SC clears path for US to sell $4.4 billion in seized Silk Road Bitcoin

[CryptSafe]

Definitely, the market would react to such sales be it through auctioning or through exchange but however, the process should be open and transparent because politicians seems to be very funny at all times. I would not be surprised seeing them doing it quick before the [Presidential election so they could get it fast than for a new government to take over it without them getting anything from it.

This would be a good benefit for the exchange they would end up choosing if they think of using an exchange for the sales and also there would likely be other benefits attached to buyers who would buy directly from them if auctioning is their resolve.

[TravelMug]

Definitely, the market would react to such sales be it through auctioning or through exchange but however, the process should be open and transparent because politicians seems to be very funny at all times. I would not be surprised seeing them doing it quick before the [Presidential election so they could get it fast than for a new government to take over it without them getting anything from it.

This would be a good benefit for the exchange they would end up choosing if they think of using an exchange for the sales and also there would likely be other benefits attached to buyers who would buy directly from them if auctioning is their resolve.

It did react to the sales, as we have seen the price goes below $60k in the last 24 hours. But now we have forgotten about this so called negative news, as the price is already at $60,800. So that's how quick the market react to bad news and how quick smart investors taking advantage of it and buying at the right time.

And maybe they are selling because they don't what Trump to have this huge amount of Bitcoin when he wins the US election, 

Although it might be good for America to hold and be a Bitcoin holder or at least they have some reserves, but I guess it's not on their plate and wanted to just disposed of the seized Bitcoin.

[FortuneFollower]

Definitely, the market would react to such sales be it through auctioning or through exchange but however, the process should be open and transparent because politicians seems to be very funny at all times. I would not be surprised seeing them doing it quick before the [Presidential election so they could get it fast than for a new government to take over it without them getting anything from it.

This would be a good benefit for the exchange they would end up choosing if they think of using an exchange for the sales and also there would likely be other benefits attached to buyers who would buy directly from them if auctioning is their resolve.

It did react to the sales, as we have seen the price goes below $60k in the last 24 hours. But now we have forgotten about this so called negative news, as the price is already at $60,800. So that's how quick the market react to bad news and how quick smart investors taking advantage of it and buying at the right time.

And maybe they are selling because they don't what Trump to have this huge amount of Bitcoin when he wins the US election, 

Although it might be good for America to hold and be a Bitcoin holder or at least they have some reserves, but I guess it's not on their plate and wanted to just disposed of the seized Bitcoin.

Yeah, only time will tell, however, the reserves will be created eventually, in my opinion
People and the market, in general, do forget things quickly, however, that doesn't mean that there won't be a nail struck with such an event on the price of BTC.

[stadus]

It did react to the sales, as we have seen the price goes below $60k in the last 24 hours. But now we have forgotten about this so called negative news, as the price is already at $60,800. So that's how quick the market react to bad news and how quick smart investors taking advantage of it and buying at the right time.

And maybe they are selling because they don't what Trump to have this huge amount of Bitcoin when he wins the US election, 

Although it might be good for America to hold and be a Bitcoin holder or at least they have some reserves, but I guess it's not on their plate and wanted to just disposed of the seized Bitcoin.

Approved for selling, but no news yet if it’s actually been sold, and people are already reacting to the market.

There’s a lot of news about selling lately, like this one and the FTX refund to its users, but I don’t think the government will dump everything all at once since that might cause panic. Although it’s not new to us, considering the US has regulated exchanges, they probably won’t do something that will hurt people too much by causing a massive drop. The price reaction right now is mostly driven by speculation, but when the actual selling happens, we might not even feel it due to Bitcoin’s large daily volume.

[CryptSafe]

Definitely, the market would react to such sales be it through auctioning or through exchange but however, the process should be open and transparent because politicians seems to be very funny at all times. I would not be surprised seeing them doing it quick before the [Presidential election so they could get it fast than for a new government to take over it without them getting anything from it

This would be a good benefit for the exchange they would end up choosing if they think of using an exchange for the sales and also there would likely be other benefits attached to buyers who would buy directly from them if auctioning is their resolve.

It did react to the sales, as we have seen the price goes below $60k in the last 24 hours. But now we have forgotten about this so called negative news, as the price is already at $60,800. So that's how quick the market react to bad news and how quick smart investors taking advantage of it and buying at the right time.

And maybe they are selling because they don't what Trump to have this huge amount of Bitcoin when he wins the US election,  

Although it might be good for America to hold and be a Bitcoin holder or at least they have some reserves, but I guess it's not on their plate and wanted to just disposed of the seized Bitcoin.

Your thoughts are right, maybe they already see the possibility of Trump winning the election if not why did they not sell it since they were in in office its now that the elections are close they are quick to sell it because of the fear of loosing out.

Looking at the volume and amount equivalent, that could be a good investment to hold onto for years by the government but I believe greed made them do that so quickly. Well, we never can tell but that is just a good reserve that could turn out in hundreds of billions in the future. As a government that is what I expected them to have thought about for the future of the country they claim to love and are serving rather than being in a haste to sell such asset when they know how valuable it is.

[FortuneFollower]

It did react to the sales, as we have seen the price goes below $60k in the last 24 hours. But now we have forgotten about this so called negative news, as the price is already at $60,800. So that's how quick the market react to bad news and how quick smart investors taking advantage of it and buying at the right time.

And maybe they are selling because they don't what Trump to have this huge amount of Bitcoin when he wins the US election, 

Although it might be good for America to hold and be a Bitcoin holder or at least they have some reserves, but I guess it's not on their plate and wanted to just disposed of the seized Bitcoin.

Approved for selling, but no news yet if it’s actually been sold, and people are already reacting to the market.

There’s a lot of news about selling lately, like this one and the FTX refund to its users, but I don’t think the government will dump everything all at once since that might cause panic. Although it’s not new to us, considering the US has regulated exchanges, they probably won’t do something that will hurt people too much by causing a massive drop. The price reaction right now is mostly driven by speculation, but when the actual selling happens, we might not even feel it due to Bitcoin’s large daily volume.

Yeah, I also thought about it - BTC is too big to shake it up that much, and even then, events like that are opportunities for everybody to get better positions, and on BTC, it would be seen as a piece of freshly baked bread
We will see how it goes eventually.

[DeathAngel]

This wouldn’t happen under a Trump administration. I’m not sure why Democrats would see this as any sort of priority when they have an election to try & win in under a month. This just seems like they are trying to annoy Republicans as it serves no real urgent need. Those coins have been hodled for 10 years, why on earth is there a need to sell them now. $4,000,000,000 is one day of US Gov spending, this is politics of revenge by the Democrats. 

[fikrett]

This wouldn’t happen under a Trump administration. I’m not sure why Democrats would see this as any sort of priority when they have an election to try & win in under a month. This just seems like they are trying to annoy Republicans as it serves no real urgent need. Those coins have been hodled for 10 years, why on earth is there a need to sell them now. $4,000,000,000 is one day of US Gov spending, this is politics of revenge by the Democrats. 

Maybe, or maybe not - we will never know, however, we do see this as a gesture from democrats.
I do believe that this situation will be eventually resolved and slowly, not affecting the market too much, the funds will be sold.

[shield132]

Sounds familiar to me, although in the past 8 years there have been so many scams related to cryptocurrencies that someone could write a very extensive book about them. However, given that the price of 1 BTC in mid-2016 was around $400 (if my memory serves me well), and that by the end of the year it had more than doubled, I would not say that the scam had any significant impact on the price of BTC.

No, it didn't have a significant impact on the price. If I amn't wrong, people didn't know Hashocean's addresses, so no one could monitor when they were selling their coins but I remember that there were many speculation about how hashocean would quickly sell off coins and because of that speculation, there was a drop of Bitcoin's price but it didn't last long.

In addition, I think that about $4 billion worth of BTC will not have any significant effects on the price, because not so long ago we had $3 billion worth of BTC sold by the Germans and no disaster happened.

That's why I think that price will dump, the second similar sale in a row and the price doesn't look well right now. It needs a push, if they sell it now, it will be a negative push and we will probably have 50K USD per coin.

Btw I bet that their CEX of choice will be Coinbase.

Very likely, it is no secret that CEX has very good relations with the US authorities.

I would die laughing if they sell coins on Binance 

[yhiaali3]

Even if he knows nothing about bitcoin, as long as his administration has politicians who like bitcoin, it makes us optimistic and believe that under his tenure, we will be better. That would certainly be much better than a leader who not only knows nothing about bitcoin but is hostile to it.

In this respect I agree with you, a president who knows nothing about Bitcoin but is loyal to it is much better than a president who knows about Bitcoin but is hostile to it, also the issue of age must be considered as you pointed out.

In the end, I believe that Trump, being a successful economist, will support Bitcoin and will gather around him an administration loyal to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies because he has come to realize their importance in supporting the American economy.

[dezoel]

Approved for selling, but no news yet if it’s actually been sold, and people are already reacting to the market.

There’s a lot of news about selling lately, like this one and the FTX refund to its users, but I don’t think the government will dump everything all at once since that might cause panic. Although it’s not new to us, considering the US has regulated exchanges, they probably won’t do something that will hurt people too much by causing a massive drop. The price reaction right now is mostly driven by speculation, but when the actual selling happens, we might not even feel it due to Bitcoin’s large daily volume.

Most of the time these big amounts are not sold like you and I sell these coins. We may deposit our coins to binance or some other exchange, turn it into cash and then withdraw to our bank accounts, this is what a retail investor does. However, when you have 4.4 billion dollars to sell, you do not sell on the market price and crash the market, because that type of trading wouldn't help you neither.

What you do is over the counter trading, meaning you find buyer or buyers, and then you sell it from lower than the market price. Why lower? Because if you sell it on the market then you will drop the price anyway, hence you have to give discounted offer to make sure buyers are interested. So, you make 4 billion dollars instead of 4.4 billion dollars but the market doesn't crash. Although, the price already went down, not because of them selling on the market, but because people got afraid they would, which is a wrong way of thinking how whales get rid of their coins.

[Faisal2202]

Another news  that would impact the price of bitcoin.. will this result to Bitcoin dropping below $60k, or even more

This is bad news for all of us $4.4 Billion worth of BTC will be sold by the government and where will all that money go. That won't be discussed publicly but this selling can cause a huge dump in the price and I doubt the price of BTC can fall even below $55k this time.

We can only assume how bad can happen because here $4.4 billion worth of BTC will be sold, and on the other hand, FTX is going to repay a total of $14 billion to $16 billion in fiat (I am not sure, but I think they will repay in fiat), which might not have a big impact on the market because if money is given in fiat, even half of it, is used to buy BTC, it will recover its price in no time.

[OgNasty]

That is a lot of Bitcoin that will be hitting the market. No way to spin that. This isn’t the first time though. Bitcoin will survive. Major players may even view it as an opportunity to buy a lot of Bitcoin without moving the market. At some point sales like this will cease to happen and Bitcoin won’t have these headwinds. Just a matter of time.

[Fiatless]

This wouldn’t happen under a Trump administration. I’m not sure why Democrats would see this as any sort of priority when they have an election to try & win in under a month. This just seems like they are trying to annoy Republicans as it serves no real urgent need. Those coins have been hodled for 10 years, why on earth is there a need to sell them now. $4,000,000,000 is one day of US Gov spending, this is politics of revenge by the Democrats.  

The coins has been a subject of litigation since 2022. Maybe the government would have auctioned it if not for the legal challenge by Battle Born Investments. You have to be in government to know if there is an urgent need to sell them. Selling it at this time also doesn't make much sense to me since it is believed that the price of Bitcoin will increase during this period.  Most crypto enthusiasts want Trump to win the election, believing that he would make better policies. Should we trust politicians?

[Kelward]

People panic with everything that has to do with the US in relation to BTC, I have no doubt that this event will also have its short-term consequences. Even if the price drops by 10% or more, it will only be a good opportunity for all those who want to buy cheaper, so I don't see this as anything but a possible good opportunity.

However, perhaps the effects will depend on how BTC will be sold - at an auction directly to the best bidders, through the OTC or they will dump them directly on their favorite CEX.

When the US government decides to dump the seized BTC it'll naturally cause a panic because speculations will be very high about price dip. But I wouldn't worry because with my knowledge about Bitcoin, the effect of the massive sales will be on the short term. Price will recover and it'll be business as usual, it's not going to be the first time that we'll be experiencing such a scenerio. The bright side to this is that if the dip happens it'll create an opening for investors that has the funds to accumulate more Bitcoin. Hopefully after price recovery it'll skyrocket and we'll see the anticipated $100k price and beyond, I look forward to it.

[Marvell1]

Another news  that would impact the price of bitcoin.. will this result to Bitcoin dropping below $60k, or even more

This is bad news for all of us $4.4 Billion worth of BTC will be sold by the government and where will all that money go. That won't be discussed publicly but this selling can cause a huge dump in the price and I doubt the price of BTC can fall even below $55k this time.

We can only assume how bad can happen because here $4.4 billion worth of BTC will be sold, and on the other hand, FTX is going to repay a total of $14 billion to $16 billion in fiat (I am not sure, but I think they will repay in fiat), which might not have a big impact on the market because if money is given in fiat, even half of it, is used to buy BTC, it will recover its price in no time.

It would be considered negative news if you bought bitcoin at a higher price and had no intention of buying more in the future. But this will be positive news if you have faith in bitcoin and are always ready to collect more bitcoins every time the price drops.

Bitcoin market cap is over $1 trillion and daily trading volume is up to $50 billion so even if the US government sold that $4.4 billion I don't see anything scary. The market will likely react negatively to that selling pressure but if it can absorb all that bitcoin then it shows that the market is very healthy. For me, I only panic when they sell bitcoins to the market but there is no liquidity, that's when I panic.


If they sell bitcoins to the market, it means the amount of bitcoins they hold will decrease significantly and that is good for us and the market. Look at the positive side of things instead of just looking at the negative side.

[avp2306]

People panic with everything that has to do with the US in relation to BTC, I have no doubt that this event will also have its short-term consequences. Even if the price drops by 10% or more, it will only be a good opportunity for all those who want to buy cheaper, so I don't see this as anything but a possible good opportunity.

However, perhaps the effects will depend on how BTC will be sold - at an auction directly to the best bidders, through the OTC or they will dump them directly on their favorite CEX.

When the US government decides to dump the seized BTC it'll naturally cause a panic because speculations will be very high about price dip. But I wouldn't worry because with my knowledge about Bitcoin, the effect of the massive sales will be on the short term. Price will recover and it'll be business as usual, it's not going to be the first time that we'll be experiencing such a scenerio. The bright side to this is that if the dip happens it'll create an opening for investors that has the funds to accumulate more Bitcoin. Hopefully after price recovery it'll skyrocket and we'll see the anticipated $100k price and beyond, I look forward to it.

Usually it can cause panic since somehow the amount they are planning to sell is huge so provably that it can move the market. Although we don't know on when this event gonna happen or if they dump all or by batches. Maybe best for authorities to decide to sell it by batch so there's less damage will be created on this action they do.

Hopefully we won't see bitcoin to collapsed more since it will totally create huge panic to many people.

But waiting for this event to happen and make sure that I have funds to spend catching those dump since somehow this is perfect opportunity to accumulate since scenario like this is rare to happen. I believe bitcoin would recover after the fear of those dumps will fade out.

[Synchronice]

Bitcoin market cap is over $1 trillion and daily trading volume is up to $50 billion so even if the US government sold that $4.4 billion I don't see anything scary. The market will likely react negatively to that selling pressure but if it can absorb all that bitcoin then it shows that the market is very healthy. For me, I only panic when they sell bitcoins to the market but there is no liquidity, that's when I panic.

It will not have a significant impact on price, the only shocking thing here is that the news websites will promote articles with title "The USA sold 4.4 billion Bitcoin", then some people will panic and price will go down a little but it should recover well very soon because a similar accident happened recently when Germany sold 50,000 BTC.
For every wise person, any dump is a great opportunity right now because price is going up anyway. Bitcoin halving happened recently, ETF got approved recently, what's there to stop the upcoming bull run? Nothing! I think that the old bull run cycle will repeat and any dump before that is a good opportunity.

[Nwada001]

That is a lot of Bitcoin that will be hitting the market. No way to spin that. This isn’t the first time though. Bitcoin will survive. Major players may even view it as an opportunity to buy a lot of Bitcoin without moving the market. At some point sales like this will cease to happen and Bitcoin won’t have these headwinds. Just a matter of time.

Sometimes news like this causes panic in the market more than what the selling of that total amount can do.
 
Looking at that amount placed and on auction, if they don't limit the amount per user or institution can buy, institutional investors might even be the ones that will end up emptying that wallet during the auction, if they will allow them to acquire it.
 
Even if it's dumped in the market, it's not the first time, like you said, and the market will show a sign of a heavy sell, after which there will definitely be a U-turn.

[Faisal2202]

It would be considered negative news if you bought bitcoin at a higher price and had no intention of buying more in the future. But this will be positive news if you have faith in bitcoin and are always ready to collect more bitcoins every time the price drops.

Bitcoin market cap is over $1 trillion and daily trading volume is up to $50 billion so even if the US government sold that $4.4 billion I don't see anything scary. The market will likely react negatively to that selling pressure but if it can absorb all that bitcoin then it shows that the market is very healthy. For me, I only panic when they sell bitcoins to the market but there is no liquidity, that's when I panic.


If they sell bitcoins to the market, it means the amount of bitcoins they hold will decrease significantly and that is good for us and the market. Look at the positive side of things instead of just looking at the negative side.

You are right we must look at both sides and the good side, according to you is that the funds that's been in holding for some years will be available in the market for people to buy and if there are enough buyers, then the market won't react. I hope I got it right well you are right because it is all the game of demand and supply, and once there would be no liquidity, then things get tough but still with time we all know the price will recover, and after reading your post I feel less scare mean I think things are not that bad.

As I did not see the daily trading volume is up to $50 billion which is insane, if that's true, then these $4.4 billion will easily be absorbed and we won't see market panic and it will recover fast.