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August 29, 2024, 08:11:15 PM
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I think AI is in early stages in many things. For the moment the only thing I find it good for is content marketing, journalism and these kind of professions. At my profession of Sysadmin/Network Admin I have not find a great use case for AI, I had to rebuild a network from scratch with some of the worse rated Firewalls that strangely are from the giant of network Cisco, the Firepower Threat Defense software in their Firepower series and AI kept giving me help from their ASA-Adaptive Security Appliances which has a terminal where you can configure things, much different from Threat Defense which only has a GUI, so yeah AI is like that in many other things including gambling. It cannot help at all in sport betting addiction or any addiction simply because as a technology is quite new and immature.

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August 29, 2024, 08:59:28 PM
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How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?
Inasmuch as this is a brilliant idea and a welcome development into the gambling industry, for me, when it comes to this issue, I think I'm yet to funny understand how is A.I able to balance gambling activity of an individual. Or does it mean the A.I it's going to be just like ChatGPT from OpenAI which gives possible and professional gambling advice when asked for solution? While secondly, if this is only going to be like just ChatGPT without a physical implementation, then an addict is likely to continue doing absence of a physical gambling moderator.

 
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August 30, 2024, 07:13:27 AM
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If we use AI in gambling, or allow it to interfere even with the purpose of balancing our gambling activities, then I guess the fun in gambling will slowly diminish. Try to compare gambling using a bot with gambling manually, doesn't it feel more enjoyable when we do manual betting and rely on our personal analysis to manage our betting and ourselves? We know AI is the future, but not everything should be relied upon, especially when it comes to the kind of entertainment we seek.

If the gambler only cares about winning, it doesn't matter whether he uses AI or manually analyzes the matches before betting but AI to be used on him so he can quit gambling is very possible if he agrees to the AI company. If AI keeps reminding him about his spending in casinos every time he is about to do it again, I think he will realize it's about time to stop.

It still needs the cooperation of the gambler to really stop the addiction. It's still his WILL and without it, he'll continue.

If our goal is simply to win by using AI, it’s important to remember that this isn’t a guaranteed path to success. If AI were capable of consistently beating the odds, the gambling industry would likely have already been affected, as AI technology has been rapidly advancing. Casinos operate with a built-in house edge, which no AI can overcome consistently, unless there’s a flaw in the system that AI could exploit.

AI can be valuable for managing our gambling activities, helping to prevent addiction and encouraging responsible gambling. However, it’s not a tool that can consistently beat the casinos. In short, AI would make us a responsible gambler but never to beat casinos.

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August 30, 2024, 07:49:17 AM
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How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?



The subject is controversial as there is an  opposite  way of looking at things. Some experts believe that AI "has the potential to deepen addiction" as it enhances the gamblers ability to get profit from betting on some events and I think their point should be considered as the statics shows the significant expansion in the number of  in-game bets (presumably assisted by AI).  

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August 30, 2024, 09:28:47 AM
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I do not deny the usefulness of AI in helping people addicted to games, but first of all, the desire of the player to use such services is necessary. Neither an alcoholic nor a drug addict, and therefore not a single player, will be able to identify and declare themselves as sick, already at the stage of the disease development. This has also been proven. This is called leaving in denial of the problem. This means that all the information offered as help to the player will not be perceived fully with a full desire for recovery. In addition, I would be somewhat concerned about the individual use of AI tools without specialists, since we all understand that AI is a machine, and machines tend to make mistakes and break down.

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August 30, 2024, 10:34:45 AM
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How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?
It is still limited to research and has not really been able to clearly prove that AI can help someone to balance gambling activities, moreover this is the first time I have heard of research like this.
Whether it will work or not I don't really believe it considering that AI is an artificial intelligence that may indeed be able to help some human activities but I don't think it will be possible to balance someone gambling activities and overcome addiction.
But if this research is successful then it is quite good research, there will be real performance with combination of AI and brain science to be able to make someone able to do some activities more measurably specifically in gambling as mentioned.

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August 30, 2024, 11:02:16 AM
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Artificial intelligence has so many use cases and real life application period I am so glad that we are going to see what it can doing then addiction sphere. I am kind of disappointed because I was expecting to read that AI is going to go into the brains of gambling addicts and fix some neural connections related to addiction. Well, maybe it the future it will be possible after they are able to understand the behavioral patterns . For now a follow up question I have to ask is who gets to use the AI. Is the the therapist or the gambling addict?
I was thinking the same thing that scientists perhaps plans to input some scientific gadgets into the heads of addicts that needs AI help. Gambling addiction is a behavioral habit therefore what is best for them will be therapy and practicing abstainance from gambling activities. I don't see a connection between AI and addicts that needs help, if such a thing is possible it can lead to manipulating people's choices of reasoning. I don't think that it's a good idea for people to depend on any sort of machines that can tamper with their reasonings unless it's for life support.











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August 30, 2024, 11:18:04 AM
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How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?
Sorry, but I am yet to come to full terms with the article, as regards to how or what role exactly that Ai have to play in other to help an addicted gambler, or combat gambling addiction in its totality, aside from the part you mentioned that it could be used as a chatbot as serve as avenue there people can seek out possible solutions on how they can go about helping themselves gamble responsibly, or free themselves from gambling addiction if the person is already addicted.

But nevertheless, it's also still good to know that researchers are not just sitting and watching, but are rising up to seek out possible solution to gambling addiction, using Ai as a source or major source here.
I can only but wish them luck, even though I did mention at the beginning of this comment that I do not find how Ai can help balance the gambling activities of a person aside from being used as a source of some important information.

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If we talk about chatbots as others are:
AI draws all its information from currently known facts and sources, there is nothing magical in AI analyzing something, it's just the result of the model it has been built on, if the model is based on a thing the results generated by it will be just as biased, now would you let something like that try to stop an addition that might become life-threatening if advice goes wrong who's going to be in charge of patients that need help?

Furthermore, treating addition includes a few things:
- avoiding isolation and communicating with family
- interacting with people who don't have this problem and can easily say now, having them a role model

A chatbot might simply get ignored as an addict can simply turn it off and that's it, a support group or a therapist can press you to attend meetings, and family and friends can be of much more help and influence.

It looks good in theory but the results will be much like those guys going over a divorce and building a relationship with an AI girlfriend.

BUT!!! The article isn't about chatbots!
What's worse, it goes even further:
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Simply, it is possible to have a dynamic AI display with probabilities, for states of mind, per situation, around gambling. It could be adjusted with the amplification of a grader or the attenuation of another. It could also work with expanding relays and so forth
all this is a fancy way of saying it the solution it to turn you into a lab rat where you're allowing manipulation of your own senses, dystopian is a light word for this thing, basically an AI analyzing your brain and drawing patterns for your actions based on the effects felt by your brain from different interactions.

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For now a follow up question I have to ask is who gets to use the AI. Is the the therapist or the gambling addict?

I find myself smiling over this cause that's a point tho, expecting to read that AI will widespread to the gamblers brain making it able to fix up some issues pertaining addiction.

Cause the thread says AI and Brain science in equilibrium, so does it mean that they are both in balance rendering same applications, because from my own side of view or how I'm seeing this I think AI and Brain does almost same thing in the aspect of gambling addiction and sport betting.But with so much technological effects AI have I'm not sure it can be on equilibrium to balance gambling addiction and sports betting, I think the Brain science does alot in this aspects.

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-snip- it can also set as personal support and give real-time alerts.  AI having access to database about gambling and gambling addiction can be used as a tool for information and AI can be used as a chatbot to help in a therapeutic approach.  But there are also a flaw in this method since privacy, misuse and effectiveness is also the concern.

How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?

Considering the following statement in the article:

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Simply, it is possible to have a dynamic AI display with probabilities, for states of mind, per situation, around gambling. It could be adjusted with the amplification of a grader or the attenuation of another. It could also work with expanding relays and so forth

And after reading your post, I think that what they are proposing is some kind of continuous monitoring of gamblers' states of mind in order to give real-time alerts, and, as you said, I don't know how we can pair that useful tool with the due respect to privacy.

I'm not willing to open my mind to companies which claim that they can help with whatever needs I may have. They have proven that they are here for the money, neglecting ethics, and while it doesn't change I won't trust the AI giants.

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AI can probably contribute in analyzing general problems but gambling addiction is not only about the general problem. It involves unique individuals coming from unique circumstances that pushed him into it. I think in effectively treating a gambling addiction case a professional individual should intervene. Not all gambling addicts share the same causes. They do not share the same set of problems that led them into the disease. It should be a person to person treatment. A professional can sympathize and relate with a patient because he has seriously studied it already and has vast experiences about it. AI may fail on this aspect.
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If you say yes your personal AI can say no, I get it but still we can't compare the Human mind with AI, because at times the most dangerous risk will come out successful for you, but since you have a little machine that will tell you not to, you will miss out.

I think the best thing an AI can do for gambler is gambling monitoring through how much a gambler must risk per day in gambling, because even if the AI said you can't gamble right now it is still left for the human mind to make a decision.

Unless this AI we are talking about is a physical robot that can stop you by force when you meet your gambling threshold or when you don't know how to stop, this robot must use force and drag you home or something, nothing else makes any sense to me than this.

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There’s something unique about AI when it comes to communication skill, everyone can agree mostly people who make use of AI in terms of research and other activities. Gambling addiction still deals with the mindset and I don’t see how AI can help heal humans mind or rather restructure their mentality. Gambling activity can be regulated if only the person is willing.
I don’t think AI can help in terms of addiction rather an AI can be programmed to give rules and guidelines concerning addiction if only the gambler will listen, living in a generation where people use the help of AI to run programs it can be said AI can do all things but, I disagree.
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I don't know how AI can balance gambling activities, has AI been widely used for gambling? In my opinion NO, AI cannot help anything let alone not complicate the situation this is the behavior of how we are in gambling if excessive then we ourselves can balance not with AI.

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AI is actually able to help someone in their gambling activities and prevent them from becoming addicted to gambling by studying their gambling patterns. Maybe for people who don't understand this it sounds quite difficult, but it is very possible. The problem here is only about privacy, because AI technology needs to collect information from users and study it and provide conclusions on the information it has processed. It all relates to the gambler's gambling activities and how AI analyzes it, so there is a privacy issue here because various user information is open to AI technology and no one can guarantee whether it is safe or not.

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The subject is controversial as there is an  opposite  way of looking at things. Some experts believe that AI "has the potential to deepen addiction" as it enhances the gamblers ability to get profit from betting on some events and I think their point should be considered as the statics shows the significant expansion in the number of  in-game bets (presumably assisted by AI).  

True this kind of thing falls under misuse which is why it is also one of the major concerns of these researchers. We all know tools such as AI can be used in both good and bad stuff. But despite that, I believe AI when fully developed can help with finding ways to improve the treatment of gambling addiction and may give a prompt to players if they are on the path of gambling addiction if ever gambling platforms will implement the aid of AI in helping their player to know whether they are at risk of being a gambling addict.

I don't know how AI can balance gambling activities, has AI been widely used for gambling? In my opinion NO, AI cannot help anything let alone not complicate the situation this is the behavior of how we are in gambling if excessive then we ourselves can balance not with AI.

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AI is actually able to help someone in their gambling activities and prevent them from becoming addicted to gambling by studying their gambling patterns. Maybe for people who don't understand this it sounds quite difficult, but it is very possible. The problem here is only about privacy, because AI technology needs to collect information from users and study it and provide conclusions on the information it has processed. It all relates to the gambler's gambling activities and how AI analyzes it, so there is a privacy issue here because various user information is open to AI technology and no one can guarantee whether it is safe or not.

I also have the same answer since AI isn't just limited for gambling prediction but also can be use as a tool to study human behavior and predict the possible outcome.  AI isn't just a program with linear result but they are program that grows with the user.  As I stated in due time when AI has peaked its development, it will serve more than what people are expecting.  AI may give more sound advice than human if the day come that its algorithm is fully developed.

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I don't know how AI can balance gambling activities, has AI been widely used for gambling? In my opinion NO, AI cannot help anything let alone not complicate the situation this is the behavior of how we are in gambling if excessive then we ourselves can balance not with AI.

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AI is actually able to help someone in their gambling activities and prevent them from becoming addicted to gambling by studying their gambling patterns. Maybe for people who don't understand this it sounds quite difficult, but it is very possible. The problem here is only about privacy, because AI technology needs to collect information from users and study it and provide conclusions on the information it has processed. It all relates to the gambler's gambling activities and how AI analyzes it, so there is a privacy issue here because various user information is open to AI technology and no one can guarantee whether it is safe or not.
I am a person who is quite difficult to understand in this case why AI can help prevent gambling addiction whether we ask in ChatGPT or later AI will be integrated into casinos? This is what I am thinking now.

I don't know about the privacy issue later... obviously we know we want more privacy but AI will collect more data for the conclusion, but I really don't understand whether AI can guarantee in what way... then will the balance in this activity be helped by AI? Maybe it's my wild thought that could be wrong.

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I do not deny the usefulness of AI in helping people addicted to games, but first of all, the desire of the player to use such services is necessary. Neither an alcoholic nor a drug addict, and therefore not a single player, will be able to identify and declare themselves as sick, already at the stage of the disease development. This has also been proven. This is called leaving in denial of the problem. This means that all the information offered as help to the player will not be perceived fully with a full desire for recovery. In addition, I would be somewhat concerned about the individual use of AI tools without specialists, since we all understand that AI is a machine, and machines tend to make mistakes and break down.

I believe that the use of AI can indeed be helpful in assisting individuals who are addicted to games. However, it is important for the player to acknowledge their addiction and have the desire to seek help in order for these services to be effective. Without this recognition, it can be difficult for individuals to fully commit to the recovery process. Additionally, there may be concerns about relying solely on AI tools without the guidance of specialists, as machines are not perfect and can make mistakes.
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gambling addiction is a relatively new issue that arise in medicine.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=addiction+gambling&filter=years.2003-2024
have a look here, as you can see the vast majority of scientific works on that argument have been released in the last 20 years.

Before someone can claim some "real use" of AI I would see a pubblication, a clinical trial, even a single case that describe some process, method and so on. Speculation base on press release isn't helpful in medicine Smiley

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September 02, 2024, 07:31:24 AM
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How about you, do you think AI can help balance the gambling activity of a person without complicating things out?
Sorry, but I am yet to come to full terms with the article, as regards to how or what role exactly that Ai have to play in other to help an addicted gambler, or combat gambling addiction in its totality, aside from the part you mentioned that it could be used as a chatbot as serve as avenue there people can seek out possible solutions on how they can go about helping themselves gamble responsibly, or free themselves from gambling addiction if the person is already addicted.

But nevertheless, it's also still good to know that researchers are not just sitting and watching, but are rising up to seek out possible solution to gambling addiction, using Ai as a source or major source here.
I can only but wish them luck, even though I did mention at the beginning of this comment that I do not find how Ai can help balance the gambling activities of a person aside from being used as a source of some important information.


That will be the crux of the whole issue surrounding AI v Addicted gamblers,
it will be getting affected gamblers to recognise there is an issue, be willing to
receive help and then trusting AI to make a solution.

The article says that AI could/would be used to identify gambling addiction,
I'm not sure how effective that would be especially online where there is no face
to face direct contact.

Will everyone in the future who uses online gambling platforms be asked to answer
a comprehensive questionaire or something like that so that an AI bot can determine
addiction?

It just sounds like someone has thought up a use for AI which will make them money...

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