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September 11, 2024, 10:17:59 PM
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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..




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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

Lies are attractive and they are the only things that entice people to believe in some misconceptions about somethings. If they don’t lie, they will never get what they set to achieve from the public view of things. Everyone wants to eat big but don’t want to learn it the right way to eat big. So the falsely end result is what they’re anticipating for.

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- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

The realistic traders can also fall in the category of the optimistic ones. No realistic trader is not optimistic, if they’re not, they will not believe in reality of to what the price of bitcoin will be or not. This gives them more confidence when they’re about to take a trade because of the certainty they’ve of the market and the realistic path it’ll follow.











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September 12, 2024, 01:09:28 AM
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Na the hate part I been Dey fine for your write up but, I no really get am shah. Although, I fit relate say, people no want Dey hear say, person lose money for here or there. You hardly hear people even talk about their loses cef, only success via say, them no wan scare people away but, talking about this loses go actually make people adjust and guide themselves well.
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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...
Hey mate you're confusing the whole idea of a trader and investor as though they are synonymous with each other. Crypto traders buy and sell cryptocurrency with each fluctuating opportunity that arises in the market to make profit. We have the sclapers, day and swing traders etc... Meanwhile it is cryptocurrency investors that hodl and accumulate their portfolio with a long term plan which could be for months or year(s). And should you plan on hodling any coin for a long time to make profit bitcoin is a sure plug.

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September 12, 2024, 04:01:17 AM
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I actually read your post for several times looking for the part wey connect the topic and the write up, because I wanted to see the reason wey make you think say people hate realistic traders according to your assumption. For me I go talk say nobody really hate any person. Sometimes other people's choice and kind of life varies. It all depends on watin person want achieve. Some people no get patience for life and them see holding bitcoin for long as waste of time as their aim na to get immediate profit. While some people see say bitcoin na the Koko and dem no fit just loseguard am like that. Them dey willing to dey with am as long as possible. So watin you dey think say na hate na just varieties of choices.

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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..





Most of these forex traders are actually a scam and my reason for saying this is because they flaunt profits from demo accounts and edit to advertise online so people can get enticed to buy their courses or sign up for their mentorship classes but meanwhile they make their money from people not from trading. People dislike some of them because of the fake lifestyle they portray all for the purpose of scamming or trying to get the attention of people, it's actually a marketing strategy. Real traders that make their money from the market actively don't come out to make noise
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Hey mate you're confusing the whole idea of a trader and investor as though they are synonymous with each other. Crypto traders buy and sell cryptocurrency with each fluctuating opportunity that arises in the market to make profit. We have the sclapers, day and swing traders etc... Meanwhile it is cryptocurrency investors that hodl and accumulate their portfolio with a long term plan which could be for months or year(s). And should you plan on hodling any coin for a long time to make profit bitcoin is a sure plug.
Good that there is someone that actually reads because this was the response I was expecting to read, and If I did not see it, I would have said it. @OP, it is obvious that your understanding of investing and trading is still very shallow. Not all investors are traders, and trading requires more skills than investing.

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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..




Don't really get the picture of what you are saying sha but like everyone knows, it is either you are holding for long terms as an investor or you are trading on daily basis base on how you see the market which I believe is the two categories you are talking about. There is only one line that differentiate the two which is that with one the risk involvement is high and the other low because of the little certainty that comes when you are holding up your investment and that too is if the coin is Bitcoin because I believe holding altcoins can always go sideways.
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Your topic and some parts of your posts are contradictory but I’ll speak base on your highlighted points.


- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

This is something that even some optimist traders have in them, I can’t seem to find a lot of difference in them as they possess some kind of similarities just that they have more the subject used to differentiate them more in them than the other they’re not been described about. A realistic trade could bear more patience and wait for the market since they know the market law can’t be broken and no matter how long it takes, it will still work out in the long term.

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- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

That’s to say that optimistic traders hopes are very high and are always looking for a way to get rich quickly. In as far as that type of high hopes expectations is needed for a trader to grow in the space, it doesn’t mean the steps to achieving that will be skipped. You need to have worked for that through learning, patience and understanding of the market structure. It always don’t come easy and when it does come at last, you’ll value it more because of the value you’ve putting into learning it.

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I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..

A newbie should rather have their plans ready and not just follow on all the footsteps of a trader they admire. They are just there to guide you and not you following their footsteps. Their footsteps may not align with yours and level of comprehension, so it’s better to stick to something more realistic that you see than what you don’t see and just blindly following.

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Because of say pipo dey see as odas dey make one or two moves and dem dey end up well for d crypto mata and trading generally, e go com dey look to some pipo like say the trading or crypto mata and something wey dem go fit run, na wen dem don enter dem go com dey shake shake dey jump up and down when dem see small dip, because dem no know say d mata na up and down mata, em go dey expect say na only up up make dem dey benefit and when e no come b like dat, dem go com dey stress too much, but e good as all of us dey here we dey learn well so we no fit behave like dem.

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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask.


People want to make money and are not ready to take the risk, and that is why some people get paid and teach them how to trade, so the people that are telling them does and don’t of what they want to either realistic or optimistic anyone they want to do, they will not tell them the negative part of it, which is losing funds; they will just tell them how sweet it is and then leave them without telling the risk behind what they want to do. They need quick money, and some of them think it is happening in the crypto space. That is why they are full of lies; they don’t mind being convinced and investing without the knowledge of what they want to do.

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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..





I normally differentiate them as investors ( long-term investment) and traders (short-term investment). Because investors are those that literally believe that is not all about the profit one can make today or instantly, is about profit one can make in a long run (future). Imo trading is not bad , but it need a certain level of skills and knowledge before I can embark on it . Because going into trading with no knowledge or skill is like yah planning to get reckt intentionally.

While Investors especially when comes to bitcoin believe that in a long run bitcoin price will be different from now . In a good way , and the believe more the adoption, more bitcoin will tend to grow and surge more. I keep telling those that are trading, despite being a trading , be smart to also have a goud bitcoin Stashes.

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From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers
Traders are different from hodlers. When it comes to investment in bitcoin, we have short-term invstors and long-term invstors.

Short-term investors are classified as traders because they cannot hodli their bitcoin for complete four years because of profits, they sell whenever they see little profits. Some buy bitcoin and immediately they see a little profit, they sell immediately and hope to buy back when the price of bitcoin dips. While there are also some traders who buys bitcoin during the bear and sell when the bull run comes.

On the other, long-term investors are hodlers, they concentrate more on buying more bitcoin to increase their bitcoin stash because they see bitcoin as an investment that is worth hodli for long. Such people can buy and hodli their bitcoin for 4-10 years and above before thinking of selling part of it. A long-term investor must have a means of income use only use his extra cash to invest in bitcoin whenever he gets his pay so that he can hodli for long but this needs discipline and sacrifice.

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It is because people don't like when you tell them the truth.
They prefer that you sugarcoat it or give them false information over
Being sincere with them on the reality involved in trading or investing.
That is why they fall victim of traders that only lie about having best trading
Strategy even though those people are purely not being truthful.
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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling,

From all you have explained I'm yet to understand the reason you mentioned that people in crypto dose not want to hear the truth because you should have also enlighten us why you think so, however from your definition about the various kind of investors shows that you don't understand trading or investment that much because your definition about realistic trader seem to be contradicting with a long term holding, so let me clarify you on that aspects, a trader is totally different from holding, so any kind of Bitcoin investment that has to do with buying and selling is consider to be trading while long term are those who holds there Bitcoin.

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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

Don't know what you mean by realistic traders because a trader is a trader and they literally sort after short term profits so if you are talking about those who make accumulations and HODL then you are talking about the real investors and not traders. Trading is quite different from investing because traders are more concerned about the activities of the market and how to apply various techniques in order to make profits within a particular period of time but an investor is someone who is patient enough and focuses on buying and hodling for long term future growths without caring about market activities such as fluctuations of prices.

   You're mixing up things about trading and investing because the risk management of a trader and an investor is not the same because an investor can manage the risk assessment of their investment but for a trader, the risk assessment is even higher which can lead to losses no matter how you try to manage the situation.











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I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..


I go just pick this part of your post to talk on because the other aspects look more confusing than convincing. Like what do you really mean by hating realistic trader?

However, talking about being optimistic in trading, it is not bad but you have to take away emotion and build more on your capacity in your trading skills then you can become optimistic when you don do the right thing. But you can't just randomly put trade on and become optimistic because of mere speculation and believing that market will favour you, it doesn't work that way. This optimism dey make new people for trading lose money because dem only see market price dey go up or down and then them go just run enter without research on within dey cause the movement. Trading no easy though and if e no favour you on your strategy then you stop instead of just being optimistic to get a better result without trading skill.
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Trading the financial market isn't an easy job and a lot of these traders deserve some accolades but most of them don't tell beginners the truth and that's where the problem is. There's nobody that makes money on something actively that would try to convince someone else to invest in it, these traders send a lot of people dms on social media platforms telling them to join their mentorship classes or try to sell Their courses because this is actually what gives them their money. If they were actively involved in trading they wouldn't have time to convince people to buy their courses.











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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

Life is mostly now about contents, everything you see, people doing it, is for contents. People now preferred to be lied to, to make them feel alright than to tell them the truth. Lies sell better and are believable than when you tell the truth. Lies are use to sell online courses that the content creators benefit from. People too lie to feel fulfilled and pretend to be who they're not but wished to be, so always expect lies in the industry especially as this is an industry that most of its participants brags.

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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

Traders aren't hodlers, don't do the later with hopes that you're doing the first. You can do both but when doing one of them, be specific about that to avoid being at a loss without knowing.I don't find any problem with being optimistic or realistic but don't just over do any because that's when you lose yourself (when you overdo anything).

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The realistic traders can also fall in the category of the optimistic ones. No realistic trader is not optimistic, if they’re not, they will not believe in reality of to what the price of bitcoin will be or not. This gives them more confidence when they’re about to take a trade because of the certainty they’ve of the market and the realistic path it’ll follow.
A realistic trader is also optimistic. They wouldn't trade Bitcoin if they weren't hopeful. They study the market, make smart investments, and wait for the price to rise.

These traders are careful, not impulsive. They don't panic when the market drops. But deep down, they want the market to favor them, so they can make a profit. That's being optimistic too.

I appreciate realistic traders because they keep the trading world sane. When optimistic traders face market drops, some get emotional - crying, getting drunk, or feeling hopeless. But realistic traders bounce back.l after a while because they foresaw potential losses and stayed prepared.

Realistic traders balance optimism with caution, keeping the market stable. Optimistic traders help, but realistic ones bring balance.

Because realistic traders are hopeful but prepared for losses, that makes them reliable.

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