Well done KYC.

[Synchronice]

Most gamblers don't like submitting KYC because of many reasons. I don't blame them because personal data shouldn't be exposed to avoid invasion of privacy and other negative activities. But I read a story in the news that portrays the importance of KYC.

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace. The mother paid some money into the account and was hoping that her daughter would be released.

When this murderer went to withdraw the money from his betting account, the gambling firm asked for more KYC which included the National Identification Number. Out of desperation and ignorance, the criminal uploaded the information.

Adeleye’s capture came through tracing his SportyBet account, where he had uploaded his National Identification Number.

Using the document he submitted, law enforcement agents were able to track him and he was finally arrested. His arrest was made easy because of a KYC request from the gambling platform.

Source: Why I killed 18-year-old female church member – OOU student

It's rare to see such a stupid criminal but it's good that he casino asked him to submit KYC, he submitted and then got arrested. I think that the mother of that girl would call to casino and police at the same time and ask them to demand KYC from the criminal, which is a very smart move but it's sad that tragedy already happened.

By the way, exactly the same negative thing can someone experience with that KYC. I think that majority of us don't have a problem with KYC, we have a problem with the fact that companies do not take care of our privacy and there are data leaks here and there. I have read many news where someone's KYC data got leaked and someone took a loan on their name, threw them into a huge debt. There are also many cases when KYC leaked and the person was arrested because some scammers used their identity in certain cases and ruin person's life. Someone might be dead with this issue too. The problem is not a KYC, the problem is the lack of proper data protection.

[Dunamisx]

KYC is important in fishing out those that are abusing a set down protocol of a gambling platform, some may not be happy about the way of how all this is being run because they wanted to be free of having their information's on a central server, in case of being track or leaking some vital information out in their absence, but this same KYC could be the means of getting one secured from being attacked from criminals as said.

[Z_MBFM]

People do sees up KYC to be a bad thing but just like we do all know that it does have its positive effects or things that could bring out on which same on this case then crimes could really be solved out
on the moment that such crucial informations would really be known and this is really that something important. It is really just that this community is really that highly against KYC
and thats why they dont really that prefer it out but on cases or situations like this then it is really something important.

Generally speaking, KYC has many risk that is attached to it and the risks attached to it is not something I will begin to discuss now because it has already been talked about so many times on this forum. But there's a saying that's "everything that has disadvantages, also have a little or large advantage too. " Despite the risk of KYC, it has also help in capturing some culprits, just like the way the victims in the OP was identified.

KYC is good till when a platform keep them encrypted. but if any platform show someone document for any normal issue then this will not make us happy. in this story the gambling site done a good job. because he was a big criminal. Demanding ransom was not a big crime, but killing the girl was a big crime. so I support releasing his kyc data. But every site should be alerted so that no one can cheat someone's documents. but this story really hurt us a lot. taking someone's life like this is a heinous crime

[bangjoe]

People do sees up KYC to be a bad thing but just like we do all know that it does have its positive effects or things that could bring out on which same on this case then crimes could really be solved out
on the moment that such crucial informations would really be known and this is really that something important. It is really just that this community is really that highly against KYC
and thats why they dont really that prefer it out but on cases or situations like this then it is really something important.

Generally speaking, KYC has many risk that is attached to it and the risks attached to it is not something I will begin to discuss now because it has already been talked about so many times on this forum. But there's a saying that's "everything that has disadvantages, also have a little or large advantage too. " Despite the risk of KYC, it has also help in capturing some culprits, just like the way the victims in the OP was identified.

That's right, you just need to understand it, although it has its disadvantages, but the good is also in it, some people are worried about their identity is true, but here we just need to get a casino that is really safe, that incident is very despicable to lose a life, and I hope the victim's family gets the justice they deserve.

I really appreciate that this system helped a criminal to get what he deserves but the government is not really doing it to reduce the crimes, they just don't want the people to get out of their hands and it affect the remaining 99.99% of people for nothing. We can't do anything about that because that's how the government always wanted to keep their citizens and casinos can't do anything apart from agreeing whatever regulations are there comply.

If you look at it from the good side, the stipulation of KYC is very good and it is quite effective in reducing money laundering crimes that use gambling as their hiding place, and yes on the other hand the government can also protect its people in every casino that operates, and the most beneficial thing is that the state can have additional revenue from the legalization of KYC in every casino, because with KYC required, the public can assume that casinos that do not apply it are considered illegitimate and do not comply with government regulations then it can be assumed that such casinos are illegal (seen from the public view).

Hmm, it's all down to the tax revenue and money launderers won't be really using digital footprints in my opinion they have better ways to do it and more easier too cause there's organized sector for all over the world to do such tasks and this AML regulations will just make the inconvenience to the regular users who just wanted to Kill some time and even when they regulated casinos they won't be going after every tax evaders only for the big amount.

it's not on the user but on the casino itself, the state gets taxes from the casino not chasing players who have a lot of money in gambling.

[Rockstarguy]

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace.

Before KYC became a thing, some criminals have used the casinos to do their dirty bidding; KYC has made it all difficult, and some criminals are still not aware of it.

 As news of how KYC helped in the apprehension of a criminal who tried using casino services for illegal use has come out, the news will spread,  and more criminals will become aware that Casino's and gambling platforms are tightening up their security, and it will start becoming a no-go area for criminals when they are looking for how to get their money without giving away their identity.

Criminals using casino as advantage to commit crimes I think this is something that have been their even long time ago. Casinos they know the reason why they require kyc from gamblers, atleast it will help their best in reducing Criminal activities and to get the details of customers that they are dealing with.

Kyc is important for gamblers so that if casino company gets to know anything phishing from their customers it can be use against them. If their are no kyc and gamblers sees the casino as what they can use for crime, and if the government finds out it can be a serious problem for the casino that will even affect the company from operating. From the story of OP, if not for kyc getting the murderer won't have be possible.

[Onyeeze]

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace.

Before KYC became a thing, some criminals have used the casinos to do their dirty bidding; KYC has made it all difficult, and some criminals are still not aware of it.

 As news of how KYC helped in the apprehension of a criminal who tried using casino services for illegal use has come out, the news will spread,  and more criminals will become aware that Casino's and gambling platforms are tightening up their security, and it will start becoming a no-go area for criminals when they are looking for how to get their money without giving away their identity.

Criminals using casino as advantage to commit crimes I think this is something that have been their even long time ago. Casinos they know the reason why they require kyc from gamblers, atleast it will help their best in reducing Criminal activities and to get the details of customers that they are dealing with.

Kyc is important for gamblers so that if casino company gets to know anything phishing from their customers it can be use against them. If their are no kyc and gamblers sees the casino as what they can use for crime, and if the government finds out it can be a serious problem for the casino that will even affect the company from operating. From the story of OP, if not for kyc getting the murderer won't have be possible.

this is one of the reasons I said that casino is good to be having a kyc verification because the kyc help to detect whoever that want to participate in any of the casino platform with scam methods so with you those of your documents that is attached to the platform you can be easily be detected when you have done anything wrong but the particular casino website so I don't condemn the facts that we should not turn our kyc verification before accessing any casino platform if how we are casino owners you must undergo through my protocols of verification before I'll be able to allow you to participate in my platform

[coolcoinz]

What an idiot, I'm lost for words. I know this shouldn't be a thing to joke about because a girl was killed, but this dude...

A 23-year-old philosophy student

In case you didn't know, the word philosophy means love of wisdom. So the guy studied wisdom, but was dumb and greedy like the worst of them.
What was he thinking? That if he tells them who he is they won't come knocking?

As for the KYC, I'd still say that 1 such situation doesn't make it good and legitimie the process. It's like if you were to ban gasoline because once a year someone makes a molotov cocktail and burns down a house and now that won't happen, so the ban was a good idea.

[Mahanton]

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace.

Before KYC became a thing, some criminals have used the casinos to do their dirty bidding; KYC has made it all difficult, and some criminals are still not aware of it.

 As news of how KYC helped in the apprehension of a criminal who tried using casino services for illegal use has come out, the news will spread,  and more criminals will become aware that Casino's and gambling platforms are tightening up their security, and it will start becoming a no-go area for criminals when they are looking for how to get their money without giving away their identity.

Criminals using casino as advantage to commit crimes I think this is something that have been their even long time ago. Casinos they know the reason why they require kyc from gamblers, atleast it will help their best in reducing Criminal activities and to get the details of customers that they are dealing with.

Kyc is important for gamblers so that if casino company gets to know anything phishing from their customers it can be use against them. If their are no kyc and gamblers sees the casino as what they can use for crime, and if the government finds out it can be a serious problem for the casino that will even affect the company from operating. From the story of OP, if not for kyc getting the murderer won't have be possible.

this is one of the reasons I said that casino is good to be having a kyc verification because the kyc help to detect whoever that want to participate in any of the casino platform with scam methods so with you those of your documents that is attached to the platform you can be easily be detected when you have done anything wrong but the particular casino website so I don't condemn the facts that we should not turn our kyc verification before accessing any casino platform if how we are casino owners you must undergo through my protocols of verification before I'll be able to allow you to participate in my platform

You do know that this crypto community does really have that highly frowned upon in speaking about KYC on which just like others been saying that we do want to deal up with things without having any involved of information verification or simply KYC because we do really value our anonymity and besides this is the main reason on why crypto gambling has become that popular just because it do really give out that chance for you to play anonymously which is really that totally opposite on what we are experiencing with centralized platforms like on fiat casinos online, but now we are seeing that licensing or simply centralizing these places is already that happening on which crypto people would be seeing this as a bad thing but actually there is really that having that positive too on which just like into these cases.

Who would really be on their right minds on trying out to exploit ransom money on a centralized platform? One complaint or having some issues then your funds would really be locked up. How much more into this kind of
certain case on which this one involves murder? You would really be definitely be finding yourself on such big problem but well that criminal serves him right. He had caught because he was just that too stupid
on dealing up with things and its good that he had been caught.

[Lida93]

Wherever there’s a crime, there’ll always be a trail that’ll lead people back to the criminal, no matter how much or how hard he tries to cover his tracks, he’ll still be caught if people can only look well, I’m sure he thought using a gambling account would cover his tracks and that’s why he didn’t use a bank account.

No I don't agree on this because not all the times crimes are committed that the perpetrators of the very crime's are caught, we have had murder case's where there were no trail on the assailants unlike this subject in the op he left a trail behind the very moment he passed the  KYC requested from the sportbook company, if he hadn't done the KYC am sure he wouldn't have been caught but he was desperate for the money and stupid at same time. Good a thing he was caught anyway.

Ever heard of the phrase, “ain’t nothing hidden under the sun”? To what extent do you think this is true?

A popular phrase that any enlightened man should know.

Whether true or not, it doesn't apply in all situation.

I’ll still repeat it again, it’s impossible to cover every trails of a crime, so if the perpetrators of a crime isn’t caught or apprehended and convicted, then it means either the detectives are not professionals in their job or they decide to conceal the crime, we’ve seen multiple occasions that powerful people commits a crime and due to their power and affluence, the crimes are concealed by the very people who are supposed to bring the perpetrators to book, or they simply don’t have the resources to higher professionals in the field to help unravel the crime, this is the only ways perpetrators can escape, else no matter how long it takes, there’ll always be a leak that’ll bring the case back to life and bring the criminals to book.

You are looking at what I have explained from a different dimension, probably you don't want to be objective about our different views here. I want to make the record straight here, not all crimes that the perpetrators of the crime at eventually caught and brought to justice, and not because of any form of concealable act by the law enforcement body in charge or any higher authority but because the perpetrators meticulously left no trail for the security agent to start with in investigation. Have you ever heard of organized crime?

[traderethereum]

How can be possibly use a dead girl's ID? Remember he has already killed the girl before demanding ransome from the girls family, and also remember that casino kyc verification does not end at just submitting ID card, you often will be asked to do a live verification as well where the casino kyc system will take a live picture/video of your self holding the ID card you submitted, to make sure the ID really belongs to you.

And also interesting to know is that, in this part of the world, people don't go about with their ID cards, except people in the force and maybe cooperate workers in some big firms, so, this to tell you that there is 100 percent that even the girl wasn't there with her ID, even if he would have used it.

If he find the girl's ID before or after he kills her, he can use that ID to verify his account but that will depends on how strictly the casino rules. If the casino require him to send a verification by online, that will be difficult for him to trick that casino.
We can only say that he is not smart enough to ask for the money to send into his private wallet but in his betting account so the police can track him down and get him before he use that money. It gives time for polices to know where he lived and go to that place to arrested him.
How come people don't go about with their ID cards? Because that ID cards is important for them so when something bad happen to them, police can know where they live and tells to their family so they can do something to the victim.

[Oasisman]

A 23-year-old philosophy student

In case you didn't know, the word philosophy means love of wisdom. So the guy studied wisdom, but was dumb and greedy like the worst of them.
What was he thinking? That if he tells them who he is they won't come knocking?

Well, there's a saying that too much of everything is not good. Or maybe he studied philosophy in a wrong way, or he's just simply consumed by his addiction and it made him do illegal things to acquire money.
But, killing someone, who happens to be his friend, I think he has serious mental problem and it is more than just gambling addiction.
Not so many people can tolerate violence.

[Taskford]

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace.

Before KYC became a thing, some criminals have used the casinos to do their dirty bidding; KYC has made it all difficult, and some criminals are still not aware of it.

 As news of how KYC helped in the apprehension of a criminal who tried using casino services for illegal use has come out, the news will spread,  and more criminals will become aware that Casino's and gambling platforms are tightening up their security, and it will start becoming a no-go area for criminals when they are looking for how to get their money without giving away their identity.

Criminals using casino as advantage to commit crimes I think this is something that have been their even long time ago. Casinos they know the reason why they require kyc from gamblers, atleast it will help their best in reducing Criminal activities and to get the details of customers that they are dealing with.

Kyc is important for gamblers so that if casino company gets to know anything phishing from their customers it can be use against them. If their are no kyc and gamblers sees the casino as what they can use for crime, and if the government finds out it can be a serious problem for the casino that will even affect the company from operating. From the story of OP, if not for kyc getting the murderer won't have be possible.

this is one of the reasons I said that casino is good to be having a kyc verification because the kyc help to detect whoever that want to participate in any of the casino platform with scam methods so with you those of your documents that is attached to the platform you can be easily be detected when you have done anything wrong but the particular casino website so I don't condemn the facts that we should not turn our kyc verification before accessing any casino platform if how we are casino owners you must undergo through my protocols of verification before I'll be able to allow you to participate in my platform

Some may not agree that this implementation done by the casino but if they look at the bright side of protection that it can bring to them for sure that they provably want to do it especially if the casino asked is reputable one. It also avoid money laundering cases or any other related financial frauds happening. So instead of thinking about negative about KYC implementation maybe best to know the reason first on why the casino implement this.

I understand that some people give reason that they really up for their privacy that's why they are using crypto. But since every reputable casino is now regulated then expect that KYC verification will be asked to their costumers.

[Russlenat]

I understand that some people give reason that they really up for their privacy that's why they are using crypto. But since every reputable casino is now regulated then expect that KYC verification will be asked to their costumers.

In that sense, using a Web3 casino makes sense. Since they're under DeFi, if regulation comes, it won’t be fully regulated. I'm not suggesting this to evade any laws, but to maintain privacy while gambling. For now, Web3 casinos seem like the best solution to achieve that.

[Smartvirus]

Using the document he submitted, law enforcement agents were able to track him and he was finally arrested. His arrest was made easy because of a KYC request from the gambling platform.

Source: Why I killed 18-year-old female church member – OOU student

This is just one of the many uses but, it wouldn’t bring the deceased girl back however, it would bring some closure to the deceased family, knowing that, the perpetrator of this hideous crime didn’t go un-apprehended and unpunished. Obviously, the kidnapper was dumb, that’s how dumb you find these set of persons who aren’t willing to do legit jobs and earn good money.

One thing that is there to note is that, your deposits are actually studied and when the behavior from deposit to gambling habits begins to alter, it raises a flag and brings attention. These T&C and means to identifying patterns does works and it’s frankly a good thing.

Sorry for the next family that would be missing this individual but, his obviously a danger to the society and should be allowed to face the full force of the law.

[Cryptomultiplier]

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace.

Before KYC became a thing, some criminals have used the casinos to do their dirty bidding; KYC has made it all difficult, and some criminals are still not aware of it.

 As news of how KYC helped in the apprehension of a criminal who tried using casino services for illegal use has come out, the news will spread,  and more criminals will become aware that Casino's and gambling platforms are tightening up their security, and it will start becoming a no-go area for criminals when they are looking for how to get their money without giving away their identity.

Criminals using casino as advantage to commit crimes I think this is something that have been their even long time ago. Casinos they know the reason why they require kyc from gamblers, atleast it will help their best in reducing Criminal activities and to get the details of customers that they are dealing with.

Kyc is important for gamblers so that if casino company gets to know anything phishing from their customers it can be use against them. If their are no kyc and gamblers sees the casino as what they can use for crime, and if the government finds out it can be a serious problem for the casino that will even affect the company from operating. From the story of OP, if not for kyc getting the murderer won't have be possible.

Due to reasons of failing to adhere to kyc rules as mandated by the government is a why, Binance top man was arrested and made to serve some jail time. He was however released yesterday and am sure it is just an example of how the law would react to any gambling or casino site that do not use kyc verification to have details of users on their platforms.

Anonymity is a strong enemy of the government and then there is the case of criminals using the absence of kyc on a site to demand ransom that is untraceable or when opening an account to launder money into.
Kyc verification on a casino site also does more to discourage gambling addiction and track wins to their main owners so as to avoid mistaken identity or otherwise.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

People do sees up KYC to be a bad thing but just like we do all know that it does have its positive effects or things that could bring out on which same on this case then crimes could really be solved out
on the moment that such crucial informations would really be known and this is really that something important. It is really just that this community is really that highly against KYC
and thats why they dont really that prefer it out but on cases or situations like this then it is really something important.

Generally speaking, KYC has many risk that is attached to it and the risks attached to it is not something I will begin to discuss now because it has already been talked about so many times on this forum. But there's a saying that's "everything that has disadvantages, also have a little or large advantage too. " Despite the risk of KYC, it has also help in capturing some culprits, just like the way the victims in the OP was identified.

Still, many gamblers are against it, and it's a fact. Right?

As much as possible, we want to be like cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin where our identities are private. I will never disagree with that. But, this is different, we will have to follow the rules, and anti-money laundering is one of the rules that gambling sites are following.
We don't have to hate them because they didn't make that rule, it's the government where their base is erected which is why they will have to pay some money to continue their business.
In a third world country, it's difficult to understand this. People keeps on making new stores even without permits and the government cannot even identify them anymore. The same with other gambling sites that will allow you to gamble as a newbies without KYC but will give you a hard time to withdraw.

Yes, for most of the platforms that ask for KYC, it's in compliance to the regulatory authority that grants them licence of operation and they don't they can't operate without it, so it's left for an individual to accept the terms and conditions of those platforms, either do their KYC or leave and never use the platform.

Casino doesn't force customer to do KYC, they always have it on their ToS, stating that they have right to ask for KYC any time.

[GeorgeJohn]

I understand that some people give reason that they really up for their privacy that's why they are using crypto. But since every reputable casino is now regulated then expect that KYC verification will be asked to their costumers.

for safety of casino customers need to be verified before using casino, I don't know the reason so many of othe do emphasize on privacy when you ask them verified their documents,

I have not seen anything illegal for us to have done our KYC. Everytime we talk about kyc you most see someone will Lament of privacy i dont know the reason why some persons is afraid of KYC-verification, people that hide identity most, is people that's into illegal business such as money laundering, if you're not into illegal you will not be afraid of reviewing your documents to casino platform, since my stays in online registration and business I have not seen were a particular platform mostly casino platform released someone credentials to anybody, so I don't know why  people is Afraid of uploading their identity to casinos sites

[Lanatsa]

People do sees up KYC to be a bad thing but just like we do all know that it does have its positive effects or things that could bring out on which same on this case then crimes could really be solved out
on the moment that such crucial informations would really be known and this is really that something important. It is really just that this community is really that highly against KYC
and thats why they dont really that prefer it out but on cases or situations like this then it is really something important.

Generally speaking, KYC has many risk that is attached to it and the risks attached to it is not something I will begin to discuss now because it has already been talked about so many times on this forum. But there's a saying that's "everything that has disadvantages, also have a little or large advantage too. " Despite the risk of KYC, it has also help in capturing some culprits, just like the way the victims in the OP was identified.

Still, many gamblers are against it, and it's a fact. Right?

As much as possible, we want to be like cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin where our identities are private. I will never disagree with that. But, this is different, we will have to follow the rules, and anti-money laundering is one of the rules that gambling sites are following.
We don't have to hate them because they didn't make that rule, it's the government where their base is erected which is why they will have to pay some money to continue their business.
In a third world country, it's difficult to understand this. People keeps on making new stores even without permits and the government cannot even identify them anymore. The same with other gambling sites that will allow you to gamble as a newbies without KYC but will give you a hard time to withdraw.

Yes, for most of the platforms that ask for KYC, it's in compliance to the regulatory authority that grants them licence of operation and they don't they can't operate without it, so it's left for an individual to accept the terms and conditions of those platforms, either do their KYC or leave and never use the platform.

Casino doesn't force customer to do KYC, they always have it on their ToS, stating that they have right to ask for KYC any time.

It would really be that totally depends on you and you arent that forced to do the KYC stuff and just like on what you have said that they are really just that trying out to comply on whats been told
because they wont really be able to operate if they wouldnt really be trying out to follow. Wayback on which casinos are really that having no KYC and this what makes them that popular but now
we are seeing that those old platforms had become that trying to make out such integration and this is something thats expected to happen because we do know that in businesses such as this
on where huge money or fund is really that gets involved then its not something that could pass through governments eyes. This is where they would be putting up some licensing or whatever
they could put up into.

Just like on what you have said that we do still have the choice whether we would really be that dealing up with these sites or would really be finding for another place. Despite of such changes,
there are still those sites or platforms whose not really that asking for some KYC and you could still be able to play but somehow majority of them does have that kind of chance
to ask out some KYC on situational basis neither because of some violation or some big wins.

[Kavelj22]

I understand that some people give reason that they really up for their privacy that's why they are using crypto. But since every reputable casino is now regulated then expect that KYC verification will be asked to their costumers.

In that sense, using a Web3 casino makes sense. Since they're under DeFi, if regulation comes, it won’t be fully regulated. I'm not suggesting this to evade any laws, but to maintain privacy while gambling. For now, Web3 casinos seem like the best solution to achieve that.

While decentralized casinos support privacy, they have some shortcomings that make them not the preferred choice even for those who care about maintaining their privacy. Compared to centralized casinos, the number of games available in Web3 casinos is still limited, and may not meet all user preferences. Also, not all Web3 casino projects are completely transparent, and it may be difficult for users to verify the credibility of the project, especially since many users may find it difficult to understand the technologies used in this type of casino, such as blockchain and crypto wallets, which may result in making mistakes. Also, although blockchain technology provides a high level of security, there is always the risk of hacking or cyber attacks, especially by following the constant emergence of new threats that are characterized by effectiveness and accuracy. Users will always prefer safety over privacy and this is why most users still prefer centralized platforms.

[nimogsm]

KYC is important in fishing out those that are abusing a set down protocol of a gambling platform, some may not be happy about the way of how all this is being run because they wanted to be free of having their information's on a central server, in case of being track or leaking some vital information out in their absence, but this same KYC could be the means of getting one secured from being attacked from criminals as said.

This is also not a panacea, but still a minimum level of protection for a personal account. Often, attackers buy other people's accounts and launder money through them. There are often advertisements for buying and selling accounts, so this area is popular today and this can create problems for the person whose documents were verified. But for an honest player, this is additional protection against hacking or phishing attempts on his account.