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October 03, 2024, 09:37:35 AM
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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.

 
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October 03, 2024, 12:32:00 PM
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I am surprised that this is happening. It’s like getting younger with anything. Some bands or groups are underaged performing and, now, fighting themes. This is getting out of hand, IMO. Are there no other ways to get entertained? Or is this just the direction?

The difference between martial arts and this one is protection. I see kids doing martial arts, and they have protection. I just don't know how to process this.

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October 03, 2024, 12:52:28 PM
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The world is crazy you know. When you think you've seen it all and then you just find out that people tend to do things that are crazier than what you've seen before. Children should not be allowed to participate in anything gambling at a very tender age unless they are up to the age to make that decision for themselves. As long as they are still below the age of accountability then their parent has every right to make good decisions for them. There is nothing like passion in that kind of sport. Children are meant to do sports that are fun, playful and educative. Not one that is destructive and can give them injuries.
Yes, I feels that because people will use many ways to make money and will not thinks about if that can give damage or harm other people lives. They only think about how fast they can make the money so they even will use children to help them to make money. It is an exploitation for children and make them fight each others while the event organizer and other make the money. Although that children make money too but that is not worth with their healthy. Parents should be aware of this because those people can use many ways to lured parents so they will allow their children participate on that events. The government must also aware of any events that will run and always make sure that will not have a bad impact to people or children.

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October 03, 2024, 02:35:56 PM
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First of all, this shouldn't be legal due to the fact that they are just kids, there's an age rule to all of these. This is something that's done illegally therefore no gambling site is going put This on the list of their games or even sponsor it. MMA isn't a weird sport but this category is actually awkward. These are kids that should be focused on their education and not beating their self up for other people's entertainment. I think if the government knows about this it's going to be shut down completely because it's considered to be illegal.

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October 03, 2024, 03:27:45 PM
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No, if you want to bet in this kind event, bet with your friends.

In my country, there's no betting company that allows or sponsor Junior MMA but on this forum, we have so many gambling platforms, I don't know if there's any of them that sponsors or allows this junior MMA. I honestly do not think it's a good idea to allow betting on underage kids fighting each other.
None, because almost all casinos are using third party gambling providers which is regulated, the only way a bookie can have this kind event is by add it by themselves. But, I'm sure the sites will be taken action ASAP because anything with kids isn't a joke.

Kids again. What's with you and about kids combined with gambling?
It's because @OP is a pedophile, that's why he really interested with kids.

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October 03, 2024, 04:19:02 PM
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I understand that people really like MMA and I myself am also interested in the sport, but involving minors in this sport is not a wise thing to do, let alone betting on them, it just doesn't make sense. Because MMA is different from other sports like chess, racing, or running, which do not involve violence, but this is a sport that displays violence and usually the people involved here are over 18, which means they are not minors and are fully responsible for themselves. So involving children in MMA or even betting on it is a ridiculous thing, do people go that far just to see little kids fighting and betting on it, I think they should check their minds.

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October 03, 2024, 04:25:01 PM
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I am surprised that this is happening. It’s like getting younger with anything. Some bands or groups are underaged performing and, now, fighting themes. This is getting out of hand, IMO. Are there no other ways to get entertained? Or is this just the direction?

The difference between martial arts and this one is protection. I see kids doing martial arts, and they have protection. I just don't know how to process this.
MMA may now have evolved to the point where there is instruction at a young age and is considered junior MMA.
Other martial arts are still better because they have protection and are less violent... Let's see how this MMA fighter when he loses then his face will be battered and destroyed.
I don't know how this will be sports entertainment if it has to be minors.

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October 03, 2024, 05:08:52 PM
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Just to be clear, I took the liberty of copying the link to the site where I saw this junior MMA fight holding and it was just as similar to the senior bout tournament that one of my favorites, Israel Adesanya would normally participate in.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAdVghMOGus/?igsh=MWp4OTkyYjh3OWkzeg==

I also think there are more children who engage in more combat sports like boxing, karate, judo and some others that do so at a young age and they become professional before turning 18.
The world is an open community we all belong to and what is good for one man, can be poison to another.

I hope you find a visit to the link insightful.
Thank you.

Still, I find it hard to believe that both threads are almost at the same issue. I have kids, you know, and I always tell myself that I will do my best to make them innocent with such things. Violence, gambling, and other bad habits that could easily be absorbed in the streets.
I know there are other kids who like sports like karate and boxing but they are taught a different way and one of the special teachings is to only use it to defend themselves. Well, until they are on the right age to use for sports and other events where a referee is present.

I think your question is off. Gambling in kid's talents. Most of the time they are for entertainment purposes only and to spread the news about how to be a sport and not a gambler.

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October 03, 2024, 07:35:38 PM
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In my country, there's no betting company that allows or sponsor Junior MMA but on this forum, we have so many gambling platforms, I don't know if there's any of them that sponsors or allows this junior MMA. I honestly do not think it's a good idea to allow betting on underage kids fighting each other.
None, because almost all casinos are using third party gambling providers which is regulated, the only way a bookie can have this kind event is by add it by themselves. But, I'm sure the sites will be taken action ASAP because anything with kids isn't a joke.

Yes, you are right, kids related matters are not taken so likely. Bookies are aware of the implications of adding such games and that's why they will not add it.

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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.
I see that we have a different opinion on this and there's also local training in your place for as young as 7 years. But these kids, if they get injured, who's to blame?

Unexpected hits might come to them. The pro MMA fighters are even having the worst injuries and some can't even fight anymore because of that.

I'm just trying to be defensive with these kids, it's okay to train and fight but there's lacking based on the source and that's protection equipment for each of them like in the amateur boxing.

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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.
I see that we have a different opinion on this and there's also local training in your place for as young as 7 years. But these kids, if they get injured, who's to blame?

Unexpected hits might come to them. The pro MMA fighters are even having the worst injuries and some can't even fight anymore because of that.

I'm just trying to be defensive with these kids, it's okay to train and fight but there's lacking based on the source and that's protection equipment for each of them like in the amateur boxing.

During training martial arts, they train not only to hit, but to protect themselves also. As they are kids, nobody would allow them to fight until some of them gets knocked out or chocked. That is why there is a referee. As soon as he notice someone gets a damage, he immediately stops the fight. On the other side, if they have chosen such a hobby, they knew they would receive damage. And how can they test their knowledge without such a test? I am 99,9% sure, that their fight ends as soon as someone gets a bleeding nose. Also, kids on the street do the same, fight each other with open hands and without any referee. Should parents then keep kids at home, because on the street they can get into a fight? Speaking about injuries, I have seen kids get serious injuries just by riding bicycles and skateboards. At martial arts, kids did not get serious injuries, because there is always an adult to look after them.

 
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October 04, 2024, 06:45:26 AM
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This is absurd and immature. How could this be allowed on x. I doubt if any gambling casino would in their right senses and state of mind allow this on their live games for adult to watch junior or underage so called MMA bets. What is the boxing sports turning into?
I do not think this fight is allowed in my country and nobody would allow such to happen under their watch when it involves underage children. Children are meant to be educated and not to fight at that age, maybe the government can possibly make some game competition for the children if they want it and not to recommend such type of sport activity.
Children train and compete in different types of martial arts, wrestling and taekwondo, but there is no cruelty and everything is aimed at their technique and strength, and in the case of MMA, this is cruelty, which in my opinion is unacceptable for children. They are not protected by special helmets and can get very seriously injured, in any case, I consider this unacceptable, not only betting on such events but also the competitions of this kind.

Children can engage in competition quite interesting and violence free but not such which would create enmity amongst them in the cause of competing for title or whatsoever. It is unfortunate that bets are being placed on such without having a second thought by the bettors.

From the picture shown here they weren't Putting on any protective which is not appropriate for them at their age to have engaged in such an exercise. Any damages directly on their body remains there forever because they are still growing and immature.

If they deem such sports valid, then there should be strong policies good enough to protect the children who take part in such exercise but I don't think such violent sports is appropriate at such age.

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Children can engage in competition quite interesting and violence free but not such which would create enmity amongst them in the cause of competing for title or whatsoever. It is unfortunate that bets are being placed on such without having a second thought by the bettors.

From the picture shown here they weren't Putting on any protective which is not appropriate for them at their age to have engaged in such an exercise. Any damages directly on their body remains there forever because they are still growing and immature.

If they deem such sports valid, then there should be strong policies good enough to protect the children who take part in such exercise but I don't think such violent sports is appropriate at such age.

What would be a appropriate protection at their age? Head gear? Then it wont be a fight under mma rules, as you wont be able to perform some techniques. From the picture, it looks like they are more teenagers, than little kids.



What about these kids then? No head gear also, but they have a full contact fight.

Dont even try to search for kids Muay Thai tournament pictues



Those little kids also dont wear any head protection, but from very childhood they learn how to land elbows, that opens soft skin easily and make deep cuts. When you say that there must be a special policy for kids, sports and violence, but like it was said above, how come you know you are ready and learning right, if you havent tested yourself in fight? Those fights turn children into grown ups. Or you suggest for kids to start training combat sports only when they are 18?

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October 04, 2024, 07:40:29 AM
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I don't think there are gambling sites that allow or sponsor this because it's not legal, These are underage kids that are supposed to be in school or something. It's different thing to put them in an academy where they can learn combat techniques but this is actually a sporting event that people are coming together to watch,  these isn't legal I bet it's done in an undisclosed location where the feds wouldn't be able to find easily. Watching teenagers beat up themselves isn't sports it's cynical and shouldn't be condoned.

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First of all, this shouldn't be legal due to the fact that they are just kids, there's an age rule to all of these. This is something that's done illegally therefore no gambling site is going put This on the list of their games or even sponsor it. MMA isn't a weird sport but this category is actually awkward. These are kids that should be focused on their education and not beating their self up for other people's entertainment. I think if the government knows about this it's going to be shut down completely because it's considered to be illegal.

I was about to say that there are kids in shaolin temples that goes through hardship every day to get stronger, if people like you guys visits you will probably call it abuse, but that's training, not putting them against each other, so you guys are right about this one.

I plan to allow my kid to take karate classes, only if he wants, but that's just for protection, looking at the picture that OP dropped, those kids are going after each others throat, no form of protection is seen in sight, this is child abuse and I am surprised that the law allow such thing to take place.

It seems this world is fading away every year, the bad things are now looking normal is everyone's eye, what is going on? I will never place a bet on such sick idea called sport, this is far from been called a sport.

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October 04, 2024, 09:50:49 AM
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I don't think there are gambling sites that allow or sponsor this because it's not legal, These are underage kids that are supposed to be in school or something. It's different thing to put them in an academy where they can learn combat techniques but this is actually a sporting event that people are coming together to watch,  these isn't legal I bet it's done in an undisclosed location where the feds wouldn't be able to find easily. Watching teenagers beat up themselves isn't sports it's cynical and shouldn't be condoned.
Everyone should be in practice for bodybuilding. If any boys are above 12 years of age I don't see anything wrong with that as they are participating in competitions of their own free will and will gradually become more experienced players with more practice. Yes betting can be done through these competitions but this should be taken positively as there should be more motivation requirements for the organizers and may also influence the audience participation more. You should consider it a competition rather than a fight and every competition will have a physical or psychological battle.

I think that these competitions will improve the physical and mental abilities of the children and enable them to participate in bigger events in the future.

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October 04, 2024, 09:53:34 PM
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Yes betting can be done through these competitions but this should be taken positively as there should be more motivation requirements for the organizers and may also influence the audience participation more. You should consider it a competition rather than a fight and every competition will have a physical or psychological battle.

I think that these competitions will improve the physical and mental abilities of the children and enable them to participate in bigger events in the future.
Indeed, the main goal of conducting MMA matches for juniors is to prepare them physically and mentally to compete in a bigger MMA event.
Junior MMA like this is a place to pit good skills against each other for aspiring MMA fighters.

And about the bets that are made or some of the gambling sites that sponsor it, I don't think it's going to be legal,
and it's about the protection of minors and about Ethics and morals.

Minors should not be exploited using betting, it is an illegal act and is not allowed.
Online casinos will also not dare to sponsor it, because they know the risks.

 
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October 04, 2024, 10:11:26 PM
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I see that we have a different opinion on this and there's also local training in your place for as young as 7 years. But these kids, if they get injured, who's to blame?

Unexpected hits might come to them. The pro MMA fighters are even having the worst injuries and some can't even fight anymore because of that.

I'm just trying to be defensive with these kids, it's okay to train and fight but there's lacking based on the source and that's protection equipment for each of them like in the amateur boxing.

During training martial arts, they train not only to hit, but to protect themselves also. As they are kids, nobody would allow them to fight until some of them gets knocked out or chocked. That is why there is a referee. As soon as he notice someone gets a damage, he immediately stops the fight. On the other side, if they have chosen such a hobby, they knew they would receive damage. And how can they test their knowledge without such a test? I am 99,9% sure, that their fight ends as soon as someone gets a bleeding nose. Also, kids on the street do the same, fight each other with open hands and without any referee. Should parents then keep kids at home, because on the street they can get into a fight? Speaking about injuries, I have seen kids get serious injuries just by riding bicycles and skateboards. At martial arts, kids did not get serious injuries, because there is always an adult to look after them.
I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.

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October 05, 2024, 02:01:13 AM
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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.
I agree with you, although most parents will definitely forbid their children from fighting, but if the child has a passion for something like this, then parents must support them as long as they fight officially with a referee as the mediator. I think MMA for juniors is not entirely wrong, because what you said is true, self-defense is something that each of us must have, even for some people they consider this important. In my own country, there are very strict laws, but for some parents, this martial art requires their children to learn it, even when they are not old enough, it doesn't matter, because they think self-defense must be learned to protect themselves. I think that with their parents who work as soldiers, they will usually educate their children to be able to learn martial arts, or indeed for parents who work as martial arts teachers, of course their children will be educated to be able to defend themselves from an early age.

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October 05, 2024, 06:36:03 AM
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I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.
That will also happen with that junior if they are fight in MMA. I guess they will have serious injuries in their body and maybe their bone can be harm too. Although they have a fast recovery but that still give something inside their body and their behavior will be change too because they trained to be aggressive. Maybe they can trained to be a master of martial art but not in that fight. Their emotional is not yet stable and they can lose their control when something is disturb them.

It needs attention for their parents so they can know what their children needs and not just follow what their parents wants. Children needs to grow normally like other children and without trained like that, they can also get good achievements. There are many other ways for the children to develop well.

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