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September 28, 2024, 12:05:31 PM
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It depends on individual differences. Most people will preferably chose a betting app that requires to login in each section they try to bet as a way of keeping the app secure and safe from third party interference. You know most people can bump in to your phone and decide to check on your gambling app, if they discover that your app is not secure, they can withdraw your money without your consent. Most people Also prefer leaving the app always logging at any moment to login at ease and it might be exposed to hack. So it's a matter of choice.

If not to maximizing and preserving gamblers privacy there wouldn't be any need why any betting app will always require log in for each session but though it is optional for any to choose or the kind of gambling platforms with such interface or not but the truth must that security of our privacy should be hold at a very high esteemed because at must times leaving our phone with our much of security makes it prone and vulnerable to intruders that might mean harm to us, sometimes it can even be the very person we trusted that will abuse such privilege if given.
All the gambling sites that I have used that have announcement thread on this forum make use of app 2FA which you can download on your device for use. It is advised that the 2FA setup that you have should be on another device. If it is on another device, the attackers can have access to your account but will not have access to withdraw your money.

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September 28, 2024, 12:11:25 PM
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I noticed that it was easier for me to gamble on a site that was very easy for me to log into, most probably because i feel freer with leaving some funds in my wallet for occassional gambling and because I could make a bet at any moment because of new information or just to keep at being busy in an uncomfortable situation.

 Although some other reasons could contribute as to why gamblers change their betting site to other preference, but could it be possible that the difficulty or ease to log into ones betting account, be enough reason for any online gambler to change their preference to another gambling site?

* Or could the constant login request or login interface design, be enough reason for a gambler to choose another platform or to have only a limit of a particular money, nothing more or less in ones account ?



I think almost all casino focuses on making the registration/logging in very simple for all users. Because it is the first thing someone encounters when they enters a casino. Yeah, easy logging in will make it users who wants to quick gamble return more frequently. But the casino needs to make sure that despite of having a simple signup/sign in, the accounts are still very much secure.  And yeah, to answer your question, the difficulty or ease to log into ones account does affect the experience of a gambler. Imagine how annoying it would have to be to keep on logging in after each session or after few hours. But I doubt there is any casino that would log you out due to inactivity.
I have a sporty bet account that logs me out of the account whenever I fail to log in perhaps within a duration 4 -7days and it makes me know that with frequent login and participating gambling activities, the site remains open based on the activities of the user/gambler.

Couldn't KYC verification also be an issue that makes a gambling site to always log out users ones they have left the site dormant or inactive for a while, no matter how short or long the duration is?

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September 28, 2024, 12:21:44 PM
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All the gambling sites that I have used that have announcement thread on this forum make use of app 2FA which you can download on your device for use. It is advised that the 2FA setup that you have should be on another device. If it is on another device, the attackers can have access to your account but will not have access to withdraw your money.

Most of the casino nowadays requires 2FA verification during the login which means hacker can’t access an account unless he has the 2FA. I think only few casino and most of them are too old that only apply 2FA on the withdrawal not on login page.

2FA is really good form of security since there’s a reported incident in the past that someone access his casino account with 2FA while the hacker intentionally lose all the balance left in the casino because the 2FA protected only the withdrawal.

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September 28, 2024, 12:24:47 PM
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I agree. But at the same time, I also hate to log-in every time. Once in a day like at very first time on each day, would be better for me. But, this is definitely not a criteria for me to chose or stay away. There are multiple other factors in consideration while choosing a casino to play with.
If the casino can give an option for the person to select how long they are going to stay logged in, it will really be beneficial not just to the casino owners but also to the gamblers because they have a choice to make rather than passing through that stress, as there are some platforms where each time you click on refresh or leave the page to another place, it will automatically log you out. 
This is a great idea. But how will they intend to implement it. I have seen some casinos that kept a Boolean option for users to always choose to stay logged in. I think that settles it. There is no need for them to start adding more information in the sign in UI asking users how long they intend to stay logged in after a complete session.

However, if your suggestion is taking more seriously than the only way that the idea can be implemented is during the onboarding process. The first time the user is signing up in the platform. They can include a next step that would ask them how long they want to stay signed in after a complete session. I also think that this does not only implies in gambling platform alone, but other platform as it is a global concern on web users.

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September 28, 2024, 12:27:20 PM
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It certainly does, I remember one of the reputed casino from bitcointalk has kind of buggy when I tried to login in even in the recent days so guess what I never tried to deposit any money in there and what if people had similar thought as me when they tried the site too.

Sleek experience is important that engage the user to participate and I will use the remember me or always logged in from trusted device so it kind of important for me personally that logging in everytime but I am sure I won't leave any balance there for someone to drain if they chance to make it. Cheesy

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September 28, 2024, 01:48:19 PM
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Well ease in access to a casino can contribute towards a growth of a casino with more users since they can easily access the casino though I wouldn't call it constant login (that's more like an unexpired user logs....)
However, easy access to a casino doesn't  mean a good security and long procedure doesn't guarantee good security either, it mostly depends on the casino itself (their implementations and likes )  but casino these days has extra /multiple options to secure your account most especially  whenever you want to make a transaction( 2FA seems to be popular), users can pick out of those choice apart from their normal password to signin. Then some could use the remember me option to set a token that doesn't expire or has a specific max-date of expiration,some even set it automatically and this will eliminate sign in until the token expire... so once it expires you can always do the main procedure of the sign in process and maybe authentication or whatever you choosed.



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September 28, 2024, 02:58:37 PM
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However, easy access to a casino doesn't  mean a good security and long procedure doesn't guarantee good security either
Most people don't even care with security, what people want is convenience. Long procedure do guarantee good security, imagine you're asked to fill 2FA, email and phone number codes, moreover if they only allow to access with the same device, this proves if you're high likely the original owner.

Most of the casino nowadays requires 2FA verification during the login which means hacker can’t access an account unless he has the 2FA. I think only few casino and most of them are too old that only apply 2FA on the withdrawal not on login page.
Are you sure? what I know most casinos still not requires 2FA verification, even in centralized exchanges.

But, you can prove me wrong too, can you mention 10 casinos that requires 2FA verification during login?


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September 28, 2024, 03:15:48 PM
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I can’t relate with the idea of constant login before accessing the site, I don’t think this is necessary since it can’t prevent scammers from hacking your account. I don’t know if anyone here has experience same issue when a casino indicate a user password is weak and gives information whenever someone login with another device, these are the common features I know can prevent hack if you’re the type that keeps money in the casino.
If the casino system values privacy why not ask customers to generate a key number for deposit because most user’s passwords can be lengthy and not everyone remember things quickly, I will always prefer easy login.

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September 29, 2024, 07:39:47 AM
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All the gambling sites that I have used that have announcement thread on this forum make use of app 2FA which you can download on your device for use. It is advised that the 2FA setup that you have should be on another device. If it is on another device, the attackers can have access to your account but will not have access to withdraw your money.
Most of the casino nowadays requires 2FA verification during the login which means hacker can’t access an account unless he has the 2FA. I think only few casino and most of them are too old that only apply 2FA on the withdrawal not on login page.

2FA is really good form of security since there’s a reported incident in the past that someone access his casino account with 2FA while the hacker intentionally lose all the balance left in the casino because the 2FA protected only the withdrawal.
Indeed, most casinos now implement 2FA to be able to better maintain and provide security to their customers accounts, actually this is not complicated because 2FA is kind of verification that is quite short and can be completed quickly by everyone when logging in to access the gambling site.
I started to think and wonder about why there are gamblers who are too concerned with the level of speed and ease of logging into gambling sites, almost all gambling sites have time that is actually quite short for gamblers to log in with the accounts they have.
Moreover, all of this will not actually affect anything because the goals is also the same to enter to play or bet and whether it takes longer or shorter to log in, it will not provide any significant advantages or disadvantages.

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Indeed, most casinos now implement 2FA to be able to better maintain and provide security to their customers accounts, actually this is not complicated because 2FA is kind of verification that is quite short and can be completed quickly by everyone when logging in to access the gambling site.
After a gambler login on the gambling site the first time, what I have noticed on all the gambling sites that I enabled 2FA is that if you are using the same device and the same browser, it will not request login again not to talk of requesting for 2FA OTP. The site will continue to automatically login the user anytime he accesses the gambling site. Only when the 2FA OTP is needed is when the gambler wants to withdraw money from the gambling site. When login will be required again is when the gambler change the browser or device or clear the browser storage and history or when the gambler has not login for many weeks or months.

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September 29, 2024, 09:34:49 AM
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I no longer play on gambling sites that are quite difficult to log into my account, and also this site takes a long time to load the display so it is quite annoying and uncomfortable sometimes this site will exit without me pressing the logout button, and I am quite sure that any gambler will find it difficult to trust their funds on a gambling site like that, you can see right now there is one big old casino that many users complain about because it is difficult to log in so that ease of login is also one of the references for players to stay or not, but ease of login must also be added with 2-FA this will make it easy for us to log into our accounts and also feel safe leaving funds on that site.

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September 29, 2024, 10:08:12 AM
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Indeed, most casinos now implement 2FA to be able to better maintain and provide security to their customers accounts, actually this is not complicated because 2FA is kind of verification that is quite short and can be completed quickly by everyone when logging in to access the gambling site.
After a gambler login on the gambling site the first time, what I have noticed on all the gambling sites that I enabled 2FA is that if you are using the same device and the same browser, it will not request login again not to talk of requesting for 2FA OTP. The site will continue to automatically login the user anytime he accesses the gambling site. Only when the 2FA OTP is needed is when the gambler wants to withdraw money from the gambling site. When login will be required again is when the gambler change the browser or device or clear the browser storage and history or when the gambler has not login for many weeks or months.

But I think that it depends on the cookie settings in your browser. I configured mine to delete all the cookies every time I close my browser, so I have to write again the credentials every time I want to log in any website.

If we take it to the extreme then it is evident that, if we compare the barrier that supposes logging in a website every time you want to access vs an app available all the time in you pocket for example and which doesn't need any credentials but your face or fingerprint, I think that the more seamless the process the easier for the casino to hook you.

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September 29, 2024, 10:23:14 AM
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But I think that it depends on the cookie settings in your browser. I configured mine to delete all the cookies every time I close my browser, so I have to write again the credentials every time I want to log in any website.
If your browser is configured to be deleting cookies, definitely password will not be saved on the browser and that will make the browser to let the site request for login details anytime you want to access the site. This is not how browsers are by default, you set it and you should not be surprised if the site is requesting for login details from you anytime you want to access the site. This topic is not related to this. Not the browser setting that this topic is related to but about the gambling website to let their site demand for login details anytime their users wants to access the site again.

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but could it be possible that the difficulty or ease to log into ones betting account, be enough reason for any online gambler to change their preference to another gambling site?
Yes, I can because it is contributory and I am a living witness of who does it. If a casino is not always responsive whenever I want to log in or it is such that maintains its system too frequently or it is such that makes me undergo the unnecessary stress of completing more than one security task before I gain access to my account, I may switch to another regardless of whether or not it's my primary casino platform.

I would rather switch between platforms than be annoyed by any casino.

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* Or could the constant login request or login interface design, be enough reason for a gambler to choose another platform or to have only a limit of a particular money, nothing more or less in ones account ?
This should not cause fear in dealing with them for the safety of my money if they've built that financial trust. The only issue is how they are stressing me, I don't like such platforms, so I can't be loyal.

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September 29, 2024, 11:01:53 AM
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I can’t relate with the idea of constant login before accessing the site, I don’t think this is necessary since it can’t prevent scammers from hacking your account. I don’t know if anyone here has experience same issue when a casino indicate a user password is weak and gives information whenever someone login with another device, these are the common features I know can prevent hack if you’re the type that keeps money in the casino.
If the casino system values privacy why not ask customers to generate a key number for deposit because most user’s passwords can be lengthy and not everyone remember things quickly, I will always prefer easy login.
Google has that feature now and recently I just received an email that someone has the same password as mine so they recommended changing it to something stronger.
But I have not yet bumped into a gambling site that does the same although I had registered to so many gambling sites. All that I see are recommendations for password strengths before you register and that's it.

I think they should do the same as what Google did but it will be a lot of work. Still, that will prevent hackers and the gambler won't need to log in over and over just so he could play. Also, I think we should take advantage of the fingerprint log-in because that's another layer of protection for our accounts. If it's available.

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But I think that it depends on the cookie settings in your browser. I configured mine to delete all the cookies every time I close my browser, so I have to write again the credentials every time I want to log in any website.
If your browser is configured to be deleting cookies, definitely password will not be saved on the browser and that will make the browser to let the site request for login details anytime you want to access the site. This is not how browsers are by default, you set it and you should not be surprised if the site is requesting for login details from you anytime you want to access the site. This topic is not related to this. Not the browser setting that this topic is related to but about the gambling website to let their site demand for login details anytime their users wants to access the site again.
Totally depends on the situation on which there would really be some log-in information on which i do want to save up the passwords and its log in details on the moment that i do access the site
and there are accounts on which i dont really like for those informations to be kept or stored. It would really be just that depending or according into your preference because there would really be those people who do exchange up their security just for the benefit on having that fast and comfortable way of doing gambling specially in speaking about on instant access or could immediately be able to play without any hiccups
or with those log in kind of hassles. Its not really that bad on having this kind feature on which this really that secures out since we are talking about money on here but there are really those
moments or times that we do get pissed or really having this kind of reaction that it is really that too much.

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I dont think so theres an impact with the login because most of the platform requires this and there's a session expiration so this prevent the user leaves their account to login for security purposes and prevent issue of hacking but most of them still keep remember the password so you don't need to worry most of the browser have this and I guess no problem just quite hassle or just lazy to do the login just my cents. Personally I do added another layer of 2FA which a new security of login than losing my funds because keeping it logged in on the casino.

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If not to maximizing and preserving gamblers privacy there wouldn't be any need why any betting app will always require log in for each session but though it is optional for any to choose or the kind of gambling platforms with such interface or not but the truth must that security of our privacy should be hold at a very high esteemed because at must times leaving our phone with our much of security makes it prone and vulnerable to intruders that might mean harm to us,
Yes, it is optional only for some sites. This is why we have that 'remember me' message with a small box that needs to be ticked in the login page. There are still sites where that feature is not working because even if I ticked the small box, I am still being logged out every time I visit them. I think that many phone users do always have a PIN, password, and other security methods enabled on their phones, so we are still sure that we are safe from intruders even if we leave our phones unattended.

sometimes it can even be the very person we trusted that will abuse such privilege if given.
Really? Dang that's scary but I think you got a point because we can easily trust them anyways with our belongings or password, etc.. and they may get curious one day to open our accounts without our consent especially if they got involved in activities like gambling or something that is highly addictive.

All the gambling sites that I have used that have announcement thread on this forum make use of app 2FA which you can download on your device for use. It is advised that the 2FA setup that you have should be on another device.
I think a 2FA can also be a code delivered to our emails or phone numbers and we don't need to download them anymore. The 2FA that you mean that needs a download, must be the Google Authenticator. I find this one hassle, so I don't use it if it's not mandatory.

If it is on another device, the attackers can have access to your account but will not have access to withdraw your money.
What do you mean by this? And what if the phone had a lock? And then our financial accounts has too? If about the betting accounts, some of them can ask us to log in again but it is not easy because we will be needing to re-enter our password again. They can also ask a 2FA during logging in.

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The most important thing is that such an easy way to enter the gambling platform is safe. I am ready to enter sites by entering a lot of passwords and data, but if I am sure that my data is safe, then it will not be difficult for me. And there are sites and casinos where you can log in with your Google account.
I do not know how safe it is, but I always do not like it when a window appears with information that such a casino will be provided with a photo of my profile, name, and e-mail. I do not like this.

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October 02, 2024, 12:01:05 PM
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But I doubt there is any casino that would log you out due to inactivity.
I have a sporty bet account that logs me out of the account whenever I fail to log in perhaps within a duration 4 -7days and it makes me know that with frequent login and participating gambling activities, the site remains open based on the activities of the user/gambler.

Couldn't KYC verification also be an issue that makes a gambling site to always log out users ones they have left the site dormant or inactive for a while, no matter how short or long the duration is?
If I have that experienced, I will not use that site and will search for the other site. You can report it to support services so they can follow your problem and hopefully, that will not happen in the future especially to other members.

If members left the site dormant or inactive, the site require them to activate their account by asking for a help from support services. But maybe they can enter to their account without do that so that will depends on each casino. But maybe some casino can log you out from their site due to inactivity and for security reason.

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