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October 11, 2024, 07:45:31 PM
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If you are from a family that loves to gamble, perhaps you are not the only one gambling there, it's very possible that you guys can use a different devices. Every one of you should have their own device (phone or laptop) that you are using to access the gambling site and you guys will not face the risk of account linking, leading to ban. As a matter of fact, some persons that are living in the same compound but different flats with me, are using the same bookie that I am using and for more than a year now, there's nothing like account linking because we don't share the same network and don't also use the same device.

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October 11, 2024, 07:47:38 PM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

Yes, that's their rule and that's what's on their terms ; whatever the situation or explanation that you give them, they will ban your account and confiscate your earnings so the ball is in your hands to make sure that no one among your family will create a second account, or you can ask the support for a second account if they can verify the second account.
What's important is that if you're going to break their rule and you want an exception, you have to contact the support for their clearance, Never assume that your explanation will save you when they restrict your account, because it will not.

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October 11, 2024, 08:09:19 PM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
This kind of case, you only need to chat up the casino support team and explain the incident. But the problem is if they will believe you or not. But I do not support the idea of giving out your device to someone for gambling, because if you are using this kind of casino that doesn't agree with the terms of using different accounts in one device you will be banned from them and if you have funds on your account/s all your money will be gone.
Some of this issues happened to gamblers that doesn't read the terms and conditions of the casino and when they encountered a situation like this that's the moment they will settle down to read the terms and conditions of the casino because they will want to know the reasons why their account was blocked.

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October 11, 2024, 08:28:39 PM
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Usually this will be a problem if in 1 house sharing IP with the same casino while the casino will definitely detect the same IP then this will be a risk that one of the accounts will be closed.

Yes maybe the best solution is to use a different casino maybe this will not be risky in this context.
Sometimes there are casinos that allow the same IP but this possibility is still rare, usually casinos have strict TOS in using casinos in 1 house with the same IP, except by using different wifi providers.

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October 11, 2024, 08:52:13 PM
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If you are from a family that loves to gamble, perhaps you are not the only one gambling there, it's very possible that you guys can use a different devices. Every one of you should have their own device (phone or laptop) that you are using to access the gambling site and you guys will not face the risk of account linking, leading to ban. As a matter of fact, some persons that are living in the same compound but different flats with me, are using the same bookie that I am using and for more than a year now, there's nothing like account linking because we don't share the same network and don't also use the same device.

Well some casinos do ban accounts with same IP address and from what the op is trying to say, most times same family members in same house may have the same IP address since they literally make use of the same home WI-FI but in reality the chances of that happening is very thin since like you said they  would likely have their individual devices and IP addresses are unique to different devices except maybe they use a static IP which can even cause connection problems.

The fact is accounts that usually get banned based on IP conflicts us usually because the same gambler attempted to create and make use of two different accounts on same casino using the same device.

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October 11, 2024, 10:01:29 PM
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Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

If it's a casino site that does requires KYC there's not going to be a problem about it because the system is aware that Multiple users could login on same device which would detect it's of two different IDs.
Also, the casino may track the transaction histories of the both accounts to know if they've both been running transaction such as funding or withdrawing to a particular or same account.

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October 11, 2024, 10:09:36 PM
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The real question is why would someone want to have different accounts for the same household?
If it's indeed a household and not a roommate situation, couldn't you arrange things with the same account?

I think the easiest solution though would just be to play at different casinos other than anything else. Why risk your balance and your progress when you could simply have accounts on different casinos and be perfectly safe?

I think this is the most common sense scenario because this way you can also keep an eye on better odds, better offers etc and notify each other in case someone wants to join in the action if there's a super good offer or something. If it's an account they don't access everyday mistakes are much less likely to happen.


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October 11, 2024, 11:02:57 PM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

It all depends on what the casino says in their terms and conditions therefore we should always read their rules before making use of their casinos. If the casino does not allow the use for the same IP address for gambling then you do not have any reason to open accounts for different users under the same IP address. In this situation, everybody should just gamble from one user account but if the casino does not say anything about IP address then you can open different accounts and verify your KYC so the support team can see that you are different individuals despite using the same IP address. We should not assume but follow the casinos rules and what they want because they are losing money always to multiple account that benefits from referral bonuses and the rest. At times I don't blame the casinos for being so strict.
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October 11, 2024, 11:04:47 PM
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The real question is why would someone want to have different accounts for the same household?
If it's indeed a household and not a roommate situation, couldn't you arrange things with the same account?


What he means is that what if two siblings that are into gambling and shares the same WiFi connection creates two account in the same site - this clears up that “2 accounts under the same household”.

And if the scenario I mentioned above is true then it won’t make sense for both of them to start gambling with the same accounts - they’ll obvious value their privacy and because of that they might not want the other to know how their gambling life is going.

The best way around it (if the site doesn’t allow this type of thing) is for them to gamble in a separate site - since you’ll be risking your money by continuing using that site it’s best you just look for a different one and use so they won’t be any issue of two accounts sharing the same ip address.

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October 11, 2024, 11:10:38 PM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
Yes, that's reasonable.
A rule is a rule and us as users, we have to understand that policy since having the same IP address is against to their rule whether you're doing it alone or with some genuinely gambles together with you, that won't play as an excuse. Because the abusers could also say the same thing and that's why most casinos are firm with that rule they have. Why not just use one account instead? but if you want to try it, it's better to get a confirmation and ask this to the support of the casino you are playing.

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October 11, 2024, 11:11:24 PM
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The real question is why would someone want to have different accounts for the same household?
If it's indeed a household and not a roommate situation, couldn't you arrange things with the same account?

What he means is that what if two siblings that are into gambling and shares the same WiFi connection creates two account in the same site - this clears up that “2 accounts under the same household”.

And if the scenario I mentioned above is true then it won’t make sense for both of them to start gambling with the same accounts - they’ll obvious value their privacy and because of that they might not want the other to know how their gambling life is going.

The best way around it (if the site doesn’t allow this type of thing) is for them to gamble in a separate site - since you’ll be risking your money by continuing using that site it’s best you just look for a different one and use so they won’t be any issue of two accounts sharing the same ip address.

If they do really want to pursue their gambling on the same site, what they can do is reach out the support of the site itself and ask their assistance on this dilemma. If the site is asking kyc, then, they should be willing to undergo such process. Just to prove that they are different persons but using the same IP. Better take precautions rather than freeze the funds and regret later.

I believe this matter can be handled by the site itself and the two players in the household. Better reach out to their support before assuming anything and use their services. It is always best to clarify things before sending any penny to the site.
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October 11, 2024, 11:50:36 PM
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the problem lies in the TOS of each gambling site. but usually IP is one of the benchmarks in dealing with multiple accounts. Most of them are very strict about this kind of thing to reduce various frauds.

it's just that, if for example the same IP address and exactly it may be indeed different people, have also done KYC, if you experience a problem, you just try to contact their CS by providing evidence related to different people. Wait for them to review. but if they stick to the main TOS, maybe they will still give sanctions.

oh yeah. can't you use a premium VPN to make a different IP? Maybe this is too risky, but I sometimes do it, especially since there are many online gambling sites that I can't open if I use my country's IP.

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October 12, 2024, 12:18:46 AM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

This is certainly a very high risk.
Currently, casinos can even identify the devices that are connected to their site, distinguishing a smartphone from a desktop, and they can even obtain the browser version and operating system, thus speculating that they are from different people.
However, even a person who wants to obtain an illicit advantage could be using different devices for each of their accounts.

I used to be an RPG game operator (nothing to do with gambling) and there it was possible for users to voluntarily indicate that player A and B shared the same IP address and thus we could create certain restrictions within the game for these two accounts, avoiding undue advantages. Perhaps casinos can do the same.

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If it's a casino site that does requires KYC there's not going to be a problem about it because the system is aware that Multiple users could login on same device which would detect it's of two different IDs.
Also, the casino may track the transaction histories of the both accounts to know if they've both been running transaction such as funding or withdrawing to a particular or same account.
Almost the average gambling site asks KYC to issue requirements and that is an obligation for users. The problem is whether it makes sense if the casino closes the account because you share the same IP, the answer still makes sense because they indeed have rules related to this problem. If we don't want to experience these problems, you should avoid something that does not happen that is not desirable.

If you don't want to have problems, you should play on different sites or vice versa using one account and all bets are installed on the account. It should be if one house will be much easier to manage bets on one account so there is no need to share IP.

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Better to ask live support if it is allowed to use the same IP with different devices?
Usually there are those who allow the same IP as long as the device is different so don't abuse any bonuses then this will trigger ongoing risks.

Maybe many people will advise not to use the same IP this is too risky. True because the casino will identify your IP.

Or you can try if there is a problem with when trying it?
Usually with small bets there is no problem, when it comes to big money then this will be questioned by the casino.

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October 12, 2024, 03:57:31 AM
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I don't think anyone would do something like this, they would definitely think twice before doing it because it would be very risky when the casino finds out that there is the same IP address in several different gambling account names.
But if it uses Wi-Fi, it might never be detected because when using Wi-Fi on several phones, each phone will show different IP, I have done some research and some of my acquaintances who understand about networks say that using Wi-Fi will indeed provide different IP address, but if I wrong, please correct me.
What is clear is that as gambler, must be able to choose what not to do and what to avoid in order to maintain and minimize the occurrence of suspension or freezing of the accounts they have, this is not only about the account but also maintaining the balance you have because when something bad happens and freeze is made, we will definitely lose that amount of money.
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October 12, 2024, 04:08:13 AM
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Pretty simple solution, make it so that every family member uses a different casino or bookie, there are hundreds of casinos out there, so there is no need to overcomplicate your life and make everyone in the family play there!
The best to me is to use different sims and devices. They can still use the same site if they have different sims and devices.

At one point you'll encounter KYC, and then the casino will know that there are two members of the same family playing there anymore as you will have the same address, same name, plus, if you use mobile data you might have a surprise of getting the same IP allocated over and over for both accounts as you'll both be in the range of the same cell tower, there is no point in doing it compared o the risks.

Let's say a family of 4 people using the same account, each of them play different games, one playing slots, one playing fantasy sport, one playing live casino, and another one playing dice. The casino might detect the account was used by bots because the account is really active and played by 4 people at the same time.

Personal opinion but in this situation I think the family has a different problem and closing down their account might be for the better!

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October 12, 2024, 05:12:08 AM
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Every old gambler who is on this forum must have known about the rules and certainly they will never violate the ToS that have been determined by the gambling party. And if there are gamblers here and have other families who gamble, they must use other gambling sites.
Luckily I have never had this problem because in my family I am the only one who gambles and if there is a possibility that a friend or anyone uses the same IP network in my house to gamble, I am sure they only gamble on local fiat gambling.
Staying away from risk is better.

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October 12, 2024, 05:23:17 AM
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If they do really want to pursue their gambling on the same site, what they can do is reach out the support of the site itself and ask their assistance on this dilemma. If the site is asking kyc, then, they should be willing to undergo such process. Just to prove that they are different persons but using the same IP. Better take precautions rather than freeze the funds and regret later.

This is a really good approach but don’t you think it would be better if they just used different sites? If the site gives them the go ahead to create the account then that’s fine but if it’s isn’t allowed and might result to them having issues with their account in the future then they should just go look for site that provide them same odds or even better and also has a good reputation.

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October 12, 2024, 05:28:06 AM
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

Super risky since casino only based multiple account connections to IP similarity. There’s no way to defend yourself against multiple account even if you are playing with a family to same casino since casino can’t verify it and there’s no way to verify it digitally.

Some casino specifically specify about the 1 player per IP on same household since they don’t want to deal with bunch of excuses by cheaters that want to blend in to legit players that play on same household.

This is why I never connect to public wifi and play gambling games. I always use mobile data when I’m outdoor.


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