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September 30, 2024, 03:50:18 AM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
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September 30, 2024, 02:00:23 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?

You don't need to invest that money, the fact that it's already in bitcoin you already have an investment that could grow as crazy. 10 years ago Bitcoin was at $400 when i started using it, and now is at $63000, so, we are talking about something bigger than x100 but the hard part is to hold for a long period of time, if you can do that, then you will find success in your investment.

If you only want to invest for a couple of years, then i would recommend moving to another altcoin with a nice future, that way your investment would grow faster.

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September 30, 2024, 02:07:28 PM
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If you only want to invest for a couple of years, then i would recommend moving to another altcoin with a nice future, that way your investment would grow faster.
Yeah even though I'm really support someone to invest in Bitcoin, but in this case @OP looking to earn 10x in couple years which is high unlikely to happen if he invest in Bitcoin, he might only able to earn 2x-3x. Except he want to "gamble" by buy Bitcoin with leverage.

Since he expect to earn 10x, he should expect their capital go down 10x too.

 
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September 30, 2024, 02:31:12 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
It is not matter of your investment capital is big or small because with high trading volume of Bitcoin market, your $13-14M can be absorbed by the market easily.

But to grow it up to 10 times, it is hard and I am sure you won't achieve it in near future. 10 times from now is $650,000 and you can imagine it is a very crazy price for Bitcoin. Assume Bitcoin price will double each cycle, as now it is unrealistic to think its price will increase 20 times for each cycle, and with an assumption that its all time high in this cycle is $100,000. You can make a math, to achieve $650,000 price target, it will need 3 more market cycles, that will be 2028, 2032 and 2036.

However I believe Bitcoin will need long time than next 12 years, to reach to $650,000 and its market cap will be about gold marketcap. [1]

[1] https://companiesmarketcap.com/assets-by-market-cap/

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September 30, 2024, 03:24:35 PM
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First of all, you need to understand there is no guaranteed returns in any sort of investment be it Bitcoin or Stocks or anything. Secondly, if you are willing to invest this big amount, you will have to stick to DCA or Dollar Cost Averaging where you will divide your money into smaller chunks and buy on a regular interval, just how Microstrategy did but with billions of dollars which is far more than your number. Good Luck!

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September 30, 2024, 03:29:53 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?

It is not impossible when the price of Bitcoin goes up high. The size depends on the capital allocated to Bitcoin investment. The average return obtained from large capital is certainly not small.
Don't just give an example in the US, but globally the thing that is meant is nothing is impossible including your question on how it is used.
Like the complaints of people who have let go of Bitcoin when the price is below 60,000 USD. If they had not let go at that price, they would have gotten a bigger multiple now than the amount they have.

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September 30, 2024, 06:45:21 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
If you are investing in BTC or any other asset, it is important that you don't set unrealistic targets for yourself, this can push you to take crazy risks and lose your money, 10x in a couple of years is kind of unrealistic, you should lower your expectation.

If you are have that money, you should diversify into other assets or investments, gold, business, etc, it is not a good idea to go into one investment with all your money. It is safer to do things that way, but like i said, expect realistic returns and keep your assets very safely.

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September 30, 2024, 07:48:34 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not?
If it's about possibility, there is a possibility that it can.

How could this much bitcoin be put to work? 
You're aiming for a 10x all for a few years. No one will ever know the answer for this question. We don't know even know many x that bitcoin is going to perform for this bull run. But if in estimations, 2-4 more cycles that you have to complete. Bitcoin is more stable now and lesser volatile compared in the past.

What kind of investsments will allow this?
Bitcoin. With this amount, I'd avoid putting it on any banking products.

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September 30, 2024, 08:15:40 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.?
Bitcoin is already an investment and you don't have to think of other ways to invest it. Plus anyone with 13-14 million dollars should be more than capable of investing that amount and we on the internet do not enough information to give proper financial advice, but what I'll say is you need to set realistic standards when investing an amount of money and also give a realistic timeframe for which to get the ROI.

Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
It's possible Bitcoin itself will multiply to that level after a few cycles, but risking your bitcoins worth that amount while chasing more gains can result in you losing them.

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September 30, 2024, 08:40:23 PM
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Since he expect to earn 10x, he should expect their capital go down 10x too.
This is a risk that I am sure the OP is unaware of; there is also the risk of losing money to investment as there is the risk to gain from it. If you expect 10x profit, expect 10x loss.

@OP, 10x ROI on an investment of 13-14 million USD in bitcoin seems very unrealistic, but not impossible, but I personally will not advise you to invest that in bitcoin right now. 10x will be difficult and will take longer to happen with bitcoin, but for some new altcoin, it can happen in a few minutes. That is the risk. So if you wish to make such a return on investments on such short notice in crypto, maybe you should be more willing to take the risk of investing in an altcoin, or rather, if you want to be patient and would like to wait for Bitcoin to maybe get that return on investment, then maybe you can still invest in it.

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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
Bitcoin itself is an investment on its own so there is no need looking for another investment to channel the Bitcoin into. Bitcoin has the potential to gradually grow in value in couple of years.

What you want can be possible but it’s difficult to find such investment and no investment will be as beneficial as bitcoin so I would advise you to rather hold your bitcoin for a long period of time it’s really worth it.

Any investment that promises you 10x profits should not be trusted, no investment can guarantee such profit not even bitcoin itself, it will take a whole lot of time to make 10x profit. All investments has their own risk so as much as you are expecting profit you should also expect loss too

 
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September 30, 2024, 09:07:02 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?

I want to believe that US is not the main target on this because they are not investors, but if what you are considering is in seeking advise on how possible making an investment on a profitable asset with such amount could be, then there are many options to take, part if which is the decision to make use of the holding strategy, whereby you could exchange your asset to bitcoin and hodl them down till the right time.
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First of all, you need to understand there is no guaranteed returns in any sort of investment be it Bitcoin or Stocks or anything. Secondly, if you are willing to invest this big amount, you will have to stick to DCA or Dollar Cost Averaging where you will divide your money into smaller chunks and buy on a regular interval, just how Microstrategy did but with billions of dollars which is far more than your number. Good Luck!
If you can read the Op again, but this time more carefully, you might understand that OP means that the money is already in Bitcoin but asking how to put the money to work. What the Op doesn't understand is that the money being in BTC is already an investment and what OP needs is to live the money for a long period of time and see the magic.

But the big question is, how many people can hold such amount of money for many years. It means the person is madly rich.

 
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Hmm, 10x is actually pretty small IF it was the past. These days I'd assume that Bitcoin growth is going to decrease exponentially compared to the past, so the 1000x you'd see in the past would go down to 100x, 10x down to 2x and lower even. It is for a couple of years but I don't think it'd be feasible at all with the market (unless we see a 10x the next year, which I highly doubt) so you might need to short every now and then and try to maximize the small pumps/dumps of the market.

As for investing Bitcoin itself, no I don't think a 10x is possible at all. It's already a risk in itself so I don't think you need to go beyond that, not to mention I don't think it can even be used to invest on a market stock/asset.

 
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It is feasible to grow your Bitcoin 10x over the years but there are risk in doing that.  The value of Bitcoin you are holding may increase but if we are not doing anything but holding will not increase the amount of BTC we are holding.  One popular way to increase the amount of BTC is trading but it is very risky for a beginner because he might end up losing instead of gaining.  Another option is joining the staking program of exchanges like Binance but obviously, it will take a very long time to make our BTC grow 10x.  
Growing our BTC 10x is not easy but also not impossible, we just need a proper knowledge, courage and lot of luck in order to gain such profit without experiencing any loses or suffering from risks involved.

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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?

I honestly think that at this stage with the current pool of users the growth is a bit more Logarithmic. The thing that could make it exponential at least temporarily would be mass adoption from the grass roots level. It's not so much how you invest it but who all is investing. Unless of course you're way out on the risk curve. This however could 0 you out quickly if you aren't careful. "Leverage" etc.

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Then what is this person saying about making several millions worth of bitcoin grow exponentially,

https://www.quora.com/If-someone-is-only-43-years-old-and-has-14-million-usd-what-kind-of-investments-will-allow-them-at-this-age-to-never-have-to-go-back-to-work-at-this-age-How-can-they-make-14-million-usd-grow-exponentially-and-thru/answer/Kovini-Moodley?ch=10&oid=1477743816973664&share=9d6d032c&srid=nPbjD&target_type=answer
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work?  What kind of investsments will allow this?
That is a huge amount of money but I do think it can reach 10x in a few years. I do not think just holding it will give you the profits you are expecting. More likely trading should suit your profit goals and expectations. Holding is less risky and much safer compared to trading which involves a whole lot of complicated and complex process that you are going to need to learn and master. It could also be possible that you lose some money along the way but if you want 10x profit in only a few years then you should consider trading.

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September 30, 2024, 11:50:11 PM
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How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not?
Well, I don't know if that 10x is possible or not but surely if one can invest that Bitcoin by following DCA strategy and dip buying and possibly some trading then it's highly possible to earn 10x within 10-20 years.

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Hmm, 10x is actually pretty small IF it was the past. These days I'd assume that Bitcoin growth is going to decrease exponentially compared to the past, so the 1000x you'd see in the past would go down to 100x, 10x down to 2x and lower even. It is for a couple of years but I don't think it'd be feasible at all with the market (unless we see a 10x the next year, which I highly doubt) so you might need to short every now and then and try to maximize the small pumps/dumps of the market.

As for investing Bitcoin itself, no I don't think a 10x is possible at all. It's already a risk in itself so I don't think you need to go beyond that, not to mention I don't think it can even be used to invest on a market stock/asset.

I agree with you that that bitcoin price over the years has been reducing its volatility rate which means that the excessive increase enjoyed in the past is no longer going to be the case here again. If we look at the pumps even after halvings in the past you will easily see 10x movement but not now, the bitcoin community or holders to me are now too diluted that it volatility is and will continue to reduce but those that means there is no chance that the bitcoin price wouldn’t move 10x from its current position? I will say the possibility is a 50% chance but that depends on the holders holding time.

If OP is actually looking for bitcoin to increase 10x in the next 10 to 15 years I will say it will be highly unlikely ti happens. But say a longer time like 30 plus years then I will say yes bitcoin with its current adoption rate has that potential to get close to a 7 figure price then, so with OP not been specific I will say in a very long term perspective yes it is possible but not longer possible in a short period of time











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