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September 20, 2024, 08:55:09 AM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.
Trading without analysis is akin to going against the current. That’s why it’s crucial to learn how to analyze market trends. We often end up spending too little time on this, and it shows in our results. A common issue among traders is impatience; many don’t stop to wonder why they keep seeing the same outcomes. If we can shift this mindset, success could be just around the corner. But if we keep doing the same things, even after years, we won’t see any change.

So, how do we turn this around? We need to adopt the mindset of successful traders and correct our mistakes. Ignoring these issues only complicates things further. Let’s get it right!

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September 20, 2024, 12:35:47 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.
You will not be successful in trading if this continues to happen, it allows you to experience greater losses.
First, market movements cannot be fought and most importantly you must have knowledge first, not just doing something without any signal, especially if you fight the influence, of course it is a big mistake.
To be successful in trading you must have knowledge, that is the most important thing and you must have your own confidence after doing some research for the price movements that will occur regardless of whether it will miss or not.

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September 20, 2024, 05:36:49 PM
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Trading without analysis is akin to going against the current. That’s why it’s crucial to learn how to analyze market trends. We often end up spending too little time on this, and it shows in our results. A common issue among traders is impatience; many don’t stop to wonder why they keep seeing the same outcomes. If we can shift this mindset, success could be just around the corner. But if we keep doing the same things, even after years, we won’t see any change.

So, how do we turn this around? We need to adopt the mindset of successful traders and correct our mistakes. Ignoring these issues only complicates things further. Let’s get it right!
I feel like it's definitely just throwing money at a burning fire, unless you are a drug lord in Colombia then I would suggest that you shouldn't do that. There is really no reason to not do market research and doing technical analysis and we should definitely try our best to get the best results we can by checking every data that we can check about these. That would make it a lot better and give us a good return as well. I know that it's going to be hard but it's not going to be impossible so we should be having easy time with these.

I agree that fixing our mistakes and learning from them and becoming better is very important and can get us a good result without much issues. This should be the most important part because it's definitely not an easy thing to accept but if we can do that then we are going to get a good result. I can see so many people, even millions, who do not do any of this and that is not a good thing and we should be correcting those.

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September 20, 2024, 05:59:31 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

I think it is natural that most traders experience the same scenario as you, especially when they are still in the beginner phase trading with little knowledge, and in the scenario I am sure that one of the reasons you swim against the current is because you feel that it is time for the market to reverse, I have also been fooled by this situation when the price is in the resistance or support area which makes me end up with a loss.

Therefore, for a beginner trader, I think it is more advisable for them to trade using the method of following the price flow if they do not have many strategies, you can measure the previous resistance and support points using horizontal lines or trend lines that have been provided by the trading platform you are using and when the current price is in the middle between support and resistance then I would say that it is an area that is still safe to follow the flow.
And if you do prefer to trade against the current, then the only way is that you have to learn about scalping techniques, never trade without knowledge.
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September 20, 2024, 06:51:21 PM
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Seems like you are not doing well in reading the price action of the market, so I'll say better to get some more information about reading the price action of the market, another you can work on to get efficient results is the market psychology you can watch the tutorials or read some good books which are preferred in psychology understanding. You can also work on emotional control, by following some strict disciplined routine it will also help you with your current problem.

Tip of the day as always be fearful when everyone is greedy and be greedy when everyone is fearful.

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September 20, 2024, 06:57:06 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.
This is a normal experience for every trader in the market there's no a particular point where they officially assigned the market to take a reverse, look out for reversal patterns in this case , also you should avoid over trading, to know when and how many times that you should trade in a day if you are a day trader, don't be move to trade every opportunity that presents in the market, most profitable traders I know don't trade often. Always be patient with your set ups to play out before entering any trade.

 
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September 20, 2024, 09:54:52 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals.
Mhan, I'm startled by how much risk y'all take, without proper mentorship and guidance by a professional... Have you ever heard of the coined word TECHNICAL ANALYSIS before? That's exactly what you didn't do.

I believe if you're scalping with a properly analyzed chart, though you won't see what the future holds, but with your fundamentals and previous historical records, you can decide on the best possible outcome and also, if it'll break your support or resistance.

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Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.
You also need to control your emotions sometimes as well... If you're losing too much, close and leave without looking back. You always need to relax your mind until you're fit again.

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September 21, 2024, 12:26:43 AM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

It seems you’ve listened to a motivational speech about trading and looking for that one big win that will make you to have confidence in your trading from that point. The truth of the matter is that you can’t just be feeling the market, you’ve to be sure that it’ll go to that direction before you enter the trade. The only way you can achieve that is by having a strategy that’s works best for you. If your strategy is been respected often, take that trade as you never can tell which one can give the big win. Market is not about thoughts, stop thinking it’ll go your  direction just because you wish for it to go or that direction is what will give you a win, learn the strategy and when it works, apply it to all of your trades.

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To be successful in trading you must have knowledge, that is the most important thing and you must have your own confidence after doing some research for the price movements that will occur regardless of whether it will miss or not.

With the right knowledge you wouldn't want to trade against the market, trading against the market is wrong and it'll make you to lose your money. The market will most likely win you as It's only a few people that can trade against the market and get it correctly because they had insider information or were just lucky. You have to follow the trend of the market for you you make profits. Succeeding as a trader requires you to know the things you can do and the things you ought not to do as a trader.

You need confidence as a trader because you have to believe in the analysis that you have carried out about the market at all times but you should know the difference between having confidence and being ignorant. For all the information that come across your table, knowing when to use them and ignore them is important and better you trade according to trend of the market than against.

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September 22, 2024, 03:24:03 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

It seems you’ve listened to a motivational speech about trading and looking for that one big win that will make you to have confidence in your trading from that point. The truth of the matter is that you can’t just be feeling the market, you’ve to be sure that it’ll go to that direction before you enter the trade. The only way you can achieve that is by having a strategy that’s works best for you. If your strategy is been respected often, take that trade as you never can tell which one can give the big win. Market is not about thoughts, stop thinking it’ll go your  direction just because you wish for it to go or that direction is what will give you a win, learn the strategy and when it works, apply it to all of your trades.

If we only listen to the motivation and then decide to enter the market and make a trade, then this will be very risky and true as you have said in trading, of course we must have a strategy before deciding to enter the market to trade, because without a strategy and only relying on our thinking, of course this will lose the capital that we trade, therefore it is very important for anyone who will do it. trading to be able to prepare themselves both in terms of the funds they will trade and the strategies they will use in trading, because if we do not understand trading well and only rely on the thoughts and motivation we get from others, of course we will make mistakes when trading.
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September 22, 2024, 04:00:43 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

It seems you’ve listened to a motivational speech about trading and looking for that one big win that will make you to have confidence in your trading from that point. The truth of the matter is that you can’t just be feeling the market, you’ve to be sure that it’ll go to that direction before you enter the trade. The only way you can achieve that is by having a strategy that’s works best for you. If your strategy is been respected often, take that trade as you never can tell which one can give the big win. Market is not about thoughts, stop thinking it’ll go your  direction just because you wish for it to go or that direction is what will give you a win, learn the strategy and when it works, apply it to all of your trades.

If we only listen to the motivation and then decide to enter the market and make a trade, then this will be very risky and true as you have said in trading, of course we must have a strategy before deciding to enter the market to trade, because without a strategy and only relying on our thinking, of course this will lose the capital that we trade, therefore it is very important for anyone who will do it. trading to be able to prepare themselves both in terms of the funds they will trade and the strategies they will use in trading, because if we do not understand trading well and only rely on the thoughts and motivation we get from others, of course we will make mistakes when trading.
I think the OP's problem is not because of the strategy that is not mastered. he is not fully ready for trading, not ready for market work. there are also cases of novice traders who profit on their first trade, even without good knowledge of trading. maybe we can call it luck. but in the case of OP, he is not ready for trading.
mistakes in trading are inevitable, it's just that we try as much as possible to minimize the risk of mistakes. now OP makes a mistake that he is aware of, of course he has gained experience. now his job is to prepare everything better again. trading is not just about buying and selling, trading requires planning.

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September 22, 2024, 07:42:51 PM
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

It seems you’ve listened to a motivational speech about trading and looking for that one big win that will make you to have confidence in your trading from that point. The truth of the matter is that you can’t just be feeling the market, you’ve to be sure that it’ll go to that direction before you enter the trade. The only way you can achieve that is by having a strategy that’s works best for you. If your strategy is been respected often, take that trade as you never can tell which one can give the big win. Market is not about thoughts, stop thinking it’ll go your  direction just because you wish for it to go or that direction is what will give you a win, learn the strategy and when it works, apply it to all of your trades.

I think he is trading with a fairly panic soul, there is no strategy at all with what he told me, he still trades with his intuition not from the strategy or analysis made before trading, and if I look further at the character of trading like this under 4 hours, I am quite sure of it, because with a short time frame the trend line will be far more fluctuating and there will be little time to analyze and can only rely on emotions and feelings to take positions, I see him hesitating a lot in making decisions and when he does he loses.

I agree that it is better to apply a strategy in trading, at least 1 strategy but you master it than to have many ways but only know without being able to recognize the strategy.
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

With what happened to you, I don't think trading is a good scenario to run unless you learn to expand your trading skills first.
There are other ways for you to continue collecting bitcoins and maybe you need to find information about DCA because it is impossible to be comfortable when you end up suffering continuous losses.
Trading is indeed not easy to do because it requires skills and mental readiness and most people come to trading only because of the problem of wanting to get quick money, even though the trading skills they have do not support it at all.

If this is the condition you are experiencing, it is better to use other ways to collect bitcoins and DCA is one way that can be practiced so that the assets you have can increase slowly, compared to trading but always getting losses.
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

It's normal, all you need to do is hold back for 4 hours after you sell and make a profit when the price goes up. Indeed, it looks like it has gone down several levels if we look at the graph but that is just a lure for traders who have bought a lot at the beginning with large capital and after that they are ready to throw it back deeper.

If it's been 4 hours, the rhythm is usually not fluctuating anymore where those who put bits sell and buy the difference is only 1 or 2 digit that are different. Why do I say this? I have felt it and have done it besides reading issues or news that lead to the perception of the main coin price, namely BTC.
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Sometimes I find myself trading against the market, swimming against the tide!
This happens occasionally. When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals. Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Please give me advise how can solve this.

With what happened to you, I don't think trading is a good scenario to run unless you learn to expand your trading skills first.
There are other ways for you to continue collecting bitcoins and maybe you need to find information about DCA because it is impossible to be comfortable when you end up suffering continuous losses.
Trading is indeed not easy to do because it requires skills and mental readiness and most people come to trading only because of the problem of wanting to get quick money, even though the trading skills they have do not support it at all.

If this is the condition you are experiencing, it is better to use other ways to collect bitcoins and DCA is one way that can be practiced so that the assets you have can increase slowly, compared to trading but always getting losses.

I totally agree.
Trading is not for everyone. Investment is not for everyone too, but it's easier to navigate and you would be pleasantly surprised what the DCA method can do for you if you apply it right. Responsibly.
That way, you will profit in the long-run, without much nerves and the market shaking from news/economics / other stuff.

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When the market reaches a significant level in our favor, I feel that it's time for it to reverse and go down—even without any specific signals.

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Conversely, when the market keeps declining, and I anticipate further drops, I still can't resist opening a long position. It's not a regular occurrence, but when it does happen, I end up suffering losses.

Both of these can be prevented :
by having extra asset at hand for the first one and extra fiat at hand for the second one.

But this is tricky and it is tough in the beginning you might feel lost at the sea of numbers and charts. But as you get the feel of the market, it starts becoming second nature to you.

Your target should be to keep buying when the market is dropping till you spend you allotted budget. How much? This will vary, but you will be able to estimate a budget depending on your own leverage.

 
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I totally agree.
Trading is not for everyone. Investment is not for everyone too, but it's easier to navigate and you would be pleasantly surprised what the DCA method can do for you if you apply it right. Responsibly.
That way, you will profit in the long-run, without much nerves and the market shaking from news/economics / other stuff.

Although you agree I also want to say that trading can be learned and everyone will definitely get much better knowledge when studied seriously.
The way is to create a demo account and if you want to get involved in trading, try to use a small capital first while learning to develop your trading skills.
But if you don't want to get into a lot of trouble, just invest in a much more responsible way.
Use the DCA strategy in collecting so that slowly we will collect more bitcoins.

Remember, risks need to be risked if you want to get financial freedom but it must be accompanied by knowledge.
Most people risk without knowledge so that what happens is a loss.
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I totally agree.
Trading is not for everyone. Investment is not for everyone too, but it's easier to navigate and you would be pleasantly surprised what the DCA method can do for you if you apply it right. Responsibly.
That way, you will profit in the long-run, without much nerves and the market shaking from news/economics / other stuff.

Although you agree I also want to say that trading can be learned and everyone will definitely get much better knowledge when studied seriously.
The way is to create a demo account and if you want to get involved in trading, try to use a small capital first while learning to develop your trading skills.
But if you don't want to get into a lot of trouble, just invest in a much more responsible way.
Use the DCA strategy in collecting so that slowly we will collect more bitcoins.

Remember, risks need to be risked if you want to get financial freedom but it must be accompanied by knowledge.
Most people risk without knowledge so that what happens is a loss.

Op has gained experience in trading that may make him suffer. but that is not the problem, right? there is something that can be fixed from the mistakes made. and if successful then Op may become better in planning trades.

I also experienced similar problems at the beginning of my trading. even with a mentor who guides us, sometimes when we try to trade on our own, we get some problems we cannot overcome.
Op, learn more about trading. you know your missteps, and you have to fix them in the future.

Not everyone will be interested in investment. those who can compare it and choose to invest may get comfort there. while the interest and curiosity of trading, give a challenge for beginners to learn more.

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...Please give me advise how can solve this.

You should definitely use a stop loss, and in this case your losses will be limited when the price moves in the opposite direction to your expectations. In addition, do not use a large percentage of the deposit to open a deal and do not use high leverage.

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You can choose stablecoins or check more risky altcoins. I choose to stake USDT and WATER (Waterfal Network https://waterfall.network/use-waterfall/stake-water) who gives 125% APR

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