Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?

[danherbias07]

Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

I understand the point you are making and where you are heading; there is a limit to the bonus, but then again, when the casino keeps on giving you the bonus, when ever the gambler meets the bonus requirement, what do you expect the gambler to do?
 
Ignore the bonus or contact the casino that they gave him or her a bonus that's not supposed to be awarded, and in a situation where how often the bonus will be given is not also mentioned on the bonus TOS, what do you expect the person to do in such a situation?
 
If the casino forgot and has continuously given the person a bonus, why not just say you have used up your bonus limit rather than using the word "bonus abuse" if there is nothing to prove that the person abused the bonus system?

Anyone who would do that is a hypocrite or say that he reported a bonus that is not supposed to be given to him. It's a bonus! Claim it! That's the first impression a gambler would react when a bonus is given to him. It's called a bonus for a reason. 

You are right, they can just forfeit on giving the bonuses to a certain user and let him play on their gambling site. Doing this might even help them get back whatever amount they lost since it had always been that way for many gamblers, losses. Bonus abuse is like you did something wrong while you are just receiving whatever you have given to him.
I don't think that's the right approach to fix things and large business should keep their customers if they want their money back in case something like this will happen.

[nara1892]

If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.

Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

Yes, maybe that's the reason, but I think if the casino has provided an open bonus for gamblers then it means it shouldn't be a problem if the gambler uses the bonus, abusing it means when someone tries to use something for things that are prohibited, but in terms of bonuses I think there is no such thing as abusing because when the casino provides the bonus then it means it is the right of a gambler to use it.
Besides I don't think I see anything suspicious with the actions that a gambler will take with the bonus, it's just additional funds to increase the amount of the gambler's deposit which of course will end in two possibilities between winning or losing everything.

[Miles2006]

I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer, The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.

[passwordnow]

I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer

He knows the rules but then, the casino have decided and said that he's abusing it although it's not on their books. Maybe this can be a loop hole for some and then they've forgotten to modify the rules and so, this where it is about their rights and can decide whatever is an abuse and whatever it is not. But mostly, when someone is able to get bonuses as if it's an unlimited deal, they would think that there's really an abuse that's happening it.

And for them to be able to take advantage of it, they're cutting the fun on that user so that it will be stopped with the bonuses that it is enjoying. From the very start, many knew about these bonuses aren't really easy to claim so if you're a lucky guy that's able to claim this soon then make sure that you are adhering to their rules and them being honest, it's not about that but all about the business.

The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.

It's there for as long as they want to be or likely a permanent tag on his account.

[fruktik]

Yes, as per my understanding too the casino will give limited bonus to every player and they already have this calculation in place. In case, you are getting a bonus again and again, then it is your right to use this bonus as frequently as you can because it is allowed by the gambling site. Usually, the gambling casino will put high wagering requirements on such casinos, so even if you are getting the bonus every now and then, you won't be able to cash it out.

I am not surprised by this state of affairs. I remember a case when I was given a decent bonus in a casino, but the condition was to wager more than 20x. Well, how can you withdraw money here? It's just unrealistic. With such data, you can forget about money once and for all. Yes, it is nice when they credit a bonus, but according to the rules, this is just something. Now I have no illusions about this. I immediately look for a catch in this. Perhaps not all casinos practice this, but it happens quite often.

[fikrett]

I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer, The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.

It was either a house rule or the house is just not that big and got OP restricted from being that lucky That's what I've read from the original thread, and I believe this idea.
We will never know, I imagine.

[bakasabo]

I am not surprised by this state of affairs. I remember a case when I was given a decent bonus in a casino, but the condition was to wager more than 20x. Well, how can you withdraw money here? It's just unrealistic. With such data, you can forget about money once and for all. Yes, it is nice when they credit a bonus, but according to the rules, this is just something. Now I have no illusions about this. I immediately look for a catch in this. Perhaps not all casinos practice this, but it happens quite often.

Bonus does not mean free money. I can agree that 20x wager is a lot, but when you make a deposit, you should consider bonus as an addition to your balance, but not as money that casino give you for free. Otherwise what will stop gambler from withdrawing bonus without even gambling? You say it is unrealistic, but who has promised you that it will be easy to get bonus money? Even at work you do something to earn, you dont just attend work to receive salary by the end of a month or week.

With OP case, I wont call it an abuse, but I understand it like it was a welcome bonus he was granted. Then it looks strange how can welcome bonus be used several times, because after a first deposit/registration, gambler is no longer a new person for casino. If I was that casino, I would not call such gamblers as bonus abusers, but reconsider bonus policy and would have used a different warning/explanation. 1 gambler - 1 welcome bonus.

[KTChampions]

In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?

[Mahanton]

In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?

When dealing up with gambling then you should really be that always having that kind of consideration or realization that it will really be just that always for the sake of fun and this is something that you should
really be that having in mind so that you wont really be that pushing yourself out of your limit. When it comes to abuse then the most common thing that do happen is to make multiple accounts on which
this is where abusers will really be trying out to take advantage on having those kind of multiple account creations for the sake on having that dealing up with those bonuses. We do know that bonuses could really be
neither be that activate or not depending or basing up into gamblers preference or decisions on which we know that if you do find yourself having this kind of set up and chose up to active it out but it turns out
that you do able to hit up the threshold then there's nothing wrong with that. In this case on which the casino is really that telling you are abusing which the fact that you are making the right thing and able
to get those rollovers legally or on fairly then thats really kind of odd words that came from them. You would really be that basically having those kind of questions on what the heck they've been saying around.

[ethereumhunter]

Cheaters would always be a cheater and on the moment that they would really be able to see some hole then they would really be definitely be trying out to abuse it and this is something which isnt shocking
but we do know that these businesses are already that wary about these possible cheats on which we know that they are really that prepared for that. Whenever you do get caught then expect that you would be blocked and this is something that will really be that stopping these cheaters to do such thing. As for legit gamblers then they would really be sometimes lucky enough on dealing up with bonuses but
the platform did make out some words about such abuse on which its not really that relevant at all. Where's the abuse on this one?

Yeah, that is right because they think that they can do that in many places and using their skill to cheat the casino. They don't know that casino can detects what they do and can close their account easily and not takes to long to do that. Those cheaters doesn't have to think to cheat casino by creating multiple account just to abuse the system or bonus because that will just waste of time and they will see their account will be closed by the casino.

If we can be a legit gamblers, we don't have to worry with anything because we don't create multiple account in that casino. We follows their rules because we realize that there is no use to cheat casino and make our account getting a risk closed by the casino.

Yes, perhaps the most frequent violation is the creation of a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Even when I was just starting to get involved in the interpent of Gambling, I created myself a second akaty for referral obstacles but I was banned a day in a week. After that, I don’t do it anymore because those commissions that could be there There were definitely not two accounts.I think a lot of newcomers did this, because this is a rather cunning trick.

The casino will find out their members who cheat their system by creating a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Maybe we don't know how the casino find our second account but they will close it as soon as they know and they can do that with or without noticing us to close all of our account. You already experienced so you don't have to try it again in other casino because that will be a matter of time for casino to know that you are trying to abuse their referral bonus. People should learn from other experiences about creating multiple account to chase a referral bonus so they don't have to do that and just play gambling without having a will to do that.

[Jody.Drummer]

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?

I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

[sompitonov]

Sometimes I think that players from the poorest countries can put a lot of effort into using bonuses in casinos frequently to try to make money, although it is not a fact that it will work. I mean, they have a very small dollar per hour at work and because of this, no moral principles will stop them. I do not want to offend anyone and them, because this is just what they potentially use and if it was impossible to do, they would not do it. I have no doubt that the casino tracks all the statistics on all bonuses and sees from which countries they are requested the most. I think from rich countries some can even go in without using any bonuses, but only because they wanted to spin the reels a couple of times and lose a few hundred bucks.

[Pandu Geddon]

I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

I think it's not because of not reading the ToS of the casino or the rules of the bonuses that can be obtained and used by gamblers. Sometimes some gamblers deliberately want to get a little more benefit from the bonuses given by the casino.
At first, there may not be a problem, but when the pattern is done regularly, it will eventually create suspicion of the gambler's account activity.

However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.

[hahay]

Sometimes I think that players from the poorest countries can put a lot of effort into using bonuses in casinos frequently to try to make money, although it is not a fact that it will work. I mean, they have a very small dollar per hour at work and because of this, no moral principles will stop them. I do not want to offend anyone and them, because this is just what they potentially use and if it was impossible to do, they would not do it. I have no doubt that the casino tracks all the statistics on all bonuses and sees from which countries they are requested the most. I think from rich countries some can even go in without using any bonuses, but only because they wanted to spin the reels a couple of times and lose a few hundred bucks.

Yes indeed, just utilizing bonuses can also basically make money, some of them only get a small profit but in fact there are also many who get a large profit just playing from the bonus. But even so, at least the platform will also have conditions for such players to be able to make withdrawals, such as deposits and the amount of wagared that must be achieved. Thus,  players also need to make an effort of course to be able to make withdrawals but even so, it is also possible that they only do it just for leisure, so that they do not have the pressure until their bets succeed in making good profits.

[KTChampions]

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?

I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

I am one of this majority and I also never read the ToS. Firstly, I choose a casino based on reputation (it is obvious that real people's opinions about the service are more important than advertising or the ToS), secondly, as I already wrote above, I have enough common sense not to get into controversial situations. If a player doesn't read the ToS and doesn't have common sense, then of course he will end up in an "incomprehensible" situation.

[Su-asa]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question

[usekevin]

First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question

The gambling also based on the prediction,the more you predict well.The more you win more from the gambling,the gamblers was successful on the prediction was the exact point of gambling.The knowledge about the game was huge importance to make the money from the same game from which you had loss the money.Play with the free money,So the loss also not the big one for the gamblers.The gamblers should honest towards their game,because anytime the luck favours the gamblers and make huge money from it.The gamblers should understand the gambling risk and ready to both the results of the betting game.

[SamReomo]

But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?

Well the idea of bonus on casinos is more similar to bribery and that's a type of bribery that casinos offer to players so they can be part of a casino. In most cases new users who avail the bonuses often end up losing money because of being unable to complete the wagering requirements.

Then all such users end up depositing more funds so they can recover the losses and earn money from that casino instead of letting it to take the money that he/she had lost in order to complete the wagering requirements. That's why I guess a good player should avoid such bonuses and enjoy gambling as a fun activity. If he/she is lucky then he/she will win.

[terrific]

However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.

I admire those casinos that have less complainants but all of them cannot avoid these problems of abuse from their gamblers.
Some may say that they're not actually abusing the platform but in the perspective of the casino per se, they think that they were.
As for OPs case, it's different and really depends on the judgement of the casino that he's gambling at. I am not here to judge but it's true that bonuses are for gamblers to have and to motivate them to stay and come back any time to them.

[Dewi Aries]

First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question

The gambling also based on the prediction,the more you predict well.The more you win more from the gambling,the gamblers was successful on the prediction was the exact point of gambling.The knowledge about the game was huge importance to make the money from the same game from which you had loss the money.Play with the free money,So the loss also not the big one for the gamblers.The gamblers should honest towards their game,because anytime the luck favours the gamblers and make huge money from it.The gamblers should understand the gambling risk and ready to both the results of the betting game.

Yes, but anyway you will never know which prediction is right and which prediction is wrong, meaning that defeat or victory does not occur because you are smart in making decisions but because you are lucky enough to choose one of the two options. If we talk about the type of sports betting then yes of course knowledge and skills are needed but we must also understand that it is nothing more than a tool, or in the sense that the actual results cannot be known 100% accurately.

That is why every gambler is always advised to only gamble with a minimum amount of money or in small amounts, because anyway we will never know about the results at the end of the game, the point is you can win but you are also very likely to lose.