China bans, Son Jun-ho, 42 others for life for gambling, match-fixing.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches, just in China, Son Jun-ho, a form former South Korean player and 43 other were banned for life for gambling and match-fixing.

Chinese football on Tuesday banned 43 people for life over alleged gambling and match-fixing, including three former China internationals and South Korean player Son Jun-ho,

The 43 were among 128 people implicated in total in a two-year probe into illegal gambling and match-fixing in the domestic game,

The Chinese Football Association (CFA) accused Son, who played for Shandong Taishan in the Chinese Super League, of participating in match-fixing and taking bribes.

China’s football governing body has itself been under scrutiny — about 10 high-ranking CFA officials have so far been brought down in corruption probes.

The government in March handed a lifetime prison sentence to Chen Xuyuan,

Source

This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?

[Oshosondy]

It is avoidable and you can reduce the chance of your bet to be of fixed matches. Go for top leagues like EPL, La Liga, Seria A, France Lique 1 and some the top leagues.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

They should also be put in jail for like 6 months would be better. But the reason they are not doing that is because they believe the name of the player has no reputation again. No club will buy the player. No salary again. So they do not consider jail to be worth it.

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?

They do not need to work with bookies before they will manipulate.

[Woodie]

The Chinese don't play around when it comes to sentencing wrongdoers 🥵, and for a country that I dont really consider as a footballing nation .this is a harsh punishment to be honest, why not go for a hefty fine and a couple of years behind bars so that when they serve they can be the ambassadors to dicourage their fellow professional footballers from this bad business practice that seems to be growing all around the world...

Am just hoping these are the big fish and not some agents being implicated.

[Cantsay]

How much could they have paid him to make him risk ruining his career? Well, he has learned his lesson and this is a life time lesson as he will no longer be able to play for any team again.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

More punishment should be added to it - because rather than play for passion they turn to bribery and made so many gamblers lose their money, there are matches that could have made some gamblers more money that these fixed matches cheated spoilt for them.

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?

Nah! I don’t think they work with them - I believe it is those predictions sites that usually work with them, imagine charging a high fee for your predictions- you definitely will have to go extra mile to satisfy those paying the fees so that you can get more from them thus the reason why they engage in fixed matches.

[Charles-Tim]

this is a harsh punishment to be honest

How? Read this: https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/betting-rules

The person that is guilty of fixing match can be suspended or banned from playing. There are some that may later be reconsidered if taken to Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). Example: https://soccernet.ng/2024/08/samson-siasia-when-will-fifas-ban-be-lifted-on-former-super-eagles-star-with-two-olympic-games-medals.html/amp

[Text]

In my opinion, the punishment should go beyond just a lifetime ban. Corruption in sports affects millions of fans and bettors worldwide who trust the outcomes to be fair. Players who take part in these activities should face criminal charges as well, depending on the severity of their involvement.

As for the connection with casinos, it’s quite possible that some of these players work with gambling establishments or criminal networks behind the scenes. It’s not just an individual decision, it often involves organized groups that profit from rigged outcomes. The whole system, from players to gambling institutions, should be investigated and held accountable to protect the integrity of the game.

[swogerino]

We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches, just in China, Son Jun-ho, a form former South Korean player and 43 other were banned for life for gambling and match-fixing.

Chinese football on Tuesday banned 43 people for life over alleged gambling and match-fixing, including three former China internationals and South Korean player Son Jun-ho,

The 43 were among 128 people implicated in total in a two-year probe into illegal gambling and match-fixing in the domestic game,

The Chinese Football Association (CFA) accused Son, who played for Shandong Taishan in the Chinese Super League, of participating in match-fixing and taking bribes.

China’s football governing body has itself been under scrutiny — about 10 high-ranking CFA officials have so far been brought down in corruption probes.

The government in March handed a lifetime prison sentence to Chen Xuyuan,

Source

This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?

When I used to work in this casino/lotto club in some years just after the 2000-s we all suspected that match fixing were massive in China and that website of that time SBOBET don't know if it exists yet used to accept games from less, really less known leagues like 8th division of Norway or Denmark for betting huge amounts, sometimes they accepted 2nd or 3rd leagues from Balkan countries and in this lotto club where I worked these leagues at that time were totally excluded and banned to bet on these. So I am not surprised from China being able to track down some of such activities and this is the way it should be, they should make some examples by clearly punishing really heavy the people who do this.

I also think that the fixing back then happened from presidents of soccer clubs playing each other team and they decided the correct result, number of goals and sometimes even exact number of corners so the odds used to become huge, this I doubt can be cleared 100% but most other countries should start doing what China just did to these match fixing shitheads.

[Kelward]

It is avoidable and you can reduce the chance of your bet to be of fixed matches. Go for top leagues like EPL, La Liga, Seria A, France Lique 1 and some the top leagues.

It is true, the chances of match fixing in top leagues like the ones you mentioned should be next to impossible because the clubs and players are very rich. I doubt that anybody that is personally involved in these leagues will risk their reputations and the kind of money that they earn to be involved in match fixing. But I won't be surprised about match fixing scandals in lower and unpopular leagues because you can't compare them in anyway with these top reputable leagues. I'm not very familiar with the Chinese football league and I guess that match fixing is possible there and in any other regular leagues. China, is a no nonsense country and I'm not surprised to hear about their harsh punishment on the offenders

[Agbamoni]

It is avoidable and you can reduce the chance of your bet to be of fixed matches. Go for top leagues like EPL, La Liga, Seria A, France Lique 1 and some the top leagues.

It is true, the chances of match fixing in top leagues like the ones you mentioned should be next to impossible because the clubs and players are very rich. I doubt that anybody that is personally involved in these leagues will risk their reputations and the kind of money that they earn to be involved in match fixing. But I won't be surprised about match fixing scandals in lower and unpopular leagues because you can't compare them in anyway with these top reputable leagues. I'm not very familiar with the Chinese football league and I guess that match fixing is possible there and in any other regular leagues. China, is a no nonsense country and I'm not surprised to hear about their harsh punishment on the offenders

I don't know how frequently people watch the Chinese leagues and other leagues that are not too popular. But if I must say I understand and agree that match-fixing can happen in those leagues. Their officials are not so strict like the Premier League and other top leagues in football. And any player who has decided to be part of those who are interested in fixing a match even then does not value their football career. Such players are not allowed to support their country in international games.

Also, I can agree with you that is nearly impossible for players in the Premier League, La Liga, UCL Serie, and a few more leagues will agree to be involved in match-fixing. Even referees and coaches are not exempted from this act. It has huge consequences in their career, so they don't think of doing that at all.

[bitLeap]

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?

The government cannot prohibit someone from stopping gambling, let alone banning them for life, that is beyond their control and it is not their right to determine someone's decision to gamble. I know this is about a football player and the punishment of not playing football for life is enough to destroy him. Policy of banning football and banning gambling for life seems excessive.
But because this is China, they can implement whatever rules they want so that their citizens obey and can be controlled. China is a country with a completely controlled system, not only gambling but also sports, life and how to determine beliefs are not free from the control of the government.

[Charles-Tim]

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?

It would be good if you edit it from casino to bookies, bookmakers or sport betting sites. Some people do make this mistake. Casinos are for games like Roulettes, Blackjack, Baccarat, Dice, Slots et cetera. Bookies are for Sports, including animal spots, also including other bets.

As for the connection with casinos, it’s quite possible that some of these players work with gambling establishments or criminal networks behind the scenes. It’s not just an individual decision, it often involves organized groups that profit from rigged outcomes. The whole system, from players to gambling institutions, should be investigated and held accountable to protect the integrity of the game.

I do not want to repeat it. Read what I posted above under Dr.Bitcoin_Strange quote. Also bookies may not have any connection with it at all. They are making money without manipulation than giving unfavorable odds that will make bettors to lose more than win.

China, is a no nonsense country and I'm not surprised to hear about their harsh punishment on the offenders

There are rules and laws for players. The laws are there already and which the players would be conversant with which makes the punishment not harsh at all.

[yahoo62278]

We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches, just in China, Son Jun-ho, a form former South Korean player and 43 other were banned for life for gambling and match-fixing.

Chinese football on Tuesday banned 43 people for life over alleged gambling and match-fixing, including three former China internationals and South Korean player Son Jun-ho,

The 43 were among 128 people implicated in total in a two-year probe into illegal gambling and match-fixing in the domestic game,

The Chinese Football Association (CFA) accused Son, who played for Shandong Taishan in the Chinese Super League, of participating in match-fixing and taking bribes.

China’s football governing body has itself been under scrutiny — about 10 high-ranking CFA officials have so far been brought down in corruption probes.

The government in March handed a lifetime prison sentence to Chen Xuyuan,

Source

This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?

I would rather see long term prison sentences given to these criminals. They're not only cheating the game, but they are cheating the bettors out of a ton of money. What if someone lost a huge bet and took their life over it? Would you blame the cheaters? Would you tell people they shouldn't be gambling?

Obviously someone taking their life is an extreme situation, but you never know how big or small someone is gambling and the stress behind their situation. Long term prison sentences might stop some from cheating their profession.

[shield132]

We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches

I believe that there isn't corruption in major leagues like La Liga, Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. World Cup, Copa America, EURO, Champions League and similar ones are definitely out of question. I can't imagine why will any club accept match-fixing because they earn money by winning leagues and they also get a higher reputation, awareness, fanbase, fame and status. Everyone wants to join Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and other top clubs because of these reasons.

This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?

Does anyone make a bet on Chinese leagues and other unknown leagues? I have made an experiment myself, I made a bet on 3 matches, each of them had odd 10 and three of them were from unknown leagues. Out of 3, two match with 10 odd won the ticket but one with 10 odd failed. The lesson is, in unknown leagues, never consider that odds represent the chance of winning for each team. Unknown leagues are almost all the time rigged, by club owners, members, referees and sometimes by bookmakers.

If any player is caught in such corrupt act, they shouldn't be banned from playing forever because when you are in a club and depend on the salary, you can't stand up and go like it's nothing. You are forced to participate in this corrupt politics. I think that the club owners should be punished the most to never repeat the same. The root of the problem needs to be fixed. Players don't matter, if one gets banned, he will be replaced by another one and club owners still make lots of money with fixed matches.
In my country, club owners and referees get jail up to 20 years for match fixing.

[bryant.coleman]

I would rather see long term prison sentences given to these criminals. They're not only cheating the game, but they are cheating the bettors out of a ton of money. What if someone lost a huge bet and took their life over it? Would you blame the cheaters? Would you tell people they shouldn't be gambling?

Obviously someone taking their life is an extreme situation, but you never know how big or small someone is gambling and the stress behind their situation. Long term prison sentences might stop some from cheating their profession.

I would second that opinion. Some people think that white collar crimes are of a lesser magnitude, which is not true. For example, the thieves who stole billions of USD worth of crypto from MtGox is no less evil when compared to serial murderers such as Ted Bundy or Andrei Chikatilo. The latter killed dozens of people directly, while the former did so indirectly by stealing the life savings of their victims. Depending on the magnitude, financial crimes should be punished with lengthy prison sentences. And hardcore criminals such as Sam Bankman-Fraud should be given the capital punishment.

[dansus021]

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies should be banned the answer is yes but really how you can ban people from gambling

You might can banned one people from one casino but he can still register in other sites and can still play right?
Or he can easily use other people account

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

this is a harsh punishment to be honest, why not go for a hefty fine and a couple of years behind bars so that when they serve they can be the ambassadors to dicourage their fellow professional footballers from this bad business practice that seems to be growing all around the world...

Even this kind of punishment you speak of is also harsh but I really can not defend players that involves themselves in such kind of corrupt act, they actually deserve what ever punishment they receive. Banning them or dismissal from playing for life is actually a good punishment that others can learn from too.

I would rather see long term prison sentences given to these criminals. They're not only cheating the game, but they are cheating the bettors out of a ton of money. What if someone lost a huge bet and took their life over it? Would you blame the cheaters? Would you tell people they shouldn't be gambling?

Same opinion as that of @Woodie, it was exactly the same thought that ran through my head too but I didn't want to sound too harsh. They are supposed to be banned from playing and also sentence to prison because they must have caused some gamblers to lose a huge sum of money.

[Ultegra134]

In my opinion, the punishment should go beyond just a lifetime ban. Corruption in sports affects millions of fans and bettors worldwide who trust the outcomes to be fair. Players who take part in these activities should face criminal charges as well, depending on the severity of their involvement.

As for the connection with casinos, it’s quite possible that some of these players work with gambling establishments or criminal networks behind the scenes. It’s not just an individual decision, it often involves organized groups that profit from rigged outcomes. The whole system, from players to gambling institutions, should be investigated and held accountable to protect the integrity of the game.

I agree, a lifetime ban on gambling is such a petty punishment for who knows how much money they've acquired through match fixing. These people were professionals and were experts in what they're doing, it's certainly in cooperation with gambling institutions. Shouldn't they be sentenced to at least a few years in prison, and confiscating their money? This sentence is a slap on the wrist. On the other hand, I'm not sure how the ban is going to be implemented, although China is pretty strict regarding privacy and monitoring its citizens, perhaps they could bypass it with a VPN or proxy.

[yahoo62278]

this is a harsh punishment to be honest, why not go for a hefty fine and a couple of years behind bars so that when they serve they can be the ambassadors to dicourage their fellow professional footballers from this bad business practice that seems to be growing all around the world...

Even this kind of punishment you speak of is also harsh but I really can not defend players that involves themselves in such kind of corrupt act, they actually deserve what ever punishment they receive. Banning them or dismissal from playing for life is actually a good punishment that others can learn from too.

I would rather see long term prison sentences given to these criminals. They're not only cheating the game, but they are cheating the bettors out of a ton of money. What if someone lost a huge bet and took their life over it? Would you blame the cheaters? Would you tell people they shouldn't be gambling?

Same opinion as that of @Woodie, it was exactly the same thought that ran through my head too but I didn't want to sound too harsh. They are supposed to be banned from playing and also sentence to prison because they must have caused some gamblers to lose a huge sum of money.

Imagine if law enforcement could track the amount of money they robbed from people. Anything over $1 million stolen results in death by firing squad or something crazy. Really no reason tax payers of any country should have to pay to house these fucktards for the next xxx years. Maximum punishment might really put an end to the corruption.

[Jawhead999]

I believe that there isn't corruption in major leagues like La Liga, Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. World Cup, Copa America, EURO, Champions League and similar ones are definitely out of question. I can't imagine why will any club accept match-fixing because they earn money by winning leagues and they also get a higher reputation, awareness, fanbase, fame and status. Everyone wants to join Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and other top clubs because of these reasons.

You think so? the match Barcelona vs Chelsea in 2009 wasn't a corruption? I don't find any single correct or appropriate explanation to say there was no corruption, except you're a Barcelona's fans which make you can't judge objectively.

Even the organization itself i.e. FIFA, many people think this organization is full of corruption too.

The Chinese don't play around when it comes to sentencing wrongdoers 🥵

What's what make China great, they're harsh and objective with the punishment they gave. Harsh punishment is better than unfair punishment.

[acroman08]

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

apart from the lifetime ban, there should also be a hefty fine(or maybe more) because match-fixing can ruin the reputation of an entire league, club, team, etc... players need to realize that getting caught match-fixing is more than just not being able to play the sport on any league.

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?

maybe but I doubt it. What I do think is that they work for an organization that specialises in match-fixing. if I remember correctly there was a thread posted here in the past talking about a large match-fixing syndicate making fixed games on cricket(I can't remember the name of the thread).