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September 15, 2024, 06:34:11 PM
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But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?
Sometimes the only barrier preventing most of these persons who were born poor from breaking out of poverty is their mindsets. It is very common to see poor people with a limiting mindset. They have lived all their lives in their poor state in their poor community. They just believe that certain achievements are meant for the rich people. Even when opportunities are brought before them, they might not utilise that opportunity efficiently to give them a successful life. Only few poor people with positive mindsets are able to recognize opportunities when they see one and help themselves break out of their poor state. You cannot take a poor person with a limiting mindset out of poverty, they will still go back to their poor state which they feel comfortable in.

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September 15, 2024, 06:39:11 PM
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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
The duality between resources and character can be translated into environment and subjectiveness. Each of us is a complex fusion between both elements. We can't consider only one aspect and completely ignore the other. Everything you do affects your environment somehow, and everything happening in your environment affects your subjectiveness somehow. This process is constantly happening in real time.

It's up to you to work in order to balance this process in your favour, aiming homeostasis. If it's achieved, you will reach your goals, which in this case, consist in reaching financial freedom. There isn't a default recipe, though. The process is unique for each of us, and probably fluid. That means you have to constantly adapt yourself to the current demands reality present to you, through your subjectiveness or through the environment around you.

In conclusion, it's important to have both. It's essential to find balance between both.

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September 16, 2024, 11:15:41 AM
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Be a good sales person. Start a church, and talk the poor people around you into helping... for a cut, of course.

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 Grin Grin This is what is happening in Africa continent. Poor people are enriching the richer pastors by following what their pastors are telling them about sowing a seed. It's very pathetic!

Op, do you really think character has a role to play in taking someone out of poverty? I doubt that. Resources may play a significant role but not sure of character. From your post, I noticed how you contradict between both scenarios and that's just the fact. In as much as certain individual actions influenced the class they belong between rich and poor, the bottom line is that it's a divine and not necessarily as a result of your efforts. And of course, you can not just be idle waiting....you must play your role too even if you are destined to be rich.











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September 16, 2024, 04:43:44 PM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
Lack of resources, and those resources can be way more complex then you first would think. Where you get to born is a resource, your health is a resource, and sometimes that's something you can't fix by money. People you know can be your resources. Your intelligence is resource, and you can train it up only some levels. Your vision, height, parents, grandparents, air you breath, economic situation, healthcare, infrastructure of your country, education, the way your parents raised you or messed you up... Being in a right place at the right time. Your values, your energy and your luck

Those are all resources or lack of resources, depending what cards you have been given. Of course it's unhealthy to keep seeing as oneself as just a victim of circumstances and stop trying. And many people do try, not only to get out of poverty but to grow as persons. That itself is worth celebrating, not he outcome. And blaming people for being poor is just sociopathic thing to say. It's impossible for us to be emphatic enough to fully understand what others are going trough and all the situations they had to deal in their own way, just to stay alive.

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September 16, 2024, 05:03:12 PM
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But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

This may be due to their character because those who are very lazy do not do their work on time.  Or they can't be serious about anything.
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I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character

You forgot the third thing: intelligence. Some people are just not smart enough. Just like there are people who are too naturally lazy, irresponsible and neurotic, there are people who are just too naturally dumb to hold high-paying jobs. It is uncomfortable to read, but it is a sad truth of our life, and a pain in the ass for both progressives and conservatives: for progressives because it refutes their environmentalist dogma, and for conservatives because it refutes their belief in hard work and dedication as a source of success.

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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

Character (and intelligence) makes it more easy to obtain resources but not the other way around. People who suddenly won an astonishing amount of money in lotteries go broke way more often than people who earn the same amount of money in their business. How so? The people who own successful businesses do have character and intelligence to manage their money, and the people who win lotteries generally don't.

If you're a member of a group that possesses both character and intelligence, it is easy to gain resources to invest them to gain even more resources later. Ashkenazim Jews have been suffering persecutions everywhere in Europe yet they have always achieved high social and economic status despite being the №1 most hated ethnicity on the planet.
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September 17, 2024, 12:10:20 PM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

Are you in any way saying we have to blame the parents for being born poor or being born in a poor background? Because I don't seem to get it.

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I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

No matter how your character is either good or bad if you are destined to be rich you will be. We have people who have good character but they are poor and we have people who have bad character and they are rich which ever way it goes. Some people don't have that luck of getting rich no matter how hard they hustle it will still end where they started. I don't think getting rich is like a button that you press and you become wealthy over night, this is how we are to be some get rich some get poor, haven't you seen a situation where a rich man eventually becomes poor and the poor becomes rich? Is like a switch and we don't need to blame anybody for being poor or brought up in a poor family or by a poor parents, that's life, there are things we can't fight against and poverty seem to be one of them.











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September 17, 2024, 12:58:44 PM
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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
Both of them are important. You need resources to start your path to riches but you need character to sustain your wealth. The reason why people in rural areas in my country are poor is because of a lack of resources. Refugees in camps have slight chances of becoming successful because they don't have access to necessary opportunities. There might be people with good character in all these underprivileged areas but they will continue to live in poverty because of lack of resources.

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
I think character has nothing or little to do with getting rich. I have seen rich people with rotten character and it didn't affect them and neither did it stop them from being rich. I am yet to acknowledge the place of character in getting rich. Maybe it can have a place in maintaining wealth but not in acquiring.

If you want to get out of poverty, learn many new skills and earn more, save and invest.
Acquiring wealth without character has its consequences. It might lead to some misbehaviours which can destroy the fortune of the person. The bad characters of of R. Kelly, Huw Edwards, and Adam Britton, led to their downfall. It is better to pursue and acquire both of them.

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The reason why some people’s keeps staying in the poverty is that, if we observe some  they where born in the poverty and anyone who grow from the poorly family are the most people that face a lot of difficult in life, because they just grow and find their self in the poverty till some peoples build them self by making their so better; and this kind poverty normally popular in the rural areas, their are lack of so many things like resources.

This life is all about destiny their some people’s that they risk their life just to become rich, and if avid has never ready with them it will never happen till end of their life; some people’s is through their daily hustle they eventually become rich.

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September 18, 2024, 08:42:56 AM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

Being poor in most cases is not the fault of the parents because you may not no what they have gone through in making sure they became successful in other to better the lives of there children, so firstly before judging in that regards we should also no that privileges that exist now was not there during there time of youth and in some places there only source of livelihood was through farming and there was no much better opportunities for them to go into other things, though there are parents that had better opportunities that would have possibly change there lives but they allow it to sleep through there hands but however I believe that if things were to be like this during there time majority of them would have been very successful because they were even more hardworking than this era, so perhaps since our parents was unable to provide us with all the necessary things at least we should  make an effort to make things different and create another chapter for ourselves.











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September 19, 2024, 09:04:03 AM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

Being poor in most cases is not the fault of the parents because you may not no what they have gone through in making sure they became successful in other to better the lives of there children, so firstly before judging in that regards we should also no that privileges that exist now was not there during there time of youth and in some places there only source of livelihood was through farming and there was no much better opportunities for them to go into other things, though there are parents that had better opportunities that would have possibly change there lives but they allow it to sleep through there hands but however I believe that if things were to be like this during there time majority of them would have been very successful because they were even more hardworking than this era, so perhaps since our parents was unable to provide us with all the necessary things at least we should  make an effort to make things different and create another chapter for ourselves.

No one has the right to choose to be born into a poor or rich family, everything is created by nature. If we are unfortunately born into a poor family, that is our fate, do not blame our parents or anyone else.

Criticizing our parents just because our family is poor is bad behavior because no one wants to be poor and their children to live in poverty. Our parents worked hard and sacrificed their whole lives to give us the best life possible, but escaping poverty is not as easy as we think. Those who blame their parents should break free from the safe arms of their parents and become independent. They will realize that making money is extremely difficult, let alone becoming rich.

@OP, if you think your parents are the reason you are poor, what have you done to escape poverty and have you helped your parents? Are you married and have you provided a comfortable life for your children? Or are you also struggling with life and still dependent on your parents for support?

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September 19, 2024, 12:02:26 PM
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Being born poor is no one’s fault but their parents. However dying poor is entirely up yours.

I got to thinking how come a lot of poor people stay in poverty while some manage to get out of it and make a good life. I boiled it down to two specific things: resources and character. If someone has at least a few resources, he can then try and make a living and try to expand his career furthermore. While someone with not much resources can still manage to find some if he is really determined, hardworking and willing. If you combine these two, surely you’ll get out of poverty.

But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?

And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

I don't know where you're from, but in my country, it's not easy to come from a poor family and you must battle for yourself to develop your life and make sure you didn't end up like your parents. This isn't just about having resources or good character. Being poor and dying poor is not one fault. However, we cannot change what happens to us in this life, which is why some people end up having a terrible life, their destiny from God is to remain poor throughout life, but they refuse to accept it, and they are willing to do whatever it takes to make money, whereas others will join a bad gang just to make money, but at the end of the day, they remain poor no matter how much they work.

Furthermore, have you ever come across someone who becomes lazy when money is involved? I've never seen someone who is lazy when it comes to making money because even wealthy people don't joke about money, it's simply that those who aren't intended to be rich will never be rich no matter how hard they work.

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September 19, 2024, 10:52:35 PM
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But why is it that some even with the resources in front of them don’t still manage to make huge profit? Is it because of their character? Are they too lazy? Too comfortable? Not determined enough?
Sometimes the only barrier preventing most of these persons who were born poor from breaking out of poverty is their mindsets. It is very common to see poor people with a limiting mindset. They have lived all their lives in their poor state in their poor community. They just believe that certain achievements are meant for the rich people. Even when opportunities are brought before them, they might not utilise that opportunity efficiently to give them a successful life. Only few poor people with positive mindsets are able to recognize opportunities when they see one and help themselves break out of their poor state. You cannot take a poor person with a limiting mindset out of poverty, they will still go back to their poor state which they feel comfortable in.
I agree with you mate. It takes defeating poverty first from the mind before we start manifesting those attitudes and actions of changing our physical status. Most poor persons have a low self-esteem which has eaten and  filled them with fears and anxiety to do and go the extra length in climbing up the pyramid to the top.

There people that are not just physically poor but mentally poor  that they feel very comfortable about their present state it doesn't disturb them that they are poor, as in, they are satisfied with whatever little that cross their path never seeing a need to dare for more. There's that fear to take risk, they just believe they've already failed even before trying to take up the risk opportunity that could change their life so need not be that they even try.


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September 20, 2024, 08:21:16 AM
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You have to work and fight for yourself and your loved ones, there is no other way. The world is cruel.
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You have to work and fight for yourself and your loved ones, there is no other way. The world is cruel.

I can see thousands of people doing the same which is working hard for their entire life but still they are not getting out of this financial trap so work hard and become rich is just a big fat lie that we have been told all these time.
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What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?

From your explanations, both are of good example and they can add up to the financial benefit of one in this life. But my judgement on all of this after my own diligence knowing and research about getting yourself out of a situation like the subject matter we are discussing, it all falls down to information and connection, if you’re well informed and get the right knowledge, you’ll make it far in this life and you’ll wonder how things will begin to work in your favour. This is not something that you need to think too much about because it’s plainly seen and obvious around us. The rich continues to get richer because of the information they have and connection. While the poor and middle class that don’t have those things will either remain the way they are or get to live a little bit around the financial circle they find themselves in.

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And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Looking at the different people I have met, I try to figure out how and why they ended up the way they are. Are they rich because they have resources and a good character? Or are they rich because they only have good character? Are they poor because, despite the resources, they don’t have a good character?

What do you think is more important to have: resources or character?
Being rich and having so much wealth goes beyond resources and character, you might have all the necessary tools and ability and still remain poor. Your environment matters a lot when it comes to acquiring riches and becoming wealthy. You can have the ideas and character to build wealth but without an enabling environment to make it work the person might not excel or bring out his full potentials. We have a lot of talented individuals with dreams that can transform their lives and impact their environment and country but bad leadership will not make them to actualize their dreams.

Most people are poor in Africa, because their leaders don't have visions, imagine living in a country where there is no constant electricity, no good roads, no portable water, insecurities everywhere and their leaders are busy embezzling public funds. I think that it's easier to make it in countries where there is peace and prosperity, where there is conducive environment to harness ideas and make it to work. If you have the resources, skills and the right mindset you can become rich easier than people with the same requirements in underdeveloped countries.











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September 23, 2024, 04:03:24 PM
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Neither resources or character, but fate.

Imagine you're born in India and unfortunately you're a Dalit aka lowest social class in India, you can only work in sanitation jobs and there's no way for you to change your life no matter how hard you try and work, because you're a Dalit.

Their life is already hard, stop putting more pressure on them, being born poor and dying poor are fates.

Forced by the circumstances of their birth and poverty, Dalits in India continue to work as sanitation workers: manual scavengers, cleaners of drains & sewers, garbage collectors, and sweepers of roads.
Even if you are born into a poor community or poor home, that is entirely not your fault. But getting stuck in that mindset and mentality that it is your fate to be poor is not proper at all.


To break free from poverty of any sort, you have to break free from your mindset. You have to tell yourself that you are worthy of good things and that in this life, you are going to work towards good things and you are going to magnet good things.

There is no where it is written that certain people are supposed to be poor and certain people are supposed to be rich. So when you find yourself in a community that is poor, there are ways you can break free. Now, tech is the new gold. You can learn a tech skill, as long as you have a laptop and you have access to light and internet, you can work remotely for any country.

It may be a bit tough starting up to break free into the tech world, but when you keep trying, you are going to eventually get your breakthrough. It is this poverty mindset that is getting a lot of people stuck. The mindset of what we are meant to be, nobody is going to accept me, I'm from this part of the world. Trash that mindset and affirm positive things for yourself

It is the mindset that is killing a lot of people. So, get a tech skill. Besides, Bitcoin doesn't even know where you are from. When you are able to invest in cryptocurrency, it doesn't know where you are from. Even airdrops, participating in airdrop projects, it doesn't know where you are from. You might start off broke and struggle, but when you are intentional about it, you will make it.

So, first, fix your mindset. You are not born to be poor. It's not your fate to die poor. Second, get up and get doing. Get a skill, learn it, perfect it, sell yourself online. Nobody is restricting anybody from marketing their skills online.

Do investment, invest in crypto, invest offline, and let's see if you won't be richer than people around you. So, change your mindset. Start with mindset.

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September 23, 2024, 05:14:22 PM
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And why is it that some people with determination and perseverance still don’t manage to escape the shackles of poverty? Is it the lack of resources? If they were given resources, will they finally be successful?

Being rich and having so much wealth goes beyond resources and character, you might have all the necessary tools and ability and still remain poor.
Inheritance is what made most rich people who they're today, making money from scratch is not simple. And it's not one person's journey to be rich, a family or even tribe is needed to grow wealth. For example, the Rothchild family have been controlling finance for decades or century, and every member of that family enjoys riches, which have existed before they were born.

Hence, if anybody wants to build wealth they are meant to consider it a family business, that'll be bestowed on his descendants. However, people suffer hardship, because their one time rich parent didn't initiate them into learning his trade.

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