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September 11, 2024, 10:26:28 AM
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Edited to add source link of video - Donal Trump on X

Let's be vigilant if he has the convictions or if it's just a political tactic. This is Donald Trump three years ago when he said he did not like Bitcoin. However, everyone is allowed to change their views on what they think about something because change is the dynamic nature of humans. I believe that people can learn over time and perhaps Trump has learned. Of course, many of us today were chronic haters of Bitcoin until we understood it and now, we are enthusiastic about it.

As for Harris, I do not know when her passion for cryptocurrency started, hers looks more like a political ambition. She may never win against Trump. I will advise all US citizens to watch carefully.
What Trump learned is that he wanted to stay the President of the United States but he failed, so now is his last chance to become the president again and he is trying everything he can to get as many votes as possible. It's impossible to call Bitcoin a scam in 2021 when you know for years that this coin exists and then change your mind before elections. I personally don't eat their lies. If trump learnt anything, then he should know that the aim of getting every rest of Bitcoin mined in the USA is against Bitcoin because that means the destruction of decentralization.

Harris is the copy-paste too, she doesn't care about Bitcoin, I bet she doesn't know what it is but accepts it anyway because she wants to steal voters from Donald Trump. Did you watch the video where Harris talks about Cloud Storage? Watch it man and you'll understand how stupid she is, there is no way on earth she can understand what Bitcoin is with her brain.

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September 11, 2024, 11:01:27 AM
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Edited to add source link of video - Donal Trump on X

Let's be vigilant if he has the convictions or if it's just a political tactic. This is Donald Trump three years ago when he said he did not like Bitcoin. However, everyone is allowed to change their views on what they think about something because change is the dynamic nature of humans. I believe that people can learn over time and perhaps Trump has learned. Of course, many of us today were chronic haters of Bitcoin until we understood it and now, we are enthusiastic about it.

As for Harris, I do not know when her passion for cryptocurrency started, hers looks more like a political ambition. She may never win against Trump. I will advise all US citizens to watch carefully.
What Trump learned is that he wanted to stay the President of the United States but he failed, so now is his last chance to become the president again and he is trying everything he can to get as many votes as possible. It's impossible to call Bitcoin a scam in 2021 when you know for years that this coin exists and then change your mind before elections. I personally don't eat their lies. If trump learnt anything, then he should know that the aim of getting every rest of Bitcoin mined in the USA is against Bitcoin because that means the destruction of decentralization.

Harris is the copy-paste too, she doesn't care about Bitcoin, I bet she doesn't know what it is but accepts it anyway because she wants to steal voters from Donald Trump. Did you watch the video where Harris talks about Cloud Storage? Watch it man and you'll understand how stupid she is, there is no way on earth she can understand what Bitcoin is with her brain.

Both of them want to confuse people and think they became friendly. A common action by those unscrupulous politicians, But if I'm the one who will choose between those two candidate Trump will be more better than Harris in terms of possible bitcoin acceptance in US. Harris action is not really going after on bitcoin and they used third party platform maybe to avoid getting any more involvement towards bitcoin. While Trump is so hardcore towards his intentions and really showing some potentials of adaption for bitcoin. Although I really get it why people still have a doubt in Trump since he's also really a anti bitcoin before. But there's nothing else to choose which is strong and I guess in this selection people will choose lesser evil between these two to make sure there will be no heavy disturbance of circulation of bitcoin transaction in US.

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September 11, 2024, 01:14:26 PM
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All politicians try to please everyone.... Nor Trump nor she cares about crypto really. They just want to picture themelves as pro crypto.

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September 11, 2024, 03:59:29 PM
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This is the first of it kind “election” where Bitcoin has become the major talk that candidates are prioritizing to gain the mass vote.I would not want Bitcoin to just end in becoming the talk of the town only here in the US presidential election but also should be spread and become major talk across other country's presidential election. Generally, this shows mass level of adoption of Bitcoin. Seeing such developing stories each day makes me have a stronger belief of how scarce and more important that Bitcoin would become in the society in the near future, holding my portfolios of Bitcoin.

 
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September 11, 2024, 04:31:54 PM
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If we don't want to get involved in the war between politicians, we can stand aside and watch things unfold. But if we care about the future and want to contribute to the development of bitcoin, I agree with you that let's vote for the person who will do the least harm to it.

Honestly, both Trump and Harris are untrustworthy but what other choice do we have? We rarely have a third option so let's seize every opportunity even if it is fragile and uncertain. And there is no doubt that Trump is more worth our choice and bet on than Harris. Vote and spread support for him, at least we still have a chance while our chance when voting for Harris is zero.

Kamala Harris has failed to speak anything about Bitcoin. This is an indication that she is going to continue with Joe Biden's policies on cryptocurrencies. So even if Harris is not speaking you can easily predict what will happen under her administration by observing the current government. But Trump has been speaking about Bitcoin and others. I am sceptical about his ability to implement all he has promised but at least he has promised something. I am not a US citizen but I also consider other factors about the president before endorsing them. His policy about Bitcoin which I am not sure he will implement is not my only consideration. I am concerned more about racial segregation and immigration. But I think Trump has successfully gathered a lot of supporters from the crypto space. 

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September 11, 2024, 09:52:57 PM
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But if I'm the one who will choose between those two candidate Trump will be more better than Harris in terms of possible bitcoin acceptance in US.
Btw do we really want increased Bitcoin acceptance in the US? We can say that high Bitcoin adoption comes with many regulations. Now we are forced to submit KYC almost everywhere while in 2016, I remember that KYC wasn't mandatory and exchanges weren't forcing you to submit KYC.

This is the first of it kind “election” where Bitcoin has become the major talk that candidates are prioritizing to gain the mass vote.
Bitcoin is not a major talk. The major talk is inflation, high debt, migrant crisis, no border and etc... Bitcoin is not the priority but Bitcoin is there, they are trying to gain the vote of Bitcoin enthusiasts but I think that in the end, no one will judge them by what they talk about Bitcoin because we all know that they aren't for Bitcoin here, especially the businessman Trump. You can't be a businessman and want self-custody for your people.

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September 11, 2024, 11:09:35 PM
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The best thing that could happen is that both parties end up being pro-bitcoin.
Both parties leaning their voice to the support of bitcoin is a welcome news  although the worrisome aspect about this to me is how genuine is their support?  Politicians are not people that should be trusted at their words when they are in need of power they can easily say and accept anything just to have the people for that moment.

Because it's now appearing as though both parties are now using bitcoin as a means to an end in their political tussle which therefore makes their sudden pro-bitcoin-ish attitude questionable if this support will grow more wings after the emergence of one of the two parties.

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September 11, 2024, 11:43:49 PM
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Personally, I would expect this to cause the value to go up.

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On the bankers, the rulers from Wall Street and CBDC. Do you know how much of control over money will be given to your rulers if a CBDC is used by a country? Also, Wall Street is only all in bitcoin as a speculative investment heheheheh. Do you not understand this?

Why would a CBDC make any difference whatsoever? Something like 90% of USD is already held digitally. Why especially would making the last 10% that's floating around in paper change anything? The US isn't going to have a CBDC because there's no reason to have one. Physically dollars will be used less and less and eventually they will just be gone from everywhere but eBay in the collectables section. Those physical pieces of paper will be replaced by credit cards, payment services, and (actually scalable) digital currency.

And yes, Bitcoin is, to almost all of it's holders, nothing more than a speculative investment. It requires $30 billion in hardware to process the transaction load of few busy shopping malls at Christmas. Bitcoin is not a threat to become anything else than what it already is, and there's no government or anything else stopping it. Bitcoin's limitations are technical, not caused by some Illuminati conspiracy.




The difference on CBDC and digital payments is very big. CBDCs will be issued by your central bank which will certainly come with mechanisms where they can check all of your transactions directly, collect your data and invade your privacy. They presently cannot do this directly because there are processes they need to follow before they can invade your privacy and collect hehehe. On CBDCs and knowing how the government behaves, we cannot be shocked if these CBDC payment platforms are designed to invade on everyone's privacy. It would be headshaking and very much stupid if everyone trusts the government for data protection and privacy protection hehehehe.

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September 12, 2024, 05:10:23 AM
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The difference on CBDC and digital payments is very big. CBDCs will be issued by your central bank which will certainly come with mechanisms where they can check all of your transactions directly, collect your data and invade your privacy.


The US already can do this with ATM-dispensed physical cash, and they can subpoena any bank transactions they want. A CBDC wouldn't change any of that.

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They presently cannot do this directly because there are processes they need to follow before they can invade your privacy and collect hehehe.


Again, why would a CBDC be any different in this regard? Obviously a CBDC transaction would have the same exact protections as a non-CBDC transaction.

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On CBDCs and knowing how the government behaves, we cannot be shocked if these CBDC payment platforms are designed to invade on everyone's privacy. It would be headshaking and very much stupid if everyone trusts the government for data protection and privacy protection hehehehe.


The US government can, with a valid subpoena, get at almost all transactions that occur already. If the US government wanted to invade everybody's privacy, as you keep alleging, then why not do it now? Why go to all of that trouble to only cover about 10% of the transaction volume that occurs? Why not focus on the 90%.

To be clear, this is an academic topic since the USA will never have a CBDC since there's simply no reason to have one. Physical paper bills are fading away in usage and they will continue to do so. Non-cash checkout lines in grocery stores outnumber the cash ones. Etc. etc. This trend will only accelerate when private-sector digital currency arrives.





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September 17, 2024, 02:33:32 AM
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@legiteum. I am not arguing that a big percentage of money transactions is digital. However, with a CBDC the government might have more access to the database which implies that they can more extensively monitor and do surveillance on the people's transactions. This might also imply that they can also have more control on this.

There are also concerns on privacy and security. Also, on your statement that America will never have a CBDC, heheeheheh. We cannot trust the next 5 administrations that they can assure this. Republican or Democrat this is where the rulers will bring the future of money.

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OFFICIAL EUROPEAN
BETTING PARTNER OF
ASTON VILLA FC
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