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October 06, 2024, 03:37:05 PM
 #101

At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."

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October 06, 2024, 08:10:29 PM
 #102

At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."
I agree with you, yes Satoshi has become a philosophy and a symbol, and it does not matter whether Satoshi is alive or dead, the important thing is that he remains anonymous. This legendary symbolism of Satoshi is one of the strengths of Bitcoin.

If the real Satoshi appears and proves with all the evidence that he is really him, many people will not believe him because they loved the legend, and the appearance of the real Satoshi will lose the beauty of the legend and Bitcoin will lose its attractiveness and luster.
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October 06, 2024, 08:43:09 PM
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Hmm, I'm late, looks like many things were happening in the absence on the forum, anyway, we'll catch up on them later but Stoshi's new version is out now let's have a look into that first. Honestly, this is one of the most over-rated and recurrent topic ever.

If his revelation can blow up the market ever I'm interested but if it doesn't who cares but I just Love him! Internet is down again here from 2 days and it sucks I want to see him live on Stream.

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October 06, 2024, 09:05:09 PM
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I guess they’ve gotten what they wanted within few hours, I will love to view the documentary besides I want to see the outcome of the story behind bitcoin but, I don’t believe about Satoshi real identity. This has been for long even if I don’t know much I still see few post trying to claim and reveal Satoshi real identity and they never succeeded  in doing that, what’s more surprising they get more streams and viewers whenever such topic is treated due to bitcoin popularity. Let’s imagine all this is real what’s the point showing up now? Just curious to know why satoshi will want to come openly meanwhile I still don’t believe.

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October 06, 2024, 09:25:38 PM
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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
The guy will be tossed in jail.
Look what happened to assange for example of governments not wanting any opponent when it comes to their own laws.
Anyone who goes against the system have been put in their place and dealt with.

This documentary will not tell his identity or else he would already be in handcuffs for some outlandish reason.
Whatever governments holding power wants to make up so to keep their fancy world running.
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October 06, 2024, 09:48:39 PM
 #106

At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."

Wise words! I think that the revelation that Satoshi Nakamoto is not the real founder at least the videos that are resurfacing that he is Satoshi Nakamoto may be a person with that name but the Satoshi Nakamoto that we know is an Icon and not a person for many of us that is a very fond and likely enthusiast with Bitcoin we see the name Satoshi Nakamoto as a figure of Liberation and Freedom,

I agree that the words of the man in the video Satoshi Nakamoto are not really worth it, even if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes to the limelight I really think that Bitcoin will still reign Supreme in the Crypto world it has given us financial autonomy, and Stability with each passing years it becomes something more that the government wants to control.

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October 06, 2024, 10:17:11 PM
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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

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October 07, 2024, 02:01:38 AM
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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts Smiley.

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October 07, 2024, 08:34:00 AM
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If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts Smiley.

The launch of the Satoshi Nakamoto Documentary Film is indeed attracting attention at the moment, there are 1.1 million Bitcoins in his hands. But it's better if we just wait for the film.

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October 07, 2024, 08:59:31 AM
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Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
 - Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
 - 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
 - 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
 - 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
 - 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

The problem with these kind of shows is that it doesn't matter if you state the facts, everybody who watches the documentary is going to believe it's true because that's what they said. Wikipedia is going to write it, because it came from an 'authoritative source' (i.e. someone with a lot of traffic). Every news source is going to quote HBO whenever they write an article about Satoshi.

Now there are going to be a lot of flying monkeys coming here to ask about Len Sassaman like this deleted r/Bitcoin post.


They will not only come here to ask about him, they will also ask about the nature of his death. "Why did he kill himself"?, "Did he actually kill himself/no foul play"?, "There was someone who posted something in BitcoinTalk that he will do something. It was one month before his suicide, shouldn't THAT be a matter of interest"?

Those sorts of questions that will create a narrative and rebuild interest on the question - "Who actually is Satoshi Nakamoto"? The newbies will like it.

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October 07, 2024, 09:05:57 AM
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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts Smiley.

Damn, never thought about that one  Roll Eyes Bring the popcorn, legiteum is onto something! Grin
But I still don't think we will have something worth noting at the end of this story, though.

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October 07, 2024, 10:09:20 AM
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I recall the masked man revealing magician tricks! At first when I saw it, I thought he was masked and hidding his identity because he was actually doing some damage to the industry of magicians and those could take reprisals against him. It was quite interesting.
In the case of this production about Bitcoin it is likely HBO will mention the role of Satoshi Nakamoto in the creation of Bitcoin and the possible reasons why he created a decentralized peer-to-peer payment network, but they will definitely avoid to especulate about his identity (if they want to be serious enough).
Also, it is possible they will mention this forum and the historical value it has for the creation of Bitcoin an other decentralized assets like Ether and Monero.
If we are lucky, we could see some newcomers in this forums after their documentary film gets aired, hopefully most of them are curious people and willing to learn, instead of shitposters.

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October 07, 2024, 11:04:56 AM
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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
The guy will be tossed in jail.
Look what happened to assange for example of governments not wanting any opponent when it comes to their own laws.
Anyone who goes against the system have been put in their place and dealt with.

This documentary will not tell his identity or else he would already be in handcuffs for some outlandish reason.
Whatever governments holding power wants to make up so to keep their fancy world running.

It's highly likely that whoever was Satoshi is already dead (but not Len).

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October 07, 2024, 12:20:54 PM
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Saw a tweet a while ago and it says:

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JUST IN: New HBO documentary claims to have uncovered the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of #Bitcoin.

Damn betting my btc asset its just a hearsay and possible viewers increase since crypto is going mainstream. Maybe HBO should invite some users here like theymos and others who might give them more clue instead.

Edit: Didnt watch the clip yet, but already seen some comments like pouring in. The video will be aired on October 8th, 2024 2am CET ( 9pm EST)

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Since this will be showing tomorrow as I checked my HBP account and its not yet there this gives me interest in watching (its been couple of months that I am not using my HBO account ) and am wondering  if what can hbo brings here since the site is giving good documentaries over the years .
though we have seen tons of same crap from long time about the Satoshi Nakamoto's true Identity so hoping there will be some light this time .
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October 07, 2024, 12:48:29 PM
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If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts Smiley.

Damn, never thought about that one  Roll Eyes Bring the popcorn, legiteum is onto something! Grin
But I still don't think we will have something worth noting at the end of this story, though.

Like a lot of good baseless conspiracy theories, there is a good bit of internal logical consistency with this theory. Besides Satoshi being some person who actually physically died (or was incarcerated), there's no other way to explain how some living person would sit on $60 billion without spending it. But the US government could do this, and keeping the secret would be worth it (because $60B is peanuts for the US gov).

And the way honey pots work, they would lose their leverage over it if they revealed what they did. And then imagine what they would have thought when they saw Bitcoin becoming huge and spawning a new industry: "oops" Smiley. They would never ever want to reveal what they had done because it would be very embarrassing--and it would reveal "sources and methods" e.g. the very idea they would do something like this would now be out there.

Edit: I take back what I said about there being no evidence! There is a post about this in the famous "Bitcointalk.org" forum about this theory here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5511762.msg64609653#msg64609653

It must be true now! LOL

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Polymarket is going nuts right now, with a huge inflow of money betting on Szabo


was there a leak from the documentary?

That side, I see people including Theymos saying Len Sassaman is a bad candidate, but what's the actual reason for dismissing him?
For Hal Finey, we have the supposed timing of that email that he couldn't have sent., for the ones being alive we still have the serious question why not touching 60 billion standing there, so what is discrediting Len's claim?

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October 07, 2024, 07:49:24 PM
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If they say it's Craig or Dorian Nakamoto, I'm never buying HBO subscription again. These companies are getting worse and worse, trying to capitalize on things people might watch. They don't care if it's low level shows for idiots, fake research and all that.

Sassaman is a convenient choice because he died shorty after Satoshi stopped posting, but I don't see any information about him being interested in cryptography. If you really wanted to, you could find a number of hackers and coders who died in 2011 or 12. 
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Some executive or producer or even director who doesn't know much about bitcoin will find something that leads to nowhere but because they are ignorant about bitcoin they are going to consider this as real and not see why it is not real. This is what happens when you do something which you are so uneducated about, you have to only focus on what you know. Maybe they are aware how wrong they are, and they just want more people to watch it.

They want to link someone to the creation of Bitcoin so bad that they are willing to do anything it takes. They do not mind if they got the wrong person but they just want to review Satoshi identity so badly because they are thinking that if they get someone linked to the creation of Bitcoin and arrest that person, that they can kill the enthusiasm that people have for Bitcoin. The government might be behind this as this might be a desperate last attempt to kill Bitcoin. I do not care who they falsely accuse to be Satoshi, if he can not sign a signature message from the first Bitcoin address that Satoshi first used then he is not Satoshi. There is no other evidence that they are going to show to make me to believe them because everything can be manipulated right now with AI and other advanced technology.
Exactly what was my take on everything when I saw this topic, I think humans don't do well with settling with the fact that they don't actually have the answer to many questions and that's why they have set up some many stupid solution which are all just assumption to quench that thirst of their never ending curiosity and that's exactly what I feel they would do with this documentary too.

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JUST IN: New HBO documentary claims to have uncovered the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of #Bitcoin.

I think the cable television HBO is just trying to get attention from the public just like some others did in the past but however, before anyone or any platform can convince people about uncovering the creator of bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto, it will require a lot of proofs of which there can't even be enough proofs to make people believe, perhaps even if Satoshi Nakamoto decides to reveal himself or theirselves today it will still be very hard for a lot of people to believe so i still assume that the motive why bitcoin was created to be decentralized is the reason why he/they became anonymous till date. However, let's just forget about Satoshi revealing himself/theirselves in the future and focus more in the development of what he/they created (bitcoin), i think that's what we should be more interested in.

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The most waited time is by tomorrow, the 8th of October; after tomorrow, it will be all over, and people who watch the documentary about Satoshi will tell us what it is all about, whether it's a simple storyline being acted to look true or a fabricated story formulated to gain attention.

However, whatever is analyzed and concluded by people who watch the documentary by tomorrow, I don't care to know,  and i believe that some many people here would the same "don't care to know". What we do know is that Satoshi's identity is unknown to everyone. Nobody can solve the puzzle of that unless when Satoshi comes out fully to sign a message on his Bitcoin wallet. Then we will all accept that's the real Satoshi. Nothing apart from that it's a mere imagination of whom they thought Satoshi to be.

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