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September 30, 2024, 07:52:11 PM
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
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September 30, 2024, 08:18:21 PM
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I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.

Unfortunately, a lot of them don't like to read. It might be recency bias but I've found so many people misread or misunderstood sentences on the internet over the last few years or so. It's probably just as bad as before, but I can't help but notice the 'sudden' increase in illiteracy when I spend a lot of time on written media (forums, chat groups, etc).

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October 02, 2024, 08:25:46 AM
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After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting
It's up to signature campaign managers to write terms for their campaigns, and assess post quality before broadcasting payment to signature campaign participants.

If low quality posts are not counted and paid by campaign managers, campaign participants who write these shitposts or low-quality posts will stop and improve their post quality. After some warnings from signature campaign manager, if a campaign participant does not change, he will be eliminated from the campaign.

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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard.  
It will be another newbie jail if newbies won't be allowed to post in reputation board.

I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there.
Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign). It is a guideline for campaign managers and campaign participants.

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October 02, 2024, 08:33:47 AM
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I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.

Unfortunately, a lot of them don't like to read. It might be recency bias but I've found so many people misread or misunderstood sentences on the internet over the last few years or so. It's probably just as bad as before, but I can't help but notice the 'sudden' increase in illiteracy when I spend a lot of time on written media (forums, chat groups, etc).
No lies. We've read repeated advices like this which brings me to ask what the Op is hoping to achieve with this.
If this has been discussed several times and there's still those that default it only means that this will only add to the pile and still not make any difference.

 
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October 02, 2024, 08:57:58 AM
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You're better off to pay attention with the feedback you received and read what you write in your thread, what you did contradict with what you said. Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

Spamming the local board with meaningless topics. Has over 30 unrelated crypto topics on the board. Don't waste your merit on this user.

My advice for you @OP and other users, just post what you like and what you want without need to follow other users' advices because this is just a forum, a place to express, not a place to impress.

If someone make low quality post, the forum will delete it because they have rule to not create low quality post, if their post not get deleted, technically it's not low quality.

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October 02, 2024, 09:02:30 AM
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It's up to signature campaign managers to write terms for their campaigns, and assess post quality before broadcasting payment to signature campaign participants.

If low quality posts are not counted and paid by campaign managers, campaign participants who write these shitposts or low-quality posts will stop and improve their post quality. After some warnings from signature campaign manager, if a campaign participant does not change, he will be eliminated from the campaign.
I agree and disagree.

Whether we like it or not.  It is true that Signature Campaigns do some how incentivize Shitposting.  Even if the Member makes 20 Posts out of which 4 were completely unnecessary but written strictly for the Post count, that is 20 percent of their Posts being qualified as Shit.  And I doubt a Manager would expel the Member because they thought they had a little number of unnecessary Posts, though they could skip them and not count those for the Post count of the said week.

The reality is.  If there were no Signature Campaigns, the number of Bitcoin Talk Members would be very little while many others would seek alternatives to earn a buck.

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My advice for you @OP and other users, just post what you like and what you want without need to follow other users' advices because this is just a forum, a place to express, not a place to impress.
This is true.  Tryhards almost never earn a Merit.  You do not rank up by being a tryhard.

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October 02, 2024, 09:57:59 AM
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You're better off to pay attention with the feedback you received and read what you write in your thread, what you did contradict with what you said. Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

Spamming the local board with meaningless topics. Has over 30 unrelated crypto topics on the board. Don't waste your merit on this user.

My advice for you @OP and other users, just post what you like and what you want without need to follow other users' advices because this is just a forum, a place to express, not a place to impress.

If someone make low quality post, the forum will delete it because they have rule to not create low quality post, if their post not get deleted, technically it's not low quality.

Thank you very much, I once lock this thread but later open it since it was not deleted. I do think the feedback on my trust is something else, I have been away from bitcoins talk for months, my recent resumption now has been faced with criticism and attack local board moderator. My account has been open for 2 years now, if am farming for merit then I should have hit hundreds of them, sometimes I don't enter the forum for months. Leaving a bad remark on people for no good reason is the most irritating stuff ever. Whether merit or not merited , life goes on outside the forum
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October 02, 2024, 10:52:17 AM
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I once lock this thread but later open it since it was not deleted.

For your information, repeated threads or posts are not deleted solely based on the fact that something similar already exists because that isn't against the rules, however, it lowers the quality of your posts overall because no matter how good a post is, if it's repeated, you can't call it constructive because it has already been posted or discussed. For your posts or topics to be constructive or helpful, they need to be unique, most of the time, unless it is related to something that has been posted or discussed but is nowhere to be found anymore, maybe removed.

So, whenever you think of starting a thread, make sure you use the search function to see if you can't find something similar. If you do, don't do it, but if you don't, you can go ahead. The same goes for questions and confusions that you might have. There is nothing wrong in asking questions, but if you ask questions that are repeatedly asked and answered in other threads, it doesn't look good, you might even get criticism for it.

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October 02, 2024, 10:59:01 AM
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One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
Signature campaign managers shouldn't hire spammers or tolerate spam. It’s always better to focus on quality over quantity to reduce spam on the forum. Campaign managers who hire spammers should not be supported, they may be making money, but it damages the forum. Regardless of rank, if someone is a spammer, they will continue to spam.

One of my favorite campaign managers once said that being part of a signature campaign is a privilege, not a right. So, our focus should be on genuinely contributing to the forum. Eventually, our efforts will pay off, and we’ll be rewarded, like being accepted into a well-paying signature campaign managed by quality campaign managers who cares for the forum.

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October 02, 2024, 02:39:50 PM
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I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.


Well, they got weekly quota to fulfill and also in need of mertis that's why newbies always try to teach other newbies about getting merits. Smiley

As per the logic, no matter how much posts someone post they're never gonna get any merits for them unless they're circling them in between their farm that's why it's important to realise which one to focus.

If ranking up is someone's ambition here they're not going to reach the potential, learning should be the key and ranking up is just a byproduct of it.

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October 02, 2024, 03:19:31 PM
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In as much as i will say you are right I will also say you are wrong, it true that alof of newbie tends to hustle for merits and most of them ends up writing low quality post just because they are in a rush to rank up, but again if you should take a good look at it merit encourage many newbie, they engage in conversation and make research because they wnat to rank up. Imagine this forum without merit alot of people won't even be here, and the few once that are here won't even want to make research about bitcoin because they feel there is no reward for it.

You made a good point to be honest because i see alot of newbies asking unnecessary questions just because they want their activities to get high but you can't get merit by making low quality post or even asking unreasonable questions so I think they make post for the activities. Regardless, I will urge all newbie who are found of doing such to try and improve their post and you can only improve your post when you make research about bitcoin so you can engage in conversations and make reasonable point.

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October 02, 2024, 05:14:41 PM
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Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
It's not wrong if there are members who have reached a rank that has met the rules to register for a signature campaign because it can motivate them to maintain the quality of their posts. In my opinion, not all of their actions are bad but don't just expect payment.
If OP's post is considered advice or reminder, then there have been many topics like this that have been created on the forum.

I will not judge all members of this forum for making posts just to get paid from the campaign they are participating in because there are still many forum members who write for other purposes.

 
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October 02, 2024, 07:32:27 PM
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

We have to consider the rank of a newbie to be what everyone of us have once passed through, another thing to have in mind is to know the reason or purpose on why someone is joining the forum, some were here only to make fun and there is nothing they can do about that to change it, while some were here only because they have some important things to discover and know about crypto, which all these are part of the main reasons why some will stay, learn and you also see some leaving.

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October 02, 2024, 10:07:26 PM
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I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.

Unfortunately, a lot of them don't like to read. It might be recency bias but I've found so many people misread or misunderstood sentences on the internet over the last few years or so. It's probably just as bad as before, but I can't help but notice the 'sudden' increase in illiteracy when I spend a lot of time on written media (forums, chat groups, etc).
Tips like this that are coming from a newbie is a suspension that their are not actually newbies and have already accounts because of the way and experience in their statement, giving ab advice is good, but some of the real newbies already knows that.


Real newbie don't give advice of this kind since they will be lacking the knowledge and experience, and they are just focused on building they accounts and knowledge to busy to be engaging in such discussion that only old timers have skills for like this one over here.

 
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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard.  
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
Most campaign managers accept particpants from Full Member rank and above, they don't usually accept Member or Jr Member rank. The benefits of signature campaigns outweighs its disadvantages and it incentivizes quality posts and better users, for example, if you constantly make low quality posts, it reduces your chances of joining a campaign and if you are already in one, it increases your chances of getting kicked out, this motivates users to post better.

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October 02, 2024, 11:04:23 PM
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Real newbie don't give advice of this kind since they will be lacking the knowledge and experience, and they are just focused on building they accounts and knowledge to busy to be engaging in such discussion that only old timers have skills for like this one over here.

I beg to differ on this, yes I get your point about an actual newbie been able to ditch out some advices because of the lack of knowledge but advice like what the OP is currently giving out is something that an actually newbie can give out by merely reading through the forum. Many newbies have developed the habit of reading through the forum and seeing that it is threads like this that actually earns some members merits in the past they easily also make one of this threads too. The only time i question the credibility of a newbie actually been a genuine one is when they talk maybe about the forum deep history then you can clearly guess they aren’t newbies as they claim to be


That being said, if you know you'd not be able to meet the posting requirements of a campaign without spamming, it is better not to apply for such campaigns and wait for one that suits you.

A clear example of this is the gambling focused campaigns, you will see many members actually going for this campaign with some of them actually lacking knowledge in the gambling industry or have any sport related experiences and that is why you see so much spamming on that board.

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October 02, 2024, 11:31:58 PM
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That being said, if you know you'd not be able to meet the posting requirements of a campaign without spamming, it is better not to apply for such campaigns and wait for one that suits you.
Yeah I think this could help , if you won't be able to meet up with the post count of a campaign then not applying seem to be the good idea but I don't think it really works..., currently you can only get picked in a campaign  if you are well qualified  and even if you're qualified, you still have to compete with other that are as qualified or more qualified  in making quality post than you(everyone would love to give a try nmw).Getting picked makes you privileged over others(i mean no one will like to give up that becauseof the post count), now the need to adapt to the boards for required posting  arrives and most campaigns are gambling... thus, you not been qualified as a shitposters depends on who..  and how others see your post , some see gambling posters as shitposters and trully there's high percent of .... there actually.
The forum is actually broad, just make your post and try not to make it shitty  Smiley.



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October 03, 2024, 04:20:20 AM
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I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.

Unfortunately, a lot of them don't like to read. It might be recency bias but I've found so many people misread or misunderstood sentences on the internet over the last few years or so. It's probably just as bad as before, but I can't help but notice the 'sudden' increase in illiteracy when I spend a lot of time on written media (forums, chat groups, etc).
No lies. We've read repeated advices like this which brings me to ask what the Op is hoping to achieve with this.
If this has been discussed several times and there's still those that default it only means that this will only add to the pile and still not make any difference.
Merits?

I mean he's trying to educate other newbies out there hoping to get merits. The problem though is that this has been shared multiple times already, and as much as I want to commend OP for at least giving some time to make this thread, I believe there are many threads related to this that have been created already.

Well, I will not say bad things to the OP because maybe he's not aware of it, but what I will say to OP is that, make more threads that are very helpful to other users here and at the same time, hasn't been discussed that much. I'm sure other users will appreciate those kinds of actions. Wink It's time for you OP to at least lock the thread if you don't want to hear criticisms from others. Smiley Effort appreciated still.

 
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Every newbie always have this in mind, the chase for merit which is natural because that is a criteria forward in the rise in rank but they forget that there are some basic needs that they must acquire before they can be able to get to that level they desire. At first information and knowledge is very important as it will educate them and equip them all through their stay on this platform.

From all the comment and replies I have read here, it looks like thread of this nature already exist here and OP possibly is not aware or do not have knowledge of them. Maybe he could take time to go through them since it is now known to his consciousness.
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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
it's not always deficult to set a goal for yourself and try to stick to it. Ensuring that your post is of high quality shouldn't be all about trying to get into a signature campaign or trying to do so while meeting up with the required numbers of post you're to make in a day. It starts even from your first contribution in the forum and how you prioritize quality over quantity. Your level of knowledge in different subject matter also plays a huge role because at the end of the day, it's not going to be all about the length of your post but more about the quality in it be it just a two line post or a lengthy one.

You know that the structure of the forum gives you a no resting zone because thier are always going to be ranks to be ambitious about and what takes you their is not just that you're in a signature campaign. It's all about being a consistent quality poster that's an asset to the form. Even you, you're still at the low point on the forum, it's not a stage where you should be advising newbies too often. You've got to keep moving and try to become better every day and also learn about Bitcoin, the form and also build your investment portfolio which is actually one of the most important things you've got to do.


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