The scramble for merits

[Igebotz]

For the fact that merit was not created for the sake of stopping arguments, I see no reason why they should give the OP merit when they think the post is not worth meriting. If you give out your smerit, find a quality post and send it, and don’t give it because there is an argument and you think merit will be the reason to stop such arguments.

Yes, merit should be sent to quality posts. Hatchy did not mean anyone should send merit to a post because of argument. He meant that likely one or some of his posts can be merit worthy just like this in summary. Do not let the merit Hatchy sent Gooner0 confuse you.

"There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future"

There is no limit to how many smerits you can give to a certain profile as long as you believe the posts are worthy. If you need me to review someone's profile or posts, please report it here or shoot me a PM.

This topic I started is just something I observed on the forum, I just decided to speak out , if you do check my other topics you wouldn't see any topic I've started that isn't merited but replies under my topic getting merits! No you wouldn't see , so this is just from my observation on other topics, I'm not crying out to get merited. 

Got you! But you should know that the forum is about solutions - if you create a topic asking questions, those who provide answers on your topic are most likely to get more merits than you. It's a normal practice here.

You're breaking the basics rules - double posting

[Tmoonz]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

Don't be discouraged about not getting enough, I must say that every higher ranked members you see in the forum today started just the same way with you although while some already had certain level of knowledge in the crypto space others started learning while while navigating the forum, now depending on the criteria you fall in, my point is that you should try not to be discouraged, keep growing thicker skin, do the needful that is expected of you which is making educative informative quality posts, asking relevant questions where and when necessary surprisingly you can't imagine how fast you can grow in the forum, finally it is also very good to be very active, yes pays to be active.

[Fiasem20]

Op let me just tell you the honest truth there's absolutely no need complaining about how newbies receive merit on this forum all you have do is make quality posts it mustn't be a topic,once you start contributing and sharing quality ideas,merits will definitely come because there's nothing hidden under the sun.
Let me share my merit experience with you all,when I joined this forum I was curious to create topics with the perspective of receiving merit even when it wasn't worth meriting,I could remember the first topic I created on this forum was a total trash just like we do say I was attacked and at last the topic was deleted, though it hurt my feelings then but I told myself that if isn't good enough then it isn't perfect,so I had to read more,took out time to carry out research about Bitcoin and the crypto space at large.And when I created my second topic on this forum I received my first merit and it was encouraging and ever then I've been contributing quality posts on what I know.So I'll advise you to keep pushing and start making quality posts,and if your posts are worthy of merits it will definitely come.
The two merit source we have in Naija board,@CryptopreneurBrainboss and @Igebotz are really doing a great job by sending merits to quality posts.I really do appreciate you both for the good work.

[Miles2006]

> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

Indeed it’s so discouraging, I will advice you stop taking merit distribution personal because if you view the merit system in such manner you might feel hurt always for example few of those post the op never received a merit it’s either op asked a question and when people try to answer or solving a problem they get merit in return. It doesn’t necessary have to be a question also, the context of a written article matters a lot because creating a topic don’t only determine if you’ll recieve merit in return.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

You’re just being honest, merit distribution can’t be done forcefully I guess anyone can share their merit base on an agreed opinion, quality, etc. focus more on reading you’ll understand how merit system works but, in the search of merit I hope you educate yourself more about the forum and bitcoin.

[Juicyhome]

Op this local board population is the highest full of smart people  making good post like you too, no magic you have to be consistent to earn merit here.  Beside how many merit source do we have on the local board? Is just the moderator and is not enough with the increase in population on the board. Instead of complaining pray Local Board have more merit source like other boards. So merit can reach everyone. Until then keep making your good post.

[MainIbem]

Op this local board population is the highest full of smart people  making good post like you too, no magic you have to be consistent to earn merit here.  Beside how many merit source do we have on the local board? Is just the moderator and is not enough with the increase in population on the board. Instead of complaining pray Local Board have more merit source like other boards. So merit can reach everyone. Until then keep making your good post.

You've said it all, the population of the forum is increasing rapidly with fewer merit sources and at this point instead of complaining the OP should hope that more merit sources would be added to the forum to reward members with good quality posts. There's no doubt that it can be very heartbreaking to see that the post one feel is merit worthy doesn't get rewarded with merits whereas the replies by other people are getting merited in their own thread but come to think of it, the post one thinks is merit worthy might not seem well educative or interesting for people to merit them but they'll rather give merits to good replies or opinions concerning the person's topic and that's just it. However instead of being discouraged by that it's in the best interest of the OP to read and understand those merited replies to see why they got merited and learn from them, they should serve as a motivation for him to improve better instead of being discouraged. it implies to people who feel discouraged for getting fewer merits too.

[Yeesha]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

I feel your pain OP, na that challenge I dey face too,  it used to discourage me either, giving merit to newbies and Jr. members is going to encourage them to post more on the forum but if their posts is ignored they will be thinking that maybe what they are posting is not making any sense(meaningless), and they will fill disappointed and discourage. but sometimes I motivated myself to clear the discouraged and focus on my motivation. Because I realized that you can't get anything that is good until you work hard for it, and if you are patient you will be able to achieved what you want. So don't be discouraged, keep posting good posts and read a lot of posts on the forum and you will learn a lot of things from it.

[knowngunman]

Sigh! I really can't believe I read this thread from the first page to the fourth page. I'm not happy with some of the things I came across sincerely speaking. I don't want to wake the sleeping dog but please we all can do better than this actually. The country is already divided out there, let not cause further division here.

everyone seems to be taking this topic the wrong way, I never said I personally come up with merit worthy topics that never get merits. if you could read fully well the content otmf the topic I started you could try to see it's not really about me, it's my observation on the forum.
I see people post topics that really deserves merits, but they don't get merits but replies that aren't even related to the topic get merited under that same topic, so this is something that's worth talking about..
I really wished igebotz saw this , this way.

Oga, nobody understand your post in the wrong way. Na the way you put am dem dey interpret am for you. You don't need to be desperate about merits unless you are just here for a mission. I can not lie, so many of us felt the same thing in the past but we later realized it won't solve anything. The moment you put merit first, you'll always think you're not getting enough merit. You just have to relax and continue with worthy contributions, merits will definitely come when you least expect.

Personally, you think your posts are worthy of merits but believe me they're just thrash in the eyes of someone. You can not dictate for anyone what post to merit and not, everyone has their own test as what a worthy post is all about. Every thread can not be merited because newbies create the most topics while high ranks reply to such topics with useful information. You don't expect a repetitive topic to get merit ahead of informative reply under such topics.

An adage says that, when you are in haste you'll think you're not walking faster. That's your case now. You want to rank up as quickly as possible and you think merits is not coming as you expect. If you don't change that mindset now, you'll definitely feel disappointed and discouraged. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know.

By the way, nobody assured you of merits. You don't need to tie your encouragement to merits alone. The ideas you're getting here is enough to get you encouraged and keep the energy. If some of us have this mentality when we started, we wouldn't have reached here today. We will succumb and abandoned the forum long ago because nobody care about your emotions and blackmails plus you go chop tag for shit posting or spamming if care is not taken.

You and I know that countless of posts have been made about merit sending and yours is not the first. Why expecting merit for repeating what has been talked about countless times? Abeg, make all of us just keep up and improve to make our local board and the forum entirely better.

[SatoPrincess]

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Don't be discouraged about not getting enough, I must say that every higher ranked members you see in the forum today started just the same way with you although while some already had certain level of knowledge in the crypto space others started learning while while navigating the forum, now depending on the criteria you fall in, my point is that you should try not to be discouraged, keep growing thicker skin, do the needful that is expected of you which is making educative informative quality posts, asking relevant questions where and when necessary surprisingly you can't imagine how fast you can grow in the forum, finally it is also very good to be very active, yes pays to be active.

When we get more merit sources for local board e go dey easier for newbies and other ranks to get merits for the effort them dey out imo their writing. Let’s hope Theymos will approve a new merit source for us this Christmas. For now, you can post your best threads/posts here to get merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506090.0

[Oshio-man]

This are some of the things newbie must experience in this bitcoinstalk forum, to know why old members are getting merits than newbies in some threads because there are some things old members will correct in your thread, that will make other people that will comment in your thread to understand what the topic is all about, which the person may get merits than you that created the thread. Bitcoinstalk forum is place that contains or accommodate wise men and women, Before you create any thread in this forum, they read between the lines of the thread to know if you created it for merits purchase or for impact purpose, which you will definitely know by the reply and comments of other members in the forum, and if the thread is for impact you may get merits from the thread, and if you don't get merits done be panic about that than to move on with your good contribution to the forum.

[Tungbulu]

This are some of the things newbie must experience in this bitcoinstalk forum, to know why old members are getting merits than newbies in some threads because there are some things old members will correct in your thread, that will make other people that will comment in your thread to understand what the topic is all about, which the person may get merits than you that created the thread. Bitcoinstalk forum is place that contains or accommodate wise men and women, Before you create any thread in this forum, they read between the lines of the thread to know if you created it for merits purchase or for impact purpose, which you will definitely know by the reply and comments of other members in the forum, and if the thread is for impact you may get merits from the thread, and if you don't get merits done be panic about that than to move on with your good contribution to the forum.

I’ve also come to understand that not all good and quality posts are often merited in the forum, not because they’re not quality enough, merit worthy or impactful, I’ve seen lots and countless number of such quality posts that were left unmerited, and maybe the reason for this is that, regardless of how quality and educative your post may be, it may not actually meet the standards of the person that comes across the post, and that’s also why we have threads where you’re given the opportunity to report any post you feel is quality enough to receive a merit, you can report it to the threads and if those who come across it also share your opinion and think it’s also merit worthy, they merit the post. But just because a post isn’t merited doesn’t imply the post isn’t quality enough and that shouldn’t dissuade anyone from making further meaningful contributions.

[asarfiar]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

What you have said is reasonable in this forum, but I think senior person class walks play a special role to encourage newbies. Anyone, you or I, can create a forum posting environment, if we have a little patience and think deeply about different people's posts and post regularly. That being said, posting in forums doesn't require you to be very knowledgeable or follow any guidelines, but we should keep an eye on how senior people conduct themselves in terms of their post style. We will only qualify a post for merit when the background of our post is nice and elegant.
Desperation does not bring success in a person's life, if you keep posting regularly in the forum and patiently observe the post patterns of experienced people in the forum then you will be able to reach your specific goal.
As we know, the fruit of patience is sweet.

[Pressurizedem]

If we are to say the truth,it is very demoralising when one comes up with a good and quality posts,and within himself,he expects merits,but would be surprised that the post won't be merited,these and many more are what comes as a problem to newbies and people coming up in this forum.All I say is that if there is any post that is worth meriting, please give the merit without sentiment, because I know when merits were given the moment you are able to make a quality post,but now,you can be expecting it and won't see any.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!
> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

No be you go tell person the post wey him go merit. The topic wey you come up with wey you think say Na good topic for your eyes fit no be better topic for another person eye. Moreover you never can tell if the person get sMerit to give out. My advice to you is, if you are creating a post, just do it for the purpose of sharing vital and useful information/knowledge and not for merit purposes. Because e go shock you say that post wey you dey expect merit no go see one merit collect. Remove your mind from that side. Those reply that are getting merited fit pass more information than the post wey you create. But if you think say you don create better post wey supposed get merit and it's not merited, there are many threads here in the forum that you can report such posts for merit consideration. I think our moderator for this Local board also get him own thread were you can report such posts. No come make am look say na merit be your primary purpose of being here.

I tire my brother, meriting a post is all about my decision and understanding of your post and the level of information I feel that it conveys. although I understand OP's frustration with not getting relatively enough merits to compensate for his time and energy spent on developing topics. we all felt that way sometimes ago as people growing in the forum. OP needs to learn and continue learning if he must grow in the forum and keep finding where you are talented in and contribute more there meaningfully to gain merits.

Another thing is that for you to be lucky and gain merits in the forum you need to be smart and active, learn from the already established members by reading through their posts that gave them merit and digest the level of information they passed across in such scenario, compare it to yours and look for ways to up your game to the standards of posts that gets merits. you can also use the Supernotifier to be notified of new topics, mentions, merits and new replies in topics of interest. Also try to contribute in first pages of new topics as it increases your chances of being spotted easily and merited if your post is qualitative enough.

[EarnOnVictor]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!

Everyone needs the merits here, though it might be that new users need it more but I tell you, the old members need it as a matter of priority at times. This is to either build a better status or maintain a good one.

> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

This is the shortcoming of the forum's merit system, though it is helpful to curb spamming, it gives room for partial and effective distribution of the merit. That is why you will see a post of just two words with a normal meaning gaining over 50 merits, while a better constructed quality post has none.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

I agree with you but it can't work because sentiments rule this forum.

[Gooner0]

> in a platform where gaining merits is a priority especially to newbies and old-timers alike.
Not all old timers though!

Everyone needs the merits here, though it might be that new users need it more but I tell you, the old members need it as a matter of priority at times. This is to either build a better status or maintain a good one.

> The struggle to make a merit worthy topic seems difficult, and  discouraging, like for example a newbie carefully comes up with a good topic,  no merits! Lots of replies , then somewhere under the replies some members merit replies, still the main topic started isn't merited 💔.
It's somewhat  discouraging.

This is the shortcoming of the forum's merit system, though it is helpful to curb spamming, it gives room for partial and effective distribution of the merit. That is why you will see a post of just two words with a normal meaning gaining over 50 merits, while a better constructed quality post has none.

If you think a topic is merit worthy and you're able to give merits, do so to encourage others.

I agree with you but it can't work because sentiments rule this forum.

Truthfully speaking, I love your pov on this , many has taken this wrongly, saying maybe I'm out here for just merits but it's more than that.
I just felt this was something to talk about, which I did but not in the Best of ways , but regardless am Glad I said something.

[Bigjoe33]

Thank you so much @Marykeller. I believe thats just the fact. Dear OP, just do well to go through this user's(Marykeller) Comments. Right from origin when I joined this forum, the emphasis has always been on read, read & always read. More of knowledge, less posting. That growing on this platform depends on quality post or information shared which I believe comes from the knowledge gathered while reading.

So, as newbies, let's not get worried. Constant study will give us the mastery skill that we need to be better and get much merits as we deserve in due season. So, we keep pushing, we keep learning, we keep growing. One love