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September 21, 2024, 03:39:49 PM
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Is it me or are there way less extreme price swings and liquidations since the us government basically closed off access to offshore sites.
Bitcoin price seems to mimic the stock exchange even closer now

I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.

How do you guys think this effects crypto markets going forward since I don't see our government allowing sites 100x leverage anytime soon
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September 21, 2024, 04:05:32 PM
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Is it me or are there way less extreme price swings and liquidations since the us government basically closed off access to offshore sites.
Bitcoin price seems to mimic the stock exchange even closer now

I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.

How do you guys think this effects crypto markets going forward since I don't see our government allowing sites 100x leverage anytime soon

First of all crypto traders are not the gamblers and even I dont like leverage trading but in controlled leverage, as well people are playing on their skills in this market, you cant call them gamblers, Yup those who even use the 10x+ are kind of gamblers in my views they are just ***** their assets.

It's good if they've been discouraging the high leverage in the US using their policies changes, but we need to know trading is a good way to earn a living when it comes to leverage-based trading, or trading with other funds like borrowed funds it just sucks bro, whoever is doing that stop, you are going to toward a dead end and it's a one-way road for destruction.

I love trading with the bottom of my heart haha as it leads towards a heart attack sometimes but it's good for mental health, yup you've heard right its good as after watching so many jump scares in the market you get used to it and in your social life you can control things at a better node, due to your emotional control, precise decision making and plan of action, just dont run after greed everything is good.

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September 21, 2024, 04:09:45 PM
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I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.
Where you read it from is deceiving you. Take Binance.com and Binance.us as an example. Crypto 24 volume on Binance.com is $8.89 billion while it is $4.74 billion for Binance.us. Can you see the huge difference.

I guess some US citizens will make use of web3 exchanges for some derivative trading.

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September 21, 2024, 05:08:12 PM
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Derivative trading is kind of risky and the US government through regulations may want to control the level at which US citizens get contact with the derivative market because their feels that their citizens may run bankrupt if they continue to exhibits the greed level for that long because almost quite a good number of derivatives traders sees 10x as the basic low leverage for them, and at such allows their greed to make them increase the leverage higher which makes their liquidation price higher.


Most risky on derivative are meme coins, those guys have milk greedy traders and for sure that could e one of the reason that my have fuel the US decision on derivatives trading within the country.

 
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September 21, 2024, 05:11:54 PM
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I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.

How do you guys think this effects crypto markets going forward since I don't see our government allowing sites 100x leverage anytime soon
I don't know about USA regulations on leverages in cryptocurrency market but I simply search for what they do with other markets like Forex. Forex is a market with very high leverages so let's see what the USA. do with it.

High leverage Forex brokers in the USA.
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High leverage in the United States is limited to 50:1, but for international brokers to qualify, they must offer 400:1 leverage for at least a few major pairs. Keep in mind, leverage can vary depending on your region and account type.
They can do the same with cryptocurrency market or apply something stricter with this market, because we all know they are not too friendly with cryptocurrency market and don't want it growing too quickly.

I see the limit to x50 leverage is good, because it reduces risk for many users. Using x100 leverage is like suicide and I am happy if I don't have any chance to use x100 leverage, even not by my own control but regulation from government.

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September 21, 2024, 09:59:32 PM
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Is it me or are there way less extreme price swings and liquidations since the us government basically closed off access to offshore sites.
Bitcoin price seems to mimic the stock exchange even closer now
I think your observations are not accurate.

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I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.
Nah… most platforms actually ban use traders from doing derivatives trading.

How do you guys think this effects crypto markets going forward since I don't see our government allowing sites 100x leverage anytime soon
The US traders are already banned anyway, I don't  think there will be any drastic change.

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September 22, 2024, 08:10:56 AM
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I guess this makes sense since I've read the majority of crypto traders(gamblers) are in the US.

How do you guys think this effects crypto markets going forward since I don't see our government allowing sites 100x leverage anytime soon
I don't know about USA regulations on leverages in cryptocurrency market but I simply search for what they do with other markets like Forex. Forex is a market with very high leverages so let's see what the USA. do with it.

High leverage Forex brokers in the USA.
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High leverage in the United States is limited to 50:1, but for international brokers to qualify, they must offer 400:1 leverage for at least a few major pairs. Keep in mind, leverage can vary depending on your region and account type.
They can do the same with cryptocurrency market or apply something stricter with this market, because we all know they are not too friendly with cryptocurrency market and don't want it growing too quickly.

I see the limit to x50 leverage is good, because it reduces risk for many users. Using x100 leverage is like suicide and I am happy if I don't have any chance to use x100 leverage, even not by my own control but regulation from government.
In crypto, the United States ban the use of leverage for cryptocurrencies. If you are from United States, you will need to use different platforms for leverage. There are many web3 exchanges that have derivative trading and some of them offer 100 to 200x leverage on their site. But I do not know how it would be easy for United States people to make use of such platforms. I think the use of VPN can be good for it.

50x leverage in forex is small. The highest leverage that I have seen in crypto is 200x for bitcoin but you will see 1000x or more leverage in forex because forex is less volatile. The higher leverage makes it also very volatile and dangerous.

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