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October 12, 2024, 12:00:24 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2024, 05:34:41 PM by gigi0ne
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Hello, I don't know if this is the right place here, I hope so....

 I have a wallet that contains some bitcoin mined from march 2009 june 2009 by my brother.
Since they were worthless and he had changed his laptop he left everything there....
Now I found it and tried using it with version 0.95.

My problem  is this, it seems that no mining transaction is entered into the blockchain even though as soon as I open it (before it updates the blockchain) it tells me I have X bitcoin and shows me all the mining transactions. I preface, it has not done any transfer operation.

I am attaching one of these mining transactions hoping you can tell me something, even just an idea to recover them.

Thank's





gettransaction "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748"
{
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 437,
"generated" : true,
"blockhash" : "000000009df7cae8906f25033e7cd53fdb4fe04b338a94dfef8e6eda18649cc2",
"blockindex" : 0,
"blocktime" : 1243187650,
"txid" : "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748",
"walletconflicts" : [
],
"time" : 1243187650,
"timereceived" : 1243187650,
"details" : [
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "12bp69KNGPv3o5R8q1wbZBqAxtrv3GFS5P",
"category" : "generate",
"amount" : 50.00000000
}
],
"hex" : "01000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000fffff fff0c02b229010a062f503253482fffffffff0100f2052a0100000023210353534d9d8cdd7255dc 4eeac1a2e68004c75520917b775b0655f15cf073703be8ac00000000"
}
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October 12, 2024, 12:12:50 PM
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I'm no expert but i think thats 50btc. You have the private key?
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October 12, 2024, 12:35:55 PM
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You either need the wallet backup file or the private key. If the file is encrypted, you need the password to decrypt it. If you do not have any of this than the bitcoin address, you can not be able to have access to the coins.

But if someone is telling you that you can have access to and tell you to buy an encryptd wallet file, it is a scam.

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October 12, 2024, 12:56:17 PM
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I understand what you are passing through but since the wallet is not yours and the laptop has been changed, it will be a difficult task for you to achieve, because you don't have the private keys to his wallet, neither do you have the wallet back up file making recovering the wallet impossible. You should ask your brother about his private keys because I believe he knows better than you do, or is he not aware that you want to access his wallet.

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October 12, 2024, 01:15:55 PM
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Does not look legit.
Can't find the TX or the HEX anywhere on my explorer.
I'm on mobile & remote into my home network so I might be missing something so don't take it as 100% fact until someone else checks.

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October 12, 2024, 02:07:34 PM
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The transaction in question doesn't exist in the blockchain at all and that means that there is nothing to be recovered.
Chances are you have a fake wallet file.

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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0013.mediawiki
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  BIP: 13
  Layer: Applications
  Title: Address Format for pay-to-script-hash
  Author: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
  Comments-Summary: No comments yet.
  Comments-URI: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/Comments:BIP-0013
  Status: Final
  Type: Standards Track
  Created: 2011-10-18
BIP-13 was created in 2011. However, your transaction contains "/P2SH/" inside the coinbase.

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  BIP: 34
  Layer: Consensus (soft fork)
  Title: Block v2, Height in Coinbase
  Author: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
  Comments-Summary: No comments yet.
  Comments-URI: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/Comments:BIP-0034
  Status: Final
  Type: Standards Track
  Created: 2012-07-06
BIP-34 was created in 2012. But your transaction states "7464" as a block height, inside your coinbase transaction.

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"address" : "xxxxxx",
Why you are hiding your address? You already posted hex data of your transaction, so that anyone knows, that your public key is 027715db6e817d88968aaaba2c8bf17357fc013d9d0cfd17e2dc58d10ba8f4fd54

It doesn't exist on Bitcoin. And those coins are definitely not from 2009, but at least from 2012, if not later.
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October 12, 2024, 04:19:23 PM
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The post is completely wrong, or the values are purposely wrong.

The timestamp 1233713540 leads us to block 2933: https://mempool.space/block/00000000d6f0d7cee72dd0f0eb7de68e7daf9e00b09b0fc5ed3d07abeba185a1

But, the 3210 confirmations can't be true because that's only 3210 blocks back, which by my estimations, must be around August - September of this year (2024).

The public key and the tx id can't be found, which means they are purposely wrong.

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October 12, 2024, 05:43:44 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2024, 06:07:08 PM by gigi0ne
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Sorry, my mistake...I copied a test I did....

I corrected the post with the correct transaction data but I also put it below.. if you want more please ask..

I have everything, private key and wallet is not encrypted... but they seem to be gone

It was of little use to crypt the wallet in 2009, bitcoins were worthless and my brother understood less than nothing about these things... he read, installed and let mine a couple of months then closed and changed pc.

gettransaction "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748"
{
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 437,
"generated" : true,
"blockhash" : "000000009df7cae8906f25033e7cd53fdb4fe04b338a94dfef8e6eda18649cc2",
"blockindex" : 0,
"blocktime" : 1243187650,
"txid" : "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748",
"walletconflicts" : [
],
"time" : 1243187650,
"timereceived" : 1243187650,
"details" : [
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "12bp69KNGPv3o5R8q1wbZBqAxtrv3GFS5P",
"category" : "generate",
"amount" : 50.00000000
}
],
"hex" : "01000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000fffff fff0c02b229010a062f503253482fffffffff0100f2052a0100000023210353534d9d8cdd7255dc 4eeac1a2e68004c75520917b775b0655f15cf073703be8ac00000000"
}

I also attach 2 pictures

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZnSGOTjxlOm468SYtPEvSunn_W7P_Id&usp=drive_copy
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Kj_GQMzq04tIqdbTisTMPPVeP6Rt50g/view?usp=drive_link

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October 12, 2024, 06:13:49 PM
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Sorry, my mistake...I copied a test I did....

I corrected the post with the correct transaction data but I also put it below.. if you want more please ask..

I have everything, private key and wallet is not encrypted... but they seem to be gone

It was of little use to crypt the wallet in 2009, bitcoins were worthless and my brother understood less than nothing about these things... he read, installed and let mine a couple of months then closed and changed pc.

gettransaction "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748"
{
"amount" : 50.00000000,
"confirmations" : 437,
"generated" : true,
"blockhash" : "000000009df7cae8906f25033e7cd53fdb4fe04b338a94dfef8e6eda18649cc2",
"blockindex" : 0,
"blocktime" : 1243187650,
"txid" : "ef4fbf9cbca98540ea043c1a12b906af176b2d8a50f4dddfa10632e94a1bb748",
"walletconflicts" : [
],
"time" : 1243187650,
"timereceived" : 1243187650,
"details" : [
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "12bp69KNGPv3o5R8q1wbZBqAxtrv3GFS5P",
"category" : "generate",
"amount" : 50.00000000
}
],
"hex" : "01000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000fffff fff0c02b229010a062f503253482fffffffff0100f2052a0100000023210353534d9d8cdd7255dc 4eeac1a2e68004c75520917b775b0655f15cf073703be8ac00000000"
}

I also attach 2 pictures






12bp69KNGPv3o5R8q1wbZBqAxtrv3GFS5P -> this address is empty and never used in the past.

The confirmations are still wrong.

Everything is wrong.

Nobody is going to click on the google drive links, for privacy reasons.

Sorry, but you look like you troll.

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October 12, 2024, 06:20:09 PM
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I understand what you are passing through but since the wallet is not yours and the laptop has been changed, it will be a difficult task for you to achieve, because you don't have the private keys to his wallet, neither do you have the wallet back up file making recovering the wallet impossible. You should ask your brother about his private keys because I believe he knows better than you do, or is he not aware that you want to access his wallet.

I'm not trying to steal anything,
he left the pc in the garage for 16 years, now he left us
and his wife asked me to take all the computers away.

however I have all keys, passwords etc..

see the image on previous post..
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12bp69KNGPv3o5R8q1wbZBqAxtrv3GFS5P -> this address is empty and never used in the past.

The confirmations are still wrong.

Everything is wrong.

Nobody is going to click on the google drive links, for privacy reasons.

Sorry, but you look like you troll.

How do I post the images?
and I am not a troll
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October 12, 2024, 06:33:05 PM
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I will not click any link, for security reasons.

So you claim that you have the private key, but the wallet is empty? If so, which is the address that used to have the bitcoins that is now emptied?

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October 12, 2024, 06:41:42 PM
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let's get this straight, the original blk00000.dat (the one saved on the disk),
is 16.8mb and was last modified on July 2, 2009 at 6:06 pm.

in this blockchain all mining transitions exist, is when the program updates
the blockchain all transitions go to 0/unconfirmed.

and anyway yes i have all the private keys.

the wallet is what you say it's never been used, if you mean for transfers,
definitely never been used, only for mining

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October 12, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
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let's get this straight, the original blk00000.dat (the one saved on the disk),
is 16.8mb and was last modified on July 2, 2009 at 6:06 pm.

in this blockchain all mining transitions exist, is when the program updates
the blockchain all transitions go to 0/unconfirmed.

and anyway yes i have all the private keys.

the wallet is what you say it's never been used, if you mean for transfers,
definitely never been used, only for mining

Alright, let's see.
When you say you have the private keys, what exactly do you have? A wallet.dat file?

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October 12, 2024, 07:03:03 PM
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yes and I used dumpprivkey <address> to extract the private key...

If I could show you the two images it would take much less time....
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October 12, 2024, 07:08:32 PM
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yes and I used dumpprivkey <address> to extract the private key...

If I could show you the two images it would take much less time....

There is no reason to see pictures my friend, I am ok with the info you have posted.

So, since you have the private keys, have you imported them into Electrum for example? To check if they lead to any UTXO?

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October 12, 2024, 07:12:41 PM
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yes imported all on electrum.. (is more then one)

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October 12, 2024, 07:15:03 PM
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Are you absolutely sure that these addresses used to be funded?
Share some of the addresses with as.

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October 12, 2024, 07:26:45 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2024, 07:49:50 PM by gigi0ne
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Are you absolutely sure that these addresses used to be funded?
Share some of the addresses with as.

I did a transaction export is that okay?

"true","2009-02-26T23:56:24","Mined","","14ST7DPUUuGjLF8Ups8pwaw4axDbZkFgXi","50.00","d4a5ac52d3a9bd89673847cb1dbfa8db744fa7be730014ddd1d7001f66b957c9-000"
"true","2009-02-26T23:46:11","Mined","","13ebUvauPqSDrcCYRPsDzWCDYaowGqUCo5","50.00","3105fd3984b44837322246d6098e38f0bb4861f4c2ce043e3d9f6dc428c57a9b-000"
"true","2009-02-26T23:34:57","Mined","","12tQPs7eJ8rQG5zkpoMS6pCRSvsh8Ybhse","50.00","94c392a839ec6bd0f324cfaffae9ba2685521ccc5242910ac4281b82399ea509-000"

he started mining on February 4 and mined until May 28, but those with enough confirmations stop on May 27.

the ones after that have less than 101 approvals

can i write to you privately? i have more information but i don't know whether to write it here....
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