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August 29, 2024, 11:14:59 AM
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Simply have a look at this user: Fullbear2222. 11 merits and 450 posts from which 242 are topics. Can you imagine? 242 topics.
What's his point? Nothing. He simply created new topics and feeds spammers.
Another one here: UTON Blockchain. 10 posts (8 topics).

What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.

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August 29, 2024, 11:26:53 AM
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He probably has some mental problem. I talked about him and his many alts on this thread:

Likely low quality poster alts.

Some of us have ignored him and his alts but:

We can ignore everyone. And the “economics” section takes on a rather boring look. Sad


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August 29, 2024, 11:27:33 AM
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Simply have a look at this user: Fullbear2222. 11 merits and 450 posts from which 242 are topics. Can you imagine? 242 topics.
He is a known troll/shitposter that operated under other accounts as well.


What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
Good luck with getting everyone on board.  Tongue

There's simply too many spammers that will use every single opportunity to dump their weekly post quota for that list to be effective.

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August 29, 2024, 12:06:21 PM
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This is a nice observation and I hope the mods can do the needful. 242 topics and 11 merits is a confirmation that the topics are not worth being topics here which is just spam. I wonder why people rush to create topics when they have nothing new to bring to the forum. I also noticed that most of the people who are eager to create topic do not even follow the discussion in their topics. Maybe they were advised that creating topics is how merits are earned in the forum. Some of them will learn the heard way because they are not willing to learn.

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August 29, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
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Simply have a look at this user: Fullbear2222. 11 merits and 450 posts from which 242 are topics. Can you imagine? 242 topics.
What's his point? Nothing. He simply created new topics and feeds spammers.
Another one here: UTON Blockchain. 10 posts (8 topics).

What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
Yeah you have a point. It's high time we start taking out plagiarist and spammers. sometimes there are too many low quality posts. As for sequencial posting, it's not against the rules of the forum . Posting very frequently isn't a wrong thing to do the problem is when you post frequently and the post are just plagiarised articles, or AI generated or just too low in quality. Also A newbie creating do many topics though isn't really a big deal if similarly those topics are of quality or the op was simply asking a couple of important questions.

I probably haven't really come across these users before or probably I have but didn't take note. Spam still occurs on the forum but it affects some boards and not all boards. Boards like technical discussions hardly get spams and I've noticed the moderator there deletes generic posts ASAP.

The best thing to do is to report these post when you spot them. It helps the moderators notice them on time.

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August 29, 2024, 02:10:11 PM
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Honestly they're not that bad, as long as they didn't use AI or commit plagiarism, they're better than plagiarists.

Although sometime they discuss about absurd and bizarre thing which we never thought including the stupid one, but we shouldn't limit our ideas especially this forum is supporting free speech.

I also noticed that most of the people who are eager to create topic do not even follow the discussion in their topics. Maybe they were advised that creating topics is how merits are earned in the forum. Some of them will learn the heard way because they are not willing to learn.
In this case, it seems not.

It's easy to spot a merit hunter, I don't see the "merit hunting" sign here.

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August 29, 2024, 02:50:36 PM
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What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
Accounts created these topics can use those accounts as tools to feed spammers that can be their own accounts too. I don't know but there are similar topics created in Gambling board with many boring questions which I believe unnecessary to ask because answers can be very clear.

In months, there were complains why these boring topics in Gambling board were moved to Off-topic board and spam feeding can be a reason or one of reasons.

You can report these topics that can be trashed or moved to Off-topic board or ignore those topic authors.

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August 29, 2024, 02:57:30 PM
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@Synchronice, from what we can see, all these meaningless topics are the work of one man, I think he performed under the name polo (something like that) in the past. The man literally destroyed that board and you can literally do nothing to him except to try report topics, but I think it would be a long-term mission with little success.

I personally do not support any such discussion, and the question is why some others do not do the same - maybe a person would give up if he saw that no one is interested.

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How did I know, before I even looked at that dude's post history, that those threads would be in the Economics section? 

Economics was a great place to read up until about 2-3 years ago, maybe less.  Now it's just become a cesspool of shitposters and it's almost as bad as Bitcoin Discussion--and that's a fucking shame.  Why is this guy creating so many threads?  Can't be sure, but I'd venture it's for the same reason random, unknown members have been creating the same "gold vs. bitcoin" type of topics for years now, so that their alt accounts, friends, and whoever else can jump in and make some money.

I'm so tired of it, too.  The quality of writing and importance of the content within posts/threads has dropped off a cliff on bitcointalk.  I doubt I'm the only one who's noticed this, but I'm not sure what can be done about it except to keep hitting the ignore button--but that's not a solution for the forum, just the individuals who don't mind ignoring a bunch of morons.

Honestly they're not that bad, as long as they didn't use AI or commit plagiarism, they're better than plagiarists.

Is anyone checking to see if posts are being made or helped by AI?  Every single time I come across a post made by a newbie in decent English, red flags start going off.  I doubt the percentage of newly-registered members who can write well and contribute something even close to substantial is <1%, and that's been true for years.

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August 29, 2024, 03:17:28 PM
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What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
If someone falls victim to making a comment under a post that's created by a scammer, does that automatically make those users who replied there a spammer too? 
 
How about if it's a spam topic interest that the OP just lacks the proper information or it's being blinded by its spamming content and other members who reply either to correct the OP or warn the OP of his or her spamming behaviour? Are those members automatically spam feeders? 

Let's take this his thread, for instance. Topic: Can this happen with price resets and cryptocurrency? The post has about 5 replies. Will you consider everyone there as spam feeders? 
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August 29, 2024, 11:12:43 PM
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What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
Instead of encouraging everyone to put them in ignore list which isn't realistic, why not consider a situation we report such users to moderators and moderators will enforce a punishment like "inability to start a topic for the next 7 days". This kind of measures could curtail or slow the spam feeders as you called them.

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Instead of encouraging everyone to put them in ignore list which isn't realistic, why not consider a situation we report such users to moderators and moderators will enforce a punishment like "inability to start a topic for the next 7 days". This kind of measures could curtail or slow the spam feeders as you called them.
Not everyone do the same and advises are only advises. It's up to each forum member to do their decision and take action.

Some members will not care about it, no ignore, no report.
Some members will click on Ignore and move on.
Some members will report these posts, threads but don't Ignore.
Some members will do both, report and ignore the user.

Generally garbage threads need massive clean-ups and continuous spammers with AI-generated posts, plagiarism need to be banned.

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This is a nice observation and I hope the mods can do the needful. 242 topics and 11 merits is a confirmation that the topics are not worth being topics here which is just spam. I wonder why people rush to create topics when they have nothing new to bring to the forum. I also noticed that most of the people who are eager to create topic do not even follow the discussion in their topics. Maybe they were advised that creating topics is how merits are earned in the forum. Some of them will learn the heard way because they are not willing to learn.

It would be better to ask why people rush to answer such topics. He creates topics daily, and as Poker Player correctly noted, this person's behavior raises questions about normality. He does not answer his topics and does not support conversations (although I completely ignore him on all his accounts; I am not sure that this is so). But here the question arises about the need to create such topics where you do not conduct a discussion. He does not need merits; it is noticeable; he needs attention. Perhaps this person does not have loved ones, is lonely, and splashes out his entire stream of thoughts on the forum. And the one who answers his topics similarly highlights himself by simply fulfilling his signature quota, nothing more. If you disagree with the issues, and they are not interesting to you, just ignore him. The moderators have not noticed him for a long time, apparently ignoring him as well. Grin

Today, the economics section has acquired this appearance, and all this is because of one spammer.


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Is anyone checking to see if posts are being made or helped by AI?  Every single time I come across a post made by a newbie in decent English, red flags start going off.  I doubt the percentage of newly-registered members who can write well and contribute something even close to substantial is <1%, and that's been true for years.
I try to check both of them on report plagiarism and report AI post thread, but I found nothing, so it means no one had report them.

For Fullbear2222 he's has his own writing style, it's hard to detect AI generated or not.

While the another one, I use four AI detectors, 2 say using AI and another two say it's human text.

Yeah it's hard to find a genuine newbie, either they're using AI, low quality poster, spammer or merit hunter. Tongue

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Simply have a look at this user: Fullbear2222. 11 merits and 450 posts from which 242 are topics. Can you imagine? 242 topics.
What's his point? Nothing. He simply created new topics and feeds spammers.
Another one here: UTON Blockchain. 10 posts (8 topics).

What about to make the list of spam feeders in this thread? Everyone should put these people on ignore list. These people create topics, then bunch of spammers post in their thread and spam grows on this forum and that's bad.
Did they actually focused on reading or they focused on creating random topic? Because as I know, someone who is learning here should be doing more readings and replies than putting efforts creating topics with no meaning. I don't know but I believe most of them are being introduced here by someone and they should give them proper orientation on how to go about with this forum, from my looks most of them thinks creating continuous topic fetch them merits since many newbies doesn't have patient over this merits of a thing. Perhaps, creating topics seems something natural to them and could fetched them the merits needed instead without knowing they are putting themselves at the tight corner or being ignored by most users..

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This occurrence also happens on Press board for many years. If you ignore user "chmod755" (who SEO spamming bitcoin[dot]com) and "CoinTürk" (who SEO spamming coin-turk[dot]com and bitcoinhaber[dot]net), you'll realize that all recent threads on it is being ignored. So if those two users aren't nuked until now, i don't expect user mentioned by OP will be banned/nuked either.

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~snip~
Today, the economics section has acquired this appearance, and all this is because of one spammer.

The situation is getting even worse.


Boards are falling one after the other, just look at what 1 or 2 users have done with the Press board and nobody cares. We have more and more spammers, those who plagiarize and use AI, and we literally have a record low number of reports - from this we can only draw the conclusion that most members instead of trying to solve problems, push them under the carpet.

In the long term, it will backfire on everyone, because advertisers will not pay to advertise on a forum where most of the posts will be so bad that no one will read them anymore.

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Southeast Asia includes Indonesia........

Copyleaks - This is human text.
Hivemoderation - not likely to contain AI Generated Text
sapling.ai - Fake: 100.0%
Zerogpt - Your Text is AI/GPT Generated

This account already violates the rules in that it had an alternative account, which was banned with great difficulty by Lucius.
Plagiarism/Paraphrasing

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59 posts so far deleted, most of them due to AI and plagiarism and no ban... Angry

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3590023


After "only" 69 deleted posts, mostly due to plagiarism and using AI, this user finally got a permanent ban.


And now its worthless topics appear again; the behavior is typical for the first account.


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We can start counting down how long it will take for the moderators to run out of patience and ban it again.

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August 30, 2024, 12:56:05 PM
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We can start counting down how long it will take for the moderators to run out of patience and ban it again.


Well observed, I had no doubt at all that he would return very soon with a new account. I've made 2 reports so far, so we'll see how long it will last this time, and given that he's a newbie, maybe not that long.

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While the another one, I use four AI detectors, 2 say using AI and another two say it's human text.

I'm not sure how these things work, but doesn't that seem like horrible detection capability to you?  It's a coin flip, and I'm hoping that isn't the best these tools can do in detecting AI-generated content....but again, I don't know much about this stuff yet.

In the long term, it will backfire on everyone, because advertisers will not pay to advertise on a forum where most of the posts will be so bad that no one will read them anymore.

Ah, but you're thinking past the immediate gratification of payment-for-shitposts, whereas the knuckle-dragging fools who are currently ruining the quality of our beloved forum can't see any possible negative outcomes like that or worse, they just don't give a shit.  It's no wonder my post count has dropped in the past year.  I thought it was me being typically torpid, but then I look at all of the crap threads in the sections I normally post in and there just hasn't been all that many that are original or can even hold my attention for 30 seconds. 

This place needs a hot lead enema.

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