Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?

[Hirose UK]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

It shouldn't be an abuse if you use the bonus that a casino gives to you, afterall they give it to their gambling customers to entice them to gamble more. What you have to understand is that casinos don't like lucky customers. It's ok if you're losing your money to them but the moment you start being lucky or leveraging on the benefits that is given to you they'll not be too happy. Perhaps abuse clause might be in their terms and conditions, if it's not then it's not fair to tag it as an "abused". I guess you have to make adjustments and use their bonuses as it suits them.

Yes, that could be pretty logical reason, casinos give bonuses to customers to be able to provide interest and curiosity so that customers can play more often and deposit money, but on the other hand, casinos actually won't let their customers make certain amount of money from each bonus given.
It just that this is the first time I heard of casino account that is restricted from bonuses just because it wins more often and makes profit from the bonuses given, but it also quite inappropriate if all these restrictions are based on reasons based on bonus abuse.
If bonus abuse is done especially with more than one account, then it is no longer restriction on bonuses because the casino can freeze the account, it quite surprising that something like this happens.

[bitbollo]

all these operations are carried out according to their regulations or ToS.
So there is nothing illegal. At most OP can be angry about these exclusions but in reality there is nothing wrong.
it is also true that if all casinos did not have such possibilities to deny bonus, they would simply go bankrupt

[Outhue]

Did you just mentioned multiple casino account? That's a nice casino, do you mind sharing the name of the casino? Because any online casino can held you accountable for using multiple accounts on its platform, you don't want to be complaining about bonuses restrictions when you are using multiple accounts, that's not nice.

1. Maybe you are winning over and over?
2. A multiple account user that you are.

Online casinos are very good at keeping tabs on their users, like I've said before, they are been nice to you, most online casinos I know will hold you for using multiple accounts already and they may do this after you win something meaningful.

[fruktik]

Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion

And what is the abuse? What a strange question. Personally, I don't think so. If a casino gives a bonus, then it should be used. Even if they give it out every day, then why not? I only use these bonuses with great joy.

If my memory serves me right, this has happened in my practice. They credited bonuses daily and I played with them. I even managed to withdraw something.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe casino have their definition about bonus abused so they explain what they want to their customer. That can make us as customer confuse with the casino wants and even they are trying to explain what they want, we still think that it is not make sense to hear their explanation. If I have in your situation, I will not playing gambling in that casino because I think I have the other casinos that can give me more excitement. We as a user have many choices to playing gambling and that is not just for one casino only. You don't have to think what part is the abused on your case because casino don't want to see their members win many times.

[sompitonov]

The thing is that frequent use of bonuses is something I really like and I can spend more time on it to get additional spins or increase our first deposit and so on. Obviously, the casino does this to attract new users, and of course they don't like it when the same players start using it, especially old ones and those who don't bet too much. But what's important is whether it is written in the rules that you can't use it multiple times. I understand that they will write that you can't abuse these promotions in the rules, but then let them write about it in the next line and in capital letters, then it will be clear that they feel sorry to give away part of the money for this.

[Nwada001]

Provided your story is entirely true and you've not violated any of the casino's terms and conditions like multiple accounts or a different account but shares the same computer, IP address, and whatnot, then I assume it's because you're making the most of their bonus while being lucky.

For someone who is winning with almost all the bonus that he receives on every deposit made after three days, if there is any form of the user violating their policy on multi-accounting, I don't think the casino would have just restricted him from receiving further bonuses.
 
Rather, it could have been a perfect reason for them to fortify his deposit, but this case is different. Just like the first thread of the Op back last year, the casino's don't know how to directly tell him that he is overwinning them, and if he is doing that, he should only be winning with his deposit and not with their bonus too, so I assume they stop giving him a bonus in order to reduce how much he can win off from the casino.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Did you just mentioned multiple casino account? That's a nice casino, do you mind sharing the name of the casino? Because any online casino can held you accountable for using multiple accounts on its platform, you don't want to be complaining about bonuses restrictions when you are using multiple accounts, that's not nice.

1. Maybe you are winning over and over?
2. A multiple account user that you are.

Online casinos are very good at keeping tabs on their users, like I've said before, they are been nice to you, most online casinos I know will hold you for using multiple accounts already and they may do this after you win something meaningful.

I didn’t violate the ToS and FYI I’m an experienced gamble, I‘m not naive to violate casino ToS. I suggest to read again the whole context before you made a post or I will report you to @Hhampuz.

It looks like the OP will complain about you to the manager . You are inattentive. The OP writes that he uses one account per casino. Although I don't know how many paying casinos are on his list and how this is possible. But if the OP does this, then it works for him.
Previously, this was called bonus hunting.

However, I am on the OP's side. Although we know that bonuses are a complete marketing ploy for newbies, the casino must fulfill everything that players use, or completely cancel everything.
Otherwise, it looks like you, as a consistently winning player, are no longer of interest to the casino, and they are happy to see new people getting bonuses and even more losing with their bonuses.

[Rampagoe004]

Maybe casino have their definition about bonus abused so they explain what they want to their customer. That can make us as customer confuse with the casino wants and even they are trying to explain what they want, we still think that it is not make sense to hear their explanation. If I have in your situation, I will not playing gambling in that casino because I think I have the other casinos that can give me more excitement. We as a user have many choices to playing gambling and that is not just for one casino only. You don't have to think what part is the abused on your case because casino don't want to see their members win many times.

We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses. An interesting thought in terms of responding to bonuses from casinos which are often misused because the casinos explain the desire to loyal customers to achieve monthly or annual targets.
the things that are explained are like not being sure in our understanding of the meaning of what they are explaining. We have to learn from the casino here that we players are impossible to give wins to the same member no more than 2x and even that is very difficult to happen.

[satscraper]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

I think in your case casino has abused you rather than vice versa.  I would immediately quit cold this casino, disseminate this case over Internet to prevent other gamblers from  a dirty trick  which casino plays  with them. There are many casinos that allows to use allocated bonuses on your own will. The action of this particular casino seems to be irrational for me.

[Taskford]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

If they intentionally give those bonus then there's no reason for them to tag you as a abuser since normally a gambler would provably use that if there's a bonus given on their account. Its so shady that they use it as reason to stop you from winning on their casino so with that cases I guess its better to avoid them since maybe who knows you might experience the worse and create something issue just to stop your withdrawal if you request it to them.

Also this incident show that they don't really like their player to win and those bonus is just to lure people to gamble in their casino, but if they win they are limiting those players and say something that they abuse their bonuses which is  crazy reason to hear.

[Zlantann]

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

The choice of words of the support staff is inappropriate. Calling it bonus abuse makes it look like you violated the terms of the bonus which is not the case here. They should have simply told OP that he is not qualified to enjoy the bonus based on the decision of the management instead of accusing him of bonus abuse. I suggest that if you are not comfortable with them, stop gambling there and move on. Customer relations staff should be well trained on how to communicate with people appropriately.  

We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses.

Bonus is what attracts me to a casino and it can also make me a loyal customer if it keeps coming. Truly, we don't have to rely on these bonuses to win but they can give one a higher chance of winning. Casinos also know that gamblers need these incentives which is why they offer good bonuses.  

[Odusko]

Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion

I don't believe that casino will limit player's based on frequent usage of bonus, this is because at some point bonuses are the sure ways to attract players to the site and if the player have seen that the bonuses gave them the chance to test out the site's, it becomes a thing of attraction to many of them and at that point continues playing on the site becomes the next thing,so saying that a casino blocked a player account because of bonus usage is somewhat not too clear to me and as a matter of fact we all need to be clear on what this really means since we already have the mindset that casino's are losing alot of money by giving out bonuses to both new and old players,but that been Said, alot of them also see that as a way of marketing the casino to reach new players and giving them the chance to play on that casinos, at some point,we need to all agree with the fact that gambling have to do with alot of thing's such as the activities of the gambler on the site and how is the manner of his previous transactions.

Although there are some other casinos that have some shady ways of operations and those in that category have been highly affected to the point that even without the player committing any crime, their can easily block such and account simply because their feels that the player is already winning too much, I don't know about winz.io and how their operates but quite a  good number of them have some bonus rules that can be unfriendly.

[coin-investor]

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

I'm not playing on Winz.io based on what I understand; the casino is the one that set up the rules and the terms, and you just availed of it without violating them on the rule of multi-accounting, so I don't see any abuse on that.

This is one case of a casino not taking it lightly. If the player wins a lot coming from the bonus they themselves set up, you cannot beat the house while playing, and you cannot beat them on their own rules. That's how dubious casinos implement their rules.

So if they are doing this on bonus alone, what more if you won a huge amount of money, They will cone out with reasons why you cannot withdraw your winnings.


 

[famososMuertos]

Well, if the rating they give you bothers you, it's not that serious, I mean, it doesn't matter, in the long run that is always intrinsic to the TOC and usually in the general items and not specific to that game, if I explain myself!

Then, that clause is used at their discretion depending on the case, at just any Casino.

[Fortify]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Bonuses are essentially an act of goodwill and generosity by a casino, you should not assume that you have a right to any of them. Bonuses can be abused in a couple ways, the first being blatant abuse like multi accounting which is bound to attract attention and will get you banned from a casino entirely. The second are lighter bonuses that might give you slightly better odds on a sports bet, but if you regularly use them you might be "gubbed" if you're considered an unprofitable player to them. You must always read the terms thoroughly, I get the impression you were banned from a certain bonus because you have used it at more than one in a specific casino group of websites.

[BABY SHOES]

No wonder your account has been scouted by the casino for utilizing the bonus wheel every 3 days, maybe Winz casino thinks you only use the bonus to deposit instead of playing directly.

So this is only limited to your account but you are not limited by others, right? This may consider you too excessive in the wheel bonus claimed... So for this casino it is not reasonable then consider this abuse.

I don't know exactly how the bonus from Winz is because I don't play at that casino.

[Oluwa-btc]

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

It's normal to have such restrictions which is due to some reasons or defaultness of account, how I understood this is in this manner when you get casino bonus sometimes you exhaust it inorder to win but for the casinos I think they don't program it to be so and when you're winning using the bonus allocated I think they take it as an abused, cause after getting the bonus you can try to make use of it once or twice then you deposit to play the games more that's how it should be.Cause basically I know alot of person wouldn't want to spend money in deposits after getting casino bonus that they can as well use it to gamble so that act is labeled as an abuse of the bonus so when giving such opportunity I think one need to utilize it wisely rather than exhausting it for a win.

[YOSHIE]

Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?

As far as I know, the bonus has conditions for pouring it in, if the conditions that have been set by the casino for you are completed, I think you have the freedom to use the bonus, no matter if you use it until it is used up or half or many times.

The bonus is your right given by the casino, you can use it repeatedly, it's not misuse, it's yours, but the bonus has an expiration date so you have to use it before the specified time, as long as that time is available you are free to use it, I have never seen that using any bonus can abuse casino rules, Winz.io has representatives here and members here are also busy playing there, maybe a little extra information from them would be useful, because I don't use Winz.io casino.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

It's their way of saying you win too much from our promotions, similar to how sportsbooks suddenly limit their winning players.

I also wouldn't say it's abuse when you're only taking advantage of the bonus, and i've seen other casinos limit players when they overuse their bonuses.

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.

Yeah but honestly, this would not be an abuse, he basically just got lucky if he actually won too much. The way everything is disigned you always need luck to be up, anything else is just imagination.
The only you an abuse would happen is when you have multiple accounts and or for example di arbitrage betting or whatever to clear a bonus.
So their wording in my opinion is very wrong and not the right explanation. But there is nothing a player can do since they always refer to the TOS and that you acknowledged them when registering.