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September 09, 2024, 01:53:37 AM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

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September 10, 2024, 10:36:24 PM
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Be a good sales person. Start a church, and talk the poor people around you into helping... for a cut, of course.

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September 11, 2024, 04:17:09 AM
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Neither resources or character, but fate.

Imagine you're born in India and unfortunately you're a Dalit aka lowest social class in India, you can only work in sanitation jobs and there's no way for you to change your life no matter how hard you try and work, because you're a Dalit.

Their life is already hard, stop putting more pressure on them, being born poor and dying poor are fates.

Forced by the circumstances of their birth and poverty, Dalits in India continue to work as sanitation workers: manual scavengers, cleaners of drains & sewers, garbage collectors, and sweepers of roads.

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September 11, 2024, 07:10:42 AM
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The society one is born into plays a great role in determining the outcome of some of these things. Sometimes when you're fortunate to get your life a bit figured out, you might be tempted to assume that those that are poor are iether lazy or that they mismanaged all the funds and resources they hard at their disposal but that's not always the case. A lot of people are poor because they are born into a society that's already poor. Some of us were born into an environment where till we got to 10 years, we never for once saw a car with our eyes. Our definition of wealth was restricted to the kind of people around us and how wealthy they are.

The richest person some of us knew while growing up had about 5 fishing boats and that gave us a narrative that being wealthy is about getting too much fishing boats which has a way of restraining us in a confined space. Working hard in such kind of space will mean that you're just working hard to put yourself among the highest class of people in that society. For others, getting married early enough is what people around them are all about and it's deficult to see above that kind of mentality when everyone around you is thinking that way. If you're in an environment where people are thinking about invention, becoming a millionaire, billionaire, CEO, expert in a chosen field or whatever, you can't help but become one of those things. It supports the saying that goes "if you're among 9 rich dudes, you're the 10th rich person in the room.

You're only lazy and poor when you refuse doing what people in your environment are doing to get ends meet. Thier are a lot of people in that category that are naturally lazy and cold to ceasing opportunity even when it's been presented to them on a platter of gold. Those are the once that always remains stagnant and poor but anyone that's ready to be among the top people in his society and his ready to pay the price and become disciplined enough to push himself to the top, nothing will have the power to stoping such a one from becoming great.

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September 11, 2024, 08:44:33 AM
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Neither resources or character, but fate.

Imagine you're born in India and unfortunately you're a Dalit aka lowest social class in India, you can only work in sanitation jobs and there's no way for you to change your life no matter how hard you try and work, because you're a Dalit.

Their life is already hard, stop putting more pressure on them, being born poor and dying poor are fates.

Forced by the circumstances of their birth and poverty, Dalits in India continue to work as sanitation workers: manual scavengers, cleaners of drains & sewers, garbage collectors, and sweepers of roads.
This is unfortunate and I do agree that being born in India especially as a Dalit, there is nothing you can do to climb the hierarchy. It must be so frustrating to not be able to do anything that could help yourself or your family. But there are only 1.4 billion Indians in the world and 166 million of these are Dalits. I am talking about people from the rest of the world who may have a better shot at getting out of poverty.

Personally I refuse to accept being poor as my fate because it might validate any wrong decision I make about my life.

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September 11, 2024, 09:42:51 AM
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Neither resources or character, but fate.

Imagine you're born in India and unfortunately you're a Dalit aka lowest social class in India, you can only work in sanitation jobs and there's no way for you to change your life no matter how hard you try and work, because you're a Dalit.

Their life is already hard, stop putting more pressure on them, being born poor and dying poor are fates.

Forced by the circumstances of their birth and poverty, Dalits in India continue to work as sanitation workers: manual scavengers, cleaners of drains & sewers, garbage collectors, and sweepers of roads.

Or if we are unlucky enough to be citizens of a poor country, a country with a corrupt government that does not care about the life and death of its people, or born in countries and regions that are constantly at war due to the bloodlust and cruelty of politicians from other powers. If we are born there, no matter how hard we try, we will never escape poverty.

The saying "Being born poor is not your fault but dying poor is your fault" just wants to remind everyone to always try hard in life, don't give up until you die. No more, no less, it means nothing else.

There are many causes and factors that cause poverty, we need to know what situation they are in, what they have been and are going through. Don't be quick to criticize or look down on the poor and assume that all poor people are lazy and deserve it.
There are many people who are too short-sighted, thinking that because they are talented they can escape poverty and look down on others, but they do not know that the causes of our poverty are not the same.

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September 11, 2024, 10:31:14 AM
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Getting out of poverty is hard but possible, try to focus on education & skill development to improve job prospects. Create a budget to manage finances effectively & ruthlessly save. Seek employment opportunities, networking & mentorship. Try starting a side business to generate additional income. Access community resources & support programs for assistance. Stay motivated, set realistic goals & be persistent in overcoming challenges. Building a strong support system can provide encouragement & guidance along the way.

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September 11, 2024, 01:15:36 PM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.
I know the history of my father and it is clear that it was not his fault that were not rich. He did all he could to make us have a comfortable life, but it was not enough to make us rich. Some parents didn't have much opportunity to get wealth, so you don't have to blame them.

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Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
If you have all the money without a good character you might end up wasting it. That's why many people who inherited wealth or win jackpots end up going bankrupt after a short period. Character like hard work, perseverance, passion, patience, and sound financial management are more important than financial resources.

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September 11, 2024, 02:24:45 PM
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In previous decades, half of my family used to be in poverty, the kind of poverty which forced all my uncles and my father only to have a meal each day, instead of three and live off gathering cocoa pods for a living.
Today my father and many of my uncles are relatively okey, it was education which happened, it made thing different once they got out of college.
I was raised with the idea (I could be right or wrong though) education plays a vital part on getting people out of poverty and making their role in society more important and more meaningful.
It depends also in what country one lives, whether one would be able to apply to get free higher education or only get through high school and then to start to work immediately.
From what I have seen in developing countries, most of them share the same characteristic of having little to none investments into getting people educated, or children are forced by their own circumstances to work and miss out school.

It is a delicate topic, we could continue to talk about it until reaching cases of child labor, modern slavery, sexual exploitation of adults and children and still there would be things to point out.

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September 11, 2024, 10:48:35 PM
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Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
There are many causes of poverty not just from lack of resources or character, we have to know that not everyone will be wealthy or rich, having the poor masses is something inevitable no matter how good the economy may become.

One major causes aside what you listed is little or no exposure, in terms of knowledge and approach to certain areas. "What a person doesn't know, is what kills him", we get to see a lot of good persons who works really hard but have nothing to account for not basically because they don't know what they do but a bit of enhanced knowledge might be required or a shift from current job to another but based on so many other factors one can aswell not be able to afford ( then come lack of resources). There are alot of major causes but first should be about the knowledge, resources, opportunities then before character.

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September 12, 2024, 02:32:10 AM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
Being born in a poor family is a big challenging issue in the social system of this world, it is not unusual to blame the family for this. I think being born in a poor family is a curse, because a family that is exposed to any modernity or its members cannot get out of the grip of poverty even if they want to. I have seen many poor families who have made hard sacrifices to reach their goals or are neglected in all aspects of society because they are poor.

But it is also true that many, through hard perseverance and temperance of character, rise out of the extreme curse of poverty and become established. But it is a very small number, what is your opinion about it?

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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
Getting rich is by fate and destiny and not by resources or character because a poor man can become rich for being educated and during his years in school, his friends and people around him that he mingled with might be the ones that will turn i life around in future. Education does not make anyone rich but it gives you more opportunities to become rich. Good character is very important for all because it brings respect and good name but that does not mean that if you don't have good character, you will never get rich. I have sen some folks who are rude and brag with their riches and they didn't get broke. Good financial management is important for one to maintain his wealth.

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September 13, 2024, 03:43:21 PM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

Did you believe in fate? If you believe in fate you will not think of saying some things that you are saying in this post, so you think that parents are the problem of someone being poor or born to be poor, sometimes we have to think before saying something because, being poor is not what someone prays to be and when you're destined to be the part you don't have anything to say or blame anybody for, parents are not to be blamed for someone being poor because we don't know what they go through and if to become rich is an easy thing no any parents will want to be poor.

For anyone to think that being poor is the parents' fault then why can't he or she also work hard to change the family background, is not easy to become a successful person in life that is why some people will try their best to work hard and make money but if they are not destined to have money or become rich in life they will never have it even if they went and do a ritual because of money they will never have if they are not destined to have it, so let us not blame anybody for being poor.

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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
I think character has nothing or little to do with getting rich. I have seen rich people with rotten character and it didn't affect them and neither did it stop them from being rich. I am yet to acknowledge the place of character in getting rich. Maybe it can have a place in maintaining wealth but not in acquiring.

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Getting out of poverty is hard but possible, try to focus on education & skill development to improve job prospects. Create a budget to manage finances effectively & ruthlessly save. Seek employment opportunities, networking & mentorship. Try starting a side business to generate additional income. Access community resources & support programs for assistance. Stay motivated, set realistic goals & be persistent in overcoming challenges. Building a strong support system can provide encouragement & guidance along the way.
It is very important to acquire all these because it will definitely add good financial value. To be free from poverty one needs to be ready to grab opportunities by possessing not just education but different skills. Another factor that can be hindrance to be free from poverty is the environmental factors, it plays so much role in becoming rich or poor.

When you are in the right environment where their are good opportunities you don't need to struggle with your business or to get job. It is important for people to be very conscious if the environment is giving what they really want, if the environment is not playing that good role financially.

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They are too lazy and not want to change their life to better although they have enough resources. They are satisfy with what they have without want to change their life. They are hard to moves from their comfort zone into discomfort zone because if they work hard and smart, that means they will be on the discomfort zone.

If they can use their resources and have determination and perseverance and willing to work hard and smart, they will success to change their life. They can prevents the laziness and don't mind if they moves to the discomfort zone because they know that is need to change to better. They have dream to get better like other people so they will not give up when they meet a difficulty.

They consider the difficulty is a challenge for them to keep trying and reach they want. They should have character to build their minds to have a positive think so they can search for the resources around them. After that, they can decide what they want to do and use all of their ability to change their life.

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Personally I refuse to accept being poor as my fate because it might validate any wrong decision I make about my life.
Definitely you shouldn't think like that.

I'd say what I said above is for public, since that's the reality. We might not able to achieve our dreams if we're lack of basic needs, yeah there's a chance, but it's like only one person from 100K poor people achieve it.

For ourselves, we should keep in my mind if we should try until we die, even we didn't achieve it, but at least we wouldn't regret with what we do in our life.

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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
I think character matters most than resource because even you have the resource without a good the can be misused but with a good and reliable information resource can be adequately utilized.
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In the World's system good character (not talking about fake good characters) doesn't matter at all. You can be rich with bad characters. No one in the world has good character, they are all bad but appearing good just like genetically modified foods look so good but are really not. Despite that, people still buy lots of them thereby making their producers rich, but that is not true riches since it is ill gotten money which the owners do not deserve, but have it anyway. Their riches are in negative because what they have do not belong to them. They are actually in debt as it's more like living on borrowed money which they will have to pay back else they are sent to prison, but not necessarily earthly one.
Now, those with actual good characters are not in the World's system. They produce good things and may not be making money off them, but they are rich in knowledge, wisdom and understanding which is very important factors that guarantee riches and its sustainance

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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
You can still have the good character or the resources and still find yourself hovering around poverty. Being out of poverty depends on the kind of clique of friends you have, how intelligent and exposed you are in learning new skills, the skills acquired, and leaving your comfort zone to a new place to hustle for the betterment of the future. Staying in your comfort zone for too long can make someone remain poor, or limit their financial growth. However, it is advised to link up with friends, learn new skills, be open to learning new things, invest in Bitcoin or real estate

 
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