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October 05, 2024, 12:29:59 PM
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I doubt that they are really able to reveal the identity of Satoshi. At most what they do is just create a narrative by visiting various sites and then interviewing people who actually have nothing to do with Satoshi. Maybe for the audience who are not familiar with Bitcoin, they will immediately believe what they say, but for us people who have been in this forum for a long time, we can only laugh at what they say, because usually it is only based on their assumptions and opinions, and in the end they cannot reveal who Satoshi is.
What is certain is that this documentary only attracts attention in crypto circles. We know that for 16 years since the bitcoin whitepaper was released, no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. In fact, there have been so many confirmations made as if it were Satoshi Nakamoto but in the end they were also refuted. And in this HBO documentary, it is also rumored to reveal the identity of the person who created Bitcoin, I think this will end in a lie too because I don't think anyone will be able to reveal the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto forever.

Although this film will discuss the origins of Bitcoin, why Bitcoin is growing rapidly, and how Bitcoin can become a rival to the US dollar. There may be more speculation about Satoshi but what is clear is that Satoshi cannot be one person, but a group of people. What is clear is that this film will not reveal anything, this film is only to attract the attention of crypto enthusiasts.

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October 05, 2024, 03:21:55 PM
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As far as I understand, this documentary will provide further evidence that the inventor of Bitcoin, known to the world under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, was Len Sassaman. This is a fairly plausible hypothesis.

Len Sassaman was indeed a very talented cryptographer. He is also known to have been a cypherpunk and a strong advocate of anonymity and privacy on the Internet. He committed suicide at the age of 31, 2 months after Satoshi Nakamoto published his last message (on the Bitcointalk forum).
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@Smartprofit, your information about the approximate date of Len Sassaman death is incorrect and based on it I made the wrong conclusion in my post - because you wrote that he committed suicide 2 months after the last post that Satoshi posted on this forum. The facts say that Satoshi wrote his last post on December 12, 2010, and that Len Sassaman committed suicide on July 3, 2011 - which means that at the time of the alleged last communication with Gavin Andersen (April 26, 2011), Len Sassaman was still alive.

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October 05, 2024, 04:02:16 PM
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I personally don't wanna know who Satoshi is and I hope his identity won't be revealed during my lifetime as I don't see what good can it bring.
I don't care about Satoshi... All I know is that Satoshi is a pseudonym of an obscure person... If anyone claims it without proving it to be accurate, it's bullshit.

I'll watch the documentary revealing satoshi's identity, but won't believe it's fiction.

When HBO made this movie documentary, did they do research on this forum? At least there might be some information here that Satohsi left behind?

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October 05, 2024, 04:08:06 PM
 #84

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
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Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
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Come on, didn't you know? We are all satoshi  Cool (Yeah, it's already written many times and I expect will be even more)
Well, except CSW for which we have a clear legal verdict  Cheesy

PS. I surely hope the documentary is not about him, but with journalists and film makers nowadays you never know...

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October 05, 2024, 04:43:10 PM
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What is certain is that this documentary only attracts attention in crypto circles. We know that for 16 years since the bitcoin whitepaper was released, no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. In fact, there have been so many confirmations made as if it were Satoshi Nakamoto but in the end they were also refuted. And in this HBO documentary, it is also rumored to reveal the identity of the person who created Bitcoin, I think this will end in a lie too because I don't think anyone will be able to reveal the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto forever.

Although this film will discuss the origins of Bitcoin, why Bitcoin is growing rapidly, and how Bitcoin can become a rival to the US dollar. There may be more speculation about Satoshi but what is clear is that Satoshi cannot be one person, but a group of people. What is clear is that this film will not reveal anything, this film is only to attract the attention of crypto enthusiasts.
Discussions about Satoshi continue to emerge on social media X, many parties corner Len Sassaman as the figure behind Satoshi because after his death Sassaman was immortalized in block 138725 as a form of respect. They, especially the team recruited by HBO to conduct research for years, in the end no one cared and no one believed. The crypto community will continue to keep Satoshi a secret by rejecting all the results of the research. Not for reasons of not being objective but we still prefer Satoshi to live in his myth until the end. For learning materials, anyone can watch but after all is finished one thing we need to emphasize "Satoshi is still Satoshi and he must remain calm in his place wherever he is or even if he has died, let only his name be known, his form should not be known by anyone".

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October 05, 2024, 05:06:01 PM
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Probably a bait to get more viewers and free press from everybody talking about this now.

It's not a beit but that's was the plan. You know Satoshi has been that misterious person everyone has been waiting for so long to see, many people seem him as a mentor for censorship resistance and the government sees him as threats, now imagine the suspense they have given people who believed in the cook up lies for people to watch fake documentation that are not true. If sastoshi want to reveal his identity, this is the best way I think he will tell people.

What about his Bitcoin wallet, why not even make it more suspenseful and sign a message in his wallet that contains millions of Bitcoin so the whole world will want to view tb most anonymous man in the history of cryptography but this is just like the way Craig White was having the attention all t himself but today his Bitcoin cash and everything seems to be dead and forgotten since last bull run.

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October 05, 2024, 09:21:22 PM
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I agree that this is just pure marketing and nothing more. They will show some "proof" that it will be one of the few people, like name Hal, and some others, and they will keep talking about the possibilities but they can't "know". They need satoshi to come out with proof, and that is not going to happen, and we are not going to see them finding it.

This is just a pure marketing tactic and they are going to be proven wrong in a minute whenever someone watches it, we all will be able to provide proof of them being wrong.

Some executive or producer or even director who doesn't know much about bitcoin will find something that leads to nowhere but because they are ignorant about bitcoin they are going to consider this as real and not see why it is not real. This is what happens when you do something which you are so uneducated about, you have to only focus on what you know. Maybe they are aware how wrong they are, and they just want more people to watch it.

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October 05, 2024, 10:20:13 PM
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I am interested to watch it as it's from HBO, and probably quality, but this is nothing but a sales tactic. They are probably presenting most probable choice for Satoshi's identity, which has been done several times.

I mean think about it. How many more people will watch this when they are saying they have found new evidence (which i highly doubt). Compared to generic film about bitcoin without anything new. Of course they need scandalous marketing.

There has already been so much in-depth speculation, that's it's really hard for me to believe that some film maker from hbo (no matter how talented he is) can easily go deeper than that.

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October 05, 2024, 10:22:14 PM
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Some executive or producer or even director who doesn't know much about bitcoin will find something that leads to nowhere but because they are ignorant about bitcoin they are going to consider this as real and not see why it is not real. This is what happens when you do something which you are so uneducated about, you have to only focus on what you know. Maybe they are aware how wrong they are, and they just want more people to watch it.

They want to link someone to the creation of Bitcoin so bad that they are willing to do anything it takes. They do not mind if they got the wrong person but they just want to review Satoshi identity so badly because they are thinking that if they get someone linked to the creation of Bitcoin and arrest that person, that they can kill the enthusiasm that people have for Bitcoin. The government might be behind this as this might be a desperate last attempt to kill Bitcoin. I do not care who they falsely accuse to be Satoshi, if he can not sign a signature message from the first Bitcoin address that Satoshi first used then he is not Satoshi. There is no other evidence that they are going to show to make me to believe them because everything can be manipulated right now with AI and other advanced technology.

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October 06, 2024, 06:35:05 AM
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Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
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Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
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There's a less popular candidate that possibly "could be Satoshi", and he died tragically because "he took his own life" during July, 2011 - Lens Sassaman.

A "theory" might be made by some users of the forum about that "suicide", then connect "that" with something that happened a mere month before the "suicide".

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October 06, 2024, 07:54:06 AM
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I do not know who they will claim is Satoshi, but I do know that various media outlets have made claims over the years that they know the identity of Satoshi, and all of these claims have been hilariously and completely wrong. I have no expectation that this time will be any different.

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I do not know who they will claim is Satoshi, but I do know that various media outlets have made claims over the years that they know the identity of Satoshi, and all of these claims have been hilariously and completely wrong. I have no expectation that this time will be any different.

Yes, I also believe that this statement will be like all the previous statements, they will link and string everything together, and finally they will come up with a statement with 1 name based on their research. But at the end of the day, they will have no concrete or clear evidence to be sure that the person is Satoshi.

It really annoys me that every now and then someone wants to dig up news about him when he has decided to stay silent for over 15 years. After all, even if we do find out Satoshi's true identity, what do we do next? We can do nothing but satisfy our curiosity, which is not beneficial to him or us.

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October 06, 2024, 08:41:28 AM
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Yes, I also believe that this statement will be like all the previous statements, they will link and string everything together, and finally they will come up with a statement with 1 name based on their research. But at the end of the day, they will have no concrete or clear evidence to be sure that the person is Satoshi.
They did all these things on purpose, not coincidental. They described their research, spent resources to make a film and it does not make sense if their conclusion is "We don't know who is Satoshi Nakamoto". I hope people can see this point, as a media company HBO must gain something from money they spent for making this documentary film.

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It really annoys me that every now and then someone wants to dig up news about him when he has decided to stay silent for over 15 years. After all, even if we do find out Satoshi's true identity, what do we do next? We can do nothing but satisfy our curiosity, which is not beneficial to him or us.
It is freedom of speech. If you want to find who is Satoshi Nakamoto, nobody can prohibit you doing this. It is like you want to find a truth, if you are prohibited to do this, you lose one of basic human rights.

As a senior Bitcoin investor, I don't want identity of Satoshi Nakamoto to be found. Because if he is alive, he will be arrested like people behind mixers. He will be sent to jail, and Bitcoin will get big problem with massive panic sell.

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Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
Wei Dai
Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
Elon Musk



There's a less popular candidate that possibly "could be Satoshi", and he died tragically because "he took his own life" during July, 2011 - Lens Sassaman.

A "theory" might be made by some users of the forum about that "suicide", then connect "that" with something that happened a mere month before the "suicide".

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To give some good insight towards Lens Sassaman I guess this is good article to read https://protos.com/who-is-len-sassaman-polymarkets-top-bet-for-satoshi/ and guess this is where HBO is heading since they might believe that he's the real Satoshi.

But don't know what are the other proof they have aside for being famous cypherpunk and other things they claim written in that article.

For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.

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October 06, 2024, 09:05:09 AM
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For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.
We will have another interesting video of this man, to strongly deny this theory and say "Please stop bothering me, give me peaceful time" like Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto did.

Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.

I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.

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October 06, 2024, 10:50:37 AM
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Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
Wei Dai
Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
Elon Musk



There's a less popular candidate that possibly "could be Satoshi", and he died tragically because "he took his own life" during July, 2011 - Lens Sassaman.

A "theory" might be made by some users of the forum about that "suicide", then connect "that" with something that happened a mere month before the "suicide".

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To give some good insight towards Lens Sassaman I guess this is good article to read https://protos.com/who-is-len-sassaman-polymarkets-top-bet-for-satoshi/ and guess this is where HBO is heading since they might believe that he's the real Satoshi.

But don't know what are the other proof they have aside for being famous cypherpunk and other things they claim written in that article.

For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.


If HBO is indeed starting a narrative that he "could be Satoshi Nakamoto", THEN who actually was Lens Sassaman? If there's truly some probability that he might be Satoshi, then why did he kill himself? OR did he actually kill himself? That question truly deserves to be investigated, no?

There will be smart individuals in BitcoinTalk who might research dates, read posts of "some people", then connect the dots. Cool

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October 06, 2024, 12:03:34 PM
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Yeah I was gonna make a post about this before I saw this, This Documentary I think it’s HBO idea of making some bucks with their story of who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
Making a documentary of the mysterious and godly figure of Satoshi is enough to drive a huge market for them whether it be true or fiction.
Though I think keeping his identity a mystery is still the best thing but with the way they’re going by choosing Lens Sassaman who’s dead, it’s also good to avoid any shakeups or shakedowns to the crypto markets.
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October 06, 2024, 12:28:14 PM
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For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.
We will have another interesting video of this man, to strongly deny this theory and say "Please stop bothering me, give me peaceful time" like Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto did.

Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.

I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.

He cannot deny or cannot create a video towards this issue since Len Sassaman is dead year 2011.

They are just speculating base on the achievement or title gotten by this man but didn't brought up some facts that can point out that he is the real Satoshi.

Lets just see what will happen since HBO is successful to catch the attention of people.

If HBO is indeed starting a narrative that he "could be Satoshi Nakamoto", THEN who actually was Lens Sassaman? If there's truly some probability that he might be Satoshi, then why did he kill himself? OR did he actually kill himself? That question truly deserves to be investigated, no?

Provably he's family know the reason why he do that.

But he really have great career look at his profile and achievement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Sassaman  he's really good and good candidate to be the real satoshi, but then again lets just see the documentary of HBO and what information they released about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

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October 06, 2024, 12:50:51 PM
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Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
 - Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
 - 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
 - 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
 - 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
 - 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

The problem with these kind of shows is that it doesn't matter if you state the facts, everybody who watches the documentary is going to believe it's true because that's what they said. Wikipedia is going to write it, because it came from an 'authoritative source' (i.e. someone with a lot of traffic). Every news source is going to quote HBO whenever they write an article about Satoshi.

Now there are going to be a lot of flying monkeys coming here to ask about Len Sassaman like this deleted r/Bitcoin post.

Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
Wei Dai
Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
Elon Musk


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How did a LLM manage to come up with an even dumber candidate (Elon) than CSW?

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~snip~
Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.
I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.


People can behave in very strange ways and this happens constantly - but in this particular case there is no reason to be excited or to panic - because if the documentary in its conclusion announces that they think that the man who has been dead since the middle of 2011 could be Satoshi, then it is not should have no effect on the price of BTC.

If Satoshi is dead, then we don't need to worry about those famous million BTC that he saved in his wallet on the computer where the data is encrypted (if the computer even exists anymore). I think that news like this can be interesting only to children who want to solve mysteries, for the rest of us mysteries exist for a reason, right Mr. Satoshi?

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