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September 26, 2024, 06:53:05 AM
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If you are going to make a thread, at least participate in the thread more than making the initial post.
To be on the safe side, I’ll just reply to your comment.  Tongue

I won’t be replying much to this thread since it’s more like a survey, and every answer is valid.

I'm curious to hear how you determined that there are these two ways for users to decide who to reward with merit.  Smiley
I’ve read a lot before that could be considered complaints or observations that some users won’t give merits to others they don’t like, or they have favorites to whom they always give merits...maybe because they know each other in real life or are part of the same group. It’s nothing new, and there’s nothing wrong with that as long as the post is deserving of merit. Even if it’s not, there aren’t really any rules in the forum stating it's a violation. In short, merit is like freedom.

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September 26, 2024, 07:03:52 AM
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I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.

The correct one should be sending merit based on the post I read. I guess other would agree with me. But you should know why some people check profile before sending merits. I believe there are a lot of sold accounts, spammers, merit abusers, alt account around. Some forum members does not want to help these kind of forum members by sending merits. Even though a guy deserve merit for a specific post, I would still ignore him if he is a shit poster in general or a abuser. I have suspected a couple of local forum members of abuaing merits and I refrain sending them merits. If I feel a user does not have alt accounts, does not abuse merit, I am happy to send him a merit if his posts worth it.

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September 26, 2024, 07:16:48 AM
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In my opinion, that is probably the best policy.

I read the post first.  If I think it's novel information, or otherwise hard to come by, I consider it meritable.

But before I give merit, I would check the account name.  I don't believe in rewarding active scammers if they happen to hear something interesting and post it.  
Nobody should be actively rewarding scammers with merits or anything else but the same applies known account-farmers and spammers too.

Having said that there are far too many cliques within the forum where members have probably given merits when they read the name of the member but that does not make it tantamount to anything untoward.

What one member could conclude as a post not worthy of a second glance could be deemed as excellent by another whether based on the post or the account history or even both. Maybe that is why there are several merit sources to have a wider scope of understanding to what is actually being posted.

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September 26, 2024, 11:35:00 AM
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Personally, there’s nothing wrong with whichever method you prefer, but I'm curious, and I'm sure many others, especially newbies, would like to know some tips. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, especially from merit sources and those who consistently give and receive merits, even if they aren’t merit sources. Newbies are also welcome to share their thoughts here----this is an open discussion for everyone!
Merits shouldn't be tied to any limitations provided that the information are useful then there is need for such person to receive merits except for someone newbies who doesn't put efforts in making post rather creating posts that looks like merits begging or, trying to create similar post others has already created. Like i can see, there has been a particular method by some newbies creating post in other to catch people attentions when I see such I just skip.

But writing an article or an essay doesn't implies how quality a post should be because some times i finds it very difficult to sit down an began to read those lengthy articles instead of the poster to sum it and give just few words to enable reader understand it fully at summary sections.

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September 27, 2024, 10:21:30 AM
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This is a forum for active interaction to share what we know about cryptocurrency, so I prioritize the post but the post should not be coming from AIs so if the post is just too good to be true and I have doubt on it, I check the account history before meriting.
Many of the posts I've merited are from posters with which I am very familiar, so I have no problem when giving merits.

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September 27, 2024, 03:38:29 PM
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Giving merit based on profile is wrong and merit should be given on the basis of quality and not quantity. And I also know that for those merit sources who asked the users to submit application check the profile and the posts submitted to know if it is quality enough to be merited. I give merit from the quality and good good contributed posts. Though everyone has their own way of giving merit. For those who are not merit source also have their criteria for sending.

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September 28, 2024, 01:35:35 PM
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I do often check with their current post and not their post history because that's the subject I want to merit now if Im curious with the user of course I will check their post history so I can give more merit, others deserved too a merit not all post recognized reason why we have this kind of thread too.  [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

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September 28, 2024, 02:03:40 PM
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Personally, there’s nothing wrong with whichever method you prefer, but I'm curious, and I'm sure many others, especially newbies, would like to know some tips. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, especially from merit sources and those who consistently give and receive merits, even if they aren’t merit sources. Newbies are also welcome to share their thoughts here----this is an open discussion for everyone!

I use both criteria but I prioritize content over account history, If the account is not a scammer or a known spammer, I can give him merit.

Our merits are limited because you have to get merits to be able to give them, so its better to give them to those who deserve them, and that is members who contribute good content and have good standing on the forum, I do not support spammers ranking up because meriting their posts will give them an idea that what they are doing is ok with the community.

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September 28, 2024, 03:47:27 PM
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When I had my post history review offer active, I was getting requests from all sorts of members.  After a while I kind of started to get paranoid about alt accounts abusing the offer and I started checking their trust pages, their merit histories and so forth.  But that was a special case.

Right now I'm being a horrible merit source and can't seem to get rid of merits fast enough, and no I don't check account histories or anything of the sort when I'm just handing out merits while reading a thread.  Lately most of the merits I've given out have been to higher-ranked members, and I've always been against that--but frankly they're the only ones who write substantial/interesting/humorous posts.

Anyway.

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Giving merit based on profile is wrong and merit should be given on the basis of quality and not quantity. And I also know that for those merit sources who asked the users to submit application check the profile and the posts submitted to know if it is quality enough to be merited. I give merit from the quality and good good contributed posts. Though everyone has their own way of giving merit. For those who are not merit source also have their criteria for sending.
Just because you and I don’t do it doesn’t mean that it’s wrong to check the profile of an account before handing out merits. It’s okay to be critical of who you send your merits to, people have learnt from experience that farm accounts rotate merits among themselves and rank up quickly. I really don’t care how other users spend their smerits as long as they are not sending the merits to their alts.

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Giving merit based on profile is wrong and merit should be given on the basis of quality and not quantity. And I also know that for those merit sources who asked the users to submit application check the profile and the posts submitted to know if it is quality enough to be merited. I give merit from the quality and good good contributed posts. Though everyone has their own way of giving merit. For those who are not merit source also have their criteria for sending.
Just because you and I don’t do it doesn’t mean that it’s wrong to check the profile of an account before handing out merits. It’s okay to be critical of who you send your merits to, people have learnt from experience that farm accounts rotate merits among themselves and rank up quickly. I really don’t care how other users spend their smerits as long as they are not sending the merits to their alts.
Seen: let start from here too. We are talking about quality and not quantity. If you know anyone alt and you see the account then you don't have to meet a prophet to tell you of it and you have to leave it but if you know that the post is nice and it contributed meaningfully then giving merits to the account should not be a problem. Because the forum is meant for quality contribution and not quantity. And as I said I give merits to quality and meaningful Posts. Merit is freely given therefore you should also freely giv out without bias. You should not focus on another person smerits and how he or she send them but focus on yours how you spend yours. We have heard from sources who hoards smerits for months probably because they have not seen quality posts or tired to send smerits and we can't question them because it is in their possession. There are some people who have red/neutral tags because of violation of the rules but when they make quality post, and when users found interest init then they merit it without looking at the face/profile.

And definitely there is no way you give a merit to someone without seeing the profile name. Because when you read the posts you also glance through the name as scanning to know who posted it. Your ways of thinking is different from mine. You are in this forum to learn and to educate.

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Usually, when I give merit to someone, my decision is based on the current post. If I see that the post (in my opinion) deserves encouragement, then I try to mark this by giving merit.

But there were several cases when I gave merit not based on a specific post, but for the user's active work on the forum, when I saw that his (previous) posts were composed quite constructively and informatively.

So, I can say that I used both methods.

It should be added that other users acted in approximately the same way towards me (giving merit) (as far as I can accurately assume from their actions).

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I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.

Merit should be based on the post quality itself regardless of the account reputation or history since you are giving merit on the content not to the person itself. A anti-hero user here can accumulate a lot of merit by providing a content that has value on it.

I wonder who is the user you are pertaining that check to the history of the account first before they send merit. Usually merit sender gives merit on the spot to the post that they think deserves to get merit.

I give merit most the time without checking the user profile as long as the post is valuable in my own preference.

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Merit is freely given therefore you should also freely giv out without bias. You should not focus on another person smerits and how he or she send them but focus on yours how you spend yours.

Everyone has their own way of doing it and it's okay because they earned the merit even though it's come free of cost. Still, it came out of their effort by posting quality so it's every user's right to decide how they want to spend it and even if they decide they don't want to spend it at all then there is no one is going to ask anyone.

I don't check the names of whom I merit but since I have limited sMerits available I'll be very picky but those who have more under their profile or merit sources can be generous if they want to.

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As a merit source, I consider the quality of the post instead of reading a user profile. For me, it's important to me how the post is valuable for the forum and users. Except push for rank-up, I merit based on post quality. Even for newbies, if they try to make a good post that has value, then I send merits. I always like to help low-ranking users who really need merits to rank up. Doesn't mean I don't send merits to high rank, but it's for appreciation based on post. Because I realise how hard earning merits are for low-ranking users here. Since they spent less time on the forum, they don't have enough knowledge to make a high-quality post. However, I don't visit profiles for sending merits. 

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The correct one should be sending merit based on the post I read. I guess other would agree with me. But you should know why some people check profile before sending merits. I believe there are a lot of sold accounts, spammers, merit abusers, alt account around. Some forum members does not want to help these kind of forum members by sending merits. Even though a guy deserve merit for a specific post, I would still ignore him if he is a shit poster in general or a abuser. I have suspected a couple of local forum members of abuaing merits and I refrain sending them merits. If I feel a user does not have alt accounts, does not abuse merit, I am happy to send him a merit if his posts worth it.

Definitely. You also voice my thoughts.
 
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OP says that merits are freedom, but I would not so openly throw this "freedom" around, in particular to my alternative accounts. Yes, there is no punishment in the rules for transferring merits to your alts, but the same manager will frown if he sees a very similar sending of merits to certain accounts. Moreover, people who selfishly spend merits only on their specific circle, sometimes present themselves as alternatives, and once again attract attention to themselves for those who like to look for similar accounts.
OP, merits are not freedom, they are sympathy, they are gratitude and support, and sometimes it shows that people feel similarity with the thinking of another person. But the abuse of "freedom" will one way or another be reflected in the reputation of a "freedom-loving" person.

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I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.
People's tastes vary in assessing someone's speech, whether it's in writing, speaking or finding something that they think is quite motivational, situations like that don't only happen in real life, in this forum it's also the same in assessing and providing benefits to other members, sometimes I see.

By making ZZZZZZ posts you can get benefits and there are those who are creative with quality art can get points, this situation will occur very differently, depending on the taste that provides benefits, for that reason behind all the ordinary posts that get points, It is highly recommended for all members here to provide the best and quality contributions that are better than funny stories that end up getting the most benefits.

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September 30, 2024, 12:54:08 PM
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Definitely. You also voice my thoughts.

I want to believe that it is not only you and me, but most of the people will agree with the point of why they do check the profile before they send merit. Sometimes a pure shit poster can get multiple merits in one of their good posts. If you and I send a merit into a good post without looking who it is, then we are going to feed a lot of trolls. I remember a forum user digaran who is a known troll. But often he had some good arguments in some threads which I agree with him. But I don't remember If I sent him merit for his valid arguments. So, the idea is not to feed trolls, spammers and the abusers.

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The correct one should be sending merit based on the post I read. I guess other would agree with me. But you should know why some people check profile before sending merits. I believe there are a lot of sold accounts, spammers, merit abusers, alt account around. Some forum members does not want to help these kind of forum members by sending merits. Even though a guy deserve merit for a specific post,
And I also think why some people check the profile of the user before giving out the merit because probably is to look the profile if it is clean. Because of some of them have committed crime like scamming and have heavy flag on the profile and when they look and see that then they'll pass by.

I would still ignore him if he is a shit poster in general or a abuser. I have suspected a couple of local forum members of abuaing merits and I refrain sending them merits. If I feel a user does not have alt accounts, does not abuse merit, I am happy to send him a merit if his posts worth it.
I think if you find a quality post from the person, it is good to give the person a merit and from there he realised that it was because of the contribution he has made got him the merit so he would like to post qualitatively but if because you have seen low quality posts from him and you see quality post among them and because of the low quality post you didn't merit the quality, then the person thought would be the same that all his posts are low quality and that is why he has not gotten any merit. You merit might change the writings of the person mostly newbies who has not gotten enough knowledge in the forum.

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As a merit source, I consider the quality of the post instead of reading a user profile. For me, it's important to me how the post is valuable for the forum and users. Except push for rank-up, I merit based on post quality. Even for newbies, if they try to make a good post that has value, then I send merits. I always like to help low-ranking users who really need merits to rank up. Doesn't mean I don't send merits to high rank, but it's for appreciation based on post. Because I realise how hard earning merits are for low-ranking users here. Since they spent less time on the forum, they don't have enough knowledge to make a high-quality post. However, I don't visit profiles for sending merits.

As a local source, I merit as I read; it's easier that way, but I also like to dive into new profiles if their posts are very intriguing and I'm spotting them for the first time; I like to satisfy my curiosity and explore for more. We have a different strategy for distributing our merits, which is what makes us unique.

Approach doesn't matter, what matters is the output ( rewarding quality)

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