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So I have a question about regulations. Many people think when the casinos have Curacao, Antillephone, Anjouangaming etc licenses are legal. Most casinos do restrict some jurisdictions, mainly for US and EU, if people didn't find their countries are on the list, they think it's safe to play. But, the casinos have stated something like "it's the player that responsible if gambling is legal in their countries", "it's the player that responsible to check the legality of online gambling in their countries", and "it's the player that responsible to pay gambling tax to the government". I've check if Hong Kong and Portugal are allow online gambling, but it's only for casinos that obtain license or authorized by the government. In Hong Kong, betting with gambling websites registered overseas would not breach the law? ]
Answer: Even if gambling websites are registered overseas, as they are not licensed nor exempted in Hong Kong, betting with such websites would breach the law. Online gambling is legal and regulated in Portugal under the Gambling Regulation and Online Gambling Act of 2015. Operators must obtain a license from the SRIJ to offer online gambling services to Portuguese residents. The regulation covers various forms of online gambling, including online casinos, poker, and sports betting. It means Hong Kong and Portugal treat online casinos with Curacao, Antillephone, and Anjouangaming licenses are illegal casinos. CMIIW. I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that? What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
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September 13, 2024, 09:16:35 AM |
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?
When workers wanted to be paid their salaries, the company they are working for deduct the tax from the workers salary and pay it as tax to the government. Gambling site should not be different if you win more than lose. What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
If gambling is illegal in a country, no citizens that will let the government know that they are gambling. Which means they are paying no tax.
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September 13, 2024, 09:34:23 AM |
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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
I live in country that has ban on gambling in any form but so far have never had any problems with the government or legal authorities because there are no taxes and I gamble with crypto which makes it easy to make withdrawals or deposits. There are no tax reports for every withdrawal because the withdrawal will go directly into the wallet or account on the crypto exchange that I use, there are many more conveniences such as the use of P2P which can sell crypto assets from gambling winnings that have been deposited in the exchange account and the provider can directly send fiat money to enter the bank account. Moreover, countries that have complete ban on gambling also have many citizens who are gamblers, they must have their own way of dealing with all kinds of problems like in this context.
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September 13, 2024, 09:38:11 AM |
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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
I live in country that has ban on gambling in any form but so far have never had any problems with the government or legal authorities because there are no taxes and I gamble with crypto which makes it easy to make withdrawals or deposits. There are no tax reports for every withdrawal because the withdrawal will go directly into the wallet or account on the crypto exchange that I use, there are many more conveniences such as the use of P2P which can sell crypto assets from gambling winnings that have been deposited in the exchange account and the provider can directly send fiat money to enter the bank account. Moreover, countries that have complete ban on gambling also have many citizens who are gamblers, they must have their own way of dealing with all kinds of problems like in this context. Same here, I don't have any problems playing with any casino's regardless of where the license came from, and our government are so lenient I would say that we don't need to declare our gambling taxes as far as I know. So we might be just one of those lucky gamblers as well. It might be very complicated as well for those gambler who lives in a country like what the OP is and obviously it is going to be complicated as it could have legal problems in the future.
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September 13, 2024, 09:41:02 AM |
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When I am playing online using crypto I tend to use casinos that are not going to give me hard time. I only have a selective platforms for me and have been gambling with them from years. I don't care if they have a license or not, never thought to check it at all too. The relationship did not build in a short span of time. Now you can make the guess, since I am totally anonymous so far there are no way for me to be in any legal battle.
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September 13, 2024, 09:56:10 AM |
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?
I don't know, I personally haven't declared any gambling tax(shh) but I would assume they would care more about the tax you are going to pay them instead of where you gambled. What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
I'd assume they do not have a gambling tax there, I mean, gambling is forbidden so why would they expect a gambling tax from their people and why would the people declare their gambling tax when gambling is completely forbidden wouldn't they risk themselves from fines or jail time because of breaking the law?
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Wapfika
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September 13, 2024, 10:12:20 AM |
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I think that when we cash out our winnings from online casinos, we need to declare our gambling tax. When you declare it, didn't the authority ask you which casino you played or something like that?
This is correct. Casino profit will fall under the income tax if we will be honest on pur taxes. The problem about this is the regulations on taxes especially on 3rd world country department assign for taxes collection can’t track or monitor all the income of its citizens. Authority will surely need to the full statement of you casino transactions since you will have a receipt if you cash out your chips. What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax? Can’t answer this personally but in my opinion they don’t declare taxes from gambling.
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September 13, 2024, 10:18:15 AM |
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So I have a question about regulations.
Many people think when the casinos have Curacao, Antillephone, Anjouangaming etc licenses are legal. Most casinos do restrict some jurisdictions, mainly for US and EU, if people didn't find their countries are on the list, they think it's safe to play.
But, the casinos have stated something like "it's the player that responsible if gambling is legal in their countries", "it's the player that responsible to check the legality of online gambling in their countries", and "it's the player that responsible to pay gambling tax to the government".
Before I do not understand the Curacao license, but when the casino has determined with the player who is responsible for gambling I agree with this, apart from that I feel it is impossible for players to pay taxes to the government even though it is online gambling, players who do gambling Online in my opinion they visit the platform just to play even when winning, players can attract all their wins without any deductions such as tax because I think the tax that must be paid to the government is more the responsibility of the casino itself. In addition, if the player who has to pay for online casino gambling taxes, I think it makes players uncomfortable when gambling diplatforms, and I have never found an online casino that makes us have to pay my own taxes I have never experienced it during online gambling.
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September 13, 2024, 10:33:38 AM |
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Don't people usually do KYC for that? And if the casino discovers that the player is from a country they deem illegal (whether it's by them or by the country), pretty sure they just outright deny/ban the user themselves so I don't think such situations would normally happen. Now if it actually does happen, I don't think they'd even try to declare their taxes lol. I don't think most people do so even! And even if they do, I don't think they'd let them know it was from a banned casino in the first place. If they didn't even know how to do that they would've probably been stopped already by geo blocking or something imo.
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September 13, 2024, 10:38:10 AM |
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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
Gambling is more illegal in some countries than it is in others. In some countries, there are laws against gambling, but these laws are not being taken seriously by the government until maybe there is a reason to, and gamblers who gamble there may still get away with it. People who gamble there do not care about checking licenses or the legality of gambling in their country because there has never been news of a gambler who faced legal action from the government. In some other countries, where they have same gambling laws that are taken more seriously, a gambler may face serious legal problems with the government if they are caught gambling. People who still gamble in such places are extremely careful with gambling and will not declare tax to the government.
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September 13, 2024, 10:54:11 AM |
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I have not got caught up in any legal battle due to casino usage before even though not all casinos that I play on have license in my jurisdictions, but then gambling is not entirely illegal but most online fiat casino my country are all locally license which Indicate gambling friendliness from the government, but casino such as online cryptocurrency casino may not have license in my state but then since I am not directly involving the transfer to cash, and have to withdraw to exchange before selling for the Fiat I have no problem with the laws.
Also I have, It noticed anyone from my locality getting a ban because of their gambling usage which points also to how safe it is using online gambling sites in my country.
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September 13, 2024, 11:08:00 AM |
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There are no clear rules when it comes to gambling in our country, or maybe they're just not enforced. Personally, I don’t have any issues with the gambling sites I play on, as long as my country isn’t on the restricted list. Technically, it would be easy for our government to track if we gamble, but since the law isn’t strictly enforced, there hasn't been any problem so far. However, if that time comes, I guess I’d have no choice but to stop gambling or just stick to fiat gambling sites that are legal in my country.
Thanks for sharing this information, OP. This is really important, especially for those in countries with strict gambling regulations. It raises awareness for people still gambling, so they know the potential consequences of their actions.
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I live in the USA where bitcoin is not considered money until you cash it out, so if I am playing in an online casino and win big I would not have to report it until I cashed it into fiat. I have paid a massive amount in taxes since getting into bitcoin, my government is insane with taxes and it doesn't seem to want to let up.
Licensed casinos usually ask for kyc once you reach a certain thresh hold, so there really is no avoiding taxes unless you are using fake info somehow. I would suggest not using fake stuff and just paying the taxes to avoid losing everything and possibly prison.
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September 13, 2024, 11:46:50 AM |
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I live in the USA where bitcoin is not considered money until you cash it out, so if I am playing in an online casino and win big I would not have to report it until I cashed it into fiat. I have paid a massive amount in taxes since getting into bitcoin, my government is insane with taxes and it doesn't seem to want to let up.
I’m curious about this, What crypto casino you are using since most of the Curacao license casino doesn’t allowed US citizen to play(CMIIW). I’m always restricted to play whenever I’m using US IP using VPN accidentally so I assume that most of the crypto casino doesn’t accept US citizen players. Are you using VPN or you use selected crypto casino that offer exemption to US citizen. I will be happy if you can answer me. Thanks in advance.
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September 13, 2024, 11:49:25 AM |
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I live in the USA where bitcoin is not considered money until you cash it out, so if I am playing in an online casino and win big I would not have to report it until I cashed it into fiat. I have paid a massive amount in taxes since getting into bitcoin, my government is insane with taxes and it doesn't seem to want to let up.
I’m curious about this, What crypto casino you are using since most of the Curacao license casino doesn’t allowed US citizen to play(CMIIW). I’m always restricted to play whenever I’m using US IP using VPN accidentally so I assume that most of the crypto casino doesn’t accept US citizen players. Are you using VPN or you use selected crypto casino that offer exemption to US citizen. I will be happy if you can answer me. Thanks in advance. I use gamdom.com for sportsbetting and they don't care about vpn use as far as I know. They don't do kyc to my knowledge either. If you don't have an account feel free to pm me for my affiliate code and sign up. Also use stake.us from time to time.
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September 13, 2024, 11:53:19 AM |
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In my understanding of this situation, it's all about cooperation but there is no way some countries' regulations/regulators will cooperate with some better sane countries that take regulation seriously because they are weak, this causes issues, especially due to the lack of viable communication. This is why they might disallow their countries' citizens/residents from opening an account with them.
However, it could be both ways, it might be the casino/sportsbook restricting the citizens/residents of certain countries from opening an account with them or the countries themselves. If it were to be the casino/sportsbook restricting it, my guess is that they do not want the legal trouble of such countries because they can't just avoid monies easily like that if not for an important reason(s).
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September 13, 2024, 12:14:02 PM |
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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
If gambling is not allowed in a particular country, then it is illegal and people who gamble over there must be doing it in secret and there's no way they'll declare their gambling winnings in their tax returns. TBH, in the casinos i gamble, i don't check where their license came from or if they have to also be licensed by my own government, and thus far i have not had any problems.
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September 13, 2024, 12:15:49 PM |
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What about people who live in a country where gambling is completely forbidden, how you declare your gambling tax?
I don't think if you're living in a country where gambling is illegal that you are going to declare your gambling tax, because you're putting yourself at risk by declaring it, If your country is banning gambling, they expect their people to abide by their law that they should not be involved in gambling. In the first place, they have banned gambling because they do not want their people to engage in gambling, its better not to declare it or just make it as additional income from your existing business, its not that you are lying you just want to protect yourself.
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September 13, 2024, 12:34:35 PM |
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I don't know how gamblers that lives in gambling restricted/ban countries survive it. Luckily for me I live in a country where the government for whatsoever reason has no problem against gambling and that makes me gamble with any casino without fear of being caught in middle like those that live in counties where their religion abhors gambling. Over here it's the gambling company that pays tax to the government. The only time a gambler gets to pay tax from his gambling win is when he win a very huge amount of money, and even before he is paid the money the tax is already subtracted from the total amount by the casino or betting company.
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I don't know how gamblers that lives in gambling restricted/ban countries survive it. Luckily for me I live in a country where the government for whatsoever reason has no problem against gambling and that makes me gamble with any casino without fear of being caught in middle like those that live in counties where their religion abhors gambling. Over here it's the gambling company that pays tax to the government. The only time a gambler gets to pay tax from his gambling win is when he win a very huge amount of money, and even before he is paid the money the tax is already subtracted from the total amount by the casino or betting company.
By the use of VPN most of the time. Restricted users is gambling on crypto casino through bypassing country restrictions using VPN hoping they will not be asked to do KYC. casino nowadays has way to determine if the user use VPN that will make them asked KYC to questionable user. This is the reason why Stake doesn’t allowed the use of VPN completely to avoid dealing users that hiding their IP on VPN. There’s a lot of same case in scam accusation that related to this issue.
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