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September 25, 2024, 03:45:37 PM
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Electricity bills are price intensive for bitcoin miners, but having a contract with the suppliers probably will secure more coins in expenses. Power suppliers vary, and the best tariff I'd recommend for miners is the fixed rate tariff that permits paying a similar amount of money for a specific period, regardless of the fluctuation in energy prices. Hence, talking to the company to purchase energy ahead of time for a desired period, knowing how much kwh that'll be consumed, is better than working with middlemen that add up money to electricity bills, which ends up affecting the miner's budgets.

I found a site, though it operates in the Uk, that helps with evaluating electricity prices, and finding of cheap power providers to collaborate and work with on a desired plan, and in the list was Scottish power with a three year plan and a charge of 23.9p per Kwh (unit price)  However, this plan also has its disadvantages, when relocating before the time has elapsed, you could be charged for terminating the deal.

Finally, miners can count on this method, to put an end to depending on whatever bill is issued to them, and then, build rapport with the brand in control, and bid on a favorable price.

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September 25, 2024, 05:32:17 PM
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Electricity bills are price intensive for bitcoin miners, but having a contract with the suppliers probably will secure more coins in expenses. Power suppliers vary, and the best tariff I'd recommend for miners is the fixed rate tariff that permits paying a similar amount of money for a specific period, regardless of the fluctuation in energy prices. Hence, talking to the company to purchase energy ahead of time for a desired period, knowing how much kwh that'll be consumed, is better than working with middlemen that add up money to electricity bills, which ends up affecting the miner's budgets.

I found a site, though it operates in the Uk, that helps with evaluating electricity prices, and finding of cheap power providers to collaborate and work with on a desired plan, and in the list was Scottish power with a three year plan and a charge of 23.9p per Kwh (unit price)  However, this plan also has its disadvantages, when relocating before the time has elapsed, you could be charged for terminating the deal.

Finally, miners can count on this method, to put an end to depending on whatever bill is issued to them, and then, build rapport with the brand in control, and bid on a favorable price.
23.9p per Kwh is $0.32 per kilowatt.
Do you realize that with such tariffs, mining will be unprofitable? You need to look for a tariff 8 times cheaper for mining.

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September 26, 2024, 02:31:09 AM
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Hence, talking to the company to purchase energy ahead of time for a desired period, knowing how much kwh that'll be consumed, is better than working with middlemen that add up money to electricity bills, which ends up affecting the miner's budgets.
What kind of middlemen are you referring to here? A staff of an electric company or something similar? I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in my country, every custom electricity request goes directly to the national electricity power supplier. If you need industrial-level electricity, there's no other choice unless you want to build your own renewable electricity power station.

I believe industrial miners already do this anyway. I doubt they'd pay extra unless there's an extraordinary circumstance. I'm not sure you can do the same if you're a small miner though. CMIIW.

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September 26, 2024, 07:40:31 AM
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Hence, talking to the company to purchase energy ahead of time for a desired period, knowing how much kwh that'll be consumed, is better than working with middlemen that add up money to electricity bills, which ends up affecting the miner's budgets.
What kind of middlemen are you referring to here? A staff of an electric company or something similar? I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in my country, every custom electricity request goes directly to the national electricity power supplier. If you need industrial-level electricity, there's no other choice unless you want to build your own renewable electricity power station.


The middlemen here are the branches of power companies that provide consumers with necessities; meter, bill, and payment process—isn't it true that they make extra profits? For example, In my locality most people pay in cash, pos, and transfer to branches, then the staffs relay it to the headquarter. I do not think the payment is done without any intermediary between customers and the company.

Hence, miners would be better off discussing contract with the head offices, that supervises the energy, and design consumption rate to help cut cost considering the amount of energy the mining rigs would consume.

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I think the volume of electricity consumption plays an important role here. If your company can build a data centre for 50 Megawatts, then you can negotiate for cheap electricity, but if you have consumption of several hundred kilowatts per hour, then you will pay the price of the commercial tariff.

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The middlemen here are the branches of power companies that provide consumers with necessities; meter, bill, and payment process—isn't it true that they make extra profits? For example, In my locality most people pay in cash, pos, and transfer to branches, then the staffs relay it to the headquarter. I do not think the payment is done without any intermediary between customers and the company.
Hmm, I'm not sure if those exist in my area. There are definitely shady employees from the company who offer some backdoor services such as supplying fake meters to reduce monthly bills, but there are no branches or sub-contractors who charge extra fees for electricity installation or monthly payments. I guess this is because the electricity supply is not privatized, so there's no competition from other companies.

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Today at 08:57:26 AM
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There are definitely shady employees from the company who offer some backdoor services such as supplying fake meters to reduce monthly bills,
You dont want to get into those shady deals and suffer the consequences when you get caught. Like @FP91G said, if you are consuming a big deal of power you can cut a deal with the electricity company. But considering the fact that optimum cool temperature and cheap electricity is not common in the developing world, these chances are also limited or non-existent.

Mining is a cutthroat business, you have to get all these things in your favor or else you are playing the losing game.

 
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Today at 10:02:49 AM
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I agree with @joniboini, it's nothing new and i also believe big miner already got such deal either by pay in advance or negotiate with the company directly. In fact, some miner even have great deal/contract with government where they got paid for not using electricity on certain condition[1].

[1] https://fortune.com/2022/07/12/texas-bitcoin-miners-paid-shut-down-power-grid-electricity-blackout-heat/

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Today at 11:56:10 AM
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You may get a good deal from energy providers in case of floods or when electricity consumption is low in your country, but you may not get a good deal in case of grid load, so if you find a cheap deal that lasts for several months or years, that is best. Otherwise, seasonal mining and the ability to move mining equipment every few months may be better than incurring high electricity bills. This will vary depending on the country, the size of the investment and the type of deals that can be made.

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