The scramble for merits

[Igebotz]

Out of 10 applications, 5 posts were in English while 5 posts were in Pidgin. Even the last posts I counted among English was not totally written in English but Pidgin was included.

Funny how you skipped the main OP and only talked about the 5 local posts buried in middle of your application. I don't have power to recommend who becomes a source on the local board but if given the chance to, it's going to be really hard for me to vouch for you if your "sent merits" history remains this way. When it comes to taking decisions and deciding on what's good for the community I don't let friendship cloud my judgement.

You do not know 99% of the profile you are sending merit to? Let us be realistic than making further analyses. .

I guess you know 99% of the profiles you sent merits to. Okay na.

[Charles-Tim]

Funny how you skipped the main OP and only talked about the 5 local posts buried in middle of your application.

It was two applications. The OP for English board while the other one that I posted was obviously for local board when I noticed we needed merit source also.

I do not have to be a local board merit source. You and Brainboss can now take care of that.

I don't have power to recommend who becomes a source on the local board but if given the chance to, it's going to be really hard for me to vouch for you if your "sent merits" history remains this way. When it comes to taking decisions and deciding on what's good for the community I don't let friendship cloud my judgement.

I would have been an active merit sender to Nigerian local board posters with no biases because I have no more account to grow and I dislike account farming or account selling. Also, merit has never been an issue for me since I have been on this forum.

Although, merit source for local board is no more in my mind while the one for English board may still be in my mind but it is fading already. It is now over 3 years.

I guess you know 99% of the profiles you sent merits to. Okay na.

You can not compare technical board to local board. Especially from what we have analyzed.

[Igebotz]

I guess you know 99% of the profiles you sent merits to. Okay na.

You can not compare technical board to local board. Especially from what we have analyzed.

Then stop making assumptions - everyone is anonymous on this forum.. my target is to drop at least 1 merit on every profile on this local board and I'm close to achieving that.

[Mia Chloe]

I guess you know 99% of the profiles you sent merits to. Okay na.

You can not compare technical board to local board. Especially from what we have analyzed.

Then stop making assumptions - everyone is anonymous on this forum.. my target is to drop at least 1 merit on every profile on this local board and I'm close to achieving that.

Always a fight about merits🤦 I don't think this should be an argument.
Naija board has a lot of alts and merit cyclers but the truth is I really don't see much need arguing about it since it's in virtually every local board on this forum.

Sincerely quality of posts on our Naija local board has dropped for quite some time now and coupled with the ALTs every where it's difficult to tell a genuine newbie here that's part of the reason I haven't been an active merit sender here on this board.

I won't blame any alt farmers or merit cyclers here Since most local boards do too all I urge is for others to be given a chance ( the genuine newbies) and most importantly let's do our best to improve quality of our posts.

[Igebotz]

Naija board has a lot of alts and merit cyclers but the truth is I really don't see much need arguing about it since it's in virtually every local board on this forum.

It's speculations and one could only make assumptions - it's not a fact until proven.

[Troytech]

What do you use to qualify your post as worthy? This is a question I ask myself most times that is why I dont post because I want to be merited but I do post to offer my own opinion and contribution to any conversation I join. If it is worth it to any individual and he decides to merit it then fine if it isn't maybe i should have done better. Most people post having in mind that their post is worth meriting, while to others it is just a bag of trash written or not worth them meriting.

When we do something, we are supposed to let others appreciate us, not to hope to be appreciated because we think we are supposed to be appreciated by all means. Sometimes you get merited in the forum on posts you dont even expect to be merited.

[Richbased]

Just to let you know OP, creating a thread doesn't necessarily mean you will gain merit even when it is a meritable post, however the replies of users in some cases are more informative and valuable than the contents of the OP so don't think that by merely creating a thread that you are entitled to gaining merits from it. If you take a look at some mega threads in the general discussion board you'll see that the OP didn't get much merits but when you read replies of some users you will see that they are better more merit worthy than the thread of the OP so don't feel inferior or belittled when your posts don't get merits, perhaps we have few merit sources with little allocations so sometimes a post can be merit worthy but they may be out of source.
     
Moreover, if you are very observant you will understand that the local board moderator is trying as much as possible to circulate merits within the local board since he's more committed to reading members posts and replies, if he sees a post that is merit worthy he can easily identify it.

[Hatchy]

Naija board has a lot of alts and merit cyclers but the truth is I really don't see much need arguing about it since it's in virtually every local board on this forum.

It's speculations and one could only make assumptions - it's not a fact until proven.

I see no benefits proving such accounts. Not that if some persons were to settle down and find prove, they won't see. I just know how hard our country is and how everyone is managing to survive so this matter should just die as like I said nothing good will benefit anyone from exposing such accounts. I can still remember some funny things I see sometime on my notification bot, I see two different accounts posting same things but upon checking one has deleted it. I don't really care nor keep records as it's non of my business.. we should all just keep up our good work making nija board as good as those other locals even when we all know that this forum is filled with alts.

[Forever101]

As for the matter of merit, I will site one simple errors new users or newbie keep repeating, don't think of being merited on this forum if you have gather enough knowledge of what you are about to share , let me shock you a bit, do you know that 98% of what you want to share has been discussed years before you joined the forum?. To be realistic with you, extra work is needed to get merited on the platform this days.

Don't be in a hurry to post, most of your post will start appearing like shit post without gravity to pull merit.

The question to ask yourself before posting is that will this post enlightened the old members who more versatile in bitcoins than me, or will it draw their attention to reward my concern for other new users in the house?.

Be rest assured that you will get merited with this little talk of mine.

[Wolf of One Street]

It's actually very sad and discouraging especially to us newbies but I believe that there is always a place for growth and that's one thing this platform is for.
I will be very glad to see a merit in my dashboard.
I just imagine how overwhelming it will be.

[Zanab247]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

The reason the majority of them merits those people that replies in the newbies topics, is because they are the ones responding to the question the newbies asked in that trend for other people to learn too not to ask the same questions another time in the forum.

But there are some people who will merit the newbies, if the topic added value to the forum but if the topic didn't add value to the forum, it will be hard for you to get merit because is not good to create topics for merits purpose. That is why some merits sources have created some trend to submit some topics or comments worthy merits and you will be merit op. I will encourage you not to feel bad whenever you create a topic and you didn't get merits, but those that replied or comments on the trend are getting merits from the trend than to find out the reason why and you will begin to see the reason that will make you to start displaying quality Post because people like to merit quality Post in this forum.

[Igebotz]

It's actually very sad and discouraging especially to us newbies but I believe that there is always a place for growth and that's one thing this platform is for.
I will be very glad to see a merit in my dashboard.
I just imagine how overwhelming it will be.

This platform is for knowledge not for growth, nobody cares about your growth and there are set of newbies that doesn't care about the merit system, just here to learn and to contribute organically. You're barely a week on this platform and all you care about is merit and rank? Well, your posts history isn't going to get you any unless you improve and learn.

You're in for a long ride, just be patient and enjoy...

[Nheer]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

If a newbie creates a good topic and fails to receive merit then something must be up somewhere, it could be that the post doesn’t meet certain standards people want or such post have been made before by other members.

You cannot determine the quality of your own posts its only others that can rate the quality of posts and if they don’t see it worthy of being merited then they won’t merit it. If you want to feel discouraged here because you don’t receive merit on post you took time creating then I would say you are not ready to succeed in this forum. Merit and ranking up is not all the forum is about, it’s a place where knowledge is shared among members and as a beginner there is no better place to learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrency so my advice for you is to focus on learning first before thinking about ranking up and it will be more easier to rank up when you have acquired enough knowledge.

Just as Igebotz said, no one cares about your growth all that is important is to make good contributions to the forum and if anyone like your contribution them you will receive merit.

[Igebotz]

If a newbie creates a good topic and fails to receive merit then something must be up somewhere, it could be that the post doesn’t meet certain standards people want or such post have been made before by other members.

I've merited more newbies/low ranking members on this board more than high rank members- I'm more into quality and not rank. If OP improves I will review his accounts as well.

[Gooner0]

What do you use to qualify your post as worthy? This is a question I ask myself most times that is why I dont post because I want to be merited but I do post to offer my own opinion and contribution to any conversation I join. If it is worth it to any individual and he decides to merit it then fine if it isn't maybe i should have done better. Most people post having in mind that their post is worth meriting, while to others it is just a bag of trash written or not worth them meriting.

When we do something, we are supposed to let others appreciate us, not to hope to be appreciated because we think we are supposed to be appreciated by all means. Sometimes you get merited in the forum on posts you dont even expect to be merited.

everyone seems to be taking this topic the wrong way, I never said I personally come up with merit worthy topics that never get merits. if you could read fully well the content otmf the topic I started you could try to see it's not really about me, it's my observation on the forum.
I see people post topics that really deserves merits, but they don't get merits but replies that aren't even related to the topic get merited under that same topic, so this is something that's worth talking about..
I really wished igebotz saw this , this way.

[Tungbulu]

And another thing you have to do is to read more than posting. So that you will know more things in the forum. As I said if you know any quality posts be a comment or thread, submit them on those people's links wey I drop plus your own if you have any quality topic submit am.

I really love wetin you talk here. Everything you don talk for your reply make adequate sense, but this particular paragraph I believe na e be the actual problem many newbies dey encounter. Anyways, I no really blame them because when me I be even first join the forum, my priority na to earn the required merits to qualify me to join campaign and start t dey chop campaign money, but along the line as I proceed I come dey observe say asides the money wey person fit chop for campaign, this forum dey embodied with plenty plenty information wey we fit use develop ourselves and you fit only benefit from the forum when you carry your eye down to read and learn, rather than to dey busy dey hustle for merits.

So far, na me know wetin I don learn for the forum, things wey be say, as I dey apply for the real life, e dey help me both financially and otherwise. So this na the best advice for newbies, no be say to fyn merits no be better thing o, but sometimes, just dedicate yourself to reading and learning things for the forum and e go really help you a lot.
If you check the Legendary members their posts, even the Hero Members and some high tankers, you go see say their posts them make sense, educative, informative and most importantly, merit worthy, and the reason for this na because them don dedicate themselves to reading and learning and that way, them get meaningful something to contribute to the forum wey fit earn them better number of  merits. So rather tha stressing yourself and hustling for merits, dedicate yourself to learning.

[Gooner0]

If a newbie creates a good topic and fails to receive merit then something must be up somewhere, it could be that the post doesn’t meet certain standards people want or such post have been made before by other members.

I've merited more newbies/low ranking members on this board more than high rank members- I'm more into quality and not rank. If OP improves I will review his accounts as well.

I really do care about getting merits , and also I don't care if I don't. I've only spent I think two months on this forum, I was introduced by a friend of mine. And trust me I've really gotten a lot of information from this forum that has improved me a lot. And I look forward to getting schooled more.
This topic I started is just something I observed on the forum, I just decided to speak out , if you do check my other topics you wouldn't see any topic I've started that isn't merited but replies under my topic getting merits! No you wouldn't see , so this is just from my observation on other topics, I'm not crying out to get merited.  

[Tungbulu]

It's actually very sad and discouraging especially to us newbies but I believe that there is always a place for growth and that's one thing this platform is for.
I will be very glad to see a merit in my dashboard.
I just imagine how overwhelming it will be.

This platform is for knowledge not for growth, nobody cares about your growth and there are set of newbies that doesn't care about the merit system, just here to learn and to contribute organically. You're barely a week on this platform and all you care about is merit and rank? Well, your posts history isn't going to get you any unless you improve and learn.

You're in for a long ride, just be patient and enjoy...

I think the reason why majority of the newbies in the forum prioritize Ranking/Merit system and growth over genuine acquisition of knowledge is because of how they managed to learn about the forum or how or who introduced them to the forum, and what information their referee gave them. We know the greatest issue our Naija people are facing is lack of job opportunities and so people prefer to look at the forum as a way of earning a living, rather than a community to learn and share ideas and information.

So if a newbie’s referee tells the newbie that he earns through the newbie and that the only way to earn from the forum is by trying as much as possible to earn some good number of merits to qualify you to join a campaign and then you can start earning from the campaign, these newbies will act on this information and all their actions on the forum would be based on the information they received from their referee, thereby prioritizing growth and merit system over the knowledge that’s embedded in the forum. This I believe is the main reason to this misconception of the forum by the newbies.

[Dzwaafu11]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

Let me just say you are a newcomer based on the physical appearance of the account, but deep down you are not. Newbies cannot confidently say or reply to people who are commenting on his thread. However, if you are looking for merit, you must do a very good post that works meritingly. People who replied to your post may write it in a more meaninful way than you do, so no lack of merit; it’s because it does not merit improvement. You will see merit in your posts.

These lies are getting too much. Have you now graduated to lying? Prove this with stat.

Not that I do not have good days here. At least there was a time I remember I sent merits very well like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357434.msg62987551#msg62987551. I only received 1 or 2 but not more than 2 from CryptopreneurBrainboss who sometimes send me merit despite our differences, while the remaining from Hugeblack which was over 25 merits that he sent me that month to posts on this board. No one on Nigeria board than Brainboss that sent merit to me that month. Hugeblack was the encouragement that month.

I saw some posts on this board that were implying they saw emotion about my posts on this local board. I was like this while posting on this board.

With all theses arguments, still no one could send op some merits.. it's obvious why he was angry and created the post In the first place. @ Charles-Tim and Igebotz, you are both bigger than these arguments, it's not showing good example on the local board. You should try and settle your differences. Merit shouldn't be a reason why people should start getting angry or one sided with each other. We are one family and one local board..

For the fact that merit was not created for the sake of stopping arguments, I see no reason why they should give the OP merit when they think the post is not worth meriting. If you give out your smerit, find a quality post and send it, and don’t give it because there is an argument and you think merit will be the reason to stop such arguments.

The only things I know I've noticed like I said in my other post is the merit distribution amongst members which obviously sometimes to some point looks like friends giving friends.. there is no prove about this so it's just a taught.. even if it's true, we should still stretch out our merits across other members of the local board, so it wont be obvious. Not just our local board, you check also see this in other local boards, where a member needs a good amount of merit to rank up and get into a campaign.. you see the bombardment of merits from different people just so he can rank up and apply. So it's just a thing not something that we should start arguing about.

Did you think so? Because if you look at the first page of this thread, igebotz gave some merits to some users; are they his friends? However, the boards you see doing that maybe because they have merit sources more than we do here or their merit sources get more merit allocation than here. 

[Charles-Tim]

For the fact that merit was not created for the sake of stopping arguments, I see no reason why they should give the OP merit when they think the post is not worth meriting. If you give out your smerit, find a quality post and send it, and don’t give it because there is an argument and you think merit will be the reason to stop such arguments.

Yes, merit should be sent to quality posts. Hatchy did not mean anyone should send merit to a post because of argument. He meant that likely one or some of his posts can be merit worthy just like this in summary. Do not let the merit Hatchy sent Gooner0 confuse you.