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September 04, 2024, 12:43:12 PM
Last edit: September 04, 2024, 03:23:31 PM by Kelward
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some beggars that gambles and I've often wondered why they do so. I know that people give beggars and destitutes money to eat and take care of their other basic needs like soap to bath and medicine Incase they don't feel well. And seeing them in lotto kiosks that are very rampant in the cities to bet makes me to wonder if it's not misplaced priorities for them.

I understand that most poor people are looking for shortcuts to riches and they see gambling as a get rich quick scheme. But most of them are ignorant of the house edge over gamblers and it means that winning is not easy.

I believe that beggars don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a beggar that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?











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September 04, 2024, 01:01:34 PM
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some bergers that gambles and I've often wondered why they do so. I know that people give bergers and destitutes money to eat and take care of their other basic needs like soap to bath and medicine Incase they don't feel well. And seeing them in lotto kiosks that are very rampant in the cities to bet makes me to wonder if it's not misplaced priorities for them.

I understand that most poor people are looking for shortcuts to riches and they see gambling as a get rich quick scheme. But most of them are ignorant of the house edge over gamblers and it means that winning is not easy.

I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
At first let me correct this mindset that people do have that there are specific people who gambles for pleasure or fun. If you must know every body, I mean you and I gambles for profits and not for pleasure because you can't afford keep wasting your money to gamble if you weren't aiming at something. I must say that people uses fun to cover up their gambling characters because they would always term it to be fun, have you ever seen someone who gambles and win after that he returns the winning back to the gambling without cashing out or using the money to gamble again? To me I will say No because everyone is aiming at winning money, no matter how it is being rephrase or twisted we are all gambling for profit and not lose.

Back to the beger; to me nothing is wrong if someone is gambling provided he or she is doing it at moderate then nothing is wrong there. Who knows if his luck could shine from there and became something else? You know most begers are the people who are most fortunate to win because they does it with mindset of changing their situation because they are also tired of their lives, begging from place to place and from person to person and if s/he or decides to gamble then it's fine but let it not be that they are gambling out of control.

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September 04, 2024, 01:07:03 PM
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No, wonder he still beggers.

I usually, never give money to begger. Buts, I more prefer to give some help for the poor people who are not begging. At least with such hard condition, they still want to work even the income was small rather than a beggers while the option is still many.

In here, most beggers getting comfortable because easy money. Some beggers, even have house and cars..... That's the reason. If beggers gambling, man that's f*ck up.....

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September 04, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Last edit: September 04, 2024, 01:44:53 PM by Fiatless
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I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
Based on my views, a gambler should have a source of income. This is to avoid begging or engaging in criminal activities to gamble. However, some people are professional beggars and see it as a major source of income. India has the highest number of beggars and
I heard that some of them are rich. Some beggars in my country have bank accounts to receive transfers from givers. So that's their job.

I would be concerned if a beggar wasted his money on alcohol or drugs. And I would also not be comfortable I'd he is a gambling addict. But if he decides to use some part of the money he gets to gamble, that's his business. He might win a jackpot one day.

However, the focus of every beggar is to get a job and stop asking for alms. Begging is not a job; nobody should take it as employment.

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September 04, 2024, 01:17:22 PM
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I wondered what you meant by bergers. I have only heard of berger and that's a disease. I quickly realized you mean beggar.

Although I don't want to take away from beggars their freedom, I think if there is still left a little sense of responsibility in them, they should not gamble the money that they only begged from other people. Of course they're free to do whatever they want with their money, but it is misplaced for them to prefer to gamble what they could have saved or spent on something else more important.

Their existence is dependent on other people's generosity. The least that they can do with their money is to spend them responsibly.
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September 04, 2024, 01:26:27 PM
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I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
If I see such beggar, I would not give him funds anymore since he chooses to gamble with the funds people gave to him out of pity. The beggar is gambling for profit and I don't think that he is gambling for fun, if not he would know that he does not have any money and shouldn't gamble with the little he got from people's generousity.

The beggar is just throwing away the money he got because he might keep on gambling without hitting the jackpot and the worst of it would be if he becomes addicted, it means that he is finished and the money he gets from begging will not satisfy his gambling urge. Anyone that cannot take care of his own daily needs should not gamble at all but think of how he can leave his poverty state.

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September 04, 2024, 01:32:51 PM
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some bergers...

What you could do is teach yourself to write well and make sure at least before writing a title that what you write is correct. What you mean is “beggars”, come on, correct the title.

Leaving this aside, I do not enter into the moral question. Beggars often have psychological problems and addictions, of which gambling can be one more through which they try to forget about the shitty life they lead, and I don't think a moral judgment is right here.

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September 04, 2024, 01:37:34 PM
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What you wrote has been answered and that is the point and reasonable reason why the Berger group or tribe has the desire to gamble.

I understand that most poor people are looking for shortcuts to riches and they see gambling as a get rich quick scheme. But most of them are ignorant of the house edge over gamblers and it means that winning is not easy.

Another reason is that they don't understand the meaning of the risks of gambling, they only think that gambling can change their decent lives, like most people living in urban areas, the actual fact is that this is not the case, quite the opposite.

But I also wonder, if there are Berger tribes who are involved in the world of gambling, usually those who live in the mountains are generally busy with their lives and herding activities, It is very rare for Berger's group to be involved in gambling, even if there is one that can be counted on one hand and whatever the reason they gamble, they want to try their luck at gambling, even if the opposite happens.

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September 04, 2024, 01:50:44 PM
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Bergers are those that are rearing sheep. You need to correct it to beggars which are people that peg for money. Some are even homeless.

I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
I may feel like he does not understand what gambling is. I can ask him questions and see his replies. Question like did he think he can make money from gambling. I will advice him. If I see him gambling again, I will stop giving him money. He can use the strength he is using to gamble to work. He can get a job and start working.

This is not common in my area. I have not even seen something like this before. But people that I called beggars are people that something happened to in a way they are unable to work because of their disabilities. I can not give money to anyone that is complete and physically fit.

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There is always a prejudice from poor people “who knows by placing a lottery bet can win” maybe they think it can change their fate, and usually poor people are better off holding hunger than not placing a lottery bet.

I will look at the situation of the poor person, if he is not a gambler then I will give whatever help he asks for, but if he is often given money whose intention is to eat or other needs instead of using gambling then I will not give it anymore... Maybe I will advise him, that gambling when there is no money should not be forced.

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September 04, 2024, 02:44:05 PM
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I wondered what you meant by bergers. I have only heard of berger and that's a disease. I quickly realized you mean beggar.

Although I don't want to take away from beggars their freedom, I think if there is still left a little sense of responsibility in them, they should not gamble the money that they only begged from other people. Of course they're free to do whatever they want with their money, but it is misplaced for them to prefer to gamble what they could have saved or spent on something else more important.

Their existence is dependent on other people's generosity. The least that they can do with their money is to spend them responsibly.

I was also searching the google what he meant and only found that disease. Jesus. I was assuming this is the kind of people who may be from a country I don't know. If I didn't read the messages below I wouldn't find out.

Because they have nothing to lose seems a fair examination of the situation. Seeing them only have that kind of opportunity to get out of the situation, will be the only option, and winning in a lottery will be the biggest relief.

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I wondered what you meant by bergers. I have only heard of berger and that's a disease. I quickly realized you mean beggar.

Although I don't want to take away from beggars their freedom, I think if there is still left a little sense of responsibility in them, they should not gamble the money that they only begged from other people. Of course they're free to do whatever they want with their money, but it is misplaced for them to prefer to gamble what they could have saved or spent on something else more important.

Their existence is dependent on other people's generosity. The least that they can do with their money is to spend them responsibly.

I was also searching the google what he meant and only found that disease. Jesus. I was assuming this is the kind of people who may be from a country I don't know. If I didn't read the messages below I wouldn't find out.

Because they have nothing to lose seems a fair examination of the situation. Seeing them only have that kind of opportunity to get out of the situation, will be the only option, and winning in a lottery will be the biggest relief.
Do you think that this beggar in question who wants to use gamble to win a fortune will quit gambling if he wins the lottery, I doubt because he might still continue gambling and will not nw satisfied with his wins. He is a beggar doesn't mean that he is not human and will not have the spirit of greed in him. Why I am saying this is that because he has a misplaced priority to use the alms he got to gamble. I know that he has nothing to lose because he didn't have any money from onset but imagine a lob the money he has been using to gamble if he has saved them to do something better.

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September 04, 2024, 03:12:10 PM
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some bergers that gambles and I've often wondered why they do so. I know that people give bergers and destitutes money to eat and take care of their other basic needs like soap to bath and medicine Incase they don't feel well. And seeing them in lotto kiosks that are very rampant in the cities to bet makes me to wonder if it's not misplaced priorities for them.
I doubt that when people find themselves at the bottom of society, they worry about the rightness/wrongness of moral actions. Also, these people abuse the kindness of those who try to help them and simply parasitize, using help for their own mercenary and selfish purposes. For example, homeless people spend donations (alcohol, illegal substances, etc.) not only on lottery tickets.

I understand that most poor people are looking for shortcuts to riches and they see gambling as a get rich quick scheme. But most of them are ignorant of the house edge over gamblers and it means that winning is not easy.
So it turns out that those who give alms sponsor the casinos from their own pockets.

I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun.
They play to win, but I suspect they are vulnerable to the same feelings as regular gamblers (pleasure from the anticipation of winning, gambling addiction).

So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose?
Easy come - easy go. It's easy to part with money that you didn't earn through your own labor.

How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
I would feel regret and disappointment because my efforts to help the person were in vain. It would be better to give it to someone else who really needs it and is able to use it for good, rather than waste it on the false hope of winning.
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If I know beggars that use the money to gamble, I will mark their face till I die, I make sure that I will never give them money even they're really in need.

These beggars need to get lesson for not having any money and want something to eat, so they will learn to save money in order to not ended up starving.

Anyway isn't the casino protected by security? how can the security allow beggars to gamble when they know that they're not gamble for fun and can't afford to lose their money because they're already lack of money in the first place.

 
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some bergers that gambles and I've often wondered why they do so. I know that people give bergers and destitutes money to eat and take care of their other basic needs like soap to bath and medicine Incase they don't feel well. And seeing them in lotto kiosks that are very rampant in the cities to bet makes me to wonder if it's not misplaced priorities for them.

I understand that most poor people are looking for shortcuts to riches and they see gambling as a get rich quick scheme. But most of them are ignorant of the house edge over gamblers and it means that winning is not easy.

I believe that bergers don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a berger that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
Of course i don't see anything wrong for the beggars not to gamble, at least if not for anything but for the change of his/her fortune, he cannot continue to be begging all his life, so if he gambles and he runs into luck and wins something handsomely, then he will definitely not be needing handouts from people before he eats, or gets anything that is of priority to him, so for me it's not misplaced priority, the only way i can frown at it is when the beggar becomes chronic gambler,  because i do not support that, I always advocate for a healthy gambling lifestyle.












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September 04, 2024, 03:29:16 PM
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I believe that beggars don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a beggar that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?

For me it is common and not a new habit that I have seen for the first time. Apart from having fun, they may want to look different from others although not all poor gamblers behave like that.
It is impossible for them to gamble with the feeling that they have nothing to lose. Why, because in gambling losing is something that is certain to happen although the amount of loss depends on how much is bet.

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September 04, 2024, 03:37:24 PM
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I believe that beggars don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a beggar that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?

beggars do begging as their job. so assume what they get from begging on the street or in other places is enough to meet their living needs, maybe even more. so the money they use to buy lottery tickets is the rest of their day's work.

people may feel sorry for the appearance of beggars. and give them some money. but indirectly it creates a job field for beggars to do it every day. today beggars can spend all the money they get to buy lottery tickets. and tomorrow they will beg again and get money again.

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September 04, 2024, 03:39:06 PM
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Of course i don't see anything wrong for the beggars not to gamble, at least if not for anything but the change his fortune..

I don't like it when they ask me for money: I don't like this at all. I have always maintained that you need to have the life of a healthy player.
If you are a beggar you should focus on getting out of that situation, not on making bets.

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September 04, 2024, 03:40:51 PM
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I ask this question because in my city I've seen some beggars that gambles and I've often wondered why they do so. I know that people give beggars and destitutes money to eat and take care of their other basic needs like soap to bath and medicine Incase they don't feel well. And seeing them in lotto kiosks that are very rampant in the cities to bet makes me to wonder if it's not misplaced priorities for them.

First of all, anyone can gamble no matter he is beggar or any other person, as long as anyone has money to deposit in a gambling site they can gamble and no casino will stop any person from gambling on that basis that someone is a beggar.

Next, comes the reason that since beggars are those who do not have much money to meet their day to day needs so why they spend money on gambling ? Well everyone knows that one can double the money or gain quick money from gambling. So beggars also try their luck with the little money they have. I can't comments its right or wrong decision by the beggars to gamble  Huh

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September 04, 2024, 03:41:45 PM
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I believe that beggars don't gamble for fun. So do you think that it's because they feel that they don't have anything to loose and somebody will still give them money if they lose? How will you feel if you see a beggar that you just gave your hard earned money using it to gamble?
Most times before I offer help to anyone who begs, I have to take a look at the level of your physical disability. I don't give out money to a begger who has his two legs, two hands and all parts of his body still Intact. Most of these people aren't beggers but bunch of lazy Individuals whose last resort to get money is to beg. What more seeing someone you gave a helping hand money at a gambling shop, placing bets? I would be pissed a lot. Someone who rely needs a helping hand wouldn't even have a thinking for gambling as that might not be in his own agender. But if the later, then they won't be gambling for the fun but the profits which definitely will lead them to losing.

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