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September 11, 2024, 03:33:44 AM
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I found these hilarious betting odds on Cloudbet for the US presidential debate tonight lol.

How many times will Kamala Harris say Weird? (under 1.5 or over which im confused about because what is the .5!!! haha)

Will Trump say Bitcoin during the debate?

Also Who will win the presidential debate tonight?

What are your predictions?

Have you come across any other interesting betting markets for the debate?

The bets you get on the US presidential debates are quite interesting and show that such events are quite unpredictable; examples include: Kamala Harris-How many times will say "weird"? Use .5 to indicate that she will say less than 2 times-under 1.5-or less than 2 times-1.5 times-to deal with the uncertainty of exact numbers. Another bet is that Trump will speak about Bitcoin, symbolic of his changes in views regarding cryptocurrencies. And add an element of surprise. Declaring the debate winner is easy but can be tricky since it all depends on individual judgment and how the debate resonates with the public and the media. Other types of bets may be interesting, such as betting on the topics to discuss. Indicators about the candidate's performance could include anything from memorable speeches to the aftermath following discussion in the research. Analysis of betting sites or other forms of forums Other bizarre, out-of-the-norm bets may be disclosed related to dispute.

Seems like Harris is already starting things off being weird. She’s making them give her a miniature sized podium to stand behind so that she looks as big as Trump to the people watching at home. I think this goes to show how normalized it is for her to perform tricks to try and make herself appear different than she is to voters.

What an a observation, and i think it is fascinating what role staging and presentation can play in shaping these ideas. Evidently, everything is fiddled with to influence voters and I think It's part of a larger strategy to raise awareness. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if those measures make a difference in either debate behavior or betting markets. It's one of those sequels that simply adds an element of suspense to the whole situation. Right yeah?


Weird because of the odds that's being placed for Kamala? Well, that's what the bookies are all about for what they think is weird for us might not be for them.

I don't mind if Trump will mention Bitcoin or not because they're all just words and marketing campaign before the US citizens that are into Bitcoin. It moves emotion to make them believe it is.

Whoever wins the debate will get more votes afterwards if something is interesting about them. But I think what people wants to hear is about prioritizing US citizens and world peace.

As a matter of fact, Kamala Harris' 'strange' claim is just an illustration of how bookstores are looking for unusual things they can publish. Interestingly, it is these little things they usually focus on-the ones that probably might sound strange to the average person-but it is part of a greater betting scheme. If I may add in regards to Trump's comments about Bitcoin, they were more of an attempt to appeal to some voters than to actually affect policy change. The debate's impact on us "voters" attitudes will likely depend on how the candidates tackle key issues such as prioritizing people's needs and world peace. For me these are real concerns that can influence voters and change their decisions.

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September 11, 2024, 04:22:50 AM
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I found these hilarious betting odds on Cloudbet for the US presidential debate tonight lol.

How many times will Kamala Harris say Weird? (under 1.5 or over which im confused about because what is the .5!!! haha)

Will Trump say Bitcoin during the debate?

Also Who will win the presidential debate tonight?

What are your predictions?

Have you come across any other interesting betting markets for the debate?

Interesting betting market, but I’m sure only a few would place bets on that, and they would likely limit the wager. It’s my first time seeing these kinds of odds, and I’m surprised this even exists. I know there are bets on who will win in the US elections, but this one is quite unique. I think not all sportsbooks offer this, and I’m not really into Cloudbet either.

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September 11, 2024, 05:38:28 AM
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Also Who will win the presidential debate tonight?

What are your predictions?

Have you come across any other interesting betting markets for the debate?
No matter what the arguement pretty sure everyone will bet that Trumps win the debate or atleast (Hoping). We all knew Trump got a card on cryptocurrency and got platform for it as well so everyone here might be supporting Trump, I guess no matter what the odds on betting here we all want to bet on Trump.

But with the debate a while ago isnt match as the moderators are clearly on the side of Kamala.

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September 11, 2024, 10:40:20 AM
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Weird because of the odds that's being placed for Kamala? Well, that's what the bookies are all about for what they think is weird for us might not be for them.

I don't mind if Trump will mention Bitcoin or not because they're all just words and marketing campaign before the US citizens that are into Bitcoin. It moves emotion to make them believe it is.

Whoever wins the debate will get more votes afterwards if something is interesting about them. But I think what people wants to hear is about prioritizing US citizens and world peace.
I think it's not because of the odds but it is just their verbal expression. Even what the OP said can imply that Harris likes to say the 'weird' word. If about the odds and the bookies, I think there is no weird on them but there is always a reason about the odds that we can see on our screens.

I think a lot of us are now aware about the involvement of Trump in Bitcoin, so yeah that it may not really matter if he will still mention the word BTC or not. Though, him mentioning it, can only give more positive impression to the coin. That shows that they are not just a simple word. And as you said, they can also act as a marketing campaign or a material for it. They are known for these words, so we can say that it was super effective.

However, I think before Trump got involved in BTC and often use this word, he must have another word. Not just word but I think he also have a hand gesture and a facial expression. You mentioned emotion there but they can also use it if their goal is to attract people (lots of them).

There might only be people who was like not having an emotion and they won't ever fall for these. Winning a debate seems impressive but people can still have a favouritism, so they might still stick with their favourites, no matter what.

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September 11, 2024, 11:41:39 AM
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I guess Trump supporters will choose Trump while Harris supporters will choose Harris.

Not sure about it, but if I had to bet, I agree with Davidvictorson that Trump will probably say "Bitcoin" Grin
Likely Harris may start it with criticism like this OP article: Trump’s call for a bitcoin strategic reserve is a very bad idea. But which is a wrong speculation. So, I guess both of them will mention bitcoin. Or they both may not mention bitcoin.
The thing is that we may end Up not having both of them mentioning bitcoin at all, i mean most times the bitcoin at the center of candidates campaign is somewhat a hype and I can see most of that hype is coming from the few threads that was created here on bitcointalk when Triumph bitcoin speeches were repeatedly put in our faces.
I guessed that Trump would be defensive and not offensive and that was what that happened. It was Harris that was attacking Trump which is what we should expect. So only what I guess is that Harris could attack Trump with his bitcoin strategic reserve plan if he become the president, but she did not mention anything like that. I do not think that bitcoin at the center of the campaign is a hype but they both just see the debate not need of talking about bitcoin. Harris would have really planned what to talk about. Many people could have even warned her not to attack Trump is anything that has to do with bitcoin or cryptocurrencies. In Harris campaigns, she neither mention nor mention anything about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general. Talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general negatively could reduce more crypto enthusiasts that would vote for her. This is politics.

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September 11, 2024, 01:53:24 PM
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Seems like Harris is already starting things off being weird. She’s making them give her a miniature sized podium to stand behind so that she looks as big as Trump to the people watching at home. I think this goes to show how normalized it is for her to perform tricks to try and make herself appear different than she is to voters.

didn't see that
that's quite crazy



I saw a tweet with the words to bet in the debate, "cat" was a world that Trump said and people could bet one
unusual word
do you think he knew it beforehand and did it on purpose?

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September 11, 2024, 11:53:03 PM
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Weird because of the odds that's being placed for Kamala? Well, that's what the bookies are all about for what they think is weird for us might not be for them.

I don't mind if Trump will mention Bitcoin or not because they're all just words and marketing campaign before the US citizens that are into Bitcoin. It moves emotion to make them believe it is.

Whoever wins the debate will get more votes afterwards if something is interesting about them. But I think what people wants to hear is about prioritizing US citizens and world peace.

As a matter of fact, Kamala Harris' 'strange' claim is just an illustration of how bookstores are looking for unusual things they can publish. Interestingly, it is these little things they usually focus on-the ones that probably might sound strange to the average person-but it is part of a greater betting scheme.
Well, I cannot speak for the wholly about that because I am not a resident of the US and only following what's being said on the media. And what we know about the media is that they're bias literally and are only showing what they want to show to the public.

If I may add in regards to Trump's comments about Bitcoin, they were more of an attempt to appeal to some voters than to actually affect policy change. The debate's impact on us "voters" attitudes will likely depend on how the candidates tackle key issues such as prioritizing people's needs and world peace. For me these are real concerns that can influence voters and change their decisions.
That's true about debates but it varies per country and per candidate. But this one, the pulse of the people really are in variety and each of them have points to make and it all makes sense.

The real concerns about the people should be stated and I haven't watched the live so I'd do with the replay later.

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September 12, 2024, 02:24:22 PM
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Weird because of the odds that's being placed for Kamala? Well, that's what the bookies are all about for what they think is weird for us might not be for them.

I don't mind if Trump will mention Bitcoin or not because they're all just words and marketing campaign before the US citizens that are into Bitcoin. It moves emotion to make them believe it is.

Whoever wins the debate will get more votes afterwards if something is interesting about them. But I think what people wants to hear is about prioritizing US citizens and world peace.

As a matter of fact, Kamala Harris' 'strange' claim is just an illustration of how bookstores are looking for unusual things they can publish. Interestingly, it is these little things they usually focus on-the ones that probably might sound strange to the average person-but it is part of a greater betting scheme.
Well, I cannot speak for the wholly about that because I am not a resident of the US and only following what's being said on the media. And what we know about the media is that they're bias literally and are only showing what they want to show to the public.

If I may add in regards to Trump's comments about Bitcoin, they were more of an attempt to appeal to some voters than to actually affect policy change. The debate's impact on us "voters" attitudes will likely depend on how the candidates tackle key issues such as prioritizing people's needs and world peace. For me these are real concerns that can influence voters and change their decisions.
That's true about debates but it varies per country and per candidate. But this one, the pulse of the people really are in variety and each of them have points to make and it all makes sense.

The real concerns about the people should be stated and I haven't watched the live so I'd do with the replay later.

I don't live in the us either but these elections affect the whole world and will determine several things for crypto
this will be interesting to see

I don't really believe candidates care about world peace, unfortunately

you can't really trust what comes out of a politician mouth either

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September 12, 2024, 08:33:20 PM
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I don't live in the us either but these elections affect the whole world and will determine several things for crypto
this will be interesting to see

I don't really believe candidates care about world peace, unfortunately

you can't really trust what comes out of a politician mouth either
I disagree, it doesn't impact as much as people think. First of all if we are talking about just the crypto part, then I do not think that Trump will do much, he doesn't care about crypto as much as you guys think he does, he cares about the love and support he gets from them, and certainly the donations as well, he gets his ego petted and he just gets out as a person who is richer and happier, that's why he does crypto stuff.

Secondly, if we are talking about either candidate making the nation better, it doesn't impact us as non-USA people, unless we have something to do with USA, like even if you work for someone there, but if we have nothing to do with it, then we should be fine. I have been alive for very long, I remember papa bush, and none of the presidents did anything to my nation that matters at all. USA attacks some countries, unless they attack mine, I won't be bothered with any change at all.

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I may have a slightly different opinion about this type of betting, even if it seems reasonable to some. Personally, I see that gambling bets on the US presidential election or the debates between the candidates can raise ethical and legal controversy. On the one hand, these bets provide a kind of entertainment and political interaction and attract the interest of many bettors, especially in spaces where bets are diversified beyond sports bets or games. But on the other hand, they may pose a threat to political integrity, as democratic events are exploited for financial gain. They may also lead to manipulation or the spread of misleading information with the aim of influencing the results in the bettors’ favor. This is very likely and I think the relevant authorities should intervene.

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I found these hilarious betting odds on Cloudbet for the US presidential debate tonight lol.

How many times will Kamala Harris say Weird? (under 1.5 or over which im confused about because what is the .5!!! haha)

Will Trump say Bitcoin during the debate?

Also Who will win the presidential debate tonight?

What are your predictions?

Have you come across any other interesting betting markets for the debate?
Many things can be gambled on once you are a famous person. Who would even thing of this type of odds just for saying a phrase repeatedly. Funny thing is that don't be surprised so many people have place their bets on this. I also want to believe that there will be other bookies that will have odds on some other aspects of the US presidential debate tonight. It is going to be an interesting time. While some are paying attention others are paying attention to know if they will get paid or not(pun intended).

Will Trump say bitcoin? Most probably because he knows people from the community will be watching and listening.

Who will win? I don't think any one knows yet.
If Kamala Harris is expected to say weird a lot, for sure Trump on the other hand will also talk about bitcoin because it's his key towards winning from this presidential debate. But I must say, betting like this is very unlikely saying how many times weird or bitcoin will be said. I'm not going to put a bet something like this, I'm more into the real outcome of this controversial presidential election when November comes.

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Bitcoin is very low, despite being associated with crypto for the bet and this being a crypto betting website
I mean, if it has to do with handshakes, I'd totally understand... Ehnn, I don't see anything wrong with the reduction anyway. If you can recall, Trump was really hitting on spot about taking up responsibilities on show casing Bitcoin in the US, improving/ creating a legal terms and all... You was expecting them to increase the odds on that?

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So the markets say 72% chances of no handshake, this....well...it's just sad!
I get it, they are adversaries, and they don't like each other but still, people lost medals at the Olympics for this and this is no real war between them.
wouldn't it be so daft that someone feels these politicians are rivals? Donald and Harris? No matter how contradictory their primary assignments and presentations might be, these people don't even care as much as not shaking themselves in a rally.

How do I normalize this new feature in my head? I still cringe at it, I dunno why

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I may have a slightly different opinion about this type of betting, even if it seems reasonable to some. Personally, I see that gambling bets on the US presidential election or the debates between the candidates can raise ethical and legal controversy. On the one hand, these bets provide a kind of entertainment and political interaction and attract the interest of many bettors, especially in spaces where bets are diversified beyond sports bets or games. But on the other hand, they may pose a threat to political integrity, as democratic events are exploited for financial gain. They may also lead to manipulation or the spread of misleading information with the aim of influencing the results in the bettors’ favor. This is very likely and I think the relevant authorities should intervene.

Maybe, you can look at this way, if you are a bettor. Just look for the profitability side, don't take it too personally. Politicians are politicians. At the end of the day, they may change their stances and for them, that's normal. So if you believe this is just a waste of time, you don't need to bet. But for some, this will give them avenue to earn good money if they are just being objective here, to bet on the possible results.

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September 12, 2024, 10:51:48 PM
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I may have a slightly different opinion about this type of betting, even if it seems reasonable to some. Personally, I see that gambling bets on the US presidential election or the debates between the candidates can raise ethical and legal controversy. On the one hand, these bets provide a kind of entertainment and political interaction and attract the interest of many bettors, especially in spaces where bets are diversified beyond sports bets or games. But on the other hand, they may pose a threat to political integrity, as democratic events are exploited for financial gain. They may also lead to manipulation or the spread of misleading information with the aim of influencing the results in the bettors’ favor. This is very likely and I think the relevant authorities should intervene.

Maybe, you can look at this way, if you are a bettor. Just look for the profitability side, don't take it too personally. Politicians are politicians. At the end of the day, they may change their stances and for them, that's normal. So if you believe this is just a waste of time, you don't need to bet. But for some, this will give them avenue to earn good money if they are just being objective here, to bet on the possible results.

I am not in a position to evaluate the performance and whims of others. I am here to present my opinion objectively and analytically, not to directly encourage people to avoid betting. There are specialized bodies that are supposed to have their say in this regard because in addition to the ethical and legal aspects, gambling bets on elections and political debates may lead to other social problems. The most prominent of which is the rise of political division, as betting may go beyond entertainment to become a means of manipulating results negative emotions towards one/both candidates and even the whole electoral process. These bets may also affect the credibility of elections and encourage the spread of fake news or manipulation of public expectations in favor of bettors. From a legal point of view, it may raise questions about transparency and democracy when turning elections into a means of personal profit. I think many agree with me on this.

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September 12, 2024, 11:05:30 PM
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everytime I check these markets I wonder if the cadidates don't check them too
Trump could simply bet on something really unusual and make huge bank each debate, not that he needs it but it's crazy that these markets exist in the first place... so easy to game

what do you guys think?

It could be possible, but it would take one of the candidates to go into the market and accept to send their KYC documents to the casino for them in order to place a bet. They could avoid so with the help of a third party, sure, but there is still a large risk for it to be found out. I am not sure if in that instance it would be a crime within the jurisdiction of the United States, but it could affect the view and opinion people have on the candidate.
If some casino feels confident enough to come up with markets like this one, it is because they feel there is a very low chance any of those candidates will try to cheat their way into getting some money from bettors.
Trump already has enough money in the form of assets and there are big donors to his campaign, Kamala Harris would be more likely to run such a scheme or, at least someone close enough to her. Still, pretty much she has gotten more important things to care about at this moment.

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September 13, 2024, 02:06:15 AM
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I found these hilarious betting odds on Cloudbet for the US presidential debate tonight lol.

How many times will Kamala Harris say Weird? (under 1.5 or over which im confused about because what is the .5!!! haha)

Will Trump say Bitcoin during the debate?

Also Who will win the presidential debate tonight?

What are your predictions?

Have you come across any other interesting betting markets for the debate?

You know that betting on elections has a high chance of being manipulated, right?
I understand that what you brought up is fun at first, but it is certainly a type of betting that people should stay far away from.

Look... for Trump, for example, it won't make much difference in his campaign if he purposely swaps the word Bitcoin for Cryptocurrencies in his speech, or if he decides to say Bitcoin several times in a row to emphasize a very specific topic.
However, if he (or someone close to him) has made this bet, he will be able to raise a good amount of money much more easily and without raising suspicion than a player who scores an own goal or intentionally receives a red card.

Anyway, I don't like political betting for these reasons.

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September 13, 2024, 02:51:55 AM
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I don't live in the us either but these elections affect the whole world and will determine several things for crypto
this will be interesting to see

I don't really believe candidates care about world peace, unfortunately

you can't really trust what comes out of a politician mouth either
I disagree, it doesn't impact as much as people think. First of all if we are talking about just the crypto part, then I do not think that Trump will do much, he doesn't care about crypto as much as you guys think he does, he cares about the love and support he gets from them, and certainly the donations as well, he gets his ego petted and he just gets out as a person who is richer and happier, that's why he does crypto stuff.

Secondly, if we are talking about either candidate making the nation better, it doesn't impact us as non-USA people, unless we have something to do with USA, like even if you work for someone there, but if we have nothing to do with it, then we should be fine. I have been alive for very long, I remember papa bush, and none of the presidents did anything to my nation that matters at all. USA attacks some countries, unless they attack mine, I won't be bothered with any change at all.

I agree with you that Trump doesn't care about crypto as much as he claims, he just wants to win as many votes as possible. But to say that the outcome of this election does not affect us is a mistake. It not only affects our investments but also affects our daily lives. You should not deny that the United States is still the dominant country in the world and the entire world economy depends largely on them. They control the world's money printing machine and can influence the price of every commodity in the world.

For example, any statement from the Fed can shake the world financial markets and can cause our investments to lose tens of percent of their profits. Their decisions affect us so much, how can we say they don't affect us?

If Kalama wins and Bitcoin dumps to $30k, don't tell me that doesn't impact your portfolio, or if Trump wins and Bitcoin goes to $100k and you won't be happy about it. Or if oil prices go down, interest rates go down, the world has more jobs and more supply…don't tell me that doesn't directly affect your life. America is the country that can do all of those things.

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September 13, 2024, 04:44:29 AM
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I don't follow the debate because that still the same when a candidate say many things about his programs that he will to do if he elected later. Trump can say about Bitcoin many times to gain more vote from Bitcoiners but we don't know his real plans behinds of saying about Bitcoin. When he elected, he may forgets that and his promises because that is what happen after someone elected in the election. I don't have any predictions since I am not too interested in political but maybe I will check it later if I think that is interesting to place the bet. We should not take too serious with the debate because they can do many things to convince the audience so they can choose them for the vote.

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We should not take too serious with the debate because they can do many things to convince the audience so they can choose them for the vote.
You are partly right, however in this scenario we can witness how they will persuade people on why should we vote for them. Its also served as ticket to integrity since if one of them win people will expect on what they can do when started their office job. Well some do it and others only for campaign strategy, thats how people learn what type of person they are if they started it already. Then later on, if ever they wanna run again, the community knows their capabilities in action and in works.

Its just like both have office experience and you will choose which one did a lot for the country.

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September 13, 2024, 09:46:40 PM
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I don't live in the us either but these elections affect the whole world and will determine several things for crypto
this will be interesting to see

I don't really believe candidates care about world peace, unfortunately

you can't really trust what comes out of a politician mouth either
I disagree, it doesn't impact as much as people think. First of all if we are talking about just the crypto part, then I do not think that Trump will do much, he doesn't care about crypto as much as you guys think he does, he cares about the love and support he gets from them, and certainly the donations as well, he gets his ego petted and he just gets out as a person who is richer and happier, that's why he does crypto stuff.

Secondly, if we are talking about either candidate making the nation better, it doesn't impact us as non-USA people, unless we have something to do with USA, like even if you work for someone there, but if we have nothing to do with it, then we should be fine. I have been alive for very long, I remember papa bush, and none of the presidents did anything to my nation that matters at all. USA attacks some countries, unless they attack mine, I won't be bothered with any change at all.

I don't know, many of the world international trade is based in dollars so the strenght of their economy will affect the whole world
sometimes in a minor way sometimes in a massive one
time will tell but I think markets will react more positively if Trump wins.

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