Do bookmakers influence the outcome of a match?

[Zoomic]

The chances of these things happening may be very slim and rare, but it doesn't rule out the fact that it can actually happen.

We could also say it this way: "The chance of them getting caught is very slim." This suggests that major leagues are indeed rigged; it’s just hard to catch them since they are protected and their business must continue. There’s a saying in sports betting: don’t be fooled by public perception, as it is usually wrong. The side where the smart bets or whales are placing their money is often against the public perception.

We cannot rule out your opinion that major leagues are rigged. What we see as football and entertainment is a totally different thing entirely to the owners and management of the clubs. Football right now is a real business and politics, the owners of these businesses will not let their businesses crumble. They can do anything to influence matches to make sure that the money keeps coming in. This is why after a careful thought, I came to a conclusion that  it may actually be possible for bookmakers to influence matches because we have more businessmen now than real people who have sincere passion for sport.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

I can't buy the idea that bookmakers influence the outcome of a match. The match can be fixed quite alright, but not from the bookmakers. They can get a tip of the fixtures and try setting the odds in the to reduce the exploits of the whales that do the fixing . Fixing is done quite alright, but not by the bookmakers, it's done in the lower leagues that are not properly checked by FIFA. It's a seldom activity too.

[ralle14]

The top bookmakers probably have the money to influence matches in the lower leagues. Even though they have what it takes to shift the tides, I doubt they'll do it because from what i've seen bookmakers tend to have low betting limits whenever you bet in the lower leagues.

I can't buy the idea that bookmakers influence the outcome of a match. The match can be fixed quite alright, but not from the bookmakers. They can get a tip of the fixtures and try setting the odds in the to reduce the exploits of the whales that do the fixing . Fixing is done quite alright, but not by the bookmakers, it's done in the lower leagues that are not properly checked by FIFA. It's a seldom activity too.

I also have the same thoughts, the bookmakers don't have to rely on fixing matches when profit is going to flow regardless of the outcome and as long as their users keep placing bets.

[Hirose UK]

Basically every team will have an owner or investor who holds some shares in the football team, not only for the national team but also the lower division teams there must always be financial support behind them to finance and develop the team.
But what makes the difference is the amount of money that is circulated for this investment, for big team there are clearly rich people and maybe foreign investors but for lower teams it is likely only small investors and from here it can be concluded that the influence of the inadequate state or government budget is not problem.
And if it is about bookies influencing the results, it may be for several matches in certain competitions considering that now football is also part of business that is utilized by investors or team owners so that they can take the opportunity to work together for the results that have been agreed upon.
This is like making predetermined result or kind of bribe to make one particular team gain an advantage and win, the small league will be very easy to influence.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Betting sites don't really care which side is winning because they win no matter what.
If one side gets heavy bets they just adjust the odds and make sure their vig stays the same for them.

Sure sometimes they still have a site where the sports book would make more money if it wins but they won't lose money if the other side wins normally. They already charge us a hefty % due to the vig so there is plenty of room for them to move the line/odds accordingly.

[mv1986]

I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

I doubt that that is the case. Most of the time bookmakers are making their many anyway by matching the various outcomes with odds accordingly. They can influence their overall outcome by adjusting odds and limits that someone can place. And I think the more professional the sport, the higher the league and the more elite the participants, the closer to zero is the chance that they literally influence the outcome.

As you said lower leagues might be rather prone to any kind of manipulation, but serious bookmakers won't engage in that as they are already sitting on a goldmine and if it comes out, that goldmine would be closed for them immediately. Doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

[Baofeng]

They don't influence, their job is to released to the public and for the casinos to used their odds based on several factors, like winning percentage of the team, the standing and others. And as far as I know, they used modeling system to be at least fair when releasing the odds.

So there's no way that they an influence the outcome and I haven't heard any glitch or mistakes by any bookmakers are far as the odds are. So they double check everything before giving it to the casinos and then us bettors used that odds to stake our bets.

[viljy]

And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

An interesting question that I've been thinking about too. I often bet on weak teams, where their unexpected victory is beneficial to bookmakers (although bookmakers profit from any outcome). Well, I noticed that such paradoxical match outcomes happen almost every season, their share is sufficient to at least cover losses on other bets.
Can bookmakers be that powerful? In football, it is possible. This is the most popular game on the planet, and revenue, for example, when broadcasting matches, directly depends on the number of viewers, and the number of viewers strongly depends on whether they place bets. There are many relationships here.

Is there a sport in which it is almost 100% possible to exclude any influence from the outside on the results? Boxing - well, it's extremely doubtful. There are a lot of specially selected opponents. Most likely, there is the strongest influence from the outside.
So gradually, I came to the conclusion that Formula 1 is the least susceptible to manipulation. For reasons of too powerful opposing rivals. Well, obviously the bookmakers are too small in scale to influence the teams that contain automobile corporations. Multiply this by the ego of the pilots of the first magnitude.

[Lida93]

- does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?

I will not believe the author that bookmakers influences the outcome of a match because football is not gambling and every team and coach is fighting hard to see that they win the title at the end of the season for profit. Bookmakers are the ones to calculate the odds of an upcoming match which they are using some analysis on the clubs performance, head to head, the players playing and the strikers involved in the match if they are in form or not.

This is why I don't see any connections between the bookmakers are a match to be played. It might be so for a very poor country local match but not in a professional match that the players are not allowed to gamble. You should also note that football has a lot of players involved making it difficult for such to happen.

How long will the bookmakers keep influencing a club's match outcome and how long will the coach of the team be willing to allow his career to be continually to be dumped by bookmakers interest ? That's a big question to ponder on, which is why I would agree with you Frankolala  that bookmakers really don't have influence on the outcome of football matches, it could be in other sports but definitely not football.

Every coach want to be at the top of his career by winning matches which amounts to winning trophies and titles and this also is mutual inclusive to the players in the team. If such things are happening I do believe some sought of a whistle blower would have alarmed it. Perhaps, the said man in the purported video wasn't referring to elite leagues but those average leagues which public eyes has no much attention and interest on.

[crwth]

How much of that is even true? I don't think they should have that kind of power knowing that they don't even play or probably knows a lot of statistics (which is not bad but it shouldn't be a factor in the outcome of a match)

I will believe it if it's in some small-time competition or probably a school thing, but I don't think there would be many bookmakers there as well.

Do you have any specifics, OP?

[nimogsm]

There is some truth in this, but this certainly does not apply to top clubs or athletes. If we talk about the second third leagues and various dubious divisions, then yes, this can happen there, since matches can be negotiated with their referees, I think that this is big for someone secret, but accordingly, there are enough risks there, since the commissions can stop this (or maybe not) Much depends on the country where the bookmaker’s office is located.

[avp2306]

- does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?

I will not believe the author that bookmakers influences the outcome of a match because football is not gambling and every team and coach is fighting hard to see that they win the title at the end of the season for profit. Bookmakers are the ones to calculate the odds of an upcoming match which they are using some analysis on the clubs performance, head to head, the players playing and the strikers involved in the match if they are in form or not.

This is why I don't see any connections between the bookmakers are a match to be played. It might be so for a very poor country local match but not in a professional match that the players are not allowed to gamble. You should also note that football has a lot of players involved making it difficult for such to happen.

How long will the bookmakers keep influencing a club's match outcome and how long will the coach of the team be willing to allow his career to be continually to be dumped by bookmakers interest ? That's a big question to ponder on, which is why I would agree with you Frankolala  that bookmakers really don't have influence on the outcome of football matches, it could be in other sports but definitely not football.

Every coach want to be at the top of his career by winning matches which amounts to winning trophies and titles and this also is mutual inclusive to the players in the team. If such things are happening I do believe some sought of a whistle blower would have alarmed it. Perhaps, the said man in the purported video wasn't referring to elite leagues but those average leagues which public eyes has no much attention and interest on.

But if we think about it why does bookmakers do that? They don't have to do those things since all what they wanted is to get exposure from what they are promoting. Fixing matches will not be their main concern since they cannot earn huge from it. They provably earn more if they can legitimately scatter their exposure so this doubts from some people is actually don't have any sense.

I try to search some information regarding on this possibilities but it it always show up that Bookmakers don't engage with match fixing schemes since it will create a bad controversy on their business and this might create  a big issue to their company. And those possibilities they mention is kinda questionable and so far there's no proven scenario that coach or any personnel  is having a shady deals towards bookmakers.

[EarnOnVictor]

I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match.

As much as I do not want to side with the bookmakers, this allegation is senseless, how can a sport that is being viewed by many, with players and managers of the teams having different relationships with the bookies be influenced like that? Will they influence all of them to influence the outcome of a match? Fine, some players may be bribes, we've seen cases like that but they can't bribe everyone, and how will that entirely influence the outcome of the game?

Assuming the allegation is true, we have too many bookmakers, how can all of them influence the outcome of matches at once despite being rivals? That is not feasible.

What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries.

This salary payment can be somewhat true but there is more to that as the bookies can't take the whole credits. There are other sources of income for the clubs, but indeed, sponsors like the bookies play significant roles in their revenue. Notwithstanding, this can't influence the outcome of matches, it's illegal and their cooperation (both the club and the bookies) is a mutual sponsorship for adverts.

[Weawant]

I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

The bookmakers according to that which you have stated above obviously influence the outcome of games because there's no better way to put it than this of like you mentioned they literally dictate to the teams how to play so the expected possible outcome can be gotten. Since this isn't a public disclosure the bookmakers will continue to make good money off it but if it were a publicly disclosed information, then the bookmakers will obviously loose funds where the public knows the possible outcome of a game and spends all their money making a stake in it such that the outcome will be huge after which the casinos will suffer after withdrawals.

[Su-asa]

I don't think that's possible, I used to think that bookmakers can actually work together and probably bribe those officiating a match to change the outcome but if you give it a little thought you would come up with the realization that it's not possible because it's no legal to do such. If bookmakers can influence the outcome of certain games it would affect the reputation of some clubs, so the possibility of this is very low. The outcome of a match solely depends on what happens in the pitch and how the game is been played and bookmakers have no control over it.

[Samlucky O]

I can't really say that bookmakers influences the outcome of matches %100 but I believe it to be slightly true. Because the way some Match usually ends always baffles most people and makes them believe the Match could have been fixed or controlled by the bookmakers but there is no concrete prove. I have heard many people complain about this kind of situation but who will believe you when there is no evidence? but like I said before, even if it's true how can people believe when there is no evidence? I believe this usually happen in some local team just like @lovemayfamiles said. I think a thread similar to this was created some weeks ago that was related to this.

[Yatsan]

I recently watched an interesting video where the author claimed that in many cases it is not that difficult to predict the outcome of a sports match, because bookmakers are interested in a certain outcome of the match and implicitly influence the outcome of this match. I will not publish a link to this and other similar videos here, so as not to engage in free advertising.
What is important is something else. In the video, the author claimed that modern bookmakers are so powerful that they are actually the source of players' salaries. Most of the games that are included in the bookmaker's line are not completely honest, although this is not customary to talk about. According to the author, the team as a whole is hinted at how they should play so that the team's funding continues. This mainly concerned football.
By the way, as the author claims, if we take teams from lower divisions that are subsidized by local budgets, then there too it is often easy to predict the outcome of a match. There are local teams that at certain times stop being financed by local municipalities (in poor countries) and the teams simply "dump" the match. After all, what is the point of playing for a victory for a professional team if it understands that the money for financing it was either not allocated or was sharply reduced?
And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

Bookmakers are, in reality, businesses that attempt to rank races based on wins. You should balance the money spent on each side of the tournament to limit money laundering. Although these are important in ensuring they make a profit. However, the concept of them having a direct influence on the outcome of the tournament can be an exaggeration. This can be the cause of massive cheating in most sports. The biggest part of it is illegal and hard to hide Especially at the highest level

Major leagues and competitions, such as football, have strict rules and controls to prevent match fixing or manipulation. This is primarily because such activities infringe on the integrity of the game. Organizations like FIFA, UEFA, and national federations are investing much in cleaning up the sport. And while scandals like those of match fixing will have happened in the past, well known and penalized severely, The clearer the reaction will be. The harder it will be to analyze the findings missed.

However, more publicity or highly illegal sports sometimes results in monetary pressure or even fraud. But when the club is on its head due to financial problems, then perhaps the temptation might be there to throw matches or to get players involved in betting. It can especially be so in poor countries or lower leagues. The rules are not very tight regarding control.

If this is unique in this way, then the same pressures and potential losses could always be directed to other sports. For example, tennis has not been without its tournament scandals over the years, especially at grassroots competitions where most of its players earn nothing or very little.

I don't think that's possible, I used to think that bookmakers can actually work together and probably bribe those officiating a match to change the outcome but if you give it a little thought you would come up with the realization that it's not possible because it's no legal to do such. If bookmakers can influence the outcome of certain games it would affect the reputation of some clubs, so the possibility of this is very low. The outcome of a match solely depends on what happens in the pitch and how the game is been played and bookmakers have no control over it.

I have no doubt that it raises serious ethical and legal concerns for anyone to even suggest a bookmaker can actually affect the outcome of a match. The integrity of the sport is paramount. And widespread distortion will certainly damage the reputations of clubs and the sport itself.

Although there are very few cases of fixing matches, But they are always investigated and get pretty severe punishment. This accounts for all the efforts made to ensure a fair play of the game. The match's result will finally depend on the performance of players on field. And any intention of the bookmaker to distort may get exposed. Considering the fact that it is the sports agency who distorts what to do.

However, instability in financial matters for the lower divisions, as dealt with earlier, would portray deficits. Still, I believe it would be important to distinguish the experiences accumulated here from the professional sport experiences. Where most football is played fair and square and the unpredictability of games is what makes sports exciting for both fans and gamblers. Protecting privacy must always come first.

I can't really say that bookmakers influences the outcome of matches %100 but I believe it to be slightly true. Because the way some Match usually ends always baffles most people and makes them believe the Match could have been fixed or controlled by the bookmakers but there is no concrete prove. I have heard many people complain about this kind of situation but who will believe you when there is no evidence? but like I said before, even if it's true how can people believe when there is no evidence? I believe this usually happen in some local team just like @lovemayfamiles said. I think a thread similar to this was created some weeks ago that was related to this.

Although it is hard to identify the authority unmistakably. However, the notion that some matches are questionable raises questions in the minds of fans and bettors. Of course, sometimes the outcome of some games can be inconceivable. This is a reason for recommendations to create matches or multiplayer. But as you say, If there's no clear evidence These claims remain pure speculation. Especially in some local leagues. This can create an environment where doubts arise. Especially when there is financial instability. As we have seen in previous scandals, investigation of any allegations thorough detail is essential to the integrity of the sport.

I still feel that these are the essential debates that should help us analyze the problems of sports betting and other factors that lead to winning a match. Every individual needs to be cautious and encourage health care in all sporting events. For the eradication of problems that might occur

[mirakal]

I don't think that's possible, I used to think that bookmakers can actually work together and probably bribe those officiating a match to change the outcome but if you give it a little thought you would come up with the realization that it's not possible because it's no legal to do such. If bookmakers can influence the outcome of certain games it would affect the reputation of some clubs, so the possibility of this is very low. The outcome of a match solely depends on what happens in the pitch and how the game is been played and bookmakers have no control over it.

Since you mentioned that bribery is possible, we can also say that manipulation could exist as well. We might not always see these things because they’re not always obvious, but yes, it can definitely happen. 

However, I still believe that bookmakers are genuine in what they're doing and have no influence over the outcomes. They’re in this business for a reason and have gained a lot of users because gamblers trust them. Maybe some may engage in shady practices like you mentioned, but there are definitely reputable sites out there. That’s why choosing the right and trusted betting site is important—it can significantly influence results!

[Oluwa-btc]

And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

I see no reasons  why this should be effective in the aspect of football because the influence of dominance shown by most prominent team leaders is proven that bookmakers can't have such influence, but they could possibly have influence over teams that grant them access and if the author claims taking teams with lower division and low budget then they can influence them and as well the outcome of that match,so it's either when access is given to bookmakers they can alter the outcome of the match entirely.

[EarnOnVictor]

And what do you think - does the bookmaker influence the outcome of sports matches?
Is this situation different for different sports? Is football unique in this sense?

I see no reasons  why this should be effective in the aspect of football because the influence of dominance shown by most prominent team leaders is proven that bookmakers can't have such influence, but they could possibly have influence over teams that grant them access and if the author claims taking teams with lower division and low budget then they can influence them and as well the outcome of that match,so it's either when access is given to bookmakers they can alter the outcome of the match entirely.

This is just baseless, the bookmakers can't and will never influence the outcome of matches, why would they even do that? Look at it from this angle, if a bookmaker influences a certain team, what will be the gain or loss of other bookmakers when the team do not have the final say? Will they all do it? What are they competing with their rivals that made them that desperate? That means the bookmaker will just sacrifice for them for nothing.

And if they've been doing it, won't some of them be caught already like many players have been caught? Has any player ever mentioned a bookmaker to have influenced their matches? I've never read of that, only that some placers might have a direct link with some betting gangs and friend which make them commit some infractions and others so that their people may win.

But with bookies, there are many sports, game options, prematch and live-match bettings among others, how many people would they satisfactorily influence? I doubt this is feasible, we (customers and bookies) are all risking in sports and it will be a grave mistake for bookies to attempt that.