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September 12, 2024, 02:58:53 PM
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should gambling winners donate

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used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions
Now, you have a situation where you want to obligate or coerce someone into donating, you might as well call it tax and put a 1% on every win, it will be just as much of a donation as the other one!

A donation is voluntary, you can't discuss what people "should" do with voluntary stuff!  Wink

The only way I see this ever happening and working would be if those donations would be considered tax credits on full value, but I doubt any government would want to create another tax loophole, especially one related to gambling!

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September 12, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
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You already answered the question with your second gesture because it's impossible for me to pay for someone else voluntary behaviour. how can you put your hands into the fire and expect me to use my little wins to pay for your bad behaviour? it's a big NO for me, I wouldn't even pay a dime for anyone of such.

@Op if you have a casino or gambling ground and you plan on implementing this idea that big winners will be taxed for addiction support program, you're just step from crashing the business because a lot of customers would turn away from you for just that single reason.

Gambling is addictive we all know so anyone in this present day that warnings are becoming the colours of casinos for gamblers not to get addicted or for gamblers to take responsibility of their life, anyone who fails to take those warns shouldn't expect to be helped by for any reason expect by volunteers.
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September 12, 2024, 03:03:07 PM
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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?

This is entirely funny like a gambler that got a bi win should donate some funds for addiction support programs? Like who does that isn't it same money each and every gambler uses to gamble and then the ones that are not lucky enough lose while the lucky ones win. Seriously I don't see any reason than any big winners should do such.

What makes you think so, possibly you think the big winners are comfortable with gambling just to get wins, I think every gambler should fight for himself before ever which you start gambling know what's it's all about and don't forget to always gamble with money you can afford to lose and definitely you won't be at loss or regrets when you eventually lose. And yes everyone is at Liberty to do what they like ad regarding their money so I know for sure that it's just 1% that would do such meanwhile y'all know what it takes to be addicted to gambling so it's better to limit it thsn look for someone else to intercede for your addiction or loss.

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September 12, 2024, 03:06:09 PM
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Absolutely NO! This is not their matter. Anyone should be free and decide how to spend money.
If they will be forced to donate part of the wins (even if trivial amount) it would be just something sad.

I can understand a voluntary charity, but there are many many good causes that deserve direct support not only related gambling.

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September 12, 2024, 03:17:22 PM
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
Well, if gamblers does support the addicts with such programs by donating some portion of their winnings then that's a good thing but if they don't donate any money to such programs then no one can call them selfish or greedy.

I believe philanthropists are the ones who might consider supporting such programs by donating some money to those, and I believe some gamblers can also be philanthropists.

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September 12, 2024, 03:58:11 PM
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
Actually, it is not that fault that those gamblers are addicted to gambling, but helping them by donating some funds to them is nothing bad. It is by choice and it's not a must that they should donate to them at all.
However, it's not their responsibility to give them some money out of them money that they have won from their bets, if we want to talk about people that are supposed to help the addicted gamblers we should be focusing on the casino because the casino are the people that collect from them legally. Besides when the addicted gamblers win the casino lose, but when the casino wins the gamblers loses.











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September 12, 2024, 04:13:44 PM
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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
If they want to. It's not something people should be forced to do so. It's pretty similar to how people want rich people to pay more taxes or something and while I get the idea yeah that it could help in general, the setup isn't just made properly for it. Not to mention that it doesn't even guarantee that the support programs will actually be able to help people. If we were going to force people to pay up when they win, might as well use it for money that's actually guaranteed to be useful no?

Anything that's about "donating" should always 100% be of free will of the person donating. Anything forced is just, well, forced.

 
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September 12, 2024, 04:14:13 PM
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Did those big winners promote gambling addiction in any way? Or did they advice any gambler to be addicted? I am not saying it's bad to do so, but it should be at self will and not a must. It's the duty of every gambling to maintain a healthy and responsibile gambling lifestyle, any individual that chooses irresponsible gambling lifestyle should take responsibility for themselves.

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September 12, 2024, 04:23:19 PM
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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
If it comes down to it, then the consequences of any created problem should be solved by those who create this problem. I am of the opinion that the casino should make the donation, not other (lucky) gamblers. And even better, if each gambler would be forced to deduct part of the money (as a tax) from bets to a fund to help future gambling addicts, because he himself can at any time become one of these people. Smiley Why should others pay for his "entertainment" - let him start saving from his first bet for future treatment. Smiley

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September 12, 2024, 04:31:11 PM
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It is fine if gamblers decide not to support any gambling addiction programs, it is not as if they will be cursed and start losing money and this won't make those contributing to the program to make more money either, this must be a matter of decision making, let the gamblers decide this themselves.

Let's not forget that gamblers already make their decisions when they are about to start gambling, if you are reckless you will see the result and if you are responsible with your gambling you will also get the results, as for me I can only help if I see any reason to do so, the situation must be very bad for the addicts for me to help.

You can call me names for being wicked but gambling addiction is something you dragged yourself into, no one else but yourself, you let your greed get the best of you, gambling is dangerous, everyone knows this and you must always have this in mind before you decide to be a gambler, the first and last priority of every gambler is becoming a responsible gambler.

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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
This is funny because I believe that there are addicted gamblers who win big and finally lose it back to the casino. How do you think that such addicted gambler after winning big will have the courage to donate to his fellow addicted gambler. From my own point of view if a small portion from your big win is donated to an addicted, don't you think that you are encouraging other gamblers to become addicted in order for them to receive donations. If I may ask, what do you think these addicted gamblers will do to the money donated to them, they will gamble with it and lose it all to the casino since they cannot control themselves.

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September 12, 2024, 04:39:22 PM
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However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
The winner is free to do anything with his money, it is a donation and anyone can donate without any coercion.
It's just about caring, wanting to donate is certainly good and otherwise it won't be a problem and must be appreciated.

Gambling addicts do need rehabilitation costs in order to recover and the planned donation will certainly reduce their cost burden.
But of course preventing addiction is a better thing, so there will be no more addiction.

 
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?

I am more in favor of allowing people to do whatever they desire with their money, to be honest...
Besides, there are already many countries in which money earned from gambling is taxable. That what taxes are for, you know, so people in a collective way can take care of the needs of society one of those needs is looking after those suffering from severe addictions, addiction to drugs, addiction to gambling, among other kinds of addictions.
It would be quite unpopular among gamblers if governments of countries forced lucky gamblers to spend part of their money on something they do not want to.
I am still in favor of universal access to mental health care, though, money gotta come from somewhere, the issue is defining the source of money and making sure the most of the population which pays taxes agrees on that policy. It is a tricky thing.

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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
Do you know that in/directly you encouraging gambling addictions and could lead to worse cases out there. Anyway it's a good suggestions but I will say that to me we shouldn't let this out because it's bad thing instead I will suggest for charity like the orphanage, also the less-privilege such as the homeless and to those who needs food. Yes, I know it's not compulsion that one must do that but let it be at willingness or when they are touched to do that then they may decides to give some part to those people other than instigation to them.

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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
Donating to these type of programs isn't mandatory. Yes, it's good, but in the end, it's up to the gambler who won if he wants to donate some of his winnings to them or not.

It's a good idea, but it will depend on the situation. A gambler who lost a huge amount of money before winning that jackpot might not donate because he just recovered his money. A gambler who won huge money with only a few bucks of money spent might donate some. I don't disagree with the idea of donating, but it's not that common especially if you've lost a lot of money into gambling already which most of the gamblers are experiencing. You said it already that they have the freedom to use those money that they won and isn't obligated to donate.

As for me, they should donate, but not obligated to do if they don't want to.

 
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
No winner is under any form of obligation to donate part of his winning to support a careless gambler. If they must offer any form of assistance, it will be better if the big winners create a platform where they educate the reckless ones on how to gamble responsibly and still win big in the industry and all this is not mandatory on any of these winners. Donating to them is like encouraging them to misbehave because there are friends, families and even strangers available always to come to the rescue. I think a gambling addiction program like this one you said above is not neccessary.

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September 12, 2024, 05:59:27 PM
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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
It is obvious this is not their responsibility and they are under no obligation to donate any money if they do not want to do it, casinos on the other hand not only pay a lot of taxes to counter those effects but they also donate money to charities specialized on dealing with those issues, so this is already being done, the ones that are failing at this are the addicted gamblers themselves, as many of them do not want to admit they are addicted, since doing so will be the same as admitting they have been wrong for years while their friends and families were right about everything.
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
Like you have outlined above, the gambler should be able to do whatever they want to do with their money since no one ever compensates them for their own losses, but if they are generous enough, there are means for them to give back to the community, not just by continuing to raise gambling addiction awareness and the rest of that.
 
If all gamblers are donating a specific amount of money to fight addiction, then that addiction fighting will turn into a major business for one person, and there will be a whole lot of money flowing in their. 

 
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What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?

You have answered your own question, so i don't need to answer it again. regarding the title of this thread, agree or disagree the core issue is not that. but rather, are you willing to donate the proceeds of your winnings for the support of the addiction program that you initiated. for example, you have lost a lot of money on your gambling. at some point, you win from your bet whether big or small. back to your question, are you willing to donate it according to your idea. for me, the matter of donating whatever the motive is has a very noble value. it's just that, very few people do it. especially for gamblers. unless, you get a big jackpot from the lottery draw. btw, sometimes the good intentions that we do do not reach the right target. for example, the donation funds collected have the potential to be used by irresponsible people. personally, if I want to do something that is social and a moral obligation, I prefer to do it right on target. for example, people in our environment who really need it.

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September 12, 2024, 06:35:32 PM
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Well, I believe that winners donating to addiction support programs is a a good idea, as it helps address the negative impact gambling can have on individuals and society. Since gambling can lead to addiction for many, those who win could contribute to balancing out some of the harm caused. However, I understand why others might disagree. Some people feel that winners should be free to use their money however they choose and shouldn't be obligated to solve problems they didn’t directly cause...
What do you think—should gambling winners donate a small part of their winnings to addiction support programs, or is it not really their responsibility?
My money, my rules, I like to plan for it and use it as I like. Fine, you have a point that the donation towards programs sensitizing/reducing addiction is good but you should also know that this is a kind gesture and must be voluntary rather than make people feel as if it is a compulsion. Philanthropism is everybody's business be it gamblers or any other work and it should be done with a free mind. Nevertheless, the program records more funds when they market it or make people feel the need to donate but it shouldn't be targeted to gamblers as it makes me feel as if it's a kind of tax I am obliged to pay for being lucky. This is not supposed to be so, what if I lose? Winning is not absolute in gambling and if one does not plan well for it such might regret when they lose.

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