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September 05, 2024, 10:00:53 PM
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Those are found to be registered with VPN won't account be penalized after knowing that those people uses VPN to bicut the registration. Most of the gambling only allows people to access site through their registered site anything more than this could restricted after knowing it's not their original countries and they signed up again using the original country they would get ban.

They definitely will get penalized - the ToS stated that aside being a citizen if you “reside” in any of those restricted country you’re no supposed to use the site and if you go ahead and bypass it by using a vpn you should be ready to face the consequences for your actions. And if anything happens you surely won’t be able to do anything about it because if was clearly stated but you decided to ignore and go on with it.

4 weeks is not a long time to wait - I’m currently on hold and waiting for them to extend so I can see if my country falls under those allowed so that I can finally create an account and see how the site works.
That's the only thing to do now, besides everyone is familiar with the TOS although many don't bother check-in but immediately I try a casino and see my country is restricted I won't hesitate checking their terms to know if they allow the use of VPN just to stay guided because it's not nice to win and not be able to withdraw just because you didn't check the rules. I think icopress has already stated that the casino is expanding their license 4 weeks time and I believe when they do lots of countries including mine I guess would be added to that list because my country is one hell of a casino friendly place and also we have the large market to make any business boom.

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September 05, 2024, 10:07:28 PM
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Earlier it was written that in 4 weeks the list of available countries will be significantly expanded.

So if you are having problems accessing the site now, wait a bit, maybe the expanded list will change this situation. I also noticed that some browsers (like Opera) do not even display the site, they write about the problem with access, while Chrome opens the site without any problems, but does not allow you to register without a VPN.
In the previous post - I have advised any user not to register their account if they are in a country that is restricted by this casino. Forcing to register an account using a VPN can lead to blocking and users should be aware of that from the start.

No one is forcing anyone to register with this casino if you are in a restricted country - so if they want to gamble, then consider another casino that does not restrict your country from creating an account. This is much better to avoid problem.

I think that the countries that are restricted are countries that are rampant in online gambling, just like the country I belong to. Since there was a new admin in our government, the promotion of gambling on social media that we have here has become rampant.

Because well-known influencers have become too exposed and even unknown ones are promoting online gambling that is mostly illegal casinos, although for me this crypto gambling is fine because most of them are legal and reputable.

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September 05, 2024, 10:22:26 PM
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I think that the countries that are restricted are countries that are rampant in online gambling, just like the country I belong to. Since there was a new admin in our government, the promotion of gambling on social media that we have here has become rampant.

Because well-known influencers have become too exposed and even unknown ones are promoting online gambling that is mostly illegal casinos, although for me this crypto gambling is fine because most of them are legal and reputable.
Did the casino got operational permit from your country if yes and they obtain a license from your country to operate smoothly then what else you can go ahead gambling in that casino but howbeit, if your country is among the restrictive geopolitical zone that cannot permitted or allowed to gamble from it then I didn't see any reason why you should create accounts to gamble however, in terms and condition if stated that the above mention countries in ToS are not permitted to gamble or create account in the gambling site then what else it is better to avoid them otherwise even though you use an IP to bicut the registration processes whenever that country is permitted if login there will still be problem assessing your account because the previously used up in signing up their account has been registered over there so there will be a problem to access it therefore it is very important to avoid it than using an IP to bicut the internet processes to register it.

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September 05, 2024, 10:47:42 PM
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The site is nice. But many countries are in the blocklist of the casino website and that is not good so they should unrestricte them for people  to participate. Well I don't why so many countries are restricted. Though the design and the graphic work of the casino is good. Since you have taken one of the best in the forum as your manager, you are good to go. Let's propagate the good news to the world and beyond. You are welcome.
it's most likely has something to do with their license provider and the regulation they follow. one thing they could do if they want to cater to countries that are restricted on their main website is to create a mirror website that would allow gamblers from countries that are restricted on their main website to access and gamble on the mirror wesbite, a lot of casino do this and if they want to increase their target audience they could do what I just mentioned.

I think this is one of the wisest steps the casino has taken since the beginning, which is to prevent registration for citizens of banned countries, unlike many platforms that allow users from banned countries to register, deposit and play without showing any warning, then as soon as the user wins and wants to make a withdrawal, the first problems surface under the pretext that he is from a banned region. This method was and still is one of the scam methods adopted by less honest platforms than others.

On the other hand, I think it is good to show the list of banned countries without the need to register an account to get it, at the same time it is possible to activate notifications to announce new countries added to the list or countries that are no longer on it. This would be good to encourage users to follow the updates even if they are from banned regions that cannot use it.
On that ground it is good that they ban both the citizens of the ban countries so if anyone used VPN to bypass the registration process and succeeded and deposit funds to the casino and play games and wins then when it is time to withdraw and it is stated that he can't withdraw because the KYC is violating the team is the casino then the Player would not accused or blamed the casino but himself. And as for me it is better for those who have used VPN to register not to deposit and play games because their winnings is at owner's risk. But since the casino is a business form which needs a large number of gamblers across the world, they should reduce the total number of ban countries because it is too much. Though it is their decision and for the health (safety) of their company.

As far as I know, the licensing authority is primarily responsible for the list of banned countries. The platform does not choose to ban countries at will, and from a business point of view, it is not in its interest to ban countries on a large scale because it would lose a large user base as well. Of course, this does not negate the existence of other factors on the basis of which countries are added to the ban list, including the local legislation of some countries, as some countries adopt strict laws and powers that prohibit or regulate gambling, and if the country considers gambling illegal, gambling platforms will prevent users from that country from accessing its services. Also, some countries may experience difficulties in processing electronic payments related to gambling, which prompts platforms to ban users from those countries.

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September 05, 2024, 10:58:32 PM
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On that ground it is good that they ban both the citizens of the ban countries so if anyone used VPN to bypass the registration process and succeeded and deposit funds to the casino and play games and wins then when it is time to withdraw and it is stated that he can't withdraw because the KYC is violating the team is the casino then the Player would not accused or blamed the casino but himself. And as for me it is better for those who have used VPN to register not to deposit and play games because their winnings is at owner's risk. But since the casino is a business form which needs a large number of gamblers across the world, they should reduce the total number of ban countries because it is too much. Though it is their decision and for the health (safety) of their company.
Good point. I don't think anyone would try to take such a risk of depositing and later cant be able to withdraw. I tried signing up just now and it is not possible, the more concern is that those who will be accepted into the campaign advertisement because they cant be able to use the platform right now and will not want to be introduced to their friends or family members since it has a lot of restrictions on many countries.

In general, I am saying that it will affect their marketing unless they have a specific region the are targeting their users to come from. Meanwhile, this can be easily fixed by the developers. They just need to grant permissions within the weeks so that they can fully start operation.
Many people are signing up because of the campaign participation and they are not signing up to gamble in the site. And add it to what you just said, if those countries which is not ban have no many gamblers as the ban countries then the casino is still at the lose side. And one thing I discovered from casino business, the targeted audience should be at the countries with the highest gambling rate and I believed strongly that most of those countries under ban by MonkeyTilt.com are well known countries of gambling. And I will usey country as a good example to others. I can even say gambling in my country is legalized. But as I said the health or the precautions of the casino means a lot to them so let them do the filtering.
The team is not saying anything about the ban. Although some companies find it difficult to accept realty at the end of they day they will realize the sad truth. Exactly what you pointed out, that most of the countries that are on ban are countries with the highest recorded gambling activities. Perhaps their service is not for all, since they may be trying to filter the countries they want their service to but for the sake of the campaigners who are instructed to register on the platform, something should be done about it.

Also, people who are on the forum who would want to use the platform for gambling may find it difficult as may gamblers here are from the countries that were banned from the platform. If people on this platform cant use their services how can others see a reason to use it as the advert is now here?

There are specific places where we restrict players to stay in compliance with gambling regulations. Please know that we’re continuously working to expand our available regions.
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September 05, 2024, 11:34:26 PM
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I like the fact that you've got a bunch of ready translation for the page for many locals. It's a plus for me.

Yeah! but it doesn't include Bahasa Indonesia, even though we have a huge gambler base here.
I have to recheck and you're right that they don't have it. Don't worry the representative is active here so I guess that it will be added soon. Otherwise, there's some issue for them within that region and so they can't add the local language.

Welcome monkeytilt.  Cool
I thought that I'd see that girl on the welcoming page. Kidding aside, I like the fact that you've got a bunch of ready translation for the page for many locals. It's a plus for me.
Poker is about to come soon and what about that crypto page? is it going to be about futures just like the other casinos are having or this is going to be an integrated exchange?

We have a ton of stuff in the works. I can't say anything about our crypto page at the moment, you'll just have to wait and see Wink
You don't have to unveil anything. Looking forward to that.  Wink


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If I understand correctly, kyc is mandatory, op? if so, what are the prerequisites for withdrawals and promos? do we just fill out a simple form or submission of documents are needed as well? maybe you have verification levels or something 🤔

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If I understand correctly, kyc is mandatory, op? if so, what are the prerequisites for withdrawals and promos? do we just fill out a simple form or submission of documents are needed as well? maybe you have verification levels or something 🤔


We have several levels of KYC on the site that we enforce for compliance with gambling regulations. You can participate in promotions by registering for an account and completing the wagering requirements for the promotion. We have a lot of promotions going on at all times, so keep up to date on all our social media accounts to stay in the loop!

For more KYC and deposit/withdrawal information you can read more at the following URL: https://www.monkeytilt.com/en/terms-of-service?tab=terms-of-service

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Hi, Head of VIP Avante here helping Zoo out tonight..

Just to build on an earlier discussion re: restricted territories etc...

At MonkeyTilt our default will always be to pay YOU guys YOUR funds when possible. We're an online casino built by players first, and know how insane it is when sites hide behind predatory KYC practices to withhold players from their winnings. In cases where TOS is violated that doesn't involve bonus abuse or any other exploitations, we will look for every reason possible to pay the player before taking any appropriate action on an account, and we hope this policy resonates with our players!

Hope to see more of you guys in our ecosystem, and I'm happy to setup some exclusive VIP Transfers for our BTC Talk fam, just slide into the DMs!

-Avante
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Hi, Head of VIP Avante here helping Zoo out tonight..

Just to build on an earlier discussion re: restricted territories etc...

At MonkeyTilt our default will always be to pay YOU guys YOUR funds when possible. We're an online casino built by players first, and know how insane it is when sites hide behind predatory KYC practices to withhold players from their winnings. In cases where TOS is violated that doesn't involve bonus abuse or any other exploitations, we will look for every reason possible to pay the player before taking any appropriate action on an account, and we hope this policy resonates with our players!

Hope to see more of you guys in our ecosystem, and I'm happy to setup some exclusive VIP Transfers for our BTC Talk fam, just slide into the DMs!

-Avante
That's good, atleast you guys are working tirelessly to ensure something is different because I have gone through the TOS and from everything I read I think your still major problem is the restrictions because they are so many that are being held back from engaging actively in your product and since it's an advertising you are doing that's really not good for business and for the KYC verification I think it should be lower a bit to maybe when am issue of low violation comes up before it's need should be paramount.

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September 06, 2024, 05:16:55 AM
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Hi, Head of VIP Avante here helping Zoo out tonight..

Just to build on an earlier discussion re: restricted territories etc...

At MonkeyTilt our default will always be to pay YOU guys YOUR funds when possible. We're an online casino built by players first, and know how insane it is when sites hide behind predatory KYC practices to withhold players from their winnings. In cases where TOS is violated that doesn't involve bonus abuse or any other exploitations, we will look for every reason possible to pay the player before taking any appropriate action on an account, and we hope this policy resonates with our players!

Hope to see more of you guys in our ecosystem, and I'm happy to setup some exclusive VIP Transfers for our BTC Talk fam, just slide into the DMs!

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That's good, atleast you guys are working tirelessly to ensure something is different because I have gone through the TOS and from everything I read I think your still major problem is the restrictions because they are so many that are being held back from engaging actively in your product and since it's an advertising you are doing that's really not good for business and for the KYC verification I think it should be lower a bit to maybe when am issue of low violation comes up before it's need should be paramount.


We understand all of your concerns and we hear them. We currently do EVERTHING in our power to ensure that we can reach as wide an audience as possible and will do everything we can for our players. Our KYC requirements are necessary for us to remain compliant with the regulations in the jurisdictions we service and we are continuously working to expand our offerings to more people. We will continue to update everyone as we keep expanding!

And just to reiterate what Avante touched on, reach out to us and we'll get some exclusive VIP transfers set up for our BTC Talk community.

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September 06, 2024, 10:54:27 AM
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In 4 weeks the project will have a new extended license and the list of available countries will be significantly expanded.
MonkeyTilt is basically a casino of which country?


Can you share the full list of restricted countries, because I could not find it on website myself?
This is available in their terms of service, under the 'about us' section on the website;

icopress, The countries highlighted here, if a user outside of these countries wants to gamble on this site using vpn, will they support it? I'm asking this because I couldn't find anything about using vpn in their ToS.


Here they said that if kyc verification is not done then they will limit fund withdrawal.  How much $ is this limit?  How much $ can a non verified user withdraw funds?
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In 4 weeks the project will have a new extended license and the list of available countries will be significantly expanded.
MonkeyTilt is basically a casino of which country?


Can you share the full list of restricted countries, because I could not find it on website myself?
This is available in their terms of service, under the 'about us' section on the website;

icopress, The countries highlighted here, if a user outside of these countries wants to gamble on this site using vpn, will they support it? I'm asking this because I couldn't find anything about using vpn in their ToS.


Here they said that if kyc verification is not done then they will limit fund withdrawal.  How much $ is this limit?  How much $ can a non verified user withdraw funds?

Hey,

This is just a disclaimer for outlier cases.

At MonkeyTilt we firmly believe that your money is your money.

I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.

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September 06, 2024, 01:12:12 PM
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This is just a disclaimer for outlier cases.

At MonkeyTilt we firmly believe that your money is your money.

I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.

-Avante
KYC nowadays is like a safe policy for platforms to defend their platforms and CEOs because there were and will be more attacks, lawsuits against CEOs of centralized platforms regarding to Money Laundering and AML policy, KYC procedure on centralized platforms.

Your reply sounds good as in 'normal' situations, users will be approved for withdrawal requests even KYC is in progress. Only cases (you said outliers) with possible strong signals of violations, criminals will have problems with Withdrawals without KYC or not completed KYC.

Any further explain on automatic system trigger around 2k, 3k, or will it be triggered with increment of 1k?

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September 06, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
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I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.
It is good to hear that, but many of us cant use MonkeyTilt because of country restrictions and I didnt hear clear answer from you guys if usage of VPN services is allowed or not.
I would like to test out sportsbook and see if I can find better odds and more markets that are not available in my daily casinos.

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September 07, 2024, 02:24:28 AM
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This is just a disclaimer for outlier cases.

At MonkeyTilt we firmly believe that your money is your money.

I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.

-Avante
KYC nowadays is like a safe policy for platforms to defend their platforms and CEOs because there were and will be more attacks, lawsuits against CEOs of centralized platforms regarding to Money Laundering and AML policy, KYC procedure on centralized platforms.

Your reply sounds good as in 'normal' situations, users will be approved for withdrawal requests even KYC is in progress. Only cases (you said outliers) with possible strong signals of violations, criminals will have problems with Withdrawals without KYC or not completed KYC.

Any further explain on automatic system trigger around 2k, 3k, or will it be triggered with increment of 1k?



While we would like to, we cannot disclose how our KYC triggers are set up. This is to prevent people from abusing the KYC systems we have in place.

- Zoo
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September 07, 2024, 02:27:47 AM
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I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.
It is good to hear that, but many of us cant use MonkeyTilt because of country restrictions and I didnt hear clear answer from you guys if usage of VPN services is allowed or not.
I would like to test out sportsbook and see if I can find better odds and more markets that are not available in my daily casinos.

VPNs are not allowed on our platform. However, I would like to reiterate what Avante said above. We believe that your money is yours and err on the side of paying you out above all else.

- Zoo
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September 07, 2024, 03:18:24 AM
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I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.
It is good to hear that, but many of us cant use MonkeyTilt because of country restrictions and I didnt hear clear answer from you guys if usage of VPN services is allowed or not.
I would like to test out sportsbook and see if I can find better odds and more markets that are not available in my daily casinos.

VPNs are not allowed on our platform. However, I would like to reiterate what Avante said above. We believe that your money is yours and err on the side of paying you out above all else.

- Zoo
Looks like with many restrictions from countries around the world and there are few that your site allows  to register and play also not letting the use of VPNs, you may have a little area of luring players.

but welcome to the community and hope you will lessen the hardship of creating account from some countries.

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September 07, 2024, 06:20:49 AM
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This is just a disclaimer for outlier cases.

At MonkeyTilt we firmly believe that your money is your money.

I think the automatic system trigger kicks in around 2k or 3k, but again, worst case scenarios, we err on the side of paying you out first, and asking questions later, to ensure that your money is your money.

-Avante
KYC nowadays is like a safe policy for platforms to defend their platforms and CEOs because there were and will be more attacks, lawsuits against CEOs of centralized platforms regarding to Money Laundering and AML policy, KYC procedure on centralized platforms.

Your reply sounds good as in 'normal' situations, users will be approved for withdrawal requests even KYC is in progress. Only cases (you said outliers) with possible strong signals of violations, criminals will have problems with Withdrawals without KYC or not completed KYC.

Any further explain on automatic system trigger around 2k, 3k, or will it be triggered with increment of 1k?



While we would like to, we cannot disclose how our KYC triggers are set up. This is to prevent people from abusing the KYC systems we have in place.

- Zoo

Yeah, we know that you can't disclose how your fraud department looks or trigger an alarm for any of your customers, we understand that.

We only hope that if you request for a KYC, our personal documents will also be protected by your platform or if you hire a third party to handle it. There are gamblers that are more willing to submit, but we just want to hear that you taken care of our personal information very well.

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September 07, 2024, 07:30:09 AM
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Yeah, we know that you can't disclose how your fraud department looks or trigger an alarm for any of your customers, we understand that.

We only hope that if you request for a KYC, our personal documents will also be protected by your platform or if you hire a third party to handle it. There are gamblers that are more willing to submit, but we just want to hear that you taken care of our personal information very well.

To be honest, I'm not even sure how safe my data is in the bank, because I heard about cases where bank databases were sold on the darknet. Although the bank denied it and claimed that they are able to protect their clients' data. You know what I mean...

VPNs are not allowed on our platform. However, I would like to reiterate what Avante said above. We believe that your money is yours and err on the side of paying you out above all else.

- Zoo

Then it remains to wait until the list of available countries is expanded.

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