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October 12, 2024, 02:01:38 PM
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You should name the casino and what what specific wealth of documents are asking. The casino usually asks for source of income and proof of income,, not titles of your lots or registrations of cars. I'm just assuming that they are asking for something similar to this.
That's unusual for a casino to ask for that information. Yes, they can ask for KYC because they abide on AMC guidelines but they are only limited to what they can ask because they are not the AMLAC.

It can have multiple names but the thing is the same, you can call it a source of income, source of wealth, source of funds, etc. And, I don't see anything odd in a casino platform or any other centralized financial platform to ask for your source of income, what's odd is they didn't ask for it at the time of making a deposit or doing KYC. Generally, a platform is supposed to confirm the source when a user is trying to deposit a large amount, only to make sure that the funds are coming from a legal source.

@OP, I don't know if you need consultancy, they have made it clear about what they want from you before you can withdraw your funds, so I guess you don't really have a choice because a firm will only charge you to give you the same advice, they are not going to contact the casino to exempt you from it.

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October 12, 2024, 02:11:23 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Gambling sites require KYC data or wealth documents from users for anti-money laundering or AML policies to obtain various types of licenses. But if you use gambling only for fun then use sites that allow you to gamble KYC free up to a certain amount. Because submitting your personal documents and asset documents to casino sites is very risky.  So try to avoid them. But if you are addicted to gambling and gamble a lot, you have to accept and submit them, you cannot avoid them.
that is were gambling foe fun statement for is not accurate with some people. You can't say gambling is for fun when you do KYC and other documentations. I have said this many times. You can't say gambling is for fun when you deposited good amount of money and play games. Many that are saying that gambling is for fun are not even gamblers but because they are seeing others saying it and they follow up to say it without knowing why gambling is for fun. If anyone want to gamble for then he has to visit a casino which offers free games without deposit. And once a gambler deposit, he would like to have profit from the game. And I think others have also said this which I have seen.

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October 12, 2024, 02:47:31 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Are you sure that this was what the casino asked from you? Besides I don't think it's possible for casino to ask for a wealth document from their customers, or is the casino a scam? KYC casinos always asked for KYC's but they gives an options either to use your passport or ID, so you can chose the one suitable for you. Because given out your information to an online company isn't that advisable.
I think the best thing for you to do right now is to block the casino account and focus on a reliable casino that have a good reputation, so that you will not end up share your personal (identity) informations to the wrong casino.

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October 12, 2024, 02:49:47 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

Run away. There are too many casinos that won't ask you to do that, which looks like a scam. In a bank it's reasonable, but not in a casino.

It's not a sign of a scam, and in casinos, it is usual to ask for proof of funds, which is, in other words source of wealth. This is to make sure that there is no laundering involved with the user's funds most probably asked to someone who deposit and withdraw too often with very less wagering just about meeting the wagering requirements to get off the withdrawal of deposited funds and if that's the case the funds has something to do with and definitely need to be investigated.

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October 12, 2024, 02:52:24 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks
Are you sure that this was what the casino asked from you? Besides I don't think it's possible for casino to ask for a wealth document from their customers, or is the casino a scam? KYC casinos always asked for KYC's but they gives an options either to use your passport or ID, so you can chose the ones the one suitable for you because given out your information to an online company isn't that advisable.
I think the best thing for you to do right now is to block the casino account and focus on a reliable casino that have a good reputation.

Check the first reply in this thread it was from a casino representative ( not the one the op is using though) and he confirmed that casinos asking for source of wealth is a thing and not just made up to chase players away and also I have seen someone else ask about the same thing - I can’t recall the thread or how they went about but the casino sure asked them to submit the source of wealth but the only difference with this one was that he was making use of crypto deposits so it became an issue for him to provide them with that information.

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October 12, 2024, 02:56:21 PM
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To meet anti-money laundering (AML) compliance, promote responsible gambling, and protect both the player and the casino, it is typically ethical for casinos to inquire about the source of a player's wealth. However, it is imperative that transparency and privacy are upheld to ensure that such inquiries remain non-intrusive and are not misused.

At Betflexi.com, we don't ask for that as we believe that player's privacy supersedes every other consideration. Asking for source of wealth is never a sure way to curb money laundering. There are far better and more sophisticated ways.
I love this last reply and it insists that source of wealth shouldn't be an issue for a potential gambler wanting to patronize a gambling centre or site. Its not as if gambling sites are a means for money launderers to launder their funds, because whether we like to accept or not, the gambling site or centre has much percentage to win from any bet a player plays and with every statistics, the gambling site wins more than the user or player could ever win, so why such demand for source of wealth documentation?
Not every job or work we do, has a salary structure that also has bank statements and that is a fact that remains to be seen.
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October 12, 2024, 02:56:59 PM
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I don't think there's someone to consult but the casino itself. You've probably triggered their security system and asked for further verification. I've read that you've already completed  KYC, which is frustrating to see that they're asking for source of funds. Have you been depositing large amounts of money in short time intervals? Which casino is it? I haven't heard of any confirmed cases of a casino asking for source of funds.

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I don't think it well help you much because they're only answering based on their or other people experience, but they don't have bargaining power to force the casino to change/lower the requirement that asked by the casino.

I guess it's better for you to create accusation against the casino, it will pressure the casino if they're on this forum.


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October 12, 2024, 03:12:37 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

If too much request to require submitting a source of wealth documents, leave the casino and play in another better casino and has proven his trust because every player wants to get a comfortable playing experience.
I want to say that the direction is similar to fraud, I'm afraid that I am wrong, but such case habits are more directed to fraud.

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October 12, 2024, 03:34:24 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

I don't really understand what you are referring to, but it seems like the gambling platform you are using implements KYC and indeed, in the KYC format will be asked toupload documents about the source of wealth as well. But on the other hand, you asked about companies or people who offer advice and/or assistance in gambling and I think,it exists and you can pay them for advice or maybe even betting options that you can choose for betting. But the point is, I personally don't use their services to bet but if it's about the source of wealth document,I believe it's part of the KYC that requires you  to upload somedocuments in that gambling platform.
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October 12, 2024, 04:59:14 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

If too much request to require submitting a source of wealth documents, leave the casino and play in another better casino and has proven his trust because every player wants to get a comfortable playing experience.
I want to say that the direction is similar to fraud, I'm afraid that I am wrong, but such case habits are more directed to fraud.
Customer convenience is something that all casinos definitely do and strive for, but with casinos that make unnecessary requests such as documents of source of wealth I think that's too much, besides is there really a casino that asks its customers to provide these documents? I think that can make customers feel uncomfortable or even uncomfortable, and that can make their casinos deserted of customers. Except with KYC I think that's still a reasonable thing.
You're right, maybe something like this is more towards fraud, so now with the many casinos that we can visit we have to be smart in choosing a casino, make sure the casino has a good reputation and doesn't ask things that don't seem to make sense like other general casinos. We have to be more careful, because of course we don't want to have problems.
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I have already completed the KYC procedure a long time ago. What I wanted to ask is if there are companies/people experienced in gambling platforms, who help and give support regarding gambling cases

We are not experts on gambling cases but what you have now could or have been experienced by gamblers here because we are all gamblers, and we are on the same boat when it comes to KYC and proof of income, so its better that you complete all the details and be specific on what the problems and what's the name of the casino and what type of documents they are asking.
I asked the name of the casino and the specific documents because there's a possibility that if the casino you're playing is popular in the community, there's a possibility that some of us here encountered the same issues from the casino you're playing, so they can guide you on how to proceed.

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October 12, 2024, 05:41:13 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks
Source of wealth document are what is supposed to be requested for in banks or an investment company as a document to shows where you actually got the money you intended to either save in bank or invest in an investment company. However, you alone at O.P knows where you got your money from, because I'm pretty sure for this casino to have requested for a Proof of Source of Wealth document, it's likely the amount must be huge, because such documents aren't requested for small amounts.  So a salary pay cheque could be a Source of Wealth document, and likewise a receipt for a sold item can also be a proof of source of wealth document.

 
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October 12, 2024, 06:52:20 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

Run away. There are too many casinos that won't ask you to do that, which looks like a scam. In a bank it's reasonable, but not in a casino.

Are you among the devs team when using the word "we" signifies that you are also among the casino operator, however, I wouldn't want to capitalize your statement but it's deem necessary for a casino and gambling site to asked about additional verification or source of wealth if they the money isn't coming from the right source, this is to fight against anti money laundering.

It looks like a copy-paste from the ToS, which would be plagiarism, as the source is not cited.
There are well known casinos that ask you to proof of income or whatever. You shouldn't give advice unless you know for sure what you are talking about. I disagree with having to show bank documents or whatever, but apparently it's a normal thing in the casino world.

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October 12, 2024, 07:01:17 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

You can post all the questions here so that you can get an answer from different member that has knowledge about casino requirements for KYC.

A source of wealth usually means your account is on high level of verification probably involved AML. A typical source of wealth is your job pay slip, statement of account from your bank and investment records. Anything that gives you your wealth but most of the time bank SOA is already enough unless you are accused for a serious violation.

What casino you are experiencing this?

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October 12, 2024, 08:26:04 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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It seems you usually deposit and withdraw high amounts with the casino for them to request for source of wealth documents from you. Some regulated casinos usually request for this to be sure they are not aiding criminal activities in their casino. If you are not sure of the reputation of the casino you are using, it is best you ignore them before you land yourself in a big mess.

I do not like the idea of submitting my financial information online and to total strangers I do not trust. You might be a potential target if the casino turns out to be fake or the casino's security is breached. In addition, submitting a source of wealth document will put more attention on your account as the casino will want to monitor virtually all your gambling activities with them. I would rather go for any casino that would not put my privacy at risks.

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October 12, 2024, 08:57:48 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Gambling sites require KYC data or wealth documents from users for anti-money laundering or AML policies to obtain various types of licenses. But if you use gambling only for fun then use sites that allow you to gamble KYC free up to a certain amount. Because submitting your personal documents and asset documents to casino sites is very risky.  So try to avoid them. But if you are addicted to gambling and gamble a lot, you have to accept and submit them, you cannot avoid them.
that is were gambling foe fun statement for is not accurate with some people. You can't say gambling is for fun when you do KYC and other documentations. I have said this many times. You can't say gambling is for fun when you deposited good amount of money and play games. Many that are saying that gambling is for fun are not even gamblers but because they are seeing others saying it and they follow up to say it without knowing why gambling is for fun. If anyone want to gamble for then he has to visit a casino which offers free games without deposit. And once a gambler deposit, he would like to have profit from the game. And I think others have also said this which I have seen.

Indeed the use of the statement "gambling for fun" can be said to be misused if the gambler make huge deposits to his casino account and gamble until all is exhausted. Though what some person classify as huge sum could be a penny for some rich dudes. To the best of my knowledge,  gambling for fun is when the gambler makes deposits and gamble with small stakes, not with the intention of becoming rich of the gambling outcome, but to catch some fun especially when you do it with friends or family. Its not the joy of any gambler to experience  severe loss from his deposits and this is where the topic of having fun while lossing comes in. It takes decipline  for one to have patience and gamble responsibly, while gambling the urge of increasing your stake or gamble more is always  present in our thoughts, it take only decipline to gamble without getting addicted.

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October 12, 2024, 10:03:09 PM
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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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The first thing you need to clarify is why you were asked to do that, are you trying to withdraw a big amount of money? Is that casino one that is widely known and it has a good reputation? Those two factors are really important, because if both of the answers to those questions are a no, then I do not see the point of complying with their request, since you could just move on and play in another casino that is not asking you to provide that information to them.
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October 13, 2024, 10:09:40 AM
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Are you among the devs team when using the word "we" signifies that you are also among the casino operator, however, I wouldn't want to capitalize your statement but it's deem necessary for a casino and gambling site to asked about additional verification or source of wealth if they the money isn't coming from the right source, this is to fight against anti money laundering.

It looks like a copy-paste from the ToS, which would be plagiarism, as the source is not cited.

I don’t think it is a case of plagiarism. I suspect he has some sort of partnership with the casino. I see they have a thread on the forum. I checked the posts on the thread and Dripstoil is very active on there and often uses “we” when replying comments on the thread like he is a representative of the casino. Also the casino link is on his profile which confirms his direct involvement with the casino.

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October 13, 2024, 10:28:49 AM
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Comply with what the Casino asks, if for example the casino asks you to do a level 3 verification for example where you have to include a source of funds then do it maybe that's the only way you can withdraw your money from the casino.

But I don't know exactly what case you are in that you need a consultant to ask this question, is it this difficult or is there big money behind it?

We are only here to guess, and maybe the solution you want can be immediately fulfilled with the consultant you want.



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