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Author Topic: Shouldn't there be a rule to prevent burst-posting or spam such as this?  (Read 1096 times)
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September 08, 2024, 04:32:13 PM
Merited by LoyceV (7), vapourminer (1), Lucius (1)
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This might not be something that directly harms the forum or its well-being, but it's painful to watch.

If there was an award for burst-posting, this guy would surely be the winner in it. The guy is literally making a post every 2 to 3 minutes in any section he stumbles upon, look at the picture for reference:



That isn't the only board or place where he did or does this, he did the same in Gambling Discussion just an hour or half an hour ago but because that section is more crowded, it went unnoticed but it can be seen from his post history. The guy has 1690 posts with only 182 activity points, and most of his posts are of the same nature, generic 3-line posts without much contribution to the topics in question.

I'm not against this guy or anyone in general, but I feel this isn't normal behavior and there should be a way to prevent this from happening.

P.S.: I'll lock the thread if the community thinks otherwise. Open for discussion for now.

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September 08, 2024, 04:37:01 PM
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Just keep reporting the posts and explain in details while reporting it. All his spam posts would be deleted and he may likely get temporary ban.

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September 08, 2024, 04:41:50 PM
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If posts are spam, let's report them and the spammer will come to a ban soon.

A little bit beyond this case, you can see a user makes a series of post but if these posts are good in quality, it's not a spammer and no issue at all. Assume he composes these posts and when are ready, he releases it in a series. This style is not common but I would like to give the example to show that quality is key of deciding a post is spam or not spam, should be deleted or kept and a poster should be banned or not.

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September 08, 2024, 04:47:59 PM
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Usually users tend to do like this because they have paying campaign. Report it to the campaign manager so the user will get removed and get nothing, which i think he is really in a campaign or just wearing it.

As for forum rules, there's no rules for "burst-posting", unless the posts are considered and reported as spam. But if the posts are somewhat good, then there's no issue at all.

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September 08, 2024, 04:57:39 PM
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Rule or no rule spammers will still spam, and plagiarists will still plagiarise, and that's just fact. The forum rules don't support spamming and creation of generic shit posts but still every now and then we find shit posts and plagiarised contents and write ups scattered around different boards on the forum. Personally I'll say that no one including Moderators are to blame except the spammers and plagiarists themselves.
Numerous times I have across posts like this with complaints of some users constantly spamming and creating generic posts. However I'll say complaining and creating threads won't solve a thing rather the best thing to do is assists moderators to clean the forum.
Like other members here have previously mentioned ,all we have to do is report posts like these to help moderators spot them.

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September 08, 2024, 04:58:10 PM
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Just keep reporting the posts and explain in details while reporting it. All his spam posts would be deleted and he may likely get temporary ban.

I will, but I just wanted to bring this into everyone's notice, or maybe find a quicker solution to the problem.

A little bit beyond this case, you can see a user makes a series of post but if these posts are good in quality, it's not a spammer and no issue at all. Assume he composes these posts and when are ready, he releases it in a series. This style is not common but I would like to give the example to show that quality is key of deciding a post is spam or not spam, should be deleted or kept and a poster should be banned or not.

As for forum rules, there's no rules for "burst-posting", unless the posts are considered and reported as spam. But if the posts are somewhat good, then there's no issue at all.

That's part of the problem, I wouldn't be concerned or have any problems if he was making quality posts, I enjoy reading posts that don't waste my time, but that isn't the case here. All, or most, of his posts are generic low-quality posts which makes is clear how he is able to write a post every two minutes.

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September 08, 2024, 06:01:59 PM
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Since some users have suggested to you what to do i think you might want to lock the thread up since there is no point keeping it open anymore. Just do as Charles-Tim have advised, report the post to moderators and the post will get deleted, spamming is not encouraged here and by reporting the user and his post you have made a good contribution to the community to help keep the community clean and conducive.

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If posts are spam, let's report them and the spammer will come to a ban soon.

A little bit beyond this case, you can see a user makes a series of post but if these posts are good in quality, it's not a spammer and no issue at all. Assume he composes these posts and when are ready, he releases it in a series. This style is not common but I would like to give the example to show that quality is key of deciding a post is spam or not spam, should be deleted or kept and a poster should be banned or not.
I understand what you meant but there's actually more to it;
This forum doesn't actually accept schedule posting, if it does, we can say that a user at his leisure could make like 20 posts and schedule them to be published later. In the scenario you painted that someone could make posts and later begin to post them one after the other, to me I may consider this as a type of spam.
Spam could also be doing things in a sequence that negates the natural way of doing things in a particular environment. In the issue in question, the time between posts is 2 to 3 mins, this could also suggest that this is a bot operation.
But in all, I don't want to belong to a forum where people are interested in quantity discussion and not the quality of the discussion.

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September 08, 2024, 07:00:54 PM
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This might not be something that directly harms the forum or its well-being, but it's painful to watch.
This is behavior is very common among newbies who have refused or rather are too lazy to do their homework on the forum. They probably think that this forum is like other forums where the behavior is accepted. In my estimation, I'll ignore him however if it bothers you so much, just report his posts and the.mods would lock the topics if necessary.

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September 08, 2024, 07:27:30 PM
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Nobody isn't going to introduce new rules or restrictions because of one or few users who behaving in that way. Haven't looked at posts of this users deeply, but if you feel that he is spamming, just report his posts. It will be deleted and maybe he will get temporrary ban.

Assume he composes these posts and when are ready, he releases it in a series. This style is not common but I would like to give the example to show that quality is key of deciding a post is spam or not spam, should be deleted or kept and a poster should be banned or not.
In past I was doing something similar. I had opened multiple topics on few tabs and was writting in several of these topics. It was normal posts, it took a while to write it, it's not that I was jumping from one to next topic. I just published it in short time interval, so, it might be looked like burst posting. But I don't see burst posting as very big issue, as long as it's quality posts.

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September 08, 2024, 07:54:10 PM
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Usually users tend to do like this because they have paying campaign. Report it to the campaign manager so the user will get removed and get nothing, which i think he is really in a campaign or just wearing it.

That's not an active campaign signature; he's just wearing it for fun and posting to increase activity points, because I don't see any reason why they'd continue making more than 20 1-2 liner posts every day.

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That's not an active campaign signature; he's just wearing it for fun and posting to increase activity points, because I don't see any reason why they'd continue making more than 20 1-2 liner posts every day.
Any of those posts can be reported if someone thinks they are not quality or constructive posts on the thread. Regardless of the time gap between posts, poor quality posts should be reported and removed. The length and shortness of a post does not reflect its quality, but the content of what he conveys will determine it all. So I wouldn't be surprised if the user mentioned had enough basic knowledge of a few things that his post couldn't be removed entirely.


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I will, but I just wanted to bring this into everyone's notice, or maybe find a quicker solution to the problem.
The user above basically already has more than 100 activity, so he only needs 4 seconds between posts before he posts another one. The problem is quality, if you think the post is not quality then you need to report it.

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That's not an active campaign signature; he's just wearing it for fun and posting to increase activity points, because I don't see any reason why they'd continue making more than 20 1-2 liner posts every day.
It seems the signature has a referral link. perhaps he is trying to get some referral from the signature. He knows what he wants LOL.
I see two reasons now.
[1.] Referral spamming
[2.] Increasing number of posts.

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Usually users tend to do like this because they have paying campaign. Report it to the campaign manager so the user will get removed and get nothing, which i think he is really in a campaign or just wearing it.

That's not an active campaign signature; he's just wearing it for fun and posting to increase activity points, because I don't see any reason why they'd continue making more than 20 1-2 liner posts every day.
exactly , one can tell from their post history that they don't really care much about any campaign but just wearing it for fun or because of this.
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And as I see, you listened to the advice of the experienced gamblers about your representation here. This is a good indicator for a new casino. To me it means that you care about the users and your reputation.
I alredy tryed your casino before. What can I say? Colorful design, lots of slots and providers, will try again for sure.
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maybe they think they are helping the casino since they relatively new
But not aware that making such quality post is frowned upon
If they do use any form of notifier they should be aware of the thread and maybe see reason to work on their approach.


[2.] Increasing number of posts.
is there any benefit in increasing Post count?

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That's not an active campaign signature; he's just wearing it for fun and posting to increase activity points, because I don't see any reason why they'd continue making more than 20 1-2 liner posts every day.
It seems the signature has a referral link. perhaps he is trying to get some referral from the signature. He knows what he wants LOL.
I see two reasons now.
[1.] Referral spamming
[2.] Increasing number of posts.

Its better that he open an interesting thread or thread full of good information if he wants to maximize his signature with his referral link on it, I thought he was on Royse777 campaign because its hard to get on Royse777 campaign with this kind of posting behavior.

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This case is difficult to treat if one would be fair because I've read many of his posts in the past and my conclusion is that he is a good poster. But the issue with him is that he is representing a certain casino/sportsbook (WEISS) and seems like he is a lone campaigner for it, perhaps the owner or just a rep.

This might have caused his frequent and short posts for it to be noticed. For me, his offence is minimal, I guess he should be warned (at most), he ought to know better than this.

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September 08, 2024, 11:12:41 PM
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There is a rule about spamming,
When it gets obvious, you get a warnings in the form of temp bans and after a series of temp bans, you can get a permanent ban.

Mind you, a lot was sniped from this quote.
Due to the unacceptable level of spam and low-quality posts

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Your first ban is your first warning. If you have to be banned for a fourth time it is permanent and you will no longer be allowed to participate on the forum under any accounts. Note: If you are banned on one account then you are not allowed to post under any accounts you own for the duration of your ban. The only exception to this rule is Meta where you can discuss the circumstances of your ban if you wish to do so but anywhere outside of that sub will be considered ban evasion and will get your ban doubled, but it is generally best to just patiently wait out your ban and improve your posts on return and hopefully no further bans will be needed.

These days, most of these accounts gets nuked. I reported an account with some YouTube link promotion posts in almost all the users comments and threads a couple of months ago and moderators so graciously nuked the account.

As much as reports might be the way, be rest assured that, they do get what is deserved as at when the time is due.

The user in OP is definitely paying no attention to what is been posted. How do you go through the posts in just 2minutes and you make your comments within the same time frame as well!

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Just keep reporting the posts and explain in details while reporting it. All his spam posts would be deleted and he may likely get temporary ban.
As a forum member then this is what I will also have to do in order to help the mods to clean up the spam posts since there's nothing else we can do but to report the post. I don't know if op is aware about the rules about forum members spamming in the forum because as far as I am concern is that op asked about this guy's spamming in the forum and ask for prevention although I really appreciate op's intention from the post and reason.

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Last edit: September 09, 2024, 01:37:43 PM by DYING_S0UL
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As far as I'm aware of there is no specific rules for post bursting. A user can come and go, post as much as he wants. But if you think, he is spamming the forum, then just report it to the moderators. I took a look at his post history. It seems like most of his posts are in Gambling and altcoin section with same kind of posting pattern. You can't really do anything about that, its up to the mod. If you take a closer look, you'll see those sections are usually filled with spams, post bursting, pyramid quote and many kind of unwanted things. I don't see anything good with this guy, he already has 51 posts deleted by the mods and he has only 3 merits meaning he has done nothing meaningful to contribute for this forum. With 1600+ posts, if he were good enough, he would have ranked up easily.

Long story short, just report to moderator and move on...


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September 09, 2024, 05:58:32 AM
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Usually users tend to do like this because they have paying campaign. Report it to the campaign manager so the user will get removed and get nothing, which i think he is really in a campaign or just wearing it.

He's not in any campaign. The campaign signature he's wearing only accepts participants from senior member rank and above. The campaign also demands that each post be at least 150 characters; most of his posts are not even up to a hundred characters. He's been in the forum long enough to understand how it works. It's either he wants to get into a campaign and doesn't understand it, or he's simply a spammer.

As for forum rules, there's no rules for "burst-posting", unless the posts are considered and reported as spam. But if the posts are somewhat good, then there's no issue at all.

There's no way a person can make a reasonable post every 2-3 minutes. Anybody who creates multiple posts with a three-minute interval between them is a spammer, because you can you can read a post and a few comments and write your own post in under three minutes. The account should be reported as a spammer.

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