Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck?

[Nwada001]

...Winning from free games are very difficult because the system isn't designed to have a lot of winners ...

Because the purpose of free games is completely different. The casino provides this opportunity for the sole purpose that you try it for free and then play for money. I can assume that a low percentage of winnings is initially laid down there so that the casino does not incur an additional loss.

Sometimes the way some casinos treat the free game can even make you feel as if you can have a better chance of winning when you are awarded a bonus to play with compared to when you are using real money. I said this because there are times when I might be running out of money, and when I'm being given a free spin, that free spin always gets me a winning that can keep me going for a little while.
 
While in some cases it will just be as if you should never have been given those free games, as they are completely and almost worthless since no matter how hard you try, you can never get out with a decent winning with it.

[nara1892]

Because the purpose of free games is completely different. The casino provides this opportunity for the sole purpose that you try it for free and then play for money. I can assume that a low percentage of winnings is initially laid down there so that the casino does not incur an additional loss.

Sometimes the way some casinos treat the free game can even make you feel as if you can have a better chance of winning when you are awarded a bonus to play with compared to when you are using real money. I said this because there are times when I might be running out of money, and when I'm being given a free spin, that free spin always gets me a winning that can keep me going for a little while.
 
While in some cases it will just be as if you should never have been given those free games, as they are completely and almost worthless since no matter how hard you try, you can never get out with a decent winning with it.

Yes, it is a natural feeling scenario felt by a gambler, but for the problem of the results of the free spins actually comes back to how lucky you are at that time, we will never know whether the free spins will give you a win so you can play longer or not.

The results in the game do not depend on how hard you fight or how high your level of expectation of victory is, it comes back to how lucky you are at that time. Therefore, when your balance is running low and it turns out that you managed to get a free spin bonus, don't put too much hope in winning, because after all the free spin bonus is not a sign that you will win.

[KTChampions]

Sometimes the way some casinos treat the free game can even make you feel as if you can have a better chance of winning when you are awarded a bonus to play with compared to when you are using real money. I said this because there are times when I might be running out of money, and when I'm being given a free spin, that free spin always gets me a winning that can keep me going for a little while.
 
While in some cases it will just be as if you should never have been given those free games, as they are completely and almost worthless since no matter how hard you try, you can never get out with a decent winning with it.

Yes, it's all very subjective. Just recently there was a thread where someone complained that he made a huge number of spins on a high-multiplier slot and won nothing at all. But I'm sure that someone is lucky and will notice that such slots are "profitable". Personally, I rarely used free spins, but the experience was positive - I was able to win back the bet amount and even came out on black (the amount was insignificant, something like $20).

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I have never win any significant profit from free spin/game and it actually made me to think that it's worse than normal paid bet, although I do think that casino games are not fair all the time, even if they are cheating, we wouldn't know. Some gamblers have been lucky to make a good profit from free bet but I think only a few cases, that's to say that free bet is not usually very profitable but just a means to attract customers to gamble with their money and lose more.

[Jody.Drummer]

I have never win any significant profit from free spin/game and it actually made me to think that it's worse than normal paid bet, although I do think that casino games are not fair all the time, even if they are cheating, we wouldn't know. Some gamblers have been lucky to make a good profit from free bet but I think only a few cases, that's to say that free bet is not usually very profitable but just a means to attract customers to gamble with their money and lose more.

Actually, in my opinion, gambling like this is not a cheating done by the casino, I still think positively that the casino is only tasked with providing a game that can be played with a percentage of defeat that will be experienced by the player because they are also looking for profit by providing everything. After that, it all depends on the player himself, I admit that when you get a free spin but the results are bad, it is indeed annoying, but we can't do anything but accept it, rather than thinking about it, it will probably only make us lose control of ourselves.
I agree with what you said about the free spins, it is their way of attracting deeper players to continue gambling again and again, with that the host does not need to worry about the profit. But this is the problem we have to face, we have to be able to control ourselves with whatever results happen, because basically the casino does not have an element of coercion.

[Dewi Aries]

I have never win any significant profit from free spin/game and it actually made me to think that it's worse than normal paid bet, although I do think that casino games are not fair all the time, even if they are cheating, we wouldn't know. Some gamblers have been lucky to make a good profit from free bet but I think only a few cases, that's to say that free bet is not usually very profitable but just a means to attract customers to gamble with their money and lose more.

Well that's it, we will never know whether the casino is cheating or not in our gambling session, and as you said even if the casino is unfair to the gamblers then of course we will not know that they are cheating in setting up the game system, all we know is depositing money, guessing and pressing buttons.
I also quite agree with your last point that the presence of free spin bonuses provided by casinos is a strategy for them to make gamblers always feel interested and curious, and it is also one of the factors that triggers emotions in a gambler when the results of the spin bonus are very bad which in most cases makes gamblers feel unacceptable and want to take revenge by buying the spin bonus which makes them trapped and lose more.

[junder]

Sometimes the way some casinos treat the free game can even make you feel as if you can have a better chance of winning when you are awarded a bonus to play with compared to when you are using real money. I said this because there are times when I might be running out of money, and when I'm being given a free spin, that free spin always gets me a winning that can keep me going for a little while.
 
While in some cases it will just be as if you should never have been given those free games, as they are completely and almost worthless since no matter how hard you try, you can never get out with a decent winning with it.

The way the casino attracts players can make them forget their limits, whether it is profitable or detrimental. When players play the game and over time it drains their balance leaving only a little, then at a time like this they get a free spin even though the results are bad, this will make them addicted to depositing their money again because they think that they are almost winning, this is where the fact occurs that says pursuing victory is actually the wrong action.
I agree with what you said, no matter how hard we try, we can't get the victory we deserve. It should be noted that victory in gambling is very much determined by our own luck, so no matter how hard we try, if luck is not on our side, there will be no victory that can be obtained and vice versa with us who do it, for example, carelessly but luck is on our side, then we cannot avoid the victory that will occur, but what must be known is that luck can't guess when it will be on our side.

[hyudien]

I have never win any significant profit from free spin/game and it actually made me to think that it's worse than normal paid bet, although I do think that casino games are not fair all the time, even if they are cheating, we wouldn't know. Some gamblers have been lucky to make a good profit from free bet but I think only a few cases, that's to say that free bet is not usually very profitable but just a means to attract customers to gamble with their money and lose more.

Sometimes I can get the maximum win when I get free spins or buy the free spin feature, but the number of losses or results that do not match what is issued occurs more often. This goes back to luck, because no one can say for sure what will happen in each round. Even as you said, even if they cheat, we never know about it.
But honestly I feel a little more annoyed when I get free spins but don't give anything, in my opinion it's just a waste of time and also just makes us hope. That's something I often feel and it's really annoying.
Back to luck, we shouldn't expect so much from something that depends on luck.

[peter0425]

I feel a little more annoyed when I get free spins but don't give anything, in my opinion it's just a waste of time and also just makes us hope. That's something I often feel and it's really annoying.
Back to luck, we shouldn't expect so much from something that depends on luck.

Like you said just don’t expect much from it.

People probably feel frustrated if they don’t win from these bonus or free games but that is because they are definitely hoping to get lucky and come out with a huge winning. If you don’t take it too seriously and just play the game as it is, you would not be as stressed or annoyed as you would be now. I honestly don’t think your chances differ if you paid or you didn’t pay. Either way is the same.

[EarnOnVictor]

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Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Do not take this far, it is about what the house wants, you cannot change that fact. Even if you ask for advice from a million people, it can't still change the system programmed in what you are playing regardless of whether it is a normal bonus or the buy spin bonus.

Thank goodness that you mentioned RTP at a point, this contributes, but we can't still trust that as well because provably fair itself these days is no longer true, so you should personally judge casinos, games, or bonus systems according to your frequent experience with them.

[Poker Player]

Hi fellow degens.

You're not saying this for me.

This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions?

They are designed to give you a rush of emotions that hooks you, and then you look for that rush again.

I'm not sure if the normal spins have more RTP than the bonus ones but I generally don't trust bonuses, since the house sells them to you as something that gives you an advantage and in the end if they offer you the bonus it's because they are winning. Maybe you as an individual player will win games but the house knows that all players who buy bonuses will make a good profit for the house.

[michellee]

I have experienced playing slot game from PG up to 200 spins but no winning even not reach break even. I also don't get free spins so I don't know why but I guess that is because I don't have luck so I started to reduce the number of spins and only play moderately. By using that way, I can reduce my losses and just trying to enjoy the games.

But when I try the other slot game from different provider, I sometime lucky and win for some money. But mostly, I still lose my money so when you playing slot game, you must consider that slot game need luck if you want to win. But we don't know when we can win and could only keep trying to spin. But many people use buy Bonus to increase their chance to win and some people can win but the other still lose their money. Maybe there are a different RNG formulas that we don't know and only casino will know.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I have never win any significant profit from free spin/game and it actually made me to think that it's worse than normal paid bet, although I do think that casino games are not fair all the time, even if they are cheating, we wouldn't know. Some gamblers have been lucky to make a good profit from free bet but I think only a few cases, that's to say that free bet is not usually very profitable but just a means to attract customers to gamble with their money and lose more.

Sometimes I can get the maximum win when I get free spins or buy the free spin feature, but the number of losses or results that do not match what is issued occurs more often. This goes back to luck, because no one can say for sure what will happen in each round. Even as you said, even if they cheat, we never know about it.
But honestly I feel a little more annoyed when I get free spins but don't give anything, in my opinion it's just a waste of time and also just makes us hope. That's something I often feel and it's really annoying.
Back to luck, we shouldn't expect so much from something that depends on luck.

Yes, in casino games especially, I think it's luck that obviously grant someone success but sports game requires your skills and not only luck.

[bangjoe]

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Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Do not take this far, it is about what the house wants, you cannot change that fact. Even if you ask for advice from a million people, it can't still change the system programmed in what you are playing regardless of whether it is a normal bonus or the buy spin bonus.

Thank goodness that you mentioned RTP at a point, this contributes, but we can't still trust that as well because provably fair itself these days is no longer true, so you should personally judge casinos, games, or bonus systems according to your frequent experience with them.

This is indeed quite confusing and doubtful, especially when talking about RTP which even has 99% and I made purchases several times also getting free spins did not give a win, and the reason that can be accepted is probably because I am unlucky, and always so.

I don't know how it works, but also in other cases without me paying attention to the RTP but getting a much bigger win, and yes I ended up not being affected anymore about the RTP even below 50%. lol

[carlfebz2]

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Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Do not take this far, it is about what the house wants, you cannot change that fact. Even if you ask for advice from a million people, it can't still change the system programmed in what you are playing regardless of whether it is a normal bonus or the buy spin bonus.

Thank goodness that you mentioned RTP at a point, this contributes, but we can't still trust that as well because provably fair itself these days is no longer true, so you should personally judge casinos, games, or bonus systems according to your frequent experience with them.

This is indeed quite confusing and doubtful, especially when talking about RTP which even has 99% and I made purchases several times also getting free spins did not give a win, and the reason that can be accepted is probably because I am unlucky, and always so.

I don't know how it works, but also in other cases without me paying attention to the RTP but getting a much bigger win, and yes I ended up not being affected anymore about the RTP even below 50%. lol

But there are really indeed moments on which we do really be able to make ourselves that thinking on what the heck with that winning chance or odds? specially into the time that you've noticed it out
that the winnings arent that happening despite of having on many rolls? Yes, its understandable that they are really that on advantage on which this is something usual or common but it do really sucks
and give out that bad feeling whenever you've seen yourself having that hard time on even getting or hitting up a single good win out of those free spins. Yes, slot games are really that heavily
relying on luck for you to have those good hits but sometimes you could really be able to say that its too much.

[SmartGold01]

How did you think you would win something huge from free spins?
Just I wonder why you would have this mindset to focused your thinking about making free spins to gain something higher from it, while you and I know that almost or most of the casinos are designed to winning very less to participants and the winning radio could be 1/10 or 10/100 which is extremely poor.

It was later that I discovered that the thread is not about free spins but about the bonus spins feature that is offered in slot games. Winning big with free spins is almost impossible since casinos give out small funds. But the bonuses are attached to your bets. But I still believe that reputable casinos will make it fair. It will be better to give bettors lower bonuses than to give higher multipliers or bonuses, which are difficult to win. However, it still depends on luck. If we do a survey, you might get diverse views because we all have different experiences.

I didn't know as well but whichever ways, in casino they winning ratio are extremely poor which depends solely on luck. Even though some casinos make it fair then fairness isn't that giving much priorities to gamblers because since their main interest is for gamblers to lose and have little or no winning at the later ends. Yes there are lot of people with diverse experience since everyone has the lesson they have all got from casinos and there most be ways to about with gambling/betting site in order not to be fully affected by either with constant lose or something similar.

[DaNNy001]

Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

I have never won from a free game before, there are some bonuses I have in my paripesa account but I'm to lazy too use them up or let's just say that I have given up on free spins... I don't think they are designed for gamblers to benefit. getting free spins are not easy because you'd have to fund your account consistently to get it. It's all part of the scheme of taking your money, my first casino bonus had too many terms and conditions, they said I can only cash out when I use to play a multiplier of x10 which is very difficult, I ended up losing the bonus.

[bangjoe]

This is indeed quite confusing and doubtful, especially when talking about RTP which even has 99% and I made purchases several times also getting free spins did not give a win, and the reason that can be accepted is probably because I am unlucky, and always so.

I don't know how it works, but also in other cases without me paying attention to the RTP but getting a much bigger win, and yes I ended up not being affected anymore about the RTP even below 50%. lol

But there are really indeed moments on which we do really be able to make ourselves that thinking on what the heck with that winning chance or odds? specially into the time that you've noticed it out
that the winnings arent that happening despite of having on many rolls? Yes, its understandable that they are really that on advantage on which this is something usual or common but it do really sucks
and give out that bad feeling whenever you've seen yourself having that hard time on even getting or hitting up a single good win out of those free spins. Yes, slot games are really that heavily
relying on luck for you to have those good hits but sometimes you could really be able to say that its too much.

I can conclude for myself that, even RTP will not be useful and free spins will also not give victory if we do not have the luck to win, so I also ignore that because it is better to buy than to be given for free, although free spins by buying sometimes sucks, but if you buy we can see more opportunities than being given free, there is no need to hope for that, even if we get a big win from free spins maybe you are a lucky person from millions of people in slot games.

I didn't know as well but whichever ways, in casino they winning ratio are extremely poor which depends solely on luck. Even though some casinos make it fair then fairness isn't that giving much priorities to gamblers because since their main interest is for gamblers to lose and have little or no winning at the later ends. Yes there are lot of people with diverse experience since everyone has the lesson they have all got from casinos and there most be ways to about with gambling/betting site in order not to be fully affected by either with constant lose or something similar.

I want to ask how the form of justice in the casino in your view? Do you have a victory ratio comparable to defeat or what kind of in terms of this, if there are many people who say in this forum that playing slots is only to lose if done in the long term.

[vs2014]

This can make a big difference because anyone who gambles and understands gambling knows that free spins in online casinos are designed to entice gamblers to play the real game. Whether you win or lose, the odds are minimal. This will only happen once and you can only buy the bonus once. In my opinion no casino designs games for big wins. But in that case I don't use them instead I fund and play my normal game. On the other hand, even if you lose all your money playing the games, you can use your savings later and you are sure that you have the funds.

[Woodie]

The thing about slot games is you need to understand how they work, how RTP comes in play to win handsomely, and which games are generous in rewarding players..it's not really a pragmatic gaming thing, all game providers have the same game algorithm at play and can't call out one company only because you won't win big in the first few spins you play .

This can make a big difference because anyone who gambles and understands gambling knows that free spins in online casinos are designed to entice gamblers to play the real game.

Oh yeah then there is this , you win using demo funds and when you try with real funds the game changes altogether and you can't explain what has changed as you run out of luck and lose.