid get scraps, and most of the times have a hard time getting up on their feet.
true, war is not because of money but natural resources, but what is related to money is the social life of individuals against other individuals, where humans will compete with each other to look rich and powerful because they have a lot of money,
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September 01, 2024, 06:03:42 AM |
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world. We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.
Money they said is the root of all evil but what made people describe it in this manner is the quest of owning that money and fear of loosing it that makes it to be the root of evil,and the love of money is the root of all evil, because in a clear sense people find their selves doing alot of negative things just for the fact that they want to own this money notwithstanding anything they can take up any action to get it. Just look at the fact that you love something and when you do you tend not to loose it it foe anything and that's the root of dear but I don't see why money should be the root of evil because if you love something you treasure it but not to an extent to take up any ruthless actions to make sure that thing you love is secured because it's a normal entity, so it should be understood that money solves alot of issues in life so it's advisable to keep it a t balance to avoid creating negativity from it that makes it becomes evil.
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