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Yes, I'm betting my esports bets and other kinds of bets on stake. I have no issues about it and maybe I am one of the many fortunate gamblers of not having any issues with withdrawals or my balances there. We have different experiences with the casinos that we're gambling with. We have to understand if the others have a genuine reason why they have those problems and complaints to the casino that they're gambling with. But we can also understand the frustration of a gambler of why they are making up issues and they have no one to blame with their losses for being unlucky.
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August 30, 2024, 07:23:48 PM |
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First of all, theymos himself advised that people can post things from fresh accounts if they don't want to expose their real account so no rules broken according to this forum so that's allowed.
About the accusations there are evidents people posted scam and refusals to withdrawal from reputable casinos in the past but I don't know whether they're part of their signature campaigns or not but if the accusation is valid then there's nothing to be blamed.
I didn't have any major incidents and even if it happened I will contact the support and wait for a while and if they refused without giving proper explanation or reasons then I don't have any obligation to post from my account.
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August 30, 2024, 07:46:27 PM |
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One important thing to note is that what one person has as an experience that is personal is different for another individual. Each gambler has their own experience, depending on their luck and strategy, or maybe how they engage with the site.
If a problem is ever to be met by any one with a gambling site, the best way to complain is openly and directly, through filing of a complaint with the aid of real account. Filing of complaint with an alternate or alt account will only raise suspicion and make less credible the complaint. As for the potential loss of advertising contracts it should not be an excuse to cover up a real problem. More important in the long run are honesty and transparency.
For complaints made without evidence, it is hard to tell how valid they are unless screenshots or some other kind of record would be present. If there really is an error or issue, prompt and open action will do much to correct the matter and has as a result that the site continues to keep a good name.
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August 30, 2024, 07:49:02 PM |
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If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site.
I'm not well sure about other people but if I've some issues from a platform and if I haven't broken their rules, which I never do, then always prefer to contact their customer support at their site and also do the same at their Telegram. It's not the right way to create an alt account in order to degrade a person or a site, only those do something like that who don't really care about ethics. Being part of a signature campaign doesn't mean that you can't complain about issues that you're facing, however it's always better to do it in ethically way rather than degrading them.
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August 30, 2024, 08:04:22 PM |
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Okay firstly, if a user creates new account to lay a complaint about an unfair situation they encountered with a casino company they represent in their main account or other casino companies advertising their signatures in the forum then it's left for the high ranked members of the forum to run an investigation to know if such claim is true or not and if the OP doesn't give any concrete evidence to back up their claims it means such complaints will be discarded by notable members of the forum. It is always hard for users making complaints about a bad activity of a casino company to use their main account because even if the casino is not the one they are advertising but they have this feelings that they can advertise such signature in the future so if they use their main account to lay such complaints it will certainly lead them to being ignored by the casino representative in the forum which will be difficult to include such user in advertising their signatures in the future. Whether you are representing the signature that you want to lay a complaint about or not it is good to expose any casino company that is trying to scam people so that more people don't fall a victim and people will become more cautious of that casino company There's nothing much to deliberate about a user reporting a casino company, if the complaints of the accusers lacks merit then the complaints can just die a natural death without much discussion by forum members.
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Saint-loup
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August 30, 2024, 09:38:21 PM Last edit: September 01, 2024, 07:12:57 PM by Saint-loup |
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You should have made a poll instead of a classic thread. People won't admit in a post they don't gamble(or very few times) on the casino they promote actually, even with an alt account. But if you look carefully at the messages posted in this section you will observe that most people don't use the casino they are promoting and don't gamble at all (or very few). I have noticed this in all campaigns I have participated till now. I think it's a bit sad, because you can't be a good ambassador if you don't know the platform you're promoting and you can't know it very well if you don't use it seriously IMO.
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Perfectbaby
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August 30, 2024, 09:41:41 PM |
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Let's discuss this matter.
Well I do use local gambling site and as a matter facts they are not running any advertisement here in the forum so, its can't complained about them here but to chat their live support service to have my issues sorted out. But on other hands I don't see any reason why people will just come and raised false accusation towards most of the well known gambling site just because they are paid to do that. I can categorically say that this are just people who known and are having kinds of challenges with the progress of these site maybe they needed something to bring down the names of these site while theirs takes over them but fails to understand that when trust has been established it will be hard for people to leave that gambling site to another with the said trust being developed.
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Strongkored
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August 30, 2024, 10:10:42 PM |
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If yes what is your experience because I am quite surprised seeing lot of people coming out with accusations of these gambling site, with stories that is very hard to believe even most of them do not usually post evidence or screenshots to prove themselves right about their claims. If there is no evidence then you don't need to believe it because accusations without evidence are very difficult to believe, so ignore it because it could be just a complaint from a player who is disappointed because he lost big. If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site. Just tell the truth because I believe a trusted CM will not kick out his campaign members just because they complain about the casino, because how the CM deals with complaints like this also reflects the reputation of the casino. This post was as a results of complaint on the gambling section and it took less than 24hrs we have heard different complaint about some of the reputable gambling site over here, and what surprises me is that this people in no place boom out to the forum, and my other question is that how did they know this sites are running promotion over here if these accounts aren't alts that already active promoting this site here or do you in any way believed that they are all paid poster to tarnished the image of other casinos?
Trusted casinos do not mean they are perfect because mistakes may still occur that disappoint players so they complain just pay attention to how the complaint is, even if it is from a new member that you call alt but if there is evidence and it is strong enough to prove the complaint then the alt or the original account is not important because what is important is that there is a complaint and the casino is obliged to resolve it properly.
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August 30, 2024, 10:15:19 PM |
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If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site.
I'm not well sure about other people but if I've some issues from a platform and if I haven't broken their rules, which I never do, then always prefer to contact their customer support at their site and also do the same at their Telegram. It's not the right way to create an alt account in order to degrade a person or a site, only those do something like that who don't really care about ethics. Being part of a signature campaign doesn't mean that you can't complain about issues that you're facing, however it's always better to do it in ethically way rather than degrading them. If you have valid complaint and legit snapshots, why would you create an alt account just to complain? Because the truth is - people will help you in resolving your issue especially if the site is found here in the forum. So no need to be afraid that they will sanction you or anything, if you believe you've done nothing wrong. Sometimes, there are some loopholes in the system and they don't know it.
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August 30, 2024, 10:34:52 PM |
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However, as users who are promoting the casino, we can prove that the casino itself is legitimate. We might seem biased since we are promoting them, but as long as other users share their honest positive experiences with a certain casino, it would demonstrate that the casino is legit. Newbie accounts can be easily created, so their reputation isn't something we should necessarily trust, unless they provide evidence, which, in most cases, they don’t.
Sometimes the newbies who claim that the casino has wronged them might not be completely wrong (that's for those who provide slide evidence of the claim). You know that in some cases two people can be making use of the same casino and having different user experiences because I see everything perfect and the casino is treating me well, which does not mean that the other player can't be having a bad experience; it's just a matter of digging deep based on the evidence on the ground and not to completely conclude based on others reviews.
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August 30, 2024, 10:41:19 PM |
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Uhm this is a very tricky one because I can't lie it's been a while since I used the casino I am advertising for. Recently i opened a new casino site because of their new reward system and this is the reason why many gamblers uses several casino platforms to gamble. This is because they dont want to rely on no one casino platform for too long when they dont get new features that reward them or benefit to them. Although it is still possible to use multiple casinos to gamble. One may have high odds, the other may have simple aviator games, and other simple games one can play and win. Its just based on what game we want to gamble we can choose a casino that best served that purpose.
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August 31, 2024, 03:18:23 AM |
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even most of them do not usually post evidence or screenshots to prove themselves right about their claims.
Then you don't have to believe them. People can fabricate fake experiences to damage the reputation of a popular casino; that's normal. However, as users who are promoting the casino, we can prove that the casino itself is legitimate. We might seem biased since we are promoting them, but as long as other users share their honest positive experiences with a certain casino, it would demonstrate that the casino is legit. Newbie accounts can be easily created, so their reputation isn't something we should necessarily trust, unless they provide evidence, which, in most cases, they don’t. I've been quite annoyed over the past few days because there are a lot of new users stating that they are having problems and taking their complaints to the forums with the casinos that we are associated with, and they are making it sound like it's true but not providing any evidence. It's clearly defamation if they don't provide anything to justify their complaints, maybe they're trying to bring our casino down on purpose. It could be an attempt the squander the competition but honestly it would be a very sad attempt in order to do so lol. I mean why would you go through all this effort for what? Some folks just don’t have anything better to do with their time im afraid.
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August 31, 2024, 04:39:38 AM |
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If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site.
Op you did answered your question from the begining of this paragraph quoted and it's simple. You don't expect a user who is advertising the same casino in their signature campaign to use same account to speak ill of the casino. That's a pure lack of professionalism in my opinion, using a newly created account to express your grievance anonymously makes a broader sense than the latter despite fears of been kicked out of the campaign eventually. The challenge that may arise there is when the complain is coming from a newly created account and without pictorial evidence of the alleged claims it causes some drawbacks as members opinions and responses in the forum have been mainly influenced by the reputation of the comolainers' account. Look where the knowledge is lacking from them, if I were to be them I won't come create a post against a gambling site I am promoting instead to me it's best advisable to reach out to their manager who is in all connections with the project team, with this their request could be quickly responded couples with their reputation on forum it builds solidity of quick response than creating alternative account which in turns as a newbie would be a kind of trash attention to be listened to the casino or even the manager. Well, I think I have to agree with you here. I still remember a user on this forum from my country, he had an issue on his casino account and casino happens to be the one he is also promoting on his signature space. He couldn't resolve the issue by himself and his money was stocked on the casino so he consulted the signature manager who helped to escalate the issue and the case was resolved. I actually suspect that some of these newbie account creating those scam accusation and complaints topics are alt account but there's not valid proof to back up.
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My thing is not casino games, my thing is poker. And as I have repeatedly said there is no point of comparison between any crypto site and sites like Pokerstars. What I do when I promote a casino is to test the service. I make a deposit, I see how the casino works, and what it offers, and I bet. But after that I don't bet anymore. So I don't use it often. I actually suspect that some of these newbie account creating those scam accusation and complaints topics are alt account but there's not valid proof to back up.
Yes, but they don't have to be alts from people participating in the campaign, they can be other forum members who prefer to use the alt for other reasons. Or alts from competitors to throw shit on the casino, as has been discussed. It is difficult to establish with certainty.
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If yes what is your experience because I am quite surprised seeing lot of people coming out with accusations of these gambling site, with stories that is very hard to believe even most of them do not usually post evidence or screenshots to prove themselves right about their claims. If there is no evidence then you don't need to believe it because accusations without evidence are very difficult to believe, so ignore it because it could be just a complaint from a player who is disappointed because he lost big. If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site. Just tell the truth because I believe a trusted CM will not kick out his campaign members just because they complain about the casino, because how the CM deals with complaints like this also reflects the reputation of the casino. This post was as a results of complaint on the gambling section and it took less than 24hrs we have heard different complaint about some of the reputable gambling site over here, and what surprises me is that this people in no place boom out to the forum, and my other question is that how did they know this sites are running promotion over here if these accounts aren't alts that already active promoting this site here or do you in any way believed that they are all paid poster to tarnished the image of other casinos?
Trusted casinos do not mean they are perfect because mistakes may still occur that disappoint players so they complain just pay attention to how the complaint is, even if it is from a new member that you call alt but if there is evidence and it is strong enough to prove the complaint then the alt or the original account is not important because what is important is that there is a complaint and the casino is obliged to resolve it properly. So far it's very rare to see these casinos come to respond to any complaint from these new accusations, over times this shows that they don't longer care about what people passes and or seems these cases aren't real and even with the evidence some of them may provide it seems not to be enough for the casino representative to respond toward the issues at hands. Well, it really matters be it new and old account, the new account stands more chances to be easily honored but in other words if they aren't using their original profile then we can assumed that it's a paid post instead of mere complaint about their experience and problems they are facing over there.
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August 31, 2024, 02:58:16 PM |
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If you uses the site and find any errors or have issues do you go ahead creating alt account to come lodge complain here? And because you are wearing their signature you are afraid whether you would be kicked out from the advertisement without getting paid, if so why don't you come complain with your real account instead of making new account to talk about the casinos/gambling site.
Op you did answered your question from the begining of this paragraph quoted and it's simple. You don't expect a user who is advertising the same casino in their signature campaign to use same account to speak ill of the casino. That's a pure lack of professionalism in my opinion, using a newly created account to express your grievance anonymously makes a broader sense than the latter despite fears of been kicked out of the campaign eventually. The challenge that may arise there is when the complain is coming from a newly created account and without pictorial evidence of the alleged claims it causes some drawbacks as members opinions and responses in the forum have been mainly influenced by the reputation of the comolainers' account. Look where the knowledge is lacking from them, if I were to be them I won't come create a post against a gambling site I am promoting instead to me it's best advisable to reach out to their manager who is in all connections with the project team, with this their request could be quickly responded couples with their reputation on forum it builds solidity of quick response than creating alternative account which in turns as a newbie would be a kind of trash attention to be listened to the casino or even the manager. Well, I think I have to agree with you here. I still remember a user on this forum from my country, he had an issue on his casino account and casino happens to be the one he is also promoting on his signature space. He couldn't resolve the issue by himself and his money was stocked on the casino so he consulted the signature manager who helped to escalate the issue and the case was resolved. I actually suspect that some of these newbie account creating those scam accusation and complaints topics are alt account but there's not valid proof to back up. We can assume that those newbie accounts might be that old time users of this forum. It is really just that they dont really like on making use of their main accounts on which we know that this forum is really that highly reactive when it comes to mistakes and potential misinformation which would be leading to red trust of the account. This is why they will really be deciding on creating new accounts and wont really be tending to put their main accounts in harm but actually there's no harm on using the main account as long the complaint does have that solid evidence. Going back into the question if im using the gambling platform or site that shows into my signature space. Most of the time, its not.. but i do have tested out at least on which i do know on what it is feeling like on playing the platform. As signature participant then it will really be that important or relevant that you should be wary at least on the site that you are promoting so that just in case there's someone who would be that asking some questions then you could be able to answer it out and provide out legit and right information which in compared to those people who doesnt know on what the yare promoting then they might mislead other people on the time that they would be asked for some information. So its really that important even though not all would really be mindful on doing such act.
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August 31, 2024, 03:02:40 PM |
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have an account but don't often play on the sites I promote, almost all sites that have a signature on this forum I have an account but I don't play 100% at one time or scheduled, I only play when I have free time and want a slightly challenging game with bets responding to the problem of people reporting gambling sites with new accounts that are not real I think it's natural if they have evidence that is clear but it would be better to use a real account from the forum so that the problems that occur on the site in question are clear
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August 31, 2024, 03:04:49 PM |
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It could be an attempt the squander the competition but honestly it would be a very sad attempt in order to do so lol. I mean why would you go through all this effort for what? Some folks just don’t have anything better to do with their time im afraid.
Before, this kind of strategy of casino to bring down competitors is very popular but right now I doubt there’s still casino that do this since there’s already a lot of reputable casino available right now compared before that only few brand is at the top that makes it a common target for small casino. Most of the scam accusation in the forum scam accusation board mostly from user that violates casino ToS through bonus abused or other method to take advantage against the casino. Only few case are valid and the rest are those users seeking support for their abuse.
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August 31, 2024, 03:10:40 PM |
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If the topic of promoting a gambling site comes up then I must say yes I promote a gambling site. I personally do not promote any gambling sites offline but I promote a gambling site online by promoting signature campaigns on bitcoin forums. Since I am not in a signature camp, I am currently working on a popular gambling site (Rollbit). I do not promote any other site apart from this site.
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August 31, 2024, 03:16:30 PM |
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Not promoting anything at the moment, but when I was, I used the site at least once per week. You have to know from your own experience what you promote, that's what I think.
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