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December 08, 2024, 11:09:00 PM
Last edit: December 08, 2024, 11:23:26 PM by DaNNy001
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Cry harder.

Good point. If I create a thread "I cry every day until Bitcoin reaches $1 million or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes later", that'd be totally on-topic in Speculation I assume.

Lol 🤣, why not give it a try. Am sure we will all contribute in crying till Bitcoin gets to the target.

I think everyone just relates fine to the idea of doing push ups although many aren't actually doing the push but I mean it's the internet space who can really tell if anyone is actually doing what they are saying but that's what makes it more interesting just relate with it, I mean JayJaunGee gets it😁

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I like how people that call me narcissistic can't stop saying my name.  If I am a narcissist, you realize that is the sort of thing that would make me harder than Ross Ulbright at a strip club on January 21st.  I digress...  It's all about community and being healthy and wealthy.  When I started that thread Bitcoin was priced at $42,571.91.  It was most certainly speculation at the time that we would ever hit $100,000 and committing to do 100 push-ups per day on that speculation Bitcoin would more than double showed a massive set of danglers (this must be one of those attempts at self-promotion that is found to be distasteful).

Who's yo daddy?  Cheesy

Are you guys saying this isn't a real message from satoshi?  I've been duped!  Now I know how Gavin Andresen felt.

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December 10, 2024, 03:28:22 PM
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I think everyone just relates fine to the idea of doing push ups although many aren't actually doing the push...

This is as clear as day.

When I started that thread Bitcoin was priced at $42,571.91.  It was most certainly speculation at the time that we would ever hit $100,000 and...

To that end you created a thread in which people report doing push ups when you don't have to be very smart to see that few do them, not even you, and that if it had been opened by someone else it wouldn't have taken long to be trashed as befits the shitty thread it is.

You have created a WO thread about push ups but with visible signatures.

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December 10, 2024, 03:56:26 PM
 #244

Cry harder.

Good point. If I create a thread "I cry every day until Bitcoin reaches $1 million or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes later", that'd be totally on-topic in Speculation I assume.

Lol 🤣, why not give it a try. Am sure we will all contribute in crying till Bitcoin gets to the target.

I think everyone just relates fine to the idea of doing push ups although many aren't actually doing the push but I mean it's the internet space who can really tell if anyone is actually doing what they are saying but that's what makes it more interesting just relate with it, I mean JayJaunGee gets it😁

bruh

i stated in that thread i have done 3 (three) pushups since the thread started.

are you implying i could be......   lying???
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December 10, 2024, 06:49:13 PM
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~.. and hey I am no kind of a OgNasty fan boi, either, since I find some of his attempts at self-promotion to be a bit distasteful..... but still in the end, it seems to me that OgNasty took that thread idea from pushup activities that were already happening in other bitcoin spaces and in other forums (and discussion places - and even podcasts) at the time, and even being discussed at various places on the forum, at least in the WO thread, and so Ognasty took the thread idea from an existing push-up phenomena that was happening in and around bitcoin, and sure the thread might have helped the pushup phenomena to spread even more within various bitcoin circles and to have further outreach for the idea (even if imitated)... and also DirtyKeyboard took it to another level with his daily pushup report reading script.. another kind of innovation that others might be able to copy or imitate..~
It seems like you are saying Og took an idea from others to help him make money (I can see this, wouldn't be the first time), he used a fake satoshi screenshot on it for gimmick support, then someone created a script to read the thread to collect and post results.... and these are innovative to you??   To each his own I guess. Smiley

I like how people that call me narcissistic can't stop saying my name.
If your name were that important, you wouldn't have to try name-dropping Gavin & Ross!

If I am a narcissist, you realize that is the sort of thing that would make me harder than Ross Ulbright at a strip club on January 21st.  I digress... 
https://youtu.be/QtP39b5goxc?si=FI1qBTNwvzh1C4f1

It's all about community and being healthy and wealthy.
*shrug*, no speculating price discussion.

Are you guys saying this isn't a real message from satoshi?  I've been duped!  Now I know how Gavin Andresen felt.~
Is he claiming gullibility here?  *shrug*  I don't really believe Og is capable of experiencing the type of remorse Gavin did. Undecided

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December 10, 2024, 09:19:37 PM
 #246

Cry harder.

Good point. If I create a thread "I cry every day until Bitcoin reaches $1 million or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes later", that'd be totally on-topic in Speculation I assume.

Lol 🤣, why not give it a try. Am sure we will all contribute in crying till Bitcoin gets to the target.

I think everyone just relates fine to the idea of doing push ups although many aren't actually doing the push but I mean it's the internet space who can really tell if anyone is actually doing what they are saying but that's what makes it more interesting just relate with it, I mean JayJaunGee gets it😁

bruh

i stated in that thread i have done 3 (three) pushups since the thread started.

are you implying i could be......   lying???

C'mon man, you should know better that I didn't call you specifically a lie just pointed out a fact and besides the phrase was "anyone" which does not imply directly to you 😁 but still don't take it the wrong way but it's the truth this is an internet space. There are lots of users who are actually doing the push up in that thread and you can be one of those but even you yourself know it's not everyone that's doing it.

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December 10, 2024, 10:34:27 PM
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There are lots of users who are actually doing the push up in that thread and you can be one of those but even you yourself know it's not everyone that's doing it.

I said this thing earlier in this thread, but differently because if you don't have proof that they aren't doing the pushups, you don't have the right to say that they are lying. I know it applies on both sides, but I can't entirely agree with the point that people on that thread are doing this to earn money from their signature campaigns or to complete their post quota because I don't think any sensible campaign manager would count posts where you are making a report in a challenge you are participating in where your post doesn't have any semantic load or quality. And, if a poster is writing a long enough post with some analysis and stuff and the post has some quality, I don't see anything wrong in it if such posts are counted towards their post quotas.

Also, some members such as OgNasty, JayJuanGee, Igebotz, and philipma1957, among others, don't need a specific thread to complete their weekly posts because they efficiently do it outside of that thread. It sounds illogical to say that they are fighting to keep the thread in the Speculation section so that their posts are counted for their signature campaigns. I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't make it any difficult for the participants of that challenge to complete their weekly posts even if the thread is moved to Off-topic, but I don't think the thread belongs to Off-topic because even if there is a challenge involved, the thread is still about speculating about Bitcoin's price.
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December 10, 2024, 10:37:12 PM
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Thinking that people aren’t doing 100 push-ups per day says a lot about you… I think people are doing them because it isn’t incredibly hard. I can do 80 push-ups in a set now but usually only do 60 in the morning. It barely takes a minute of my time before brushing my teeth. Why fake that instead of just spending a minute or two a day to look and feel like a Greek God? Pretty sure I tore a muscle in my side yesterday moving my foosball table and new living room set and I’m still doing my push-ups. There are levels to this…

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There are lots of users who are actually doing the push up in that thread and you can be one of those but even you yourself know it's not everyone that's doing it.

I said this thing earlier in this thread, but differently because if you don't have proof that they aren't doing the pushups, you don't have the right to say that they are lying. I know it applies on both sides, but I can't entirely agree with the point that people on that thread are doing this to earn money from their signature campaigns or to complete their post quota because I don't think any sensible campaign manager would count posts where you are making a report in a challenge you are participating in where your post doesn't have any semantic load or quality. And, if a poster is writing a long enough post with some analysis and stuff and the post has some quality, I don't see anything wrong in it if such posts are counted towards their post quotas.

Also, some members such as OgNasty, JayJuanGee, Igebotz, and philipma1957, among others, don't need a specific thread to complete their weekly posts because they efficiently do it outside of that thread. It sounds illogical to say that they are fighting to keep the thread in the Speculation section so that their posts are counted for their signature campaigns. I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't make it any difficult for the participants of that challenge to complete their weekly posts even if the thread is moved to Off-topic, but I don't think the thread belongs to Off-topic because even if there is a challenge involved, the thread is still about speculating about Bitcoin's price.

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December 11, 2024, 05:01:16 AM
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~.. and hey I am no kind of a OgNasty fan boi, either, since I find some of his attempts at self-promotion to be a bit distasteful..... but still in the end, it seems to me that OgNasty took that thread idea from pushup activities that were already happening in other bitcoin spaces and in other forums (and discussion places - and even podcasts) at the time, and even being discussed at various places on the forum, at least in the WO thread, and so Ognasty took the thread idea from an existing push-up phenomena that was happening in and around bitcoin, and sure the thread might have helped the pushup phenomena to spread even more within various bitcoin circles and to have further outreach for the idea (even if imitated)... and also DirtyKeyboard took it to another level with his daily pushup report reading script.. another kind of innovation that others might be able to copy or imitate..~
It seems like you are saying Og took an idea from others to help him make money (I can see this, wouldn't be the first time), he used a fake satoshi screenshot on it for gimmick support, then someone created a script to read the thread to collect and post results.... and these are innovative to you??   To each his own I guess. Smiley

In spite of your expressed concerns, I have no reason to not stand by the statements that I already made.

There are lots of users who are actually doing the push up in that thread and you can be one of those but even you yourself know it's not everyone that's doing it.
I said this thing earlier in this thread, but differently because if you don't have proof that they aren't doing the pushups, you don't have the right to say that they are lying. I know it applies on both sides, but I can't entirely agree with the point that people on that thread are doing this to earn money from their signature campaigns or to complete their post quota because I don't think any sensible campaign manager would count posts where you are making a report in a challenge you are participating in where your post doesn't have any semantic load or quality. And, if a poster is writing a long enough post with some analysis and stuff and the post has some quality, I don't see anything wrong in it if such posts are counted towards their post quotas.

It seems to be up to any campaign manager if they want to pay for posts in that thread or not.  Many of them might not be very worked up about paying for posts in that particular thread.

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December 11, 2024, 06:06:34 AM
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~.. and hey I am no kind of a OgNasty fan boi, either, since I find some of his attempts at self-promotion to be a bit distasteful..... but still in the end, it seems to me that OgNasty took that thread idea from pushup activities that were already happening in other bitcoin spaces and in other forums (and discussion places - and even podcasts) at the time, and even being discussed at various places on the forum, at least in the WO thread, and so Ognasty took the thread idea from an existing push-up phenomena that was happening in and around bitcoin, and sure the thread might have helped the pushup phenomena to spread even more within various bitcoin circles and to have further outreach for the idea (even if imitated)... and also DirtyKeyboard took it to another level with his daily pushup report reading script.. another kind of innovation that others might be able to copy or imitate..~
It seems like you are saying Og took an idea from others to help him make money (I can see this, wouldn't be the first time), he used a fake satoshi screenshot on it for gimmick support, then someone created a script to read the thread to collect and post results.... and these are innovative to you??   To each his own I guess. Smiley

In spite of your expressed concerns, I have no reason to not stand by the statements that I already made.

If either of you think me starting the push-ups challenge thread was me stealing ideas from others to make me money then you are a fucking idiot.

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You have created a WO thread about push ups but with visible signatures.

And the problem here is? What exactly?

I am asking because I am pretty sure you already know that most sig camp managers don’t pay for posts that were sent in mega threads. Since all the managers check all the posts of the campaign participants manually, they can decide not to pay for those posts.

And even then, I don’t see why you are so concerned. Have you reported the thread? Good. Then it is a decision for the mods now.

Ironically you’ll have your mega WO thread here soon which is based on OG’s mega thread.

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December 11, 2024, 07:49:52 AM
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You have created a WO thread about push ups but with visible signatures.

And the problem here is? What exactly?

I am asking because I am pretty sure you already know that most sig camp managers don’t pay for posts that were sent in mega threads. Since all the managers check all the posts of the campaign participants manually, they can decide not to pay for those posts.

And even then, I don’t see why you are so concerned. Have you reported the thread? Good. Then it is a decision for the mods now.

Ironically you’ll have your mega WO thread here soon which is based on OG’s mega thread.

Congratz. I guess.

What happens here is that you haven't been following this thread because if the thread is this long is not precisely because of me. Rather due to the jinxers coming here to complain because I and others have called out their BS.

This thread is about a meta issue, it's on topic here unlike the other one.

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What happens here is that you haven't been following this thread because if the thread is this long is not precisely because of me. Rather due to the jinxers coming here to complain because I and others have called out their BS.

This thread is about a meta issue, it's on topic here unlike the other one.

Actually the thread is getting longer precisely because of you since you haven’t locked it. I already described you the situation.


And even then, I don’t see why you are so concerned. Have you reported the thread? Good. Then it is a decision for the mods now.

What’s the current purpose of this thread? You made your point. Everything has been said about it. You also reported OG’s thread. Why not lock yours? What’s your expectation from this thread? It will only get longer and it won’t solve a thing.

It seems the mods didn’t agree with you. Now what?

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December 12, 2024, 06:19:57 PM
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Actually the thread is getting longer precisely because of you since you haven’t locked it. I already described you the situation.

On the contrary the thread is getting longer because people like you who say you don't like it don't stop posting on it. If you think this thread doesn't make sense to continue I don't know what you are doing writing in it, it's contradictory, but the most curious thing is that there are people saying the same as you many pages ago and the thread continues.

What’s the current purpose of this thread? You made your point. Everything has been said about it.

It doesn't seem so because there are times when I go two days without looking at the thread update and when I look at it there have been more responses, a sign of interest in this thread. If this thread wasn't interesting it wouldn't have had replies a long time ago and would be on page 3 of meta or beyond.

You also reported OG’s thread.

This thread has also been reported.

Why not lock yours?

Why do you apply such double standards to the two threads? And why don't you ask OgNasty to lock his?

What’s your expectation from this thread? It will only get longer and it won’t solve a thing.

That's what you say. There have been threads on Meta for months calling for action that was not taken until many months later.

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What’s your expectation from this thread? It will only get longer and it won’t solve a thing.

That's what you say. There have been threads on Meta for months calling for action that was not taken until many months later.
So on the contrary, are you by anyway means insinuating that you are 100% sure OgNasty's thread about 100 Push Ups will be someday locked due to the consistency of this thread? Because inasmuch that thread is alleged to fall under Off-topic category of post on this forum, for me, I could say that that's one thread that deserves continuity on the speculation board for every Bitcoin enthusiast who intend to hold his Bitcoin investment for long term due to the health benefits that Push-Ups does to the human body.

Because just as Push Ups Increases Cardiovascular Health, by elevating a person's heart rate and supporting heart health, and likewise Boost Metabolic Rate by building muscle, which increases a person's resting metabolic rate and helping with weight management, as a long term Bitcoin investor, these are  essential criteria we need for longevity of life and Bitcoin investment, which is why I think I agree with OgNasty, as that thread is totally not off topic.



 
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On the contrary the thread is getting longer because people like you who say you don't like it don't stop posting on it. If you think this thread doesn't make sense to continue I don't know what you are doing writing in it, it's contradictory, but the most curious thing is that there are people saying the same as you many pages ago and the thread continues.

People who think a thread shouldn't continue any longer or shouldn't have started in the first place will share their opinions as long as the thread is open for posters. Unless you lock a thread, you can't say someone can't share their opinion in it and about it.

I won't speak for others, but in my case, I would say that there is a difference between disliking something and disagreeing with it. I have been posting in this thread, not because I dislike it but because I disagree with it, and I have also said that it should get locked at one point after the thread reached a few pages and it was becoming nothing but an endless discussion.



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December 12, 2024, 09:31:46 PM
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I'd never ask for the locking of even Og's thread. He of course has the freedom here to create his gimmick flexing thread under false pretenses, in the wrong board, and Don of course has the right to call it stupid and misplaced.

It appears the overall goal in the OP was to have it moved and for Og to stop misrepresenting satoshi, both of which still allow whoever else to continue using the push-up thread for whatever encouragement and health goals they apparently get out of it, and they could continue doing them, that's pretty clear to see.


Even though what I've seen here has been annoying, and in some cases, eye-opening behaviors, I really have too much on my plate to devote any additional time to this. edit: off-topic

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Because just as Push Ups Increases Cardiovascular Health, by elevating a person's heart rate and supporting heart health, and likewise Boost Metabolic Rate by building muscle, which increases a person's resting metabolic rate and helping with weight management, as a long term Bitcoin investor, these are  essential criteria we need for longevity of life and Bitcoin investment, which is why I think I agree with OgNasty, as that thread is totally not off topic.

If you were not a couch potato you would know that the benefit of doing only push ups on the cardiovascular system and metabolism is very limited and the relationship between doing push ups to say that it is healthy and then you can invest in bitcoin is as off topic as opening a thread about eating 100 rocket leaves a day and its effect on the price of bitcoin.

People who think a thread shouldn't continue any longer or shouldn't have started in the first place will share their opinions as long as the thread is open for posters. Unless you lock a thread, you can't say someone can't share their opinion in it and about it.

I won't speak for others, but in my case, I would say that there is a difference between disliking something and disagreeing with it. I have been posting in this thread, not because I dislike it but because I disagree with it, and I have also said that it should get locked at one point after the thread reached a few pages and it was becoming nothing but an endless discussion.

But you also apply a double standard here, like mindrust. First you seem to be annoyed by the thread but you don't stop participating in it. Stop replying and the thread will die on its own.

But then you say this thread has to be locked and you don't say anything about the other one that is titled:

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100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

So you're very upset that this is an endless discussion but you don't mind the endless discussion of the other. That's a textbook double standard.

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December 13, 2024, 09:35:29 PM
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But you also apply a double standard here, like mindrust. First you seem to be annoyed by the thread but you don't stop participating in it. Stop replying and the thread will die on its own.

When and in which of my responses in this thread did I seem annoyed? All my posts either demonstrated disagreement or suggestions. Regarding replies, I have not made a single post in this thread when the thread was inactive; I only post when I see you and others posting, and then I share my opinion. After all, it's a free forum that promotes freedom of speech.

But then you say this thread has to be locked and you don't say anything about the other one that is titled:

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100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I never said that the other thread should never get locked, especially now that the challenge has been completed. This thread was never about the thread getting locked by the creator but about it being moved by a moderator.
The current thread should get locked, and another thread with a new challenge can be created. And since it seems that the title of the thread is one of the biggest reasons why it's being called out, maybe the title should be tweaked a little and be like, "Bitcoin Price Speculation & 150 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin is $150k Challenge". Then, the thread will not be off-board since it will have both speculative discussions and a challenge.  Wink

So you're very upset that this is an endless discussion but you don't mind the endless discussion of the other. That's a textbook double standard.

I think I have already answered this above.  Smiley
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