Shouldn't there be a forum rule against obvious AI-generated content?

[Alone055]

However, though AI generated content is hardly regarded as plagiarized content, it’s agreeable that they lack originality and don’t relay the opinion of the user. Hence, this counts as spam and could be treated in the same way.

Spams do get deletes accompanied with temp bans in serious cases and after some series of these temp bans, the sword is allowed to swing.

It can't be categorized as spam because spam is different. A spam is a post or text that doesn't have any meaning, value, or constructiveness in it whereas AI-generated content tends to have meaning and usually is on-topic as well if the user knows how to use it properly. It falls more under the category of plagiarism than spam.

Moderators and admins might have become more lenient towards banning plagiarized content altogether. We don't know. They are not going to tell us that they will be tolerating some cases of plagiarism. Why do I think that?

Two reasons:
1. The forum isn't as active as it was in the past. Issuing more bans will only decrease the activity further.  

It's understandable, that the decreasing activity metrics might be a bit concerning, but is that enough reason to leave certain cases unmoderated? Wouldn't that make things worse? I wonder what value a user brings to this forum who knows nothing more than copying content from elsewhere and posting it in the forum as their own whether it's taken from an AI model or somewhere from the internet.

I don't know but in my opinion, less activity but a cleaner forum is much better than more activity but a forum full of spammers, plagiarizers, and AI shitposters.




This is what I mean when I say "obvious" AI-generated content:

AI-generated post

User: Sg4j1n3ll0

ChatGPT:

It seems that the Man United management's decision to retain Ten Hag despite the team's poor performance has sparked quite the debate. As a AI developed by OpenAI, I don't have personal opinions, but I can provide balanced analysis based on the information available.
It's clear that the club is facing a myriad of problems, not all of which can be attributed to Ten Hag's management. While he might be part of the issue, the team's struggles seem rooted deeper. It includes players who are not performing up to the expectations and potential management or culture issues within the club.
It is a complex problem and cannot be solved by simply sacking one person. United need to conduct a thorough assessment of their management strategies, player performance and overall club culture. Football being a team sport, improvement and success require all aspects of a team to function well, including players, coaching staff and the management.

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The original post is still not deleted but he has removed the part highlighted in the report above.

What's surprising is that the user in question, Sg4j1n3ll0, is a participant of Duelbits Signature Campaign managed by Hhampuz:



So basically, he is not only doing a very bad thing by posting AI-generated content and passing it on as his own, but he is also cheating a signature campaign and getting paid for it.

Should this be tolerated or ignored only because it might reduce forum activity if he gets punished? I don't think so.

[Cricktor]

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Should this be tolerated or ignored only because it might reduce forum activity if he gets punished? I don't think so.

This cheater is so stupid and frankly deserves to be punished accordingly. Can't stand such people. I'm pretty sure no signature campaign manager would tolerate such blatant plagiarism and abuse of LLM content, especially not @Hhampuz.

[Alone055]

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Should this be tolerated or ignored only because it might reduce forum activity if he gets punished? I don't think so.

This cheater is so stupid and frankly deserves to be punished accordingly. Can't stand such people. I'm pretty sure no signature campaign manager would tolerate such blatant plagiarism and abuse of LLM content, especially not @Hhampuz.

I reported him to Hhampuz yesterday, and he removed him from his campaign with immediate effect as soon as he saw my PM.



He also posted an apology in the thread where he was reported for plagiarism which I showed above but he did it by saying that he didn't want to use AI to generate and make posts but he was using it for translation and AI added extra stuff itself in the translations, lol.

What kind of person would get something done and then don't check if it is done in the correct way or not? He probably thinks we are all dumb or something by making such excuses for what he did. 

[Pmalek]

It's understandable, that the decreasing activity metrics might be a bit concerning, but is that enough reason to leave certain cases unmoderated? Wouldn't that make things worse?

I don't think moderators are leaving cases where it can be proven that someone used an AI bot to write a post unmoderated. The information from this thread already shows that the staff is deleting such posts. The consequences we aren't seeing are bans for users who post AI-generated content. At least not on a wide scale.

I wonder what value a user brings to this forum who knows nothing more than copying content from elsewhere and posting it in the forum as their own whether it's taken from an AI model or somewhere from the internet.

Very little if you ask me. If I felt like talking to bots, I would do that and not be on Bitcointalk. I would much rather speak to real people and understand what they think of different ideas and concepts.