An obviously off-topic thread in the Speculation section.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

At first you might think that this is just a funny way of doing sport, but no, if you know anything about physical education, doing 100 push-ups a day is bollocks to begin with, but here's what's most relevant:

I imagine it's a fake, but if Satoshi really said that, in this case he said some nonsense. You can be very intelligent and say some nonsense from time to time, it's not incompatible.

And in this case, to think that doing 100 push-ups has anything to do with what happens in the price has more to do with going with a loincloth than with any rational speculation.

That does not belong to speculation, as the first comment says:

This may seem related to bitcoin speculation but it is not bitcoin speculation at all. We are not speculation on bitcoin price but to know if someone can know if he or she can go up to 100 push ups before bitcoin hit six digits. This belongs to off-topic.

I'm going to report it again to off topic. I'm sure it won't grow at the rate of 22 pages a month there.

Edit, I was going to report it and I see this:

Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues.

[PX-Z]

That's called humour, it's not related to sport or to the bitcoin price itself, only people who call it "nonsense" can't get the humour.
But that text/phrase, idk if its actual said by satoshi to Sirius (Martini) in an email conversation publicized by Martini, check https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/

[God Of Thunder]

Apart from what you have mentioned, this thread became heaven for the merit farmers and abusers. Whether they do the pushups or not, they report regularly to get some merits, and some forum members never disappoint them. I have been checking some profiles lately and noticed they use some threads to farm merits, and this thread is one of them. Another one is the Buy Dip Hold thread, which they use.

I assume the screenshot you posted is just an edited one. The bold text looks edited. But even if it's not edited, I don't think Satoshi ever said something like that. I will be happy if I get proved wrong.

[joker_josue]

That's called humour, it's not related to sport or to the bitcoin price itself, only people who call it "nonsense" can't get the humour.
But that text/phrase, idk if its actual said by satoshi to Sirius (Martini) in an email conversation publicized by Martini, check https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/

I assume the screenshot you posted is just an edited one. The bold text looks edited. But even if it's not edited, I don't think Satoshi ever said something like that. I will be happy if I get proved wrong.

The image has been edited. In the link where Martini's emails are found, email #129 does not say anything like that. And nowhere does the term “push-ups” appear.

In the end, it's all just a joke, which I see no harm in doing. And I also don't consider it spam, as they are not doing anything wrong, and are literally speculating the price. Probably one day they will achieve the proposed objective.

As for those who are there in search of merit, that is the responsibility of those who give them merit. As has already been widely debated, the criteria for attributing merit is individual, and it is not the existence of this type of topic, which prevents merits from being distributed as each person wants.

[Nheer]

Apart from what you have mentioned, this thread became heaven for the merit farmers and abusers. Whether they do the pushups or not, they report regularly to get some merits, and some forum members never disappoint them. I have been checking some profiles lately and noticed they use some threads to farm merits, and this thread is one of them. Another one is the Buy Dip Hold thread, which they use.

I also noticed the same thing too that some users farm merits in most of this threads and take advantage of the merit sources active in those threads but then I observed that they don’t just issue out merits without reading a post and they don’t merit low quality posts or spammers so they still have make good posts even though they just keep repeating themselves over and over again although there are some informative posts in the thread “Buy the Dip and Hodl”.

As for 100 push up challenge i don’t think those farming merits actually keep up with the pushups they are clearly after the merits. Only a few people on that thread will be consistent with the push ups. If they can keep up I don’t see anything wrong in the challenge, it’s actually a good way to be healthy and keep fit.

[PX-Z]

That's called humour, it's not related to sport or to the bitcoin price itself, only people who call it "nonsense" can't get the humour.
But that text/phrase, idk if its actual said by satoshi to Sirius (Martini) in an email conversation publicized by Martini, check https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/

I assume the screenshot you posted is just an edited one. The bold text looks edited. But even if it's not edited, I don't think Satoshi ever said something like that. I will be happy if I get proved wrong.

The image has been edited. In the link where Martini's emails are found, email #129 does not say anything like that. And nowhere does the term “push-ups” appear...

I checked the link and based on the screenshot's date it should be "Email #1" in Martini's page, the rest are edited. So yeah, it's just a joke and as i said, it's all about the humor as there's no connection about it on btc price lol.
The thread just continued for several pages due to price speculation with the edited screenshot taken from Satoshi's convo with Sirius which is the interesting part.

[Oshosondy]

The image was not there before if I can remember. This is the unedited topic: https://ninjastic.space/topic/5484350. I am not saying the image is real or not real but it might not be real.

I think the reason moderator thought it does not belong to off-topic is because of how it is connected to bitcoin price. Like if it gone trendy, more people can also know about bitcoin from there.

[ABCbits]

I don't think it's stupid. But it could follow Wall Observer's treatment, where the thread doesn't show signature.

[wiss19]

I don't think it's stupid. But it could follow Wall Observer's treatment, where the thread doesn't show signature.

Or we may need a new sub in the name of "BTC fun zone" along the sides of off-topic and serious discussion, bcoz of rapid growing of serious bitcoiners

[Cryptokuus]

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

At first you might think that this is just a funny way of doing sport, but no, if you know anything about physical education, doing 100 push-ups a day is bollocks to begin with, but here's what's most relevant:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/24/YhGpJ.jpeg

I imagine it's a fake, but if Satoshi really said that, in this case he said some nonsense. You can be very intelligent and say some nonsense from time to time, it's not incompatible.

And in this case, to think that doing 100 push-ups has anything to do with what happens in the price has more to do with going with a loincloth than with any rational speculation.

That does not belong to speculation, as the first comment says:

This may seem related to bitcoin speculation but it is not bitcoin speculation at all. We are not speculation on bitcoin price but to know if someone can know if he or she can go up to 100 push ups before bitcoin hit six digits. This belongs to off-topic.

I'm going to report it again to off topic. I'm sure it won't grow at the rate of 22 pages a month there.

Edit, I was going to report it and I see this:

Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues.

I actually visited the thread you called stupid, well to me there is nothing wrong with the thread , The thread is just a kind of challenge which every member of Bitcointalk is welcome to join while speculating that Bitcoin will reach $100k and I think that thread is good for every members of Bitcointalk because of health benefits. you even joined the challenge from what I saw in the thread so why the change of mind.lastly the thread was created by high rank member, OgNasty and i believe the merit source there dont just give out merit to post that is not worth it.so there is nothing stupid about it.

[Lucius]

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I'm going to report it again to off topic. I'm sure it won't grow at the rate of 22 pages a month there.
Edit, I was going to report it and I see this:

Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues.

Regardless of the warning, it does not prevent you from reporting that thread. I know that topic exists, but I didn't pay attention to the same one because it's quite meaningless to me, and if we're going to be honest, it's more appropriate for something like that to be in Off-topic than in the Speculation board.

If we're going to be completely honest, if it was started by a beginner or a low-ranking member, that topic would have been moved a long time ago - although those who expressed their "support" would certainly not agree with that.

[Alone055]

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

You are being completely unreasonable here. I don't see anything wrong with that thread or those posting in it, besides, the thread has some very active and high-quality members of the forum, so I'm pretty sure they are doing something that isn't harmful for the forum or for the participants of the challenge. A 100 Push-ups a day for a healthy person is not a big deal, no one is supposed to do them all at once. Any regular person with a good enough physique can do at least 40 to 50 push-ups at once, as far as I know. So it's not a bad or harmful thing to do even if it's done for fun or done as a challenge.

I imagine it's a fake, but if Satoshi really said that, in this case he said some nonsense. You can be very intelligent and say some nonsense from time to time, it's not incompatible.

Come on now, even a kid would get the humor in that and know that it's just editing and it's done for fun. I literally see nothing wrong with that, I had a chuckle when I first read that.

Apart from what you have mentioned, this thread became heaven for the merit farmers and abusers. Whether they do the pushups or not, they report regularly to get some merits, and some forum members never disappoint them. I have been checking some profiles lately and noticed they use some threads to farm merits, and this thread is one of them. Another one is the Buy Dip Hold thread, which they use.

I checked and didn't see unusual meriting in the thread. It's not like every user posting in that thread is surely getting merits from other users but only the posts that are worth meriting are getting merits. Besides, even if users get a merit or a couple by lying about the reports they are making and aren't actually doing the exercises, I believe it's their loss, at the end of the day.

[Russlenat]

That thread might look like spam, but most of the posters there aren’t spammers. It might seem silly to you, but others love that thread, and as someone mentioned earlier, it’s all about humor. Honestly, I’d rather see threads like that where people are probably enjoying themselves than those serious threads that eventually just turn into a spam hub with the same repetitive posts. At least with this one, you’ll see some fun developments every now and then… lol. Just let them be, mate. If you think the thread is stupid, that’s fine, because Bitcoin is going wild right now--it’s already a crazy bull run!

[Eternad]

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

Credits to the merit hunter spammer to make it possible. You will notice that same group of user keep spamming same Bitcoin thread like El Salvador thread that is still active and the buy the dip.

It’s easy to accomplish a plus 1 post and a higher chance of merit on that thread due to the merit source active on these thread.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The image has been edited.

That seems pretty clear, and although I agree it was done (probably) for purposes of humor, it's not exactly funny.  One thing this forum seriously lacks is personalities who can do genuine humor through writing.  Anyway.

As far as that thread attracting merit farmers and similar members with similar motives, show me a thread in a section like Bitcoin Discussion or any of the altcoin sections that doesn't act as a magnet for those idiots.  That's why whenever I've created a self-moderated thread, I rarely get shitposters in it.  Presumably people know I'll nuke their moronic nonsense without hesitation. 

OP, you mentioned doing 100 pushups a day is nonsense for anyone who knows anything about physical education....I'm curious as to why you wrote that.  I'm no expert in that field, but I'd think it'd be great for increasing arm strength if not the price of bitcoin, no?  I am truly wondering about that (not that I'd be able to even get close to 100 pushups in this lifetime).

[ibminer]

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

Definitely lame. Maybe not the stupidest on bitcointalk, but still pretty lame.

A) It was started ~2 weeks after he threatened to knock out & auction the teeth of another member here. (Og flexing his cyber muscles?  )
B) It's an easy way for paid signature spammers to keep up with their quotas.
edit:
C) It intentionally uses a fake screenshot to misrepresent satoshi for reputational gain. (shades of CSW)
D) It is a workout thread under a Bitcoin speculation board.

I feel bad for anyone pulled into it who think it is being done purely for good reasons like health and physical fitness, they should continue to work towards their own health goals since the premise of 100 push-ups a day isn't a bad one, and the idea of 100 push-ups a day has been around well before Og... but it really shouldn't be surprising to anyone who knows the guy that he would use fake info. and trickery to get people to support his manipulative behaviors.

[nutildah]

I mean nowadays, because when I registered there was a lot of spam, but someone tell me this isn't stupid.

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

There are stupider threads, but as far as being a hub for merit farmers, yes its among the stupidest. Lets name n shame some of the worst offenders (meaning they are filled with spammy posts by merit farmers):

[CHALLENGE] Run A Bitcoin Node: 14 Days To 14 Merits
Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 13/04/2024
Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements that makes you feel great!
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed
[v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank...
El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender!
Buy the DIP, and HODL!

I want to note that I think these threads were started with good intentions, but became targets for merit hunters & muti-accounters.

Threads that are merit-free, zero-IQ spamfests that should be locked:

La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25
Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]
Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025
Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)
Cricket match prediction discussions
Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread
UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

No offense to people who like these sports, but if the majority of your posts are found in a combination of any of the above-mentioned threads, that means they most likely suck, and you most likely run multiple accounts on the forum. That's just based on my empirical experience with the forum.

[Eternad]

Threads that are merit-free, zero-IQ spamfests that should be locked:

La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25
Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]
Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025
Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)
Cricket match prediction discussions
Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread
UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

No offense to people who like these sports, but if the majority of your posts are found in a combination of any of the above-mentioned threads, that means they most likely suck, and you most likely run multiple accounts on the forum. That's just based on my empirical experience with the forum.

It’s the safest thread to post the gambling post quota for signature campaign. There’s a lot of user that fall directly to your description which most of their post quota only revolves on that thread.

This kind of mega thread isn’t have any value anymore when we talk about the effectiveness of signature campaign on that area since almost a spam fest out there.

[BlackHatCoiner]

People need to stop taking random ideas on the Internet too literally. OgNasty thought of doing pushups and encouraged everyone to follow him. To me, that's fun and healthy, because it creates an environment of patience and discipline, while it keeps a fun character.

Obviously, if you don't regularly exercise, doing 100 pushups in a day will destroy you. So, use your brain before the Internet.

[Faisal2202]

Apart from what you have mentioned, this thread became heaven for the merit farmers and abusers. Whether they do the pushups or not, they report regularly to get some merits, and some forum members never disappoint them. I have been checking some profiles lately and noticed they use some threads to farm merits, and this thread is one of them. Another one is the Buy Dip Hold thread, which they use.

I assume the screenshot you posted is just an edited one. The bold text looks edited. But even if it's not edited, I don't think Satoshi ever said something like that. I will be happy if I get proved wrong.

174 pages I mean damn! haha, what might they be talking about there? I did not come to see this topic before, or maybe I don't remember. If merit spamming is happening here, then the chance to catch them is so low, as the OP said clearing the topic is hard, so he failed to report it to the moderators.

The screenshot is definitely edited, not the bold text, because if you will see the email archives, it is in its original form. The pic they used has a serial number of 129th Email and on the archive, send to Marti is the following.

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:57:36 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: RC2
To: mmalmi@cc.hut.fi
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote:
> The first time I tried it on Windows, the initial download took a few
> minutes to start, even though it got many connections quickly. I tried
> again twice, and didn't have the same problem again. I don't know
> whether it's related to your latest update or not.

Most of the fixes are on the sender's side, so if you were downloading the network upgrades to 0.2.

How long did the initial download take?

After Google Lensing the humorous picture I only found source on Twitter means it don't have any official source either so it surely proves its fake.

PS: Advance congratulations on completing your 1000 merits you will achieve the legendary rank soon.