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September 14, 2024, 03:05:15 AM
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I don't know how gamblers that lives in gambling restricted/ban countries survive it. Luckily for me I live in a country where the government for whatsoever reason has no problem against gambling and that makes me gamble with any casino without fear of being caught in middle like those that live in counties where their religion abhors gambling.
Over here it's the gambling company that pays tax to the government. The only time a gambler gets to pay tax from his gambling win is when he win a very huge amount of money, and even before he is paid the money the tax is already subtracted from the total amount by the casino or betting company.
My country banned most major cryptocurrency casinos some time ago. I don't think it's because gambling is considered illegal, it's not, but due to their licensing, but most importantly, because they can't monitor a cryptocurrency casino nor extract taxes from the earnings. When I had asked for advice on the forum, a few users suggested not to use a VPN for access, because that would eventually get me banned. I used Cloudflare private DNS that practically hides your location and had zero issues so far.

 
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September 14, 2024, 03:58:31 AM
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When workers wanted to be paid their salaries, the company they are working for deduct the tax from the workers salary and pay it as tax to the government. Gambling site should not be different if you win more than lose.
I think that there's some kind of tax that gambling companies pay to the government in the country where they are permitted offer their services. I also think that it is applicable to both online and physical casino. There's like corporate taxes which they are taxed on their profits. There is also the value added tax too. They are a business and as long as they do their business in the country they are by law required to pay taxes.
When the country legalizes gambling, of course there is a physical casino found in the country and with online casinos there is definitely there, so I think that the existence of a physical casino stands in a country that allows it, there must be a tax that must be owned by physical casinos paying to the government. And in my opinion not only casinos, all companies that are officially established in his upholders must have to pay taxes to the government.

I agreed with you with physical or online casinos, it seems that they pay taxes, but when one country holds an online casino and that accesses it not only in their country, I don't think it Which country are you from.

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September 14, 2024, 06:03:52 AM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.

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September 14, 2024, 07:21:29 AM
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?
When workers wanted to be paid their salaries, the company they are working for deduct the tax from the workers salary and pay it as tax to the government. Gambling site should not be different if you win more than lose.

What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
If gambling is illegal in a country, no citizens that will let the government know that they are gambling. Which means they are paying no tax.
I was thinking the country that pays tax for gambling deducts amount whenever it's reflected to their account, so whether the casino or betting site deducted it wouldn't be the same because some of the country like US if not mistakenly deducted their tax from whatever's amount that gets the account. So if casino deducted and such Gambler sent his winning to their local account won't the said government tax them for their income winning to their bank account? To me I think this is possible excited there is a kind of control system which monitors everyone's activities online and the site they are associating themselves with to know if is a gambling site or not.

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September 14, 2024, 07:32:41 AM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.
The most challenging part is that Curacao is the hobs of easy licensing for cryptocurrency casinos and the reason may not be far from Curacao not paying attention to the operation of some of the bad actors in the gambling market, e.g 1xbit is a known casino and operating with a Curacao license and with all the cases against them, their license have not been withdrawn yet and that makes no sense to many other countries and that is why their don't regards Curacao license casinos to be legally operated even with the license.


But in countries where gambling is not restricted, most gamblers have no problem from receiving funds from gambling platform at least I have not hard anyone although the few gambling sites that I have withdraw fiat on directly into my bank account are mostly licensed within my region, but all the online cryptocurrency casino have no direct bank withdrawal unless if I have not seen yet but even with that, no one run into problem just by withdrawing from gambling sites.
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September 14, 2024, 08:08:37 AM
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But in countries where gambling is not restricted, most gamblers have no problem from receiving funds from gambling platform at least I have not hard anyone although the few gambling sites that I have withdraw fiat on directly into my bank account are mostly licensed within my region, but all the online cryptocurrency casino have no direct bank withdrawal unless if I have not seen yet but even with that, no one run into problem just by withdrawing from gambling sites.
In my country gambling is prohibited, therefore many people gamble online and in the stage of disbursing their winnings, everything is fine without any problems, but some do have problems when they win, whether their account is locked or something else, maybe because they visit a fraudulent online casino. I myself have never experienced a withdrawal problem in any casino and I am lucky in this case because I have never experienced anything bad like a locked account or an unpaid withdrawal. Whether it is true or not, I myself do not know that there are online casinos out there that do not have direct bank withdrawals, I think all online casinos are the same with the withdrawal problem being directed directly to our own bank account.

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September 14, 2024, 08:10:48 AM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.
It is true that Curacao license may be worthless in countries with strict gambling law but Curacao license is still one of the best licenses that I have known because obtaining the license still make many countries to allow you to provide gambling products and services to their people.

In some counties, if you do not obtain a license directly from the country, you will not be able to provide gambling products and services to the people of such country. That is where Curacao license is useless. Also in countries that ban gambling. So we can not say it is useless in that way.

What that I like that used posted is that the government or regulators are not looking after those with small winnings. They prefer those with huge winnings. I gamble small and win or lose small amount of money. I do not also have a problem with that.

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September 14, 2024, 08:11:18 AM
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So I have a question about regulations.

Many people think when the casinos have Curacao, Antillephone, Anjouangaming etc licenses are legal. Most casinos do restrict some jurisdictions, mainly for US and EU, if people didn't find their countries are on the list, they think it's safe to play.

But, the casinos have stated something like "it's the player that responsible if gambling is legal in their countries", "it's the player that responsible to check the legality of online gambling in their countries", and "it's the player that responsible to pay gambling tax to the government".
The casinos are actually right in this statement because it is the duty of the player to check the legality of online casino in his country. The casinos understand the laws of their countries better and should know what constitutes a violation more than the casinos. As we know, it will be practically difficult for the casinos to have offices and registrations in the various countries where their users comes from. They are therefore bound to operate with the laws of the countries of their registration and anyone willing to use them just have to comply. On the aspect of taxation, it is the gambler that should declare their taxes in accordance with their respective laws as responsible citizens.











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September 14, 2024, 08:13:43 AM
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The thread is interesting because from Europe if you try to access a licensed casino in Curaçao several things can happen to you. Sometimes your country blocks the site. Other times you get a warning from the site saying that you can't play from that country. And other times nothing appears, not even in the ToS, and you can access, but that little note that the OP says is to be safe because those casinos cannot accept players from regulated Europe, even if they forgot to put it in the ToS.

Curiously, from what I have seen in the forum in some cases they let you access and only after winning big and requesting a cashout is when they start to look from where you play and accuse you of breaking the ToS, when they have been turning a blind eye.

I have said so in other threads. We come from a Wild West in cryptocurrency casinos and we are heading more and more towards civilization. I believe that over time, just as KYC will be imposed, these sites will be blocked or they will be the ones that will not allow access, but I think there are some years of operating in legal limbo.

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September 14, 2024, 08:18:40 AM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.

Gambling taxes varies in different countries, but places like Irish, gamblers do not pay taxes for winning, instead the bookies pay 1% taxes for any game wagered in their casino, While the Kenyan government charge bookies 7.3% tax for all winnings they record in the casino. They're countries like Germany with high rate (about 90%) of taxes placed on gamblers, but it's only applicable to gamblers who play to earn a living. If you have other sources of income, nobody would charge a dime from your gambling wins.

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September 14, 2024, 08:37:39 AM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.

Gambling taxes varies in different countries, but places like Irish, gamblers do not pay taxes for winning, instead the bookies pay 1% taxes for any game wagered in their casino, While the Kenyan government charge bookies 7.3% tax for all winnings they record in the casino. They're countries like Germany with high rate (about 90%) of taxes placed on gamblers, but it's only applicable to gamblers who play to earn a living. If you have other sources of income, nobody would charge a dime from your gambling wins.
Gambling tax is not also charged in Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Only the gambling sites that offer the gambling services are charged. This is how gambling should be.

What I saw about gambling tax in Germany is that the tax is 5.3%. But if there is anyway they are charging people 90%, illegal gambling will be very common in the country.

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I've check if Hong Kong and Portugal are allow online gambling, but it's only for casinos that obtain license or authorized by the government.

Online gambling is legal and regulated in Portugal under the Gambling Regulation and Online Gambling Act of 2015. Operators must obtain a license from the SRIJ to offer online gambling services to Portuguese residents. The regulation covers various forms of online gambling, including online casinos, poker, and sports betting.

It means Hong Kong and Portugal treat online casinos with Curacao, Antillephone, and Anjouangaming licenses are illegal casinos. CMIIW.

I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?

What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?

Oh, that's a little concerning because I live in a jurisdiction not so different from Portugal, so I should double-check the implications of gambling in casinos with this kind of licenses, just in case.

Taxes have not been a real problem so far, because in my country we only have to declare gains over a certain amount, and my annual balance has always been negative because I gamble little and mainly for fun and research, not for profit. That's why, answering to your question, in my case I have never had legal problems. But, again, that's something I'll have to keep in mind in the future.

Anyway, I think that the rule you mentioned is more aimed at casino owners than players: it seems that they must meet a series of requirements to offer their services, but nothing is said about residents' ability to play wherever they want.

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September 14, 2024, 01:09:35 PM
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A Curacao license is worthless in almost any country that has strict gambling laws. Some countries go as far as blocking access to casinos that are not licensed to operate in their location. Tax rules are extremely complicated. I’ve never felt the need to declare my winning to an authority and have not heard of anyone having problems because of this. I would only worry about it if I was a whale because I’m sure they won’t bother to investigate every single case where a person wins a small amount in an offshore casino.

Gambling taxes varies in different countries, but places like Irish, gamblers do not pay taxes for winning, instead the bookies pay 1% taxes for any game wagered in their casino, While the Kenyan government charge bookies 7.3% tax for all winnings they record in the casino. They're countries like Germany with high rate (about 90%) of taxes placed on gamblers, but it's only applicable to gamblers who play to earn a living. If you have other sources of income, nobody would charge a dime from your gambling wins.
Gambling tax is not also charged in Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Only the gambling sites that offer the gambling services are charged. This is how gambling should be.

What I saw about gambling tax in Germany is that the tax is 5.3%. But if there is anyway they are charging people 90%, illegal gambling will be very common in the country.

Having 90% tax rate is discouraging, and it'll be bad business for both gamblers and casinos. I had to re-read the article and the casinos are the ones who pay 90% of their gross gaming revenue in tax not players. But, private casinos also have a different tax they pay to the Government of Germany. In summary, it's still valid to assume that players are only taxed if they depend on gambling as a source of income.

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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
Fortunately 99% of online casinos operating in my country are illegal, but legal, meaning: only certain authorities/taxes control them, all casinos that can be accessed in my country are not free from taxes, fortunately the tax is only applied to ring casinos only, not on the users, players are free to withdraw money/crypto anytime and anywhere, they only pay withdrawal fees, nothing else.

I use three online crypto casinos that operate here, in fact the casinos are illegal, but can be accessed, in terms of taxation there is none, the authorities impose taxes only on the casinos, that is our advantage in using ring casinos.

Nevertheless, if the police find out we are playing at a crypto casino they will arrest us, for that in my country 'free and secret' gambling is currently what we are doing.

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Do you ever had legal problem due to playing on Curacao licenses online casinos? No as long as I sign up in gambling word heck I only register in casino that accept crypto and I never register to gambling that doesn't accept crypto and I never bet with huge amount only couple of dollar that is why I never had a legal problem with casino

 
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Since casino is not available in my country so i don't want to get involved in it. In my country, online gambling is played secretly which is why there is no license issue. I bet on all gambling sites that deal with crypto currency. On the other hand I'm not involved in direct transfers to cash and i have no problem with the law requiring exchanges to withdraw before selling for fiat. Gambling sites in my country can be closed at any time and there is nothing we can do by law.

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Never had.
I think we are there yet where gambling sites that are licensed from other countries will get banned that easily or players will have legal problems due to gambling sites created or licensed from another country like Curacao.
But I heard that the government is already making that move because they want the local online gambling sites to be used more so they will be the ones who will do the job for them.
Perhaps it's because they are paying way too much from the taxes and it must also be equaled by banning international gambling sites.

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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?

What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?

I think it is only "necessary" to do if you are a citizen who obeys all the rules in your country, but I think the majority of us are all the same where more of the people who do not obey taxes, most of them will think that it is not too important even though basically the government has implemented regulations that require everyone to pay taxes. And most gamblers do not like losing money, meaning when they succeed in getting money then I think they will tend to prefer to pocket all the winnings themselves without wanting to share with others including taxes, but the story would be different if the casino deducted a small portion of the winnings for taxes when a gambler makes a withdrawal.
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?

What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?

I think it is only "necessary" to do if you are a citizen who obeys all the rules in your country, but I think the majority of us are all the same where more of the people who do not obey taxes, most of them will think that it is not too important even though basically the government has implemented regulations that require everyone to pay taxes. And most gamblers do not like losing money, meaning when they succeed in getting money then I think they will tend to prefer to pocket all the winnings themselves without wanting to share with others including taxes, but the story would be different if the casino deducted a small portion of the winnings for taxes when a gambler makes a withdrawal.
Some people are indeed reluctant to pay taxes because of laziness maybe or winning already considers it not too important, maybe only a few people are really obedient in paying taxes, not to mention young people now even though they have become young entrepreneurs but arguably only a few of them obey the rules that the government has required for the community. For gamblers, of course, all of them are not happy and do not want to experience losing money, but losing money in terms of gambling is absolutely certain to happen, so therefore when going to do gambling, you should be prepared to lose money.
I agree with what you said, when someone does online gambling and manages to get a win then surely they will only pocket the winnings themselves and to fulfill their own desires, it is unlikely that players are reluctant to share because I myself feel that even though sometimes I give some of the winnings to my friends it's just to share.

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September 15, 2024, 08:53:46 AM
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?
When workers wanted to be paid their salaries, the company they are working for deduct the tax from the workers salary and pay it as tax to the government. Gambling site should not be different if you win more than lose.

What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
If gambling is illegal in a country, no citizens that will let the government know that they are gambling. Which means they are paying no tax.
I was thinking the country that pays tax for gambling deducts amount whenever it's reflected to their account, so whether the casino or betting site deducted it wouldn't be the same because some of the country like US if not mistakenly deducted their tax from whatever's amount that gets the account. So if casino deducted and such Gambler sent his winning to their local account won't the said government tax them for their income winning to their bank account? To me I think this is possible excited there is a kind of control system which monitors everyone's activities online and the site they are associating themselves with to know if is a gambling site or not.

If you are using your local banks and they see some suspicious transactions with the crypto I guess that's the time they will require you another later for checking the BIR with your revenue to see if you are doing a legal transactions, because some of the banks doesn't allowed came from gambling casino with your withdrawal, most of the time that's the case here in my country and now if they check they require you to increase your current taxes it depends on them, other people do something like charity just to lessen their taxes.

 
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