Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck?

[l3pox]

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

[Wakate]

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus. Casino team are wise and they know that are will want to use their casino when we hear about free bets for new users. This is one of the tricks that is utilized here to attract more gamblers, even the ones that are not ready to try their lucks in new casinos. Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.

[boyptc]

Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.

I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.

That's true.

Slots is better if you've got a bigger bankroll that you'll have to support yourself while playing it until you win big or until you're done.

It's not just with slots that gives advantage when someone has a bigger fund but also with other luck based games. It makes you stay longer though.

[ethereumhunter]

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

[laijsica]

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

Luck plays a role in every game to win. I got some winnings playing slot games but it didn't satisfy me and most of the time I lost and got frustrated. I have a preference for betting trends that affect me greatly in groups or individually. Free spins can be rewarded at the start of a game or paid spins which I have little faith in as luck is not on my side most of the time and the rewards are very consistent here. In terms of bonus or sign bonus developers are more interested in their own profits rather than providing users with benefits. I think if you have to gamble you should put yourself on the gambling board by placing bets so as not to cause disappointment.

[mammusu]

For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.

I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

[EarnOnVictor]

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

You have good concerns and I've thought the same way many times, losers also think that way due to disbelief of what just happened or regularly happens with the free money in comparison to using real money. The house is not foolish, you can imagine casinos giving some people a 1000% bonus, don't you think they will close their shops if it is always easy to make profits with such an insane bonus? That is why they increase the difficulty to make it almost impossible to gain from it and will also ensure that the Ts&Cs are so unfavourable to beat.

[l3pox]

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus. Casino team are wise and they know that are will want to use their casino when we hear about free bets for new users. This is one of the tricks that is utilized here to attract more gamblers, even the ones that are not ready to try their lucks in new casinos. Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

I don't know
some probably expect meme like returns in 24 hours
got 100 usd check for free for the cassino? You'll walk away with 1 million, trust it

just a joke but isn't it interesting how our expectations are many times really separate from reality?

I agree that everything boild down to a psychological level, do you think it changes anything if you approach the money like you earned, or if there are any ways to change this psychological attenuation for money you got as a gift?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.

[ethereumhunter]

Luck plays a role in every game to win. I got some winnings playing slot games but it didn't satisfy me and most of the time I lost and got frustrated. I have a preference for betting trends that affect me greatly in groups or individually. Free spins can be rewarded at the start of a game or paid spins which I have little faith in as luck is not on my side most of the time and the rewards are very consistent here. In terms of bonus or sign bonus developers are more interested in their own profits rather than providing users with benefits. I think if you have to gamble you should put yourself on the gambling board by placing bets so as not to cause disappointment.

Yes, luck is the important thing in gambling so without luck, we will not win even we will lose the money. When you already win, you must stop gambling immediately and feels satisfy with your winning. But if you feels frustrated because you lost from free spins, you must calm down and thinks that free spins is just a thing that can makes you keep playing the slot game without stop for a while. That will be too risky for you because you will spends more money which you will not thinks twice if that is necessary or not. All you want to do is return to the games, use your real money as you think you will have more chances to win, but that will not happen as you want.

Free spins is just another temptation that we should not have a big expectation with it. We can get another free spins in the next days or when we are lucky enough to get it. What we need to do is just trying to have fun and enjoy our time.

[l3pox]

I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

[Zadicar]

I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

Actually applying any strategies on playing slots is somewhat useless or doesnt have any sense. There's no way that you could be able to have that kind of advantage specially
on a game where it is really that considered to be pure luck based and there's no way that you could be able to affect out your winning rate on just applying those strategies.

Bare in mind that those are coded on which it is really that goes in line with casinos advantage. You could really be able to expect that the results or outcome will really be going in line on what we have choose.
If you are that extremely lucky then you might pull out some significant win but most of the time on which people will really be that on the losers side and this isnt something shocking anymore.
If gambling business isnt profitable into its owners then we wont really be seeing tons of sites around.

[BitcoinTurk]

As a big fun of Sugar Rush, Gates of Olympus and Sweet Bonanza, I can make comment for Pragmatic games in general. Especially, for last two weeks of my gambling, these three games are giving free spins very common and when I compare last 5 free spins in these three games;

For once, I hit almost x200 winnings with 0.40 Euros (almost 80 euros of winning),
For twice, I hit less than x100 winnings with 0.40 Euros,
For three times, I hit less than x40 winnings with 0.40 Euros as well,

In this scenario, most of the time these free spins are not covering a good winnings to players because hitting a free spin is also not easy in Pragmatic's games. Also, I cannot comment as these free spins are suck because they are programmed for spending more time on the games (kind of extension of game with no extra deposit). I think these free spins are programmed for earning more during play and spend these earnings as well in the same game because if I deposit 40 Euros and hit free spins while 15 Euros left, I hit a win of more or less 25 Euros in general. So, in that case I cannot move up or down as my starting balance and continue to spend these earnings on the game.

[Jody.Drummer]

Actually applying any strategies on playing slots is somewhat useless or doesnt have any sense. There's no way that you could be able to have that kind of advantage specially
on a game where it is really that considered to be pure luck based and there's no way that you could be able to affect out your winning rate on just applying those strategies.

Bare in mind that those are coded on which it is really that goes in line with casinos advantage. You could really be able to expect that the results or outcome will really be going in line on what we have choose.
If you are that extremely lucky then you might pull out some significant win but most of the time on which people will really be that on the losers side and this isnt something shocking anymore.
If gambling business isnt profitable into its owners then we wont really be seeing tons of sites around.

People who win by previously implementing a strategy at the beginning of their gambling will think that their win was obtained because of the strategy they used, because when gamblers think or believe in a strategy that can make them win, then the player can be said to be addicted. In fact, if they continue to gamble by betting again when they have won and using the strategy again at the beginning, it is impossible for them to win again, people like this tend to forget the luck factor which actually plays a bigger role than the strategy they believe in.
You are right, if the casino business is not profitable, then there is no way there are many casino sites circulating, while the reality is that there are so many sites circulating and that is because this business is profitable, because even if someone manages to get a big win, it is a strategy used by the casino to attract more players.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

It's only in some of the game that you can apply strategy but yet if it's not your lucky day, you will not win. I don't think it's difficult to believe that gambling it's just an activity of luck, that's why it's gambling.

[irsykes]

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

sometimes we will feel tired and think because of the hopes that have not been achieved, but all that seems our struggle is in vain because we have not found a bright spot. and no longer expect a big win but just entertainment, with as we know making experience. the lowest position of gamblers who have not won the results, but only lose money logically will flow that all this is my own behavior that makes it destroyed.

[Lanatsa]

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

sometimes we will feel tired and think because of the hopes that have not been achieved, but all that seems our struggle is in vain because we have not found a bright spot. and no longer expect a big win but just entertainment, with as we know making experience. the lowest position of gamblers who have not won the results, but only lose money logically will flow that all this is my own behavior that makes it destroyed.

What makes it that feel tiring or something that gives out that not good feeling it is really just that because we are really that expecting something positive into it on which on the moment that you've been currently experiencing the opposite thing then this is where we have those kind of emotions on getting tired nor even getting pissed because we arent that expecting that it will really be on this way.

Talking about free games on which it will be understandable that they will really be setting out those wagering requirements because they cant really just give out some free money without having those plans or intents behind those free things. Put up into your mind that there's no such thing about free mean into this world and there's always a come up reason on why they are really that offering it on which we know that this is really that something that could hook up someone to make out some deposit after they've been dealing out with some free spins or games.

Wagering requirement on which it makes do really that sucks on this aspect because there's no way that you could easily go out with those terms.

[jossiel]

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

That's right.

You only have to press that roll and it will go on its own. I think when people tells about experience, it's about how you take the risk and the amount of bankroll that you are ready to gamble with.

So, with that it tells us about the experience of how they're able to lose a lot and then probably recover some.

[Sandra_hakeem]

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus.

"try harder to get lucky on winning through free bets and bonuses"? I mean, who the hell depends on such stakes to win wager in the first place? I don't even remember the last time I'd try to follow a casinos terms and policies on getting a bonus. IMHO, such first time bonuses or spin-to-win prizes don't even reveal tangible wins.

Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

ofcourse anyone would wanna avail themselves through a free bonus... It's a strategy to attract a good level of traffic - especially if one or two people have attested to how well the casinos treat first timers. Also, for some set of people, it's always an opportunity to loot....well, that doesn't end well with them.
I don't really wanna get too deep with enrolling in casino games.. it's not fair enough IMO, and I can't place my money on it.